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Submitted by Simon Black of Sovereign Man

The West Has Just Become A Giant Banana Republic

Wikileaks founder Julian Assange has made an admirable habit of enraging western governments over the last few years, particularly the United States.

Most notably, his release of classified diplomatic documents in 2010 proved ruthlessly embarrassing, shining a spotlight on the absurd, petty little world of international relations.

Ever since, the US government has done everything it can to stop him. Short of assassination. They shut down his website, but mirror sites instantly popped up. They sought legal action, but their efforts have been impeded by the bureaucratic deftness of his attorneys. They froze his bank accounts… but donations have poured in from all over the world.

Along the way, Uncle Sam co-opted a number of allied nations to set aside their principles for the sake of US interests–Switzerland rolled over immediately and shuttered Assange’s bank accounts.

Australia (his home country) has remained conspicuously silent on the matter, raising not a single word of protest in his defense. One high ranking Aussie politician even publicly suggested that Assange should be killed.

Sweden has happily played along, trumping up dubious allegations about Assange and issuing an international arrest warrant.

And now there’s the UK, where Assange has been based. The British government located and arrested him, yet after his legal team was able to secure bail and delay extradition, Assange sought refuge at the Ecuadoran embassy in London. He’s been living there for two months in violation of his bail.

Assange knows that, if extradited to Sweden, he’ll be shipped off to face the death penalty in the US… so the stakes are clearly high. He even petitioned Ecuador’s president Rafael Correa for political asylum, and just hours ago, Correa agreed.

Swarms of British police have now descended on the Ecuadoran embassy in London. This, on the heels of the British Foreign Ministry issuing a warning letter to Ecuador’s government threatening to “take actions in order to arrest Mr. Assange in the current premises of the [Ecuadoran] embassy.”

Such a move would be appalling, to say the least.

Embassies are hallowed sovereign ground, not to be trespassed. Ever. This is the most sacrosanct, fundamental, inviolable principle of international relations, explicitly codified in both the Vienna Convention on Diplomatic Relations (1961) and the Vienna Convention on Consular Relations (1963).

Article 27 of the latter, for example, states that “the receiving State [the UK in this case] shall, even in case of armed  conflict, respect and protect the consular premises, together with the property of the consular post and the consular archives.”

International law seems pretty obvious here. Yet British police stand ready to storm the embassy, arrest Assange, and tear down decades of diplomatic precedent.

In a way this is almost poetic. Assange is the man who exposed western diplomacy for the fraud that it is. That he would be sent to his death by an egregious violation of its most fundamental principle seems strangely appropriate.

Regardless, the whole affair is perhaps the foulest example that western governments will ignore their own laws, or selectively apply them, whenever they see fit.

Legal precedent means nothing. Rule of law means nothing. Free speech means nothing. Their own treaties mean nothing. It’s unbelievable. Anyone in the west who honestly thinks he’s still living in a free society is either a fool or completely out of touch.

If that seems too radical an idea, consider that ECUADOR is now the only nation which stands to defend freedom and human rights against an assault from the United States, the United Kingdom, and their spineless allies.

The west has just become a giant banana republic. Have you hit your breaking point yet? If not now… when?

 


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Thu, 08/16/2012 - 21:41 | Link to Comment reader2010
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Wait a minute. I thought Ecuador has long been co-managed by the State Dept and CIA.

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 22:05 | Link to Comment ghengis86
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And I thought it was impossible that Simon could get through an entire article without recommending a 1,000 acre ranch in Bolivia, storing 1,000 oz of gold in Hong Kong or inviting 1,000 douchers to Slovakia for expensive food in small portions.

Learn something new everyday I guess. Then again, broken clocks and what not...

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 22:09 | Link to Comment Dr. Engali
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Yeah I know. I actually read the whole thing before I realized it was him. He was trolling around during his last couple posts and people were beating him up pretty bad about the points you just made. It was blatantly obvious it was him by his responses. Maybe he took the commentary to heart..... Maybe.

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 22:36 | Link to Comment ghengis86
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He probably junked me, when I was actually, begrudgingly (and admittedly back handed) paying him a compliment. This was a good article; he should stick to those (sorry, couldn't help myself with another - I'm a passive-aggressive bitch like that. Bitchez)

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 23:22 | Link to Comment 12ToothAssassin
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Well this certainly cuts to the chase. Kudos.

Fri, 08/17/2012 - 00:16 | Link to Comment mcguire
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well, thank god not all of the ZHers are drunk on the assCIAnge coolaid.. wikileaks is such an obvious fraud, it makes me sick.  classic hegelian parlor tricks.. 

 

Fri, 08/17/2012 - 00:34 | Link to Comment SilverIsKing
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The Equadorian embassy needs to take a page from Eminem's 2000 MTV performance in order to get Assange out of the UK.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uoua2xc0FOc

Fri, 08/17/2012 - 03:49 | Link to Comment French Frog
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There's no way that the UK will storm the Ecuador embassy to get Assange: this has only been used once (rightly so) during the Libyan siege of the early 1980s and it would set such a stupid/dangerous precedent (you could not then blame Iran for storming the British embassy in Teheran after that).

We all know that if Assange gets to Sweden, he'll be shipped to the US soon after (regardless of the veracity behind the sex charges).

I doubt very much that Assange wants to spend the rest of his life in that building and my feeling is that he will get arrested as soon as he steps out of the Embassy (the ground between the Ecuador embassy and the nearest airport is not covered by diplomatic immunity/political asylum status).

So, can the Ecuador government get him out of the Embassy and onto a plane discretly? I have my doubt, especially in the near future when all eyes will be on that building 24/7, but maybe later on in the year once the focus and the media get bored by this story becoming a non-story. I would pick Xmas day or New Year's day when police presence will be minimal and they could put him on a private plane out of the UK.

Fri, 08/17/2012 - 08:38 | Link to Comment spanish inquisition
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Well, if he is looking for new citizenship, hire him as a diplomat!

Take a car back to Ecuador for maintainence.

Make a large diplomatic pouch and don't forget the breathing holes.

 

Fri, 08/17/2012 - 00:45 | Link to Comment Element
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Yeah, but USSSSSSA already said it's not looking to prosecute Assange.

And given they always tell the truth, what could this possibly be about?

 

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And for those who merely claim Assange is a stooge, look at his background, he has been a royal pain in the arse for Govts since he was a pimply teen.  The guy is a natural born dissenter, and this background and record shows very clearly that he will do anything and go to any lengths to expose the secrecy and hypocrisy within any Govt.  How people can endlessly come-up with completely contrary assumptions and assertions, that do not accord with or acknowledge those basic facts, is quite something. 

At the very least his past record of doing such things should be grounds for granting the guy a provisional 'benefit of the doubt'.  I think he deserves that much.

Fri, 08/17/2012 - 01:12 | Link to Comment White.Star.Line
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Wiki may be a counter-double-agent-triple espionage multi-spy-doublespeak-traitorous-source-of-misinformation...... Maybe.
Yes he might be on a CIA-funded highandmighty mission to expose corruption, or a sexual deviant no better than any of those being exposed.
But if Assange picked Ecuador, he is at least smarter than me, or any of his accusers.
I wouid rather sit next to Gods people and their smoldering volcanoes, than challenge man's inflexibilty to criticism.

Fri, 08/17/2012 - 02:51 | Link to Comment NidStyles
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It's the CIA, do you really think they couldn't fabricate some guy out of thin air? FFS this isn't the Obama Birth Certificate we are talking about here. 

Fri, 08/17/2012 - 03:45 | Link to Comment Element
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Dude, you have no evidence Assange is faking.  You are talking irrelevant speculations, and engaging in the worst form of character assignation of a guy who appears to have put it all on the line.  Please don't expect me to take that unadulterated baseless made-up horseshit seriously.

And combining immiscible and unrelated issues like you have above does not suggest a level of capacity to evaluate the facts with honesty.  All you are doing by this is smearing and character assassination.

Not buying it.  The onus is not on me, nor Assange, nor on Wikileaks, or one anyone else to prove he's a good guy.

The onus is totally on you, and people like you, to show Assange is a baddie - hard, material and substantiated testable evidence. 

You don't have it, and no one else does either. 

Which implicitly means you're a disingenuous commenter, and not interested in facing this. You are lying to yourself, and to others, that you know something, which you do not know.

Fri, 08/17/2012 - 08:07 | Link to Comment StychoKiller
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Do us a favor and take over the US Attorney General's job -- thanx!

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 22:09 | Link to Comment saturn
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The real question is, should banana republics be allowed nuclear weapons?

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 22:22 | Link to Comment James_Cole
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There was a time when the US was a free society? Sometime before 1492 obviously, and under a different name presumably, can anyone pinpoint this mythical time?

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 22:49 | Link to Comment BigJim
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My understanding is that the native American Peoples persons routinely practised outright slavery.

US Citizenism citizen's nature being eternal, and all that.

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 23:03 | Link to Comment Spastica Rex
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And not an Objectivist among 'em. Savages.

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 23:08 | Link to Comment Dr. Engali
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AnAnonymous? You have two identities ?

Fri, 08/17/2012 - 07:01 | Link to Comment AnAnonymous
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AnAnonymous? You have two identities ?
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For what purpose? Facts are not made stronger by the number of people admitting them.
There is no use faking a number of people reporting facts.

On the contrary, propaganda and fantasy grow stronger as the number of people spreading and sharing them increases.

For multiple accounts, one has to look at 'Americans', they are the ones to be interested in this kind of tricks.

Reporting on US citizenism does not need such artful engineering.

Fri, 08/17/2012 - 07:42 | Link to Comment TheFourthStooge-ing
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.

On the contrary, propaganda and fantasy grow stronger as the number of people spreading and sharing them increases.

Funny how you leave out that propaganda and fantasy grow stronger as the number of repetitions increases.

Oh, but of course, you're just "reporting". Very good, nice job...

Fri, 08/17/2012 - 07:56 | Link to Comment AnAnonymous
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Funny how you leave out that propaganda and fantasy grow stronger as the number of repetitions increases.
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Because it is useless. As it is already included.

Two people telling a propaganda bit is repetition.

The difference is that while one person could repeat twice the same propaganda bit, getting the same propaganda bit repeated from two different sources increases the efficiency of the propaganda bit.
In one case, the hearer receives twice the same message from the same source while in the other case, the hearer receives twice the same message from two different sources.

But hey, 'Americans' are compelled to look for
symetry as they wish their 'Americanism' to be the natural system for humanity.

Human beings behaving differently from them can not be. That is the reason why in 'Americanism', human beings who behave differently from 'Americans' are no longer human beings, they are sub humans or non humans.

Fri, 08/17/2012 - 03:09 | Link to Comment AnAnonymous
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Not all of them, actually.

What is interesting to follow is that considering the various indian tribes' relationship to slavery and how well they get integrated to the US society.

Unsurprisingly result by the way once 'Americanism' is understood.

And none of them tribes declared freedom an unalienable human right to keep practising slavery.

US citizenism at work.

Fri, 08/17/2012 - 03:25 | Link to Comment Adahy
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There are oviously various definitions and degrees of "slavery".

As far as my tribe goes, (I can not speak for others) it was far different than Europeans' slaves.  Also note that there is no mention of servitude in the older histories I've heard, only in histories from after the start of colonization.  Of course, I have not heard all of the history, and this is only from my tribe, others may have been different; but I believe that our "slaves"/workers were treated much, much different than European slaves.  Some of the histories certainly do draw quite a contrast between how a native person was treated as a "slave" of a tribe, and how they were treated after they were captured and enslaved by the Europeans.
Many times it was even because a person did not have the skills, or was too "slow" to take care of themselves properly.  In exchange for labor, they would be looked after, fed, and be given a place to sleep.  Even with captured combatants, the purpose was to assimilate them into your tribe, not beat them into submission.

Just wanted to toss in my 2c of what I know from my little corner as pre-colonial civilization is somewhat of a fascination of mine.

Fri, 08/17/2012 - 07:02 | Link to Comment AnAnonymous
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'American' slavery is the enslavement of sub humans and non humans.

Fri, 08/17/2012 - 07:45 | Link to Comment TheFourthStooge-ing
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AnAnonymous said:

'American' slavery is the enslavement of sub humans and non humans.

You've already made your contempt for negroes quite clear. But hey, I guess you feel the need to repeat it...

Fri, 08/17/2012 - 08:04 | Link to Comment AnAnonymous
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My contempt for negroes? Uh, no. I only reported about the inborn 'American' contempt for negroes.

 Projecting once again.

 On the contrary, one can learn a lot on 'Americanism' through negroes.

 And when it is common rhetorics from 'Americans' to question the utility of negroes to humanity, in my case, the answer is plain: negroes are very valuable as they 've helped to understand and exposed 'Americanism' so to speak.

 One should consider: without the negroes, 'Americans' could probably still go harping on their support to freedom, truth and justice. Thanks to the negroes, 'Americans' were exposed from day one of 'Americanism', that is 1776,July,4th. This does not bide well for negroes though as 'Americans' are duplicitous and usually, duplictious people do not like people who can expose their duplicity.

 The way it is.

The way US citizenism is.

Fri, 08/17/2012 - 09:02 | Link to Comment TheFourthStooge-ing
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AnAnonymous said:

My contempt for negroes? Uh, no. I only reported about the inborn 'American' contempt for negroes.

Nope. You said yourself that:

'American' slavery is the enslavement of sub humans and non humans.

So you excuse this slavery by referring to those slaves as subhuman and nonhuman? Hmmmm, seems I've seen that sort of eternal nature somewhere else. Oh, that's right, now I remember. The Chinese viewed their own slaves as "half-man, half-thing".

I know how hard it is for you to break out of your inborn eternal nature, but slaves in America were as fully human as you and me. So were (and so are, in the case of brickyard slaves) the slaves in China.

Projecting once again.

Yes, you certainly have a habit of doing so. It must help you to forget saying things like this:

Logics of lowest level. Even understood by negroes, so to tell how lowest level it is...

So now you'll deny having said such a thing. Then you'll resort to evasion, saying that this was taken out of context. That's why I made a link to your comment, so that anyone can click on it and see your true nature, in context, on full display.

A helpful suggestion: to save yourself time and unneccesary effort, you should just skip ahead to your usual last step of running away.

Fri, 08/17/2012 - 07:22 | Link to Comment mick_richfield
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What is your tribe?

Fri, 08/17/2012 - 08:55 | Link to Comment GeezerGeek
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You wrote "...with captured combatants, the purpose was to assimilate them into your tribe, not beat them into submission."

Apparently you're not a descendant of Aztecs. They did some pretty brutal stuff to captives according to what I've read.

I also liked the sentence where you said "In exchange for labor, they would be looked after, fed, and be given a place to sleep." That sounds like a description of how the elites envision the future vis-a-vis the sheeple. Or perhaps it could be reworded for modern times as  "In exchange for votes, they (the overlords/politicians) would provide food, medical care and a place to sleep."

Fri, 08/17/2012 - 00:43 | Link to Comment Nachdenken
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Stoned age.

Fri, 08/17/2012 - 00:45 | Link to Comment Nachdenken
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paradise

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 22:19 | Link to Comment ronaldawg
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Yay - let's rally around and protect the child molester!

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 22:24 | Link to Comment otto skorzeny
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who brought up Sandusky?

Fri, 08/17/2012 - 08:56 | Link to Comment GeezerGeek
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I thought the reference was to Polanski.

Fri, 08/17/2012 - 02:52 | Link to Comment NidStyles
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You aren't a child once you hit Puberty. 

Fri, 08/17/2012 - 01:18 | Link to Comment prains
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simon's been drinking the bananas again

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 22:52 | Link to Comment Buck Johnson
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And the UK is doing all of this because Sweden has a warrant on him for a condom breaking and them wanting to talk to him and prosecute if possible?  The UK is willing to storm another countries embassy over this, BS.  The US wants Assange and they are wanting their allies and such to bend the law to such a point that it redefines the meaning of the words and treaties.  This makes 1984 look to be right around the corner.  I would never think in the western world that they would assault an embassy to take something and now we are seeing it.  The US has redefined torture, redefined war and war crimes and they are redefining the rule of law and treaties in civilized countries (supposed to be civilized). 

The UK is saying their law provision done in 1987 makes it possible for them to disenfranchise or make non-embassy of a building and persons if they deem so.  Then how do you get around the international laws and treaties that you and the US and others signed in regard to embassies being that countries soil.  Yea you can come up with a law but so what once done it's done.  And then the UK is saying they won't allow SAFE PASSAGE (can you believe that) of Assange from the embassy to the airport and out of the country.  Even Russia wouldn't have had the balls to do this, Embassies are supposed to be the one place that all can count on as a safe place of refuge and a no go for that countries power to take or do whatever.

The people in the US and the govt. workers don't see what type of world that is being built on expediency and hate by our leaders.  When our people are in other lands that mean they aren't safe at all and could possibly be executed or imprisoned without even notifying the Embassy (per the laws of that country right).  We are going to be living in a more dangerous world after this, bet on it.  Every Ambassador should feel a little scared now, every soldier should feel a little wary now. 

We have torn down civiliztion to protect bankers and politicians, and it still won't save us.

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 23:12 | Link to Comment Anusocracy
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Perhaps this is the beginning of the end for governments.

More and more each day, they show the people that they can't be believed or trusted and that they are utter failures to anyone who is productive in life.

Fri, 08/17/2012 - 00:23 | Link to Comment Element
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The US has redefined torture, redefined war and war crimes and they are redefining the rule of law and treaties in civilized countries (supposed to be civilized).

 

You forgot to add the US re-definition of privacy rights (there is simply NONE) the public-interest (I'm not even going to go over that corpse), and fweedom, which is the West's most absurd party-gag of all. 

"Tax serfs need to STFU", which re-defines law and order as well.

Fri, 08/17/2012 - 03:13 | Link to Comment AnAnonymous
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The US has redefined torture, redefined war and war crimes and they are redefining the rule of law and treaties in civilized countries (supposed to be civilized).

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'Americans' are doing much more than that: they are constantly redefining humanity since 'Americans' hijacked humanity on 1776, July, 4th through the natural rights theory.

Any new definition brought by 'Americanism' has to be brought to the rest of humanity as it has to be the rule of Man as called by 'Americans'

And when the rest of humanity does not comply, they are either forced in 'American' freedom or degraded to subhuman or non human beings status.

This is how 'Americanism' works.

Fri, 08/17/2012 - 05:21 | Link to Comment Dugald
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WELCOME TO THE NEW PAX AMERICANA...............

Fri, 08/17/2012 - 09:05 | Link to Comment TheFourthStooge-ing
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.

WELCOME TO THE NEW POX AMERICANA...............

Fixed it for you. Just tryin' to help.

Fri, 08/17/2012 - 08:51 | Link to Comment Vince Clortho
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"... We have torn down civiliztion to protect bankers and politicians, and it still won't save us."

We?  Who is We?

I always cringe when I find these "everyone is to blame" items.

The Bankers and Politicians have torn down civilization and are making a mockery of the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, and the remnants of the American republic.  They have done so using subterfuge, swindling, fraud, deception and criminal acts ranging from manipulation to murder to achieve their ends.  

We, the people have been the victims of this assualt against human decency.

Don't contribute to the confusion and stay focused.


Fri, 08/17/2012 - 09:00 | Link to Comment GeezerGeek
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Aren't the voters in the US entitled to know Romney's position on this Assange thing? It clearly is of monumental importance, ranking up there with issues about dog carriers on top of cars.

Fri, 08/17/2012 - 07:25 | Link to Comment Voluntary Exchange
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AS the criminal syndicates called "governments" rate, Ecuador has just jumped up my list as more ethical (less criminal) than many. 

 

How things change. The US and UK  used to be less criminal than most, now they are among the worst. Those who love liberty can vote with their feet (at least for now). The call for the young might now be, "GO South (or East) young man!" 

 

Extremism in  defense of tyranny is great vice. Who wants to live with criminals? It is precisely the criminals who need to have their actions publicized far and wide. 

 

If you hold life sacred, then when they refuse to allow life, liberty, property, and honesty your only option instead of organizing to defend yourself, is to walk. Voting sure doesn't work.

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 21:46 | Link to Comment Neethgie
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The world is turning into brasseye

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 22:46 | Link to Comment Clever Name
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The world is turning into browneye.

 

Fixed.

Fri, 08/17/2012 - 09:00 | Link to Comment GeezerGeek
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It's diseased. Pinkeye.

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 21:46 | Link to Comment OldE_Ant
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Hey at least we still have LIBORTY!

 

End of Line

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 22:47 | Link to Comment Everyman
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Shooting dumb asses, criminals, bankers, and bureaucrats could turn into a full time job!

 

I see full employment!

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 21:47 | Link to Comment valkir
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Dunno,maybe i have to wear condom anytime i sleep with my wife.Maybe not.Later she may accuse me for wearing unconfortable safe sex tool.And i even dont know where is Ecuador consulate.

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 22:39 | Link to Comment Buck Johnson
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I know.

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 21:56 | Link to Comment Dr. Engali
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The whole thing about Assange is I'm not convinced he isn't psy ops. He released a few pieces of information that was harmful to TPTB then after that everything else was just hot air. I question his validity and wonder if he isn't useful to TPTB as a tool , a boogie man,for Internet control. After all we can't have these " terrorists" harming "national security". Look at how they built him up. Like he was an international man of mystery. A James Bond for the enemy. As far as the U. S. being a banana republic , it's unfortunate but true.

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 22:14 | Link to Comment UnpatrioticHoarder
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If he were just an excuse for Internet Control wouldn't there be some startling revelation that he was in league with Al Qaida all along? If he were under their direct control (MK Ultra-style) how could he continue to make fools out of Western governments, wouldn't he have been folded up and put away by now as an example to naughty activists everywhere? And why would RT give him a TV show?

The explanation for Assange's surprising success is that he has a very very tough skin having grown up in Australia, a country that deeply resents stand-outs, especially those who break the unwritten rules. Assange doesn't need psychological support from others. He is his own man. Maybe even a Nietzschean Overman - beset by the ressentiment of "the bungled and the botched".

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 22:25 | Link to Comment Manthong
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Short poppies (tall ones).

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 22:41 | Link to Comment Dr. Engali
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They had him on 60 minutes for an interview for cripes sakes. The ultimate old people's show. I can picture them now ( all voters who don't trust the Internet ) watching the show saying" we have to do something about this. He's dangerous". The next thing you know there are Internet control bills lined up in congress.

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 23:08 | Link to Comment Spastica Rex
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It all feels like theatre: EVERYTHING. I don't think it all is, but I don't even try to figure it out anymore. 

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 23:09 | Link to Comment Dr. Engali
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After September 11th then the crash of 08 I question EVERYTHING.

Fri, 08/17/2012 - 00:21 | Link to Comment mcguire
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Wikileaks is total psyops!  assange on 9/11: ""I'm constantly annoyed that people are distracted by false conspiracies such as 9/11, when all around we provide evidence of real conspiracies, for war or mass financial fraud."  

Fri, 08/17/2012 - 00:48 | Link to Comment DavidPierre
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9/11 Is the 21st century Litmus Test ...separates the patriots from the traitors.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVY-iQDO8pg

Which side are you on Boy?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iAIM02kv0g


Fri, 08/17/2012 - 06:44 | Link to Comment Ima anal sphincter
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It's been a while. Always good to see a DP post.

Percentage of dumb-ass's that still believe the "official" 911 story????? It's the same number who go for the "Red-Blue" thing. 99% of Facebookers.

It's actually quite disgusting to know that SO many are completely clueless.

Fri, 08/17/2012 - 03:02 | Link to Comment NidStyles
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Assange is a tool. I would never expect someone that know's shit about Physics or Metallurgy to have a clue on what is possible in reality. 

Fri, 08/17/2012 - 04:41 | Link to Comment Element
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I would never expect someone that know's shit about Physics or Metallurgy to have a clue on what is possible in reality.

 

What's possible ... in reality?

People with expertise in physics and metallurgy created the atomic bomb from rocks and soil ... and the modern world was made possible by their centuries of work, using the same materials, rocks and soil.

Real enough for you, fool?

I've come to the view that 'NidStyles' is displaying all the hallmarks of an ignorant, dumb, dishonest and disingenuous horse's-ass.

Fri, 08/17/2012 - 07:56 | Link to Comment kill switch
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know's shit about Physics or Metallurgy

 

Really....

Try these guys!!!

 

http://www.ae911truth.org/

Fri, 08/17/2012 - 12:40 | Link to Comment DaveyJones
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physics, metallurgy - how about NORAD, criminal investigations, what you do with evidence of the biggest terrorist attack in US history, who ran twin towers security, how many people heard explosions, NYFD records, what "pull it means" what "do the orders still stand" means, Norman Panetta, how does a small whole fit a big jet liner, what ariline crashes look like, how people who can't fly Cessnas can make jets do things the best piolts in the world can't, why 20 cameras can't release footage of an airplane going into the pentagon and on and on and on and on.....  

Fri, 08/17/2012 - 09:08 | Link to Comment GeezerGeek
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Not a definitive list, but:

Remember the Maine? February 1898.

Pearl Harbor? December 1941

Gulf of Tonkin? August 1964.

Whenever convenient, governments lie. Indivudual people too.

Fri, 08/17/2012 - 02:19 | Link to Comment palmereldritch
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  "If he were under their direct control (MK Ultra-style) how could he continue to make fools out of Western governments, wouldn't he have been folded up and put away by now as an example to naughty activists everywhere"

Did you mean Mendax?

From Wayne Madsen via

http://www.conspiracyplanet.com/channel.cfm?channelid=2&contentid=7840&p...

[emphasis mine]

In 1987, Assange, at the age of 16, began his hacking career in Australia. He and two colleagues established an underground hacking group called "International Subversives" Assange used the hacker handle of "Mendax," which is Latin for "untruthful." The late 1980s represented a time period when intelligence agencies and law enforcement were playing a catch-up game with hackers — young people who, in most cases, knew more than even the NSA about how to crack into computer systems.

The Enigmatic Assange

Some in the corporate media similarly praised Assange and Wikileaks for the release of the State Department cables but New York Times managing editor Bill Keller recently expressed regret over his paper's dealings with Assange.

Keller said that when relations between the Times and Assange grew frosty, three Times staffers experienced hacking into their email accounts.

Keller is obviously unaware of Assange's past work for the U.S. intelligence community and journalistic due diligence by him and his paper would have uncovered what WMR has discovered about Assange and his hacker colleagues before entering into a relationship with Wikileaks and its founder, described by Keller as dressed like a bag-lady and needing a bath.

About the only thing law enforcement and intelligence could do faced with such a new and technologically-advanced hacking threat was to cut deals with hackers who were arrested.

The choice for the Australian police was simple: either face prison and a huge fine or come work for law enforcement and intelligence in new computer security divisions and branches.

For Assange, the choice was also simple. Sometime between his arrest in 1991 and his being charged in 1994 with 31 criminal charges, six of which were dropped, Assange, according to our source, reported for duty to the Sandia National Laboratory in New Mexico, where under DISA unclassified cover, Assange worked on a system that would permit U.S. intelligence to hack into computer systems through a security hole in fax modems.

The program DISA developed for the intelligence community allowed intelligence operators to covertly switch from fax mode to data mode modems connected to computers, permitting computer files to be surreptitiously downloaded.

It was via modems that Assange, from Australia, had been able to penetrate Defense Department computers and it was via the fax modem security hole — the use of fax modems that were on-line and waiting to receive faxes — that certain U.S. intelligence agencies wanted to be able to accomplish the same task against their intelligence targets.

Upon completion of his task and his return to Australia for his trial, Assange was fined a mere A$2100 and released on bond with the following statement from the judge: "there is just no evidence that there was anything other than sort of intelligent inquisitiveness and the pleasure of being able to—what's the expression—surf –through these various computers."

The judge also mentioned Assange's tough childhood, one in which he was raised in a religious cult, the Santiniketan Park Association, also known as "The Family" and "The Great White Brotherhood" and led by yoga guru Anne-Hamilton Byrne.

The Family, in addition to meting out corporal punishment and sleep and food deprivation, subjected the children of cult members to psychotropic drugs, including psychiatric drugs Anatensol, Diazepam, Haloperidol, Largactil, Mogadon, Serepax, Stelazine, Tegretol or Tofranil. Children were also subjected to LSD. WMR has learned that the cult had links to mind control operations run jointly by the CIA and its partner, the Australian Security Intelligence Organization (ASIO). In 1978, the Victoria Police shut down the cult. Thus, Assange's apparent first, albeit involuntary, interaction with an intelligence agency came when he was a child being abused by the Santiniketan cult. The Family of Australia bears striking similarities to another child abuse cult in the United States linked to the CIA: "The Finders."

Tough skin in Australia indeed...

Fri, 08/17/2012 - 03:23 | Link to Comment NidStyles
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I find it amusing that the media always treats Comp Sci as if it were something magical, and that only a few extremely gifted individuals can be able to work with such systems. I guess someone forgot to tell them that Computers are just fancy adding machines. It's nothing but math, ecryption and security technology even more so, but any person that can understand math on the binary and hex level can do what Assange is proclaimed to have been a magical christmasland genius at. It's not like they are inventing this stuff from the ground up after all. 

 

Speaking of which, the NSA handles the Banking software used around the world. That software is built upon and OS that written in pure ASM. It's custom from the memory addresses up. So I fail to see how an outsider that has never worked with one of these highly custom machines, with their custom software whould have a clue on how it handles it's port access, or it's encryption. Packet Sniffing can only do so much, and by then you're likely to be alerting whoever is the tech on those systems to your precense. Intrusions can not be masked or hidden without destroying the entire Log, which would be obvious. The Log itself would have a write stamp on it as well, which leads you to being able to track the source the from the network servers by the time code on the write stamp. 

Computers are heavily orchestrated, and they log all entries as part of their normal operations. Without being handed the way to get into a system, or having Physical Acces to one of those machines, you are not going anywhere.

Fri, 08/17/2012 - 09:27 | Link to Comment GeezerGeek
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I've read that most 'hacking' is the result of insider access.

As for saying  "the media always treats Comp Sci as if it were something magical", I believe it was the author Arthur Clarke who said something stating that any sufficiently advanced technology will appear to be magic. The MSM are easily deceived, even by their own writings apparently, and are technically as clueless as the average cell phone user. 

For the benefit of non-programmers amongst us:

As for worldwide banking software being written in assembler (ASM), are you sure? Can you provide a reference URL for this statement? It would, in my opinion, be extremely shortsighted to do so. Assembler comes in many flavors, each different processor type using a totally separate version. IBM mainframes uses one. Burroughs used a different one. NCR used yet another. The Intel-based x86 (from 8088 up to the latest Ivy Bridge) uses its own, although it keeps expanding. Writing in assembler, which I've done many times, is not the sort of language one would use to write business software, in my experience, so I'd like to see a URL verifying the statement you made. Any software written in assembler is instantly non-portable, it being impossible to run or even compile on a different type of computer. (Yes, one could run it under control of an emulator, as Apple users can run Windows programs via emulation). Not to mention the fact that the lines of code needed to develop in assembler would dwarf the line count of a program written in C, C++, COBOL, or any other high-level language.

Fri, 08/17/2012 - 08:17 | Link to Comment Voluntary Exchange
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palmereldritch:

If he has worked for intelligence,  couldn't that make him all the more dangerous to governments if he is trying to reveal their dirt now? How much "truth" can he tell?

On the other hand, all this time no government has seen fit to kill him yet. But maybe they think there is too much heat to just kill him outright.  Hard to know one way or the other.

Fri, 08/17/2012 - 10:47 | Link to Comment palmereldritch
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It appears, knowingly or perhaps even unknowingly to himself, Assange may be just part of the programming in a narrative controlled down to the very letter by various crypto alphabetical orgs.

Under this scenario it would all be part of full spectrum dominance and the fight for creative control of the sheeple's perception of internet information and the reality it shapes from their barely subconscious awareness.  Assange would then seem to fit the mould of one of Lenin's useful idiots dressed up as a hapless hero fighting for truth and leading a charge...to where exactly?

Reminds me of this other fable

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pied_Piper_of_Hamelin

The difference is the final pages of Assange's script haven't been handed to him yet....

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 22:54 | Link to Comment john39
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agreed.  the real story of tyranny was yesterday when a california federal judge found that protecting government secrets trumped individuals constitutional rights.  totally outrageous, but msm ignores.  had to read about it on rt.

http://jurist.org/paperchase/2012/08/federal-judge-dismisses-mosque-surveillance-lawsuit-to-protect-state-secrets.php

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 22:52 | Link to Comment Dr. Engali
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I'm either I'm being junked by CIA who are pissed I'm on to them or by people who buy into the official story. Which in my view, is worse because it means the matrix still has them.

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 23:30 | Link to Comment knukles
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Wake up, Doc.
The matrix still has most people.  The crowd here on ZH does not represent any sense of "normalcy" surrounding you/me/us.

To wit; examine any number if sites diagnosing ZH's demographics., contrast and compare to others of same general nature and how many are comment monitored as in propagandized and manipulated?

This may feel real and normal, but it ain't by world standards.

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 23:56 | Link to Comment Seer
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TPTB will spin with anything...  Best is to remove your energies from Their game.  It's like that old saying - "It doesn't matter what they're saying as long as they are talking about YOU."  When we stop talking about THEM then they'll lose their power...

Fri, 08/17/2012 - 05:17 | Link to Comment old naughty
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...when we stop interacting with them in any way, they will have no power.

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 23:56 | Link to Comment FeralSerf
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"As far as the U. S. being a banana republic. . ."

Unfortunately the U.S. is no longer a republic.  It is an oligarchy.

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 22:02 | Link to Comment buzzsaw99
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Breaking point? WTF?

Like I give two shits about Assange? Like he gives two shits about me?

The maggots ride in a bentley, go home, drink blue label, then stare at fine art. I drive a caddy home, drink red label, then stare at dogs playing poker. I am a long damned way from any so-called "breaking point". Keep it real zh.

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 22:02 | Link to Comment American34
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So very true Buzz. I am no where near my breaking point yet. However, the persecution of the few is just as lethal as the persecution of the many when you are one of those first few. 

And there in lies the problem. We all know, at least any of us that are honest with ourselves, that these are just the first few to be persecuted.

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 22:10 | Link to Comment buzzsaw99
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I am seriously curious just what zh is suggesting I do? Should I vote for romney? Maybe I should go piss on the neighbor's lawn? Assange knew the risks he was taking. We all bitch here all day long. I hate the wars and all the other injustice that goes on but assange and that little bunghole army traitor aren't high on my list of things taht make me angry. I see pictures of children with their skin burned off and that bothers me but really there isn't much I can do because the real assholes are impossible to single out and it isn't my place to try to set things right anyway.

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 22:13 | Link to Comment Dr. Engali
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Why do you think that ZH is suggesting you do something just because a guest posts something? ZH is just the format. Some people post some good stuff, others not so good. That doesn't mean the Hedge advocates either way.

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 22:16 | Link to Comment buzzsaw99
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True dat guest post thingbut I want to hear what "breaking point" means. Does it mean write my congressman or does it mean something more sinister? We've had a lot of bad shit happening all over the place, should we all add to the problem by going berserk too?

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 23:05 | Link to Comment robobbob
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ZH has provided a format for stories on the inequalities of our times, and a forum for communication.

Many people have expressed a large range of opinions of what resistance looks like. There are those of the canned ham and bunker persuasion, while others advocate the storing of wealth in physical in lieu of bankers vaults. Losing it just means to stop passively grunting and accepting with apathy and making a conscious decision to do something....anything. The form of revolt resides in the individual. Can you take a few more deductions on your tax return? Pay cash a little more instead of credit cards? Pay down loans, or use local banks instead of TBTF? Directly invest with local businesses instead of playing in wall street fixed games? Help get a local incumbent voted out? When was the last, or only time, you went to a local board meeting and raised hell over some unfair ordinance? Making sure every MSM propaganda hit piece gets a good factual enima in the comments section? And of course the biggest thing you can do is to network and get others to question the status quo, and they too can start ignoring the system. And having a couple cases of canned hams always on hand isn't such a bad thing either.

Anything that you do that withdraws support from the system is fighting back. Even if its pointless and miniscule, its still fighting back, instead of just perpetually staying bent over and repeating to yourself that maybe next time it won't hurt as much as the last time. It may not make any difference to the outcome, but at least you can say they had to hold you down, instead of letting them get away with saying it was consensual.

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 23:12 | Link to Comment Dr. Engali
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+1

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 23:30 | Link to Comment American34
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You are the man! Great response. I am doing my best, i have a decent amount of food and precious metals and am putting up a wind turbine and solar panels this fall. My wife and I pay off our debts as quickly as possible and have 3 gardens. We simply enjoy being as "self sufficient" as possible and not contributing to a system we can no longer believe represents the America we used to believe in. Fight back whenever possible as strongly as possible and efficiently as possible.

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 23:32 | Link to Comment Anusocracy
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What I'm doing is:

1) Withdrawing support

2) Ridiculing and criticizing government

3) Working to get the concept of freedom to ten percent of the people at every chance I get.

Minority Rules: Scientists Discover Tipping Point for the Spread of Ideas

http://news.rpi.edu/update.do?artcenterkey=2902&setappvar=page%281%29

 

Fri, 08/17/2012 - 06:11 | Link to Comment GCT
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Amen robobbob.  Freedom of speech on a financial site or for that matter any site you comment on is one of the reasons I read this site daily.  What you choose to do with the information is up to you.  I learn from ZH and the commenters here daily.  Of course when I need some good laughs I read MDB and annon's post's as well.  I am thankful for this site actually.

Fri, 08/17/2012 - 10:07 | Link to Comment CR Bill
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one can leave, I am liquidating my last asset in the US presently

I will have a second passport next year, then I will have only one

 

a question: could the US "void" all US passports in an effort to force US citizens to return to the US ?

 

Bill

Fri, 08/17/2012 - 00:12 | Link to Comment slewie the pi-rat
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hey buzZ!

your point is well-made imo

Fri, 08/17/2012 - 00:48 | Link to Comment Nachdenken
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Dr E pragmatic.  Feeling all right ?

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 22:14 | Link to Comment American34
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That video at the African mine where all those workers got shot to death. Those are the guys with balls! Them and the Wall Street protestors. They did something about things. For all those who give your post a negative maybe they should ask themselves if they are doing anything besides whining on ZH. Is anyone here risking anything like those dead African miners!?!? I think NOT! There are breaking points but I fear there will not be enough supporters to over throw the current craphole of a system we have here in the USA until the Unemployment, Social Security, Welfare and Disability checks stop comming to say nothing of Food Stamps and all the other vote buying schemes we have hear. 

 

It is as was said long ago, "Democracy will only last so long as the politicians don't realize they can buy off the voters with their own money."

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 22:37 | Link to Comment CrockettAlmanac.com
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This was not a praise worthy event nor one which any rational person would care to emulate.

 

Prior to Thursday, 10 people - including two policemen - had died in nearly a week of fighting between rival worker factions at the mine, the latest platinum plant to be hit by an eight-month union turf war in the world's main producer of the precious metal.

The Marikana strikers have not made their demands explicit, although much of the bad blood stems from AMCU's challenge to the two-decade dominance of the National Union of Mineworkers, a close ally of Zuma's ruling African National Congress.

Before the police advance, AMCU president Joseph Mathunjwa, whose organsiation has been on a big recruitment push in South Africa's platinum mines, said there would be bloodshed if police moved in.

"We're going nowhere," he shouted through a loud-hailer, to cheers from the crowd. "If need be, we're prepared to die here."

 

http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Latest-News-Wires/2012/0816/Police-in-Sou...

 

Fri, 08/17/2012 - 00:09 | Link to Comment Seer
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"This was not a praise worthy event nor one which any rational person would care to emulate."

Yep... really, WTF?, dying for a union in order to work for a BIG Boss man? and for rocks...

The best thing I'd gotten out of my military stint was the saying "set the example."  Be an example for others to go by: I shunned the notion of "leader" when I was a kid (I have no real recollection on how this came to be), feeling that I'd prefer to be a "guider."

The System has things so twisted that it's impossible to take anything at face.  Besides, life is MUCH more complicated, much more than this twitter world can deal with...

Fri, 08/17/2012 - 08:26 | Link to Comment Voluntary Exchange
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buzzsaw99:

 

Do you pay taxes?  What do you think of those who choose not to pay taxes? 

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 22:07 | Link to Comment Ignatius
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Maybe a few years from now we'll all be singing campfire songs about Assange.

It will be tricky, though... working on rhyming "Assange" with "orange" -- literary breakthrough if we can achieve it.

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 22:43 | Link to Comment CrockettAlmanac.com
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The cannons of Mr. Assange,
Report with a paper barrage.
Some people said,
“Put a price on his head!”
But his freedom to print is carte blanche.

Fri, 08/17/2012 - 00:41 | Link to Comment slewie the pi-rat
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forJulianA

 

he had brass balls reporting to you
tho his secrets were less than poo
his psy-ops missed!
the soup was un-pissed
but he creamed the swiss fondue

Fri, 08/17/2012 - 03:52 | Link to Comment slewie the pi-rat
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junked!  L0L!!!

julianA?  it's a personal thing, i guess;  i don't watch TV so i just focused on the intel and there wasn't much there; for me

someone (he?) hacked and he carried the ball

1:> let's start w/ the embassy in london:  yes this is "outrageous" but simon and you others didn't seem to mind when the same NWO went after the libyan "embassy and wealth" in the same city in 2011 didya?  but in 2012 in another embassy w/ another situ:  NOW it's big fuking deal?  riiight!  how noble of you toy-boys for j.a. in 2012! 

and let's peek at what he "did" carry:  can someone tell us wtf he "proved" intel-wize?  that our embassies are foggy bottomless pits of secrecy and conniving "evil" bullshit and spying? 

rilly?  who coulda node?  i mean danRather beats on intel ...but not on attention!  and drama!  if the guy threw a punch what was it? and who got hit?

2:> and let's goto the obvious parallel:  the pentagonPapers which dEllsburg published after "stealing"; nixon's plumbers get caught breaking into his shrink's office in theWatergate to get the files for the psyops and nixon (and kissinger & rocky) go down politically so hard that rocky comes in as VP under gFord with thePardon

now, those where the days, BiCheZ!  L0L!!! 

now, this.  so, i get how j.a. a/effects people and maybe for people born after about 1975 this guy is a great hero too

but i''m not in that parade;  and now there is so much disinfo ya can't even have a conversation, as usual, here  (ok, i'm a repeat offender there :> sob <:  fightClub alibi <: )

but let's look at that analogz ok?

danEllberg: Tricky DickyCountry Joe McDonald :: j.a. : NWO

now i accept that but it isn't my "truth"

i think we are at something more like

danE : nixon :: ? : NWO  so there!  Hahaha!

3:>  my thesis is that the TPTB "fixed" nixonianDemocracy and now it is the NWO;  it is like this:  death star <:  is that some boilerplate or what?

but these last few "administrations" have "fixed" nixonianDemocracy and now they "can't lose--too much at stake for everyone".  NOBODY goes to jail!    ...and the checks are in the mail...  till the IOUs fail... 

but "what happens to him?  stay tooned!

btw: we await a verdict  from russia today [ :> free pussy riot | {R/S}]  ;  see? it's happening!  <:

btw2:  i'm in the casino a few mornings ago and these four chinese guys are watching TV;  older guys, not the hi-speed utes of today;  so i stop and watch them;  freaking glued!  so i check the TV up hanging from the ceiling there and its on the chinese channel and they are looking at a big public building.  enormous stone bldg.  and commentator(s)

so i look back at them and then at the TV and they notice that i notice what they're up to

i nod and smile;  yeah  yeah.  then i draw my index finger across my throat  in the universal "crocodile" death-slash and make big eyes, too

these old cinese guys fuking lost it!  they cracked up!  then in unison, they all made the same  motion, at once!  all four sitting in a little square.   i had my own msBo string quartet!  does not look good there.  stay tooned! (aug 20 verdict)

julian may get rescued and become a great figurehead for something;  everything seems designed for drama with this guy tho;  that was my first take on him:  that he was the basis for a rather large and focused adverti-Zing campaign here, wasn't he?  and media blitz?  hmmm....

and for what?  bullshit "intel"...  ?  spit onSuperman'sCape?  piss into the wind?  unmask the LR?  mess w/Jim?  why?  blow up the guy MSM + wWw with the hero archeype probably;  street theatre101

frankly, it reminded me of "alCapone'sSafe"...

...still does...

but with that "thumbs up/thumbs down" aspect if ya know what i mean...   jelly bean...  got bread? 

popcorn?  don't let the moles get into your stash of popcorn!  grains are the reflatorz of 2012! 

Fri, 08/17/2012 - 08:20 | Link to Comment dcb
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do you actually have the ability to write a coherant sentance. You may have something worth saying to people, but I can't understand it, not when I see such a writing style to I think there will be anything worth reading. I certainly am not going to spend the time to translate the jibberish. It if is an attempt to show how hip/ clever/ etc you are it fails big time

Fri, 08/17/2012 - 08:27 | Link to Comment StychoKiller
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Hmm, but is it entertaining ENOUGH?

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 22:06 | Link to Comment max2205
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Yea fuck him fuck everyone

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 22:21 | Link to Comment ronaldawg
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You forgot about Assange's serial sexual assault on little children....

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 22:27 | Link to Comment otto skorzeny
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i thought you guys at the CIA were a little more subversive.

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 22:54 | Link to Comment BigJim
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Obvious troll is obvious.

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 22:57 | Link to Comment ronaldawg
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C'mon - don't you think on a personal level that Assauge is a weasel?  creepy and unstable?  I really don't care about the wikileaks issue - the guy is ick!!!!

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 23:10 | Link to Comment Spastica Rex
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Your mom is ick.

Fri, 08/17/2012 - 08:27 | Link to Comment StychoKiller
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I heard he propositioned Merkel and Hillary for a threesome...

Fri, 08/17/2012 - 08:28 | Link to Comment monad
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Thats Assange, not Kissinger.

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 22:27 | Link to Comment Rakshas
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Blew label???? 

Admittedly I thought Assange deserved a collosal kick in the nads just for being such a smug shit but by comparison..........  how does one justify the continued existence of the western world under the control of such psycopathic behavior as we have seen for the past 2 decades?  Either take it back and hang the fuckers from the light poles or bend over and hope for lube next time around.  Breaking point, Fuck me how many breaking points does a society need?  

and seriously JW?? You've already given up.... regardless of label color ...... or you're trying to get the taste out of your mouth... 

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 22:31 | Link to Comment buzzsaw99
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so how many fukkers have you hanged tough guy?

Fri, 08/17/2012 - 00:51 | Link to Comment Nachdenken
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Cant get the knots right.

Fri, 08/17/2012 - 07:36 | Link to Comment Rakshas
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Euphamism sunshine.

But the question remains, what are We the people going to do as the pressure contintues to ratchet up?  Assange is just one more example as you pointed out in a very long list of things to be pissed off about.  it seems like every measure one can use to evaluate our condition as a viable society the western world as a whole is sinking deeper into the abyss and believe it or not it all comes down to one person - the fucker looking back at each of us in the mirror every goddamned morning.  What can I do what difference can I make for fook sake really?? is that it? is that all your freedom is worth?

Whatever you want to do is your personal choice but if you do nothing then you maybe should also consider reclusing yourself from contributing to the bitchfest here as well - you know to help reduce the endless noise........

And I hate to be one of those cut and paste assholes but: 


First they came for the communists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a communist.

Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a Jew.

Then they came for me,
and there was no one left to speak out for me.

Do nothing and all your problems will soon be resolved - probably not in a way that you were hoping for but they will be resolved .........

 

Up to you

 

 

 

 

 

 

{bombs dropped on wedding parties in OPC in the name of delivering freedom}  

Fri, 08/17/2012 - 07:41 | Link to Comment Rakshas
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oh and to answer your question; none, I took my Ag bat and ball and headed north of the border and purchased a case of lube for what will undoubtedly happen next.....

next stop south china sea

Fri, 08/17/2012 - 07:49 | Link to Comment ltsgt1
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What is wrong with rounding up the communists? If that happened, I'd speak out by asking them whether they have enough ropes.

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 21:50 | Link to Comment F-X
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To be fair, I can't immediately think of any banana republics that have threatened to break into an embassy on their soil.

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 22:11 | Link to Comment MaggieL
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Iran.

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 22:19 | Link to Comment F-X
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Huh? How do you define banana republic?

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 22:30 | Link to Comment otto skorzeny
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it couldn't be that the CIA overthrew a democratically eleted prez that was going to kick out a British oil company, nationalize Iranian oil production  and installed a brutal dictator like the Shah-would it?

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 22:32 | Link to Comment F-X
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No.

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 22:36 | Link to Comment F-X
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My apologies, Otto. I thought you were replying to me.

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 23:22 | Link to Comment DeadFred
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None-the-less Iran has bee an international pariah since that day. Even people who don't buy into the Israel/US vs Iran story (me) don't have any trust or sympathy for Iran because of the embassy attack. It-is-not-done. I don't think the UK will storm the embassy, it's just show. But if the do it puts the world onto a whole other plane. A massive violation of international law for what is essentially a health code violation is a tad over the top.

Fri, 08/17/2012 - 05:03 | Link to Comment mvsjcl
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Which is why one needs to ask, what's this all really about?

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 11:13 | Link to Comment DaveyJones
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post of the chain award

Fri, 08/17/2012 - 07:43 | Link to Comment ltsgt1
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The people there are always fighting among themselves. The CIA could not kick out Mosaddegh without the help from the Iranians who opposed him.

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 22:58 | Link to Comment ronaldawg
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Panama

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 23:58 | Link to Comment F-X
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Yes, good one, I forgot about US troops surrounding the Vatican embassy to get Noriega to come out, but like Iran, the US is not normally considered to be a banana republic.

Fri, 08/17/2012 - 02:39 | Link to Comment jez
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F-X: ". . . like Iran, the US is not normally considered to be a banana republic."

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banana_republic

A banana republic is a politically unstable country that economically depends upon the exports of a limited resource (fruits, minerals), and usually features a society composed of stratified social classes — a great, impoverished working class and a ruling plutocracy, composed of the élites of business, politics, and the military.

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Well, lemme think about that . . .

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 22:03 | Link to Comment DavidPierre
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 What?

Me worry?

Just a little bit of news in the last 24 hours. First, China has purchased 382 tonnes of Gold in the first 6 months of the year. This amounts to over 750 tonnes annualized and better than 25% of the worlds' global production. When you add in their own production of over 200 tonnes, they will have accumulated nearly as much as the WGC says are their official holdings. Do you think that they may have a tad more than the 1054 tonnes that we are told? Of course, if you were already asking yourself this question, the next logical question would be "why are they so hellbent on accumulating more"? Especially at these current prices that we are assured daily that represent bubble prices in the stratosphere. 

 

We also got the (good) news (for Jon Corzine) that NO ONE will be prosecuted for the commingling and THEFT of over $1 Billion in client funds at MF Global.

...Uh, is anyone surprised? Yep, under the rug with this one too. It was a "mistake" and as the CFTC has promised us, new regulations have been put in place to prevent this from ever happening again...until last month with PFG Best's downfall. The fraud is so "in your face rampant" that even with the admission and paper trail that client funds were outright STOLEN (and looks to have ended up in JP Morgan's pocket), NO ONE will even pay a penny in penalty or even 30 minutes time to be "booked".

No, it is now so bad that they don't even bother to arrest anyone even for "appearance" sake. Meanwhile, back at the grocery store, the guy who stole a loaf of bread worth $1 to feed his family, got caught and will do 5 years time and charged a $10,000 fine. Gee...with this as precedent, I wonder how what the CFTC will be saying about the Silver investigation...anything?

The last "little bit" of news is my favorite, the Social Security administration has just ordered 150,000,000 rounds of ammunition! This last order brings the total ordered by the government in the last 3 or 4 months to the rough round number of...wait for it...yes, that's right 1 BILLION rounds! I believe that Homeland Security was the first big purchase which I understand, we must have a secure homeland. But then the IRS ordered a few hundred million rounds, I don't really get this unless they plan to go on a collection campaign hunting down deadbeats. But Social Security? What's up with this?

Do they plan on "culling" a few "recipients"?

Have the benefit lines gotten so unruly that people need to be shot?

I don't know about you but I normally try to "connect the dots" when I see news.

How can these dots be connected? Maybe...China knows that their $1 Trillion ++ in Dollar reserves is in the process of going up in smoke because there is no longer even the pretense of the rule of law in the U.S.? Maybe...because there is not even an attempt at protecting the dispensable muppet population from the insider wolves, the government is readying for a "muppet revolt"? 1 Billion rounds of ammo?

Maybe... maybe my ass!

There is only one explanation for this. The powers that be absolutely know that they are losing control of the whole rig. This "rig" has been going on for years and been going on within our borders and extended to the four corners of the Earth. They are readying for the day that they can no longer hold the "rigs" and the muppets finally and collectively figure out that they've been had...but good!

Mentally though, you must go one step further than this. When the system seizes up and the banks go on holiday forcing everything else from raw product to transportation, from distribution to final product on the shelves to evaporate...these bullets will be used by who? Our soldiers? Maybe. IRS and Social Security agents? Maybe. But won't these people also have lost their paper balances? Don't they have families that like to eat from time to time? Ah...the last dot we are forgetting about. The UN treaty! Once this gets signed by executive order, it will be "legal" for foreign troops on our soil.

THAT's the last dot!

Go ahead, say I'm nuts. Say I'm being alarmist, crazy, over the top or anything else that you'd like. Back in 2007-2008 that we were headed for a sovereign default BEFORE it was "OK" to do so. Now, turn on any TV or radio station and you'll hear about the fiscal cliff and will hear the the words "bankrupt" and "default" on a regular basis. All you need to do is connect the dots, it's not a pretty picture by any means but it is pretty easy to do.

 

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Thu, 08/16/2012 - 22:05 | Link to Comment Dr. Engali
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You know what? I'm afraid you're entirely bonkers. But I'll tell you a secret... All the best people are.

~ Alice ~

No you're not nuts. Many of us are in the same page. I just hope when the time comes people are prepared.

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 22:09 | Link to Comment DavidPierre
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 Nothing is more fun than a night at a Movie.

 

 

Knowing that the current economic system is on a path to further destruction is a point your company has made many times to many people. Unfortunately as much time and effort as you have exerted only a small portion of the population has "awakened" to the truth.

It is my strong conviction that there is a better way than writing, interviews, and radio shows. Let me introduce you to a project that I have personally supported through both monetary donations and time. It is a film project called Silver Circle.

Silver Circle is an action packed film about the economic collapse in 2019. The Federal Reserve has wreaked inflationary havoc over the US and shows no sign of stopping. An underground rebel movement begins to surface, and they fight back in the most effective way they know: circulating their "illegal" silver rounds into the community. Together the Rebels will fight to bring down the Federal Reserve before it’s too late.

The movie is fun and targeted at young people that are hungry for the truth and this movie "nails it"!! It also goes far to educate these young adults about silver ownership and education, possibly opening up new demand for precious metals.

After three years, the filmmakers have finished Silver Circle, having put over $1.5 million of their own money into the project, and it’s ready to go out to theatres. But, they are going to need help from a people like us to get this out to a proper theatre release. In order to roll this out to their planned 15-25 US cities, they are working to raise $500,000; otherwise the film will get a much smaller theatre release and a much smaller social impact.

I’ve made a donation towards this cause, and I would like to ask if you can also make a contribution to bring this information far and wide. I have found that the filmmakers are very flexible to promote your own company in connection with your help, depending on your needs.

In addition to marketing exposure, Silver Circle can supply you with movie credits, invites to screenings that you sponsor, custom-minted silver rounds from the movie, and DVDs of the final cut.

Lastly, it is my thinking that the monetary problem is the most important one we face, but helping others to understand this is perhaps just as important. Certainly, it will take more than an endorsement from me to make a contribution. Consider this an introduction to possibly the most important animated film ever produced about today's economic system. It is highly suggested you contact the director of the film, Pasha Roberts: Pasha@Lineplot.com and find out how you can help yourself and others with the power of the big screen.

Sincerely,
David Morgan
Founder www.Silver-Investor.com

P.S. -The Silver Round that Dr. Ron Paul showed to Ben Bernanke was a "Silver Circle" given to him by Pasha Roberts.

 

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 23:04 | Link to Comment disabledvet
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how does it compare to this version from the 70's?http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4MFxcFofkY

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 23:26 | Link to Comment El Tuco
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Silver Circle is an action packed film about the economic collapse in 2019.

 


Human cycles: history as science

http://www.kurzweilai.net/human-cycles-history-as-science

 

Interesting. It has started according to the article with 2020 being the year of reckoning.....

 

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 22:11 | Link to Comment hannah
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if we allow mexicans into our military...dont we already have foreigners on our soil in a uniform...? do you think that the 'police' in south africa that just mowed those striking miners down are thinking about how they might now be alive when the wave of populace takes them out back and chops them to litel pieces...?

america wont rebel til the banking system freezes and the checks stop....then it will be toal chaos.

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 22:19 | Link to Comment El
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You forgot the National Weather Service. They ordered 46,000 rounds of ammo, although the Washington Times later reported it was a "clerical error." Right.

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 23:25 | Link to Comment Mentaliusanything
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Hey someone mention a War on Cimate Change and they reacted like Texans ;))

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 22:41 | Link to Comment oldman
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Davi Pierre,

Agreed, sir.

My question is, to whom would you hand out 174,000 rounds of .357 ammo(was it really 150,000,000 rounds)? I don't know anything about this, but it seems pretty obvious that this is not for 'self-defense' by any stretch of the imagination.

How about those 'free-forces' we back in the ME---maybe they will speak english here and defend the government of this grand republic

All of this conversation is making me happy that I live i a country where only three families want me dead and I know who they are; also, here I have friends who protect me and offer me sanctuary. The same is not true in the us where if I was acussed of a crime by some lackey of the status quo, my friends would just cluck: "Well, I tried to tell him", without ever daring to speak to me again.

This shit gets to be personal when one outlives his times----hope it changes but probability is against change---trolls have taken over not 'sheeple'         thanks for a good post   om

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 22:59 | Link to Comment DavidPierre
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I live in a country where only three ex-wives want me dead... but I know who they are. 

Here I have the big mountains with backroads and fresh water lakes, to protect and offer sanctuary: a good place to die.

DP

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Thu, 08/16/2012 - 23:41 | Link to Comment FeralSerf
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Yes it is!   I have a number of kinfolk buried in Silver Creek.

Fri, 08/17/2012 - 04:27 | Link to Comment falak pema
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you will be a true muslim the day your fourth wife wants you dead. Enjoy the ride into the red sunset! 

Not that I would wish anyone to be a believer in Abrahamic straight jacket coding. But the temptation, the carrot, is the four wives meme! 

I haven't managed to piss off my first one yet! 

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 23:00 | Link to Comment ronaldawg
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Most of the government purchase of ammo is going to be stolen.

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 23:31 | Link to Comment robobbob
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The marxist dupes have always been about "equal distribution", and there is an army out there on the streets of America ready to take up that clause.

All societies have an undercurrent of the disenfranchised, disaffected, the jealous, the I coulda, the psychopathics just waiting to be given permission, all ready to take up arms against whatever grievance, real or imagined. . Add in promises of food to the starving, and there will be no shortage of trigger pullers.

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 23:44 | Link to Comment Anusocracy
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Most of the psychopaths aren't undercurrents, they are mainstreaming in government.

Fri, 08/17/2012 - 00:04 | Link to Comment rambo1028
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If you are nuts...then so am I and so are a lot of the people who hang around here.

Since I read about the SSA purchasing that many rounds, I have been a wreck because I can only think of a few purposes and no matter how many times I try to convince myself that I must have somehow connected the dots incorrectly.... I keep winding up seeing the same picture you do.

I am having trouble eating and sleeping... I feel almost paralyzed because I can't figure out what my next move should be. I am working poor...single mother of 2... my family has been financially devastated in the last 5 years but I think we are a stronger altho leaner unit because of that. I dream of stacking some bars but it is a pipe dream. Hell.... I can't even manage to buy a simple water purification device. :(

All that being said, although I am cautious and keeping my family in mind, I will not go quietly. I am at the breaking point.... just trying to figure out the next move. I almost feel like I am waiting for something....what that is, I am not sure. Does anyone else feel this way?

Fri, 08/17/2012 - 00:18 | Link to Comment Seer
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Naw, you're fine!  And that's how I see it!  (OK, we BOTH could be nuts...)

TBTJ - To Big To Jail (Corzine's new hedge fund name found here [and is he in this video?]: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKzcpr8OL9w) [OK, sorry for causing anyone any pain]

Fri, 08/17/2012 - 00:50 | Link to Comment Nikao7
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Briliant comment DP

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 21:57 | Link to Comment nick howdy
Fri, 08/17/2012 - 00:44 | Link to Comment Satan
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So every American can have a bullet with their name on it...

PS. Nice article Mr Black.

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 22:02 | Link to Comment luna_man
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I for one, would feel it an honor, to help Ecuador on behalf of Mr. Assange!...Where do I send my money?

 

Anyone, willing and able to air the CRIMINALS, dirty laundry gets my vote!!

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