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Guest Post: What The African Jungle Taught Me About Economic Collapse

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Submitted by Simon Black of Sovereign Man

Lessons From The Wild

For the last week or so, I’ve had the good fortune to be out in the jungles and savannah brush of southern Africa. If you look up “the middle of nowhere” in Google maps, you’ll probably find where I’ve been. In fact, when I took a small plane from Botswana’s Okavango Delta yesterday, we flew for 124 minutes before I saw so much as a paved road.

Here in the birthplace of life itself, you can learn a great deal about humankind by watching animals in the wild. Nature is full of lessons about from whence we came, and to where we are going.

This trip has provided unbelievable opportunity for me to reinforce many of these lessons, and I’d like to share a few with you.

First, and most importantly, is the indomitable rise of humankind. It goes without saying that we are the most advanced, adaptable species on the planet. Humans stood up millions of years ago to defy harsh elements and even harsher predators.

Our prehistoric ancestors learned to talk. To write.  To heal. To cultivate. To build vast civilizations. Devoid of any natural defense mechanisms, offensive capabilities, or significant size, strength or speed, human beings conquered the world against all odds on sheer ingenuity.

Fast forward to modern day. We’ve managed to get ourselves into dangerous straits. The fortunes of nearly every man, woman, and child on the planet are inextricably tied to a bogus financial system that is crumbling before our very eyes.

Governments are reacting with policy tools and spending programs that only exacerbate the pain, putting billions of people’s livelihoods at risk. Add to that resource shortages, overpopulation, and waves of political instability, and I’d say the next several years will be quite difficult for our species.

Entire nations will go bankrupt. Others will simply cease to exist. Others will go to war. Others will descend into criminality and social chaos driven by lack of economic opportunity.  And still others will regress into the worst kind of authoritarian regimes.

As difficult as the economic end game may seem, though, humanity has faced overwhelming odds before, and I have no doubt in our ability to adapt and overcome. This is more of a transition period… a major turning point in human history that will lead to a renewed system and brighter days ahead.

In the 14th century when the Black Death was vanquishing populations by the million across Europe, few people probably saw the Renaissance coming… but it happened.  Humanity suffered a major blow, started again, and ultimately flourished.

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This is another important lesson from nature: you’re either one of those who adapts, or you’re one of those who will perish. It’s that easy. Nature doesn’t play favorites, it simply separates those who are unprepared from the rest of the ecosystem.

The face of human civilization is transforming, and nobody knows what’s going to happen in the coming years with any certainty. All we can say for sure is that it’s not going to look anything like it does today.

Personally, I want to be prepared for anything, and that’s why I’m investing my time, money, and energy into our resilient community project in central Chile.

The idea behind the community is that it generates its own food, water, and energy, with enough capacity to supply the strong, thriving network of like-minded folks who live there… and then some.

This isn’t some survival bunker where we go off into the wilderness and bid adieu to the rest of the world. No, this is a community that’s specifically designed to meet the most basic needs of its residents. As such, no matter what happens, we’ll be able to deal with the world from a position of strength.

That’s how I’m preparing. What about you? I’d love to hear your thoughts about what you think is coming down the road, and what you’re doing about it.


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Mon, 09/26/2011 - 13:37 | 1711920 Oh regional Indian
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I'm simplyfying.

It's the easiest way. The effortless path... ;-)

Where you are is where you are, till you aren't.


Practice of Detachment

Mon, 09/26/2011 - 13:40 | 1711930 nope-1004
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I've seen pictures of African Jackals, but never dressed like an airline stewardess.

 Pointed Nose Jackal


Mon, 09/26/2011 - 14:14 | 1712110 hooligan2009
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you have obviously never flown Air France

Mon, 09/26/2011 - 14:24 | 1712170 Fukushima Sam
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Another winning post from Simon "I will sell you your neighbor's lawn" Black.

Mon, 09/26/2011 - 16:13 | 1712703 X.inf.capt
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o.k. simon, ill bite.

even after all ive learned on the hedge, how things really SHTF plan hasnt changed a bit.

when this goes down, im going to stay right where im at. in the city, im going to bake bread and try to help my community....

yep, been practicing with the dutch ovens and the hand mill...

and i dont care what someone used to do before the collapse, be it ZH'er, troll, goverment agent, rebel, loyalist,banker, blogger, or anything else. i will help all i can, and thier families.

what i wont do is fight against my fellow americans, there will be enough of that going on without my help.....

Mon, 09/26/2011 - 16:11 | 1712714 falak pema
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there was only one true african queen, Miriam Makeba, and one true African king, Mohammed Ali. The rest is white man's BS. White hunter, black heart.

Mon, 09/26/2011 - 14:12 | 1712084 trav7777
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add evolution to another thing Black doesn't understand.

when the ingenious stop conquering, they are outbred by the cretins.  Not all of "our" ancestors built any vast civilizations.  Not all had writing or any of the rest of this shit.

Mon, 09/26/2011 - 14:21 | 1712154 JoeSexPack
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Careful Trav,


Most sheeple aren't ready for any un-PC truths.


Their conditioning has been thorough.

Mon, 09/26/2011 - 15:12 | 1712394 Dr. Acula
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Yes, it's true some peoples reached greater levels of civilization than other peoples. For example, Eskimos did not build massive temple-cities made of ice blocks AFAIK. And while Egyptians created massive pyramids, the Anglo-Saxons were running around the forest naked painting blue shit on their faces.

But where's the shocking, unutterable, un-PC truth I'm not ready for? I'm still waiting...


Mon, 09/26/2011 - 15:41 | 1712548 mjk0259
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What good is a pyramid? It doesn't improve the average person's life and they might end up as a slave working on it or the bigger one the next ruler will want.

Mon, 09/26/2011 - 16:02 | 1712662 trav7777
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and subsaharn africa didn't even have writing unless prehistoric is meant to mean like the 13th century when whitey brought it.

As for this blue paint naked shit...not even remotely true.  The un-PC truth is that all groups do not have the same distribution and mean in IQ

Mon, 09/26/2011 - 16:39 | 1712801 Dr. Acula
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>The un-PC truth is that all groups do not have the same distribution and mean in IQ

Why is IQ important?

The Jersey Shore cast is not known for having high IQs, but, based on their incomes, the social value imputed to them is quite high.

Also, if IQ is so important, why does it matter if "cretins" continue breeding? No matter how numerous the "cretins" are, the arithmetic mean of IQ's will remain 100, by definition.


Mon, 09/26/2011 - 19:01 | 1713193 mjk0259
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That only works when they exist in a society where people have a high enough IQ to innovate and create wealth and also are willing to obey some kind of rules like not killing/robbing each other very often.  The cast of the Zimbabwe version of Jersey Shore is probably just as smart as the US version but they don't make much if they can even operate a TV station anymore.

Tue, 09/27/2011 - 03:39 | 1713979 AnAnonymous
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That only works when they exist in a society where people have a high enough IQ to innovate and create wealth and also are willing to obey some kind of rules like not killing/robbing each other very often.


Waoooo, such cheap propaganda. High IQ people are more willing to obey some kind of rules like not killing/robbing each other? In the midst of a crisis like current ones? But bankers are intelligent people. War strategists are intelligent people etc... So cheap propaganda.

One UnPC remark? The current crisis is the result of intelligent people who have innovated and 'created' wealth.

Actually, the world was put on the current path by intelligent people.

In a kind of irony, intelligent people have outsmarted themselves as they have now facing self made problems too complex for them to solve. As a result, one can see the kind of propaganda they are to produce to cover themselves. It does not hold because the situation is too big for their intelligence to cover.

And contrary to the absurd comment that would state the intelligent people have stopped conquering and are now outbred by cretins, it is the very reverse: intelligent people have outbred cretins, there are not even cretins who would not know how to waste resources in ponzi schemes, way too much intelligent people who know how to waste resources in ponzi schemes.

That totally flawed conclusion is not surprising though: it is a US world order and self indiction and taking your responsibility is out of the question.

Always the fault of the others. But the issue is clear: one part of the world has grown out of extorting the weak and farming the poor. The problem is that the poor and the weak are no longer enough to entitle the extorter and the farmer enough to his own taste.

What has to happen is a reduction of the number of extorters, a reduction in the number of intelligent people.

Too many US citizens, not enough chiefs.

Mon, 09/26/2011 - 20:04 | 1713368 hyperbole2000
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Let's drop you off in the Serengeti in only your skivies and see how smart you are. Better yet let's give you a map to food and water and see how high your memorized star chart navigating IQ is.

Mon, 09/26/2011 - 20:54 | 1713506 knowless
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hyperbole for the win.


no matter how much i hate the diversity re-education bullshit.

Mon, 09/26/2011 - 16:42 | 1712830 JW n FL
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the Anglo-Saxons were running around the forest naked painting blue shit on their faces

In Europe are where you can find the Largest and Oldest pyramids.

maybe you should spend less time writting? and telling people things and more time learning?

Mexicans mow my lawn around my black lawn jockey all the while towel heads fill my car with petroleum and dont you fucking forget it.

Mon, 09/26/2011 - 16:49 | 1712881 Dr. Acula
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Try again.

"Scientific investigations of the site show that the so-called pyramids are natural formations and that there are no signs of human building involved.[2][3][4] Additionally, scientists have criticised the Bosnian authorities for supporting the pyramid claim saying, "This scheme is a cruel hoax on an unsuspecting public and has no place in the world of genuine science.""


Mon, 09/26/2011 - 19:46 | 1713311 Dr. Acula
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LOL. Why down-vote facts?


Mon, 09/26/2011 - 16:49 | 1712883 Hive Raid
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The average IQ of Africans is 70. Africans in America are at 85 due to mixing with Europeans. Mexicans are at 90.

Libs far smarter than yourself have already done all possible mental gymnastics to deny these facts, to no avail. Forget it. Relax, close your eyes, and try to have a moment of clarity.

But you're right that most of ours are not as smart as we would hope.

Mon, 09/26/2011 - 17:26 | 1712930 Dr. Acula
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>The average IQ of Africans is 70. Africans in America are at 85 due to mixing with Europeans. Mexicans are at 90.

Fine, but who cares? I've heard all this data before, yet I continue to profitably do business with and befriend different kinds of people. IIRC the Jews and Native Americans have high IQ on average. If I'm not part of those groups, should I commit suicide? Also, is there an IQ difference between a well-fed African and one who went malnourished?

My theory on what's happening is that you hate anyone who is different from you, but you are afraid to come right out and say it because you know there's no logical basis, so you look for scientific-sounding evidence to help justify your feelings.

I believe the Danish are the tallest people in the world. If I want to assemble the world's best basketball team, then choosing from only Danes is not rational. The best course is to find people who excel at basketball.

Mon, 09/26/2011 - 19:03 | 1713198 mjk0259
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If you want to assemble a world champion chess team, who are you going to pick? How about if you need to organize an effort to build a rocket ship to escape Earth before a comet hits it?

Mon, 09/26/2011 - 19:10 | 1713216 mjk0259
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Have you ever been to America? People from every Asian country and Indian sect are in prominent well paid positions everywhere. Not by coincidence, they have high IQ. Why didn't your intelligent, oppressed associates start those companies and/or get those jobs? They were right here and already spoke the language.

Mon, 09/26/2011 - 19:37 | 1713245 Dr. Acula
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>People from every Asian country and Indian sect are in prominent well paid positions everywhere. Not by coincidence, they have high IQ.

That sounds plausible. There are billions of Asian people in the world. It's not surprising that some of the smarter and wealthier ones would choose to migrate here.

>Why didn't your intelligent, oppressed associates start those companies and/or get those jobs?

I'm not sure who you're talking about exactly. But maybe they didn't want the jobs. Maybe they didn't have the capital required to start a business.

Anyway, is something wrong with working at McDonalds and having a low IQ? I probably do business with that kind of person all the time, and am thankful for them.

Mon, 09/26/2011 - 19:55 | 1713340 mjk0259
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I see and Cambodian refugees or Hmoung tribesman that never saw electricity or cars before and don't speak English  are somehow able to accumulate capital and get their kids through school in second language. One way they do it is by each putting in $100 in a pool and one person starts a business every x months. You can start one on ebay for less than $100. I made a couple hundred thousand on that type of business starting with investment of less than $100. Thousands of people are doing that. But then I have high IQ.


Nothing wrong with working at McDonalds. I expect some of my own kids to end up working there or similar as our economy collapses. However, if you live in a society where almost everyone has a IQ so low that they couldn't do much more complicated than that, you won't even have a McDonalds. Maybe not electricity or clean water either, at least on a regular basis.

Maybe they didn't want the jobs because they were lazy. The Indians that run most of the quick checks near me usually have the whole family working there every day and it's not that much more profitable then a life on welfare for the small ones.

However, I do see some advantage in reducing the number of very high IQ people engaged in finance. Apparently, they can figure out so many ways to steal and dump it on the taxpayer that they offset the efforts of the other high IQ people inventing actual products and technologies.

Mon, 09/26/2011 - 21:23 | 1713570 Hive Raid
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It matters for many reasons.

Allowing low quality genotypes to overrun, overbreed, and eliminate higher quality genotypes is a dysgenic outcome. Humanity does not benefit by regressing to a more primitive form.

Successful nations are destroyed when they are overrun by low IQ third worlders; the host nations become the third world. The previous link to "IQ and the wealth of nations" is relevant. South Africa and Rhodesia/Zimbabwe were overrun, now look at them. Anyone who would oppose the destruction of their home should thus oppose mass invasion.

The planet's resources are limited. A favorite of you ADL/SPLC/Jew types is to deny that fact, because if resources are unlimited then there's nothing to fight over. Naturally a lie. Genetic groups compete for limited resources. Across all species, and certainly between human ethnic groups, competition always has been and always will be the natural order of things. A rational person benefits by protecting their own interests in light of that competition.  "no logical basis for boo woo woo..."  You anti-whites hate the truth--there's your hate.

On a personal note, here's a documentary on the Jew orchestration of the 9/11 attacks:

Tue, 09/27/2011 - 03:26 | 1713928 Dr. Acula
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>Allowing low quality genotypes to overrun, overbreed, and eliminate higher quality genotypes is a dysgenic outcome.

So low IQ is bad, because it's dysgenic. That sounds circular.

>Humanity does not benefit by regressing to a more primitive form.

What does it mean for humanity to "benefit"? How do you provide an answer that is objective and not merely subjective or inter-subjective? Does murdering people help humanity "benefit"?

>Successful nations are destroyed

What does it mean for a nation to be successful? Also, is it important for a nation to be successful? There are some who want their State to secede from USA; would you be opposed to that since you want the nation to be successful? Would the most successful nation be one that gobbles up adjacent ones? There is "high IQ" country that tried that a while ago - it most likely resulted in a lowering of their average IQ, according to your theories.

>South Africa and Rhodesia/Zimbabwe were overrun, now look at them.

Those don't seem to be examples of nations being destroyed. They seem to still exist.

>you ADL/SPLC/Jew types

LOL. If I were a "Jew type", then wouldn't debating me be futile? Because obviously the superior IQ would be mine, not yours.

>if resources are unlimited then there's nothing to fight over.

Fighting is illogical even when there aren't enough resources. Argumentation ethics shows this. One with your high IQ should be able to grok this.

>competition always has been and always will be the natural order of things.

That is not how the Ricardian law of comparative advantage works. I think if you learn a bit of Austrian Economics you will learn to appreciate other people more. Reading Human Action by Ludwig von Mises is a good start.

Mon, 09/26/2011 - 15:06 | 1712378 Dr. Acula
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>when the ingenious stop conquering, they are outbred by the cretins

LOL. I'll play along.

So why don't the "ingenious" just breed more?

Maybe they aren't as smart as you think?


Mon, 09/26/2011 - 16:03 | 1712664 trav7777
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unfettered breeding invariably leads to catastrophe.  your move

Mon, 09/26/2011 - 17:20 | 1712864 Dr. Acula
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I'm not sure what catastrophe you are referring to.

North America is full of unused land and resources. Why are the "ingenious" not capable of breeding and filling it?

Also, are there groups that are more "ingenious" than yours? If so, then should you stop breeding?

At which IQ theshold should one voluntarily choose to stop breeding? 150? 200? Do you pass the threshold, or do you not? If you have high IQ but genetic diseases, should you breed?

Poodles are the smartest dogs. Is it wrong to breed any other kind of dog?

Mon, 09/26/2011 - 19:07 | 1713212 mjk0259
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What unused land and resources do you refer to? The state I live in runs low on water most summers and most others do as well. All the major roads are 5 miles an hour in rush hour and since housing/industry runs to the edge of them, it's prohibitively expensive to expand them. We produce less then half the oil we need and import most other minerals except coal and iron.  Food prices have been rising for some time. Do you suggest paving over the remaining farms?

Mon, 09/26/2011 - 19:48 | 1713307 Dr. Acula
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>All the major roads are 5 miles an hour in rush hour

That sounds like Soviet-style public road systems. Not a lack of resources.

Anyone who has driven for a few hours in USA knows there is a ton of unused land. Need even more land? Go to Canda and emborder some unused land there. It has only 10% of the population density that USA does. The problem with taking unused land there is that an organized gang of Canadian criminals stands in your way. But still, there are plenty of unused factors of production waiting to be transformed into goods.

Mon, 09/26/2011 - 20:10 | 1713382 mjk0259
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Most of Canada is permafrost or Artic Tundra which is unliveable.

Soviet style public road systems ? What the hell is that?  Most of the roads in Russia are just two lanes with huge potholes and usually covered with snow. It's very difficult to maintain a road when you build it on ground that melts which is why northern canada is not a good place to live. What resources are we supposed to use to make the roads not be a traffic jam - knock down all the apartments, oil refineries, mountains on the side of them to make them wider? What country has a more advanced highway system than the US? Maybe China soon but not now.


Where is this unused land? The desert? Those cities are already short of water. The midwest - that's farmland.

Rocky Mountain forests - that's where we get wood and they are heavily used for hunting and recreation.

Only 19% of US is arable land.

People don't want to live in the empty areas because there is no water and/or no jobs and/or bad weather. What do you propose, pick 10 million people and tell them they have to live in northern nevada and not move so it can be fuller?

What are the unused factors of production? GM auto plants? There's good reasons most of them are closed and moving a couple tens of millions of people to the US would not change them.  Labor - we laready have 20% unemployment - how would adding tens of millions of people help that - build them free houses?


Where else do you see all this unused land - I guess all over Europe as we have the same population density if you take out the deserts. China has tons of unused land as well - are they underpopulated? Even if you drive in India or Pakistan, most of the land appears empty. Are they underpopulated? How about Hong Kong - if you drive through the new territories there is a ton of unused land there. How about Manhattan - there's all that unused land in Central Park. Is there anywhere you think does not have tons of unused land.


Mon, 09/26/2011 - 19:13 | 1713223 mjk0259
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Maybe they want to make sure they can financially support their kids and maybe even pass on a significant amount of wealth to them. Also, maybe they spend a LOT of time and effort on each kids and this has to be balanced with other things like earning a living. Whereas your low IQ person might have no idea how to support even themselves without welfare and put only minimal effort into childraising and just have everyone else pay for the expenses of raising them and later keeping many of them in jail.


Mon, 09/26/2011 - 19:28 | 1713260 Dr. Acula
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>just have everyone else pay for the expenses of raising them

Isn't this a logical tactic?


Mon, 09/26/2011 - 20:18 | 1713403 mjk0259
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Yes, but when too many people do it, the overall standard of living goes down rapidly which is what we are presently experiencing. Being subject to a rapacious ruling class accelerates the process greatly.

Mon, 09/26/2011 - 21:02 | 1713526 knowless
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are you serious? you think the faceless state has the ability to be a caring parent to a child?

Tue, 09/27/2011 - 03:46 | 1713986 AnAnonymous
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when the ingenious stop conquering, they are outbred by the cretins.


How US citizenish.

The ingenious have not stopped conquering. There is nothing left to conquer.

On the contrary, it is the opposite. The ingenious have outbred the cretins so much they are now constrainted to comical solutions like wishing for killing people who do not consume in order to free resources for the ingenious.

The current crisis is the crisis of the ingenuity. All Ponzis of the world were not thought by cretins, they were not implemented by cretins. But they have fed off cretins.

The world is running out of cretins. Too many ingenious, not enough cretins.

But this is a US world order and racism is an important feature. It cant not racists whose dementia has led the white world to hold and control 83~86pc of all the world resources and built an unsustainable system that has not even lasted two centuries before hitting the line.
Good luck for them in their conquest line as the remaining resources to expand on is not that much and that a superior needs an inferior to feel superior.

The US is the problem, not the solution.

Mon, 09/26/2011 - 18:09 | 1713093 Goldenballs
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From bad times come great things,always been that way til now .....

Mon, 09/26/2011 - 22:39 | 1713693 Vampyroteuthis ...
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This is another important lesson from nature: you’re either one of those who adapts, or you’re one of those who will perish. It’s that easy.

No it is not that easy. Disease, starvation, violence and eventually death come to many of those who are prepared. Do you think the Black Plague only struck those who were ready? It is a matter of luck or divine will that will decide in the end.

Tue, 09/27/2011 - 03:52 | 1713992 AnAnonymous
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Made me laugh.

US citizenism has led to misrepresent evolution. Evolution is mostly a passive process. One is adapted or is not.

You do not grow evolutive adaptive features. You are grown evolutive adaptative features.

The distinction is that human beings have adapted their environment instead of being adapted by it. And the very capacity to perform that action, highly consuming resources, is vanishing.

US world order have pushed through adaptation of the environment certain categories of the population up like greedy, innovative, hard working, ambitious etc...

But all these categories are not adaptated to what is coming next, the idiot, the frugal, the desireless, the lazy are adapted to what is coming next, a world of dwindling resources.

Mon, 09/26/2011 - 13:39 | 1711922 kengland
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"Personally, I want to be prepared for anything, and that’s why I’m investing my time, money, and energy into our resilient community project in central Chile."


Sure... Chilean govt is immune! LMAO! They'll take your shit down there too

Mon, 09/26/2011 - 13:50 | 1711971 kito
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ohhh nooo kengland, i hear chile is the greatest place in the entire planet. simon told us so. its impervious to economic/social collapse contagion, radiation fallout, meteorite impact. you name it, chile is SAFE SAFE SAFE!!!! and simon offers you free chilean inflation protection bonds when you purchase one of his one bedroom community oriented casitas for the grand asking price of $500,000!!! you dont want to be anywhere else, trust me--because simon knows!!!!

Mon, 09/26/2011 - 13:55 | 1711981 kengland
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Funny...his buddy Casey has a simular "operation" right across the boarder in Argentina. As was the case during the last hyperinflation go around, they will be at the door of Casey's compound with machetes in hand looking for something to eat from those rich morons.

Mon, 09/26/2011 - 14:10 | 1712082 Azannoth
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As far as I heard Caseys Cafayate is a nice place to visit for a few weeks in a year but not a place you'd want to live in, it's literary a backwatter in Argentina(a 3rd world country in it's own right)

Mon, 09/26/2011 - 14:12 | 1712094 GenX Investor
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I heard they were using the old abandoned Chilean mines to create utopian labyrinths.

Mon, 09/26/2011 - 14:12 | 1712097 Broomer
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Chile is also earthquake-proof, as everyone knows.

Mon, 09/26/2011 - 14:23 | 1712166 Deadpool
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and no volcanic activity.

Mon, 09/26/2011 - 14:29 | 1712196 tamboo
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beat me to it.

Mon, 09/26/2011 - 13:54 | 1711987 Robot Traders Mom
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@kengland troll-It is a community project, as you cite in your paraphrase. What that means is that you are generally never, entirely off the government grid anywhere, but you plan accordingly. You have a doctor in your group, electricians, mechanics, hunters, etc. so you can rebuild quickly and limit the impact of a global collapse. When people try to do that here, they are harassed by both the government and dipshits like yourself.


Get a fucking clue before you come in here and start posting stupid shit.

Mon, 09/26/2011 - 13:58 | 1712010 kengland
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Isn't that a CBS show and involves a million dollar prize for the winner that sells his group out? LMAO!!! Head your azz down to'll do ok.

Mon, 09/26/2011 - 14:04 | 1712040 oldman
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Hey Mom,

How about you---why don't you go to Chile and check it out? There are a lot of Chilenos in Ecuador and the rest of South America----of course, maybe they are all crazy. Or ask other Americans in that paradise----and I don't mean los gringos de los eeuu.

I don't care, but I heard from quite a few returnees from Chile that it is difficult there----unless one is a generous source of funds

I don't know a thing about it    I just hear things      om

Mon, 09/26/2011 - 14:08 | 1712066 kito
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are you kidding me robotradersmom?? the only troll here is the traveling wilbury who wrote the fucking article.

Mon, 09/26/2011 - 14:24 | 1712172 Deadpool
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will there be fertile young girls for procreation/recreation? sounds like Waco.

Mon, 09/26/2011 - 14:34 | 1712216 tamboo
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i was thinking more along the lines of warren jewfs, err, jeffs compound but koresh looked kosher too.

mr. black seems to be quite fond of wandering too.

Mon, 09/26/2011 - 14:28 | 1712195 Banjo
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When there is no iPad, iPhone, gold, silver or money to take what will they remove?

Far bigger harvest of goods and money available in large cities. Where is your money? Mine gold and silver in a crisis is waiting for government harvest. Read your history such is life. Two words enjoy today.

Mon, 09/26/2011 - 15:33 | 1712475 Chump
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Well yeah, and get to pickin'

Mon, 09/26/2011 - 13:39 | 1711924 DogSlime
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Weird... feels like I've just read a big bunch of fuck-all.

Mon, 09/26/2011 - 13:44 | 1711929 Deadpool
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why does Simon Black have cred? who gives a shit what he says and what past success has he banked on to have devoted followers? seems like a young punk to me that needs his nose rearranged. I guess "Gault's Gulch" pied piper is the trend for these blogers. Jonestown anyone? Mosquito coast. fuck him! I wouldn't follow him into a brothel at midnight.

Mon, 09/26/2011 - 13:56 | 1711996 rufusbird
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Develping timeshare real estate investments there offer his readers...?

Mon, 09/26/2011 - 13:59 | 1712013 BigJim
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Why would you follow anyone into a brothel at midnight?

Mon, 09/26/2011 - 14:02 | 1712030 Deadpool
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Mon, 09/26/2011 - 14:13 | 1712099 hooligan2009
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free beer?

Mon, 09/26/2011 - 14:30 | 1712207 Ahmeexnal
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To collect your money?

Mon, 09/26/2011 - 14:52 | 1712317 Silver Dreamer
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No, no, no.  To make a deposit.

Mon, 09/26/2011 - 13:59 | 1712014 Roy Bush
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Agreed.  Tyler post some Martin Armstrong stuff.  He's a crappy writer but he's a genius.  

Mon, 09/26/2011 - 14:37 | 1712240 tamboo
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he clearly isnt paid by the word, what a lazyass.

Mon, 09/26/2011 - 13:41 | 1711931 Cassandra Syndrome
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Tarzan Bitchez

Mon, 09/26/2011 - 13:42 | 1711932 tuco13
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Did I just read a coffee commercial?

Mon, 09/26/2011 - 13:44 | 1711935 Mercury
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This is another important lesson from nature: you’re either one of those who adapts, or you’re one of those who will perish. It’s that easy. Nature doesn’t play favorites, it simply separates those who are unprepared from the rest of the ecosystem.

Right.  It could be all about the next Darwin, not Lehman moment real soon...

Mon, 09/26/2011 - 13:46 | 1711951 NotApplicable
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Your's is not to wonder why.

Your's is but, to do or die.

Mon, 09/26/2011 - 13:47 | 1711955 DogSlime
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Right, yes.  Insightful?  Not really.  It's a statement of the obvious.

The Good, The Bad and The Ugly.

"There are two kinds of people in this world, my friend..."

Mon, 09/26/2011 - 14:18 | 1712140 bbq on whitehou...
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Darwin is all about luck or chance, not about skill or adaptation. The lucky live the un-lucky die. Simple.

Overtime this luck shows in things that allow for more luck, hence evolution. Its still all about chance.

Mon, 09/26/2011 - 14:54 | 1712326 Silver Dreamer
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Are you throwing our preparation entirely?  Fortune favors the prepared.  Smart people prepare for the worst but hope for the best.  My survival is NOT all about luck or chance.  Skills and preparation do help!

Tue, 09/27/2011 - 03:59 | 1713999 AnAnonymous
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Made me laugh. Once again, another disaster of US citizenism.

Yeah, evolution is random. There is no preparation. You dont prepare to evolve.

Evolution is not a product of will. It is passive. You are adapted or you are not. You are evolved. You dont evolve.

What has happend so far is human beings have adapted their environment, therefore no longer be adapted by it. This capacity consumes highly resources.

Funnily enough, one bit of that adaptation of the environment was the imposition of various social order to create layers between categories of human beings and the natural environment.

It is funny because in this US world order, it has been a game of extorting the weak and farming the poor. Poor and weak have been the habitat for extorters and farmers.

And guess what? The world is running out of weak to extort and poor to farm and what happens? Extorters and farmers are offering as a solution thinning even more the ranks of the poor and weak.

US world order. That is the kind of innovative solutions you can expect from US citizens.

Mon, 09/26/2011 - 13:44 | 1711939 newstreet
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Carthago delenda est.

Mon, 09/26/2011 - 13:44 | 1711945 hedgeless_horseman
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Looking for the source of denial? 

Mon, 09/26/2011 - 14:12 | 1712092 hooligan2009
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thats a river isn't it?

Mon, 09/26/2011 - 14:55 | 1712331 Silver Dreamer
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Yeah, and it's not in Chile.

Mon, 09/26/2011 - 21:21 | 1713566 mvsjcl
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And nowhere near Maun, either.

Mon, 09/26/2011 - 13:46 | 1711948 I did it by Occident
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Black Death= Surplus Labor Liquidation


Mon, 09/26/2011 - 14:03 | 1712037 BigJim
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Look around you. Does it look like there's nothing more to be done?

There's no such thing as 'surplus labor' - there's only labor that's too expensive to make it worthwhile to hire.

After the Black Death, labor became very scarce, wage inflation burgeoned, and the ruling classes persuaded government to legislate against the free movement of workers, not just across country borders, but between counties or even estates.

Mon, 09/26/2011 - 13:45 | 1711949 Crack-up Boom
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"Personally, I want to be prepared for anything, and that’s why I’m investing my time, money, and energy into our resilient community project in central Chile."

... but he's in South Africa.  I understand the money part, but how do you invest your time and energy in a resilient community project in Chile when you're half a world away?! 

Mon, 09/26/2011 - 13:51 | 1711972 SilverIsKing
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Penalty box for you.  Please re-read.

Mon, 09/26/2011 - 13:47 | 1711954 Sneeze
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My thoughts are your out of friggin touch with reality.  We all have the time and money to fly around the jungle in southern Africa and then jaunt over to Chile to play hobby farmer.

Hopefully you put all your trust fund money into your Chilean adventure so that your children are left with none and actually have to work for a living. 

Mon, 09/26/2011 - 13:49 | 1711963 Fate
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You could've just as easily gotten these revelations about Nature by spending a few minutes in your backyard, you patronizing pinhead.  Go watch the locals you hired hoe some of those rocky rows of yours in Chile, and quit wasting our time.

Mon, 09/26/2011 - 13:55 | 1711991 Deadpool
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Mon, 09/26/2011 - 14:34 | 1712227 trav7777
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but Africa is deeper and realer bc black people live there

Mon, 09/26/2011 - 13:49 | 1711964 sodbuster
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I’d love to hear your thoughts about what you think is coming down the road, and what you’re doing about it.<


Have guns and ammo- just in case.

Mon, 09/26/2011 - 13:50 | 1711969 prains
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As difficult as the economic end game may seem, though, humanity has faced overwhelming odds before, and I have no doubt in our ability to adapt and overcome. This is more of a transition period… a major turning point in human history that will lead to a renewed system and brighter days ahead.

In the 14th century when the Black Death was vanquishing populations by the million across Europe, few people probably saw the Renaissance coming… but it happened.  Humanity suffered a major blow, started again, and ultimately flourished.


HEY MUPPET noone saw the renaissance coming because they were ALL DEAD.

This isn't somebody having their period, wait fiave days and its game on.  MY kids are fucked, their kids are fucked GET IT>

Generational problems with real long lasting consequences for millions of people is not glossy fodder for your myopic travel diarrhea.

Typical fucking trust fund baby.

Mon, 09/26/2011 - 14:10 | 1712080 hooligan2009
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hey, you with the face! that made me almost split my sides..thanks.

Tue, 09/27/2011 - 04:02 | 1714002 AnAnonymous
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The best is that Black plays the US card: Humanity is sumed up to Europe.

What was the solution taken in that era? Expansion. And expansion performed at the expense of other human beings.

Trouble for expansionists in the western world: where to expand? The expansion process have been pushed forward to its utmost and the Earth is finite. So where to expand? Same answers as usual.

Typical US cheap propaganda.

Mon, 09/26/2011 - 13:51 | 1711976 web bot
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Web bot technology has picked up on the rise of regional structures for food and living. It's coming.

<I'm not associated with the web bot people.>

Mon, 09/26/2011 - 13:51 | 1711977 Big Corked Boots
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Wow! Another exciting installment of Simon Black's Travel Guide! Can't wait 'till he gets to Camden, NJ. "Notice how the natives are heavily armed..."

Mon, 09/26/2011 - 13:52 | 1711978 johnQpublic
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cue monty python


"run away, run away"


great way to deal with the problems of the developed nations...leave

try to build a nice self sustainable community in the US

cant even imagine the number of govt inspired roadblocks to that here

Mon, 09/26/2011 - 13:52 | 1711979 Deadpool
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doesn't Doug Casey have one of these ecodome places going up in Argentina and Stansbury in Nicaragua and Bill Bonner in Costa Rica? what's with these fucking guys and their Rand-ian messianic real estate ventures?

Mon, 09/26/2011 - 13:53 | 1711980 pupton
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Rather than waste my time commenting on this useless article, I'll waste it by saying that the commenters on are the biggest bunch of retards I have ever seen.  It never ceases to amaze me how ignorant most of them are.  I read an article about gold and then scrolled down to watch the monkeys hurl their feces at gold.  I'm not going to register there just to tell them what dipshits they are.  I'm no genuis, but one of my favorite comments included a funny grammatical mistake; "Your stupid".



Mon, 09/26/2011 - 13:54 | 1711988 Little John
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Preparation = PM (physical) to store wealth - Tools to create wealth - Weapons to defend wealth and freedom … and one more thing - A reason to live, a purpose for your existence which is greater than yourself.  The first three are easy.

Mon, 09/26/2011 - 15:00 | 1712355 Silver Dreamer
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The last one is easy too, for me at least: my children's liberty.

Mon, 09/26/2011 - 15:31 | 1712489 s2man
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Gee, one person answers the question, what are you doing to prepare?  The rest slam the auther for doing *something*. This isn't an investment site, we're here watching the freakin' system collapse.  Are you folks watching and not prep'ing?

Little John, you've got the bullets and bullion listed, you'll need some beans and beverages, too, until things settle down and you can use the PMs to buy stuff.  But I'm sure you've got that covered.  ;-)

Me?  I moved as far away from the city as I can stand to commute.  Long on physical assets.  Destroying debt as fast as possible.

Mon, 09/26/2011 - 13:57 | 1712004 TrustWho
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Back to the Future......Wikipedia

Serfdom was a condition of bondage or modified slavery which developed primarily during the High Middle Ages in Europe and lasted to the mid-19th century. Serfdom included the forced labor of serfs bound to a hereditary plot of land owned by a lord in return for protection and the right to work on fields they leased from their landlords to maintain their own subsistence. Serfdom involved not only work in owner's fields, but his mines, forests and roads. Manors formed the basic unit of society and the lord and his serfs were bound legally, economically, and socially. Serfs were laborers who were bound to the land; they formed the lowest social class of the feudal society. Serfs were also defined as people in whose labor landowners held property rights.

Mon, 09/26/2011 - 14:25 | 1712173 Broomer
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Serfs also payed 10% of their earnings to the landlord.

10% for the Church, 20% total.

And worked about half of the year because of the many festivals.

In the rare occasions where you would need to use money it would be gold and silver.

What a low life, now we do everything better. Progress!

Mon, 09/26/2011 - 13:58 | 1712009 scatterbrains
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balance a basket on your head bitches

Mon, 09/26/2011 - 13:58 | 1712011 TradingJoe
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Oh yes SB on tour again! Hehehehe!

Mon, 09/26/2011 - 13:59 | 1712016 Deadpool
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maybe Tyler should start a sustainable community in Detroit. I hear property can be had for $50 under a mile from Lion's stadium. if the loonie keeps falling with oil labor from across the border will be cheaper than Chilean or Argentine with their inflation running +30%.

Mon, 09/26/2011 - 14:39 | 1712253 trav7777
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Detroit?  i guess if you want the "Zimbabwe" experience, sure...I think the Silverdome sold for like $50

Mon, 09/26/2011 - 16:45 | 1712860 JW n FL
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The roof of the silverdome is the problem..

we looked at the deal, when things looked good.. but even with the gambling that will be allowed there.. it will still take the markets shaking themselves out first.

and Sam is a nice guy (the owner) so lets try to cut him a lil slack, huh?

Mon, 09/26/2011 - 14:03 | 1712036 gaoptimize
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I hope you are not on the maps of the Chilean military or other armed groups, because such a rich target might be occupied early in any volatile situation.  It would have been better to lay low.

Mon, 09/26/2011 - 14:04 | 1712042 Atch Logan
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Well, Simon, what a trip; what were you smoking?  Don't tell.  We know.  This little article is like a capsule regurgitation of World History 101.  Writing under my inferred influence of drugs is not new; I think that "The Ancient Mariner" became a "best seller" as a result thi s (his preference was Laudnum), but What The Hell.....With this pathetic shit you are not close to "Behind the Green Door."  Why waste everyones' time?

Mon, 09/26/2011 - 14:05 | 1712047 LFMayor
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What the African jungle taught me... come visit the shitholes of the world and throw trust fund money down a hole.

yeah, that and death by booga-booga.

I bet this nancy boy even wore a pith helmet, because he saw Mick Fleetwood wear one in the "hold me" video and thought it looked cool.

Mon, 09/26/2011 - 14:07 | 1712059 Fox-Scully
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It might have been more believable if he had walked in and not flown in!

Mon, 09/26/2011 - 14:08 | 1712062 Thadius T. Crunk
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"From whence" is redundant. Whence means from where.

Mon, 09/26/2011 - 14:11 | 1712068 Aeonios
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Eh, I'd preferr a real gulch to Simon's Chile project. I think he has the right idea since food and possibly energy shortages are a real concern, and a real concern to general sustainable development.


I think he's wrong if he thinks he can create anything significant without the benefit of sovereign immunity, tax exempt status, private infrastructure, and hard currency banking.


It would take someone like Donald Trump et al and a more open-source project format to attract the capital and labor necessary to make a community actually float.

Mon, 09/26/2011 - 14:09 | 1712070 New American Re...
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EGO - That state of mind where one attempts to give meaning to their over important life by throwing out where they've been and what they're doing, even if it doesn't make any sense and nobody gives a shit.    Gimme a fucking break, off flying over Africa to the cradle of mankind one million years ago?   Then a quantum leap to Chile, like it all makes sense and anyone gives two flying leaps.   And as if sometimes bi-ped mammals are related to modern man, blow me.   Ever hear of intelligent engineering?   Ever wonder why there is no missing link?   We were bred you self prescribed genius.   If you doubt that, take a look at a fruit and vegetable chart and which plant life is associated with what associated part or function of the human body.    Do you really think this is all an accident, just happenstance?   I'll bet you think our government, the banks and private central banking just go on about their day without a thought of who they're trying to control, and how they want to rule the world.   Go ahead, generate a few amps and put your brain power to work on something other than that which you've heard and seen.   You've got to look behind the door genius, instead of thinking the reflection is real.

Mon, 09/26/2011 - 14:12 | 1712091 soopy
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Who is Simon Galt...err... Black?

Mon, 09/26/2011 - 14:16 | 1712125 papaswamp
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Perhaps SB went hunting...

Mon, 09/26/2011 - 14:16 | 1712129 Peter K
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Hey, could I get a preferential position in the leadership heirarchy cause I'm a minority?

Mon, 09/26/2011 - 14:17 | 1712134 1835jackson
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"Humans stood up millions of years ago to defy harsh elements and even harsher predators." As soon as I read that I dismissed the rest of the article. Millions of years...are you really sure about that? Mankind cannot evolve out of our sinful nature no matter what science and technology discover. 

Mon, 09/26/2011 - 14:19 | 1712145 Deadpool
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we should start a class action lawsuit against his Mosquito Coast/jamestown for discrimination.

Mon, 09/26/2011 - 14:25 | 1712174 Farmer Brown
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"For the last week or so, I’ve had the good fortune to be out in the jungles and savannah brush of southern Africa."


LOL!!!!!  I knew this was a Simon "Cooler-than-Indiana-Jones" Black article before even seeing the by-lline.  What a crock of unadulterated total flying bullshit!!!!!  Unadulterated flying batshit up a rats-ass flying circles around real bullshit. 

Tyler, stop printing thios guys crap, or Zero-Hedge will soon have as much credibility as the Euro, or worse, Greece, or worse, Papanliesalotupus or whatever the hell his name is.


Mon, 09/26/2011 - 14:27 | 1712192 Zola
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I hear they are doing a Mars "offearth" experiment in Antartica, apparently involves having to live cut off from the world for 2years to simulate a Mars mission. Maybe Simon should go volunteer and investigate that ?

Mon, 09/26/2011 - 14:34 | 1712202 fyrebird
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I didn't get this piece at all. I'm a biologist, don't talk to me about Nature while mixing in a bunch of manifest human destiny mumbo-jumbo from the 1700s. We're way past that, buckwheat.

And another thing, nature has nothing to do with the human experience today, and has not for a couple hundred years at least. We blew nature the fuck up, is what happened. And we're still blowing it the fuck up, as fast as we can. If anything we're starting to pay a price for that. My guess is our progeny will keep paying our bill to nature for at least 1000 years.

If you want a lesson from nature, I'll give you one. It has nothing to do with adaptation, nobody adapts to anything. That is a massive misstatement of Darwin. No, what happens is you run like hell. The future is to the swift, them as can get the fuck out of the way. You swim or migrate or fly or burrow or encrust or bud or spore or cocoon  or some other extremely clever evasion and get the fuck out of the way. Some later generation might adapt, good on them, but not you no sir. Nature says jump and you don't stop and ask which way or how high or what's the brokerage fee, you jump in six directions at once and pray that one of them is the right one or even half way close. Otherwise without a lucky guess that later generation is already dead, sharing your own grave. So much for adapting.

That's what nature wants you to know, Simon. Leave the kumbaya adaptation hand-holding at the door to Hell, this world is becoming the planet of the quick. Outrun this rolling disaster or feed it your living flesh. Eternity cares not.

-= the fyrebird =-

Tue, 09/27/2011 - 17:53 | 1716444 Jena
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+1  Agreed.  For the last ten years or so, I've followed a site that you might know, Fyre:  ProMED (  Pro-MED reports information about infectious diseases of humans, animals and plants around the world.  Reading ProMed on a regular basis is kind of like reading ZeroHedge in that you want to know about it but you also feel like your hair is on fire because the world is not the safe place you'd like to believe it is.  For instance, everyone knows that antibiotic resistance is growing but when you actually read how many cases of extreme drug resistent TB in a particular country or count the number of times people on airplanes are put on prophylactic antibiotics because they traveled with someone who later tested positive for TB you're reminded that this really does count.  (Antibiotic resistance affects lots of other diseases as well, but non-resistant TB already requires a year for treatment with several antibiotics.  Resistance makes the treatment tougher.)  Or the spread of measles and mumps due to the decrease of basic vaccinations.  Or the spread of disease in food stocks.  And those are just the start.

Civilization may crumble because of a financial crisis.  Or that crumbling may be sparked by a health crisis for which we are completely unprepared.  (No, I haven't seen "Contagion", and this isn't an attempt to pump it.)  ZH posters talk about the golden era of growth here in the U.S. of the Social Security Ponzi scheme and economic growth.  The health industry sort of had a golden age, too.  Antibiotics worked, many drugs companies produced vaccines and the urgent, life-threatening shortage of drugs was something that only occurred in 3rd world countries.  We believed in a lot of the surgeries that were performed that we now know weren't as effective as other, less invasive measures.  Americans are fat and lazy and rapidly becoming diabetic.

We are ripe for the taking.  In addition to being prepared in all the ways normally cited, be sure to be as healthy as possible.  It's the only way to stay quick.

Mon, 09/26/2011 - 14:30 | 1712203 Vinny
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What a dumbass post. Funny though. I am personally flying all over NYC looking at where one can make a sustainable biodome. South Bronx???-Maybe East Harlem???-Possible.

Come join me in my quest. Leave your donations at the door.

Mon, 09/26/2011 - 14:35 | 1712232 Lester
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Unless you have relatives who live in Argentina, Chile, Costa etc, moving there with expectation of "escape" or "seemless integration" is about as deluded as Blanche DuBois' timeless line of depravity:  "I've always depended upon the kindness of strangers"...

In the global collapse scenario, the mark of gross ineptitude is to relocate into an alien culture without 100% mastery of language and blood-ties to a goodly number of those who are well-established in your area.  Better to relocate to the jungle, and be prepared for the venomous snakes, jackals, hyenas, and predatory cats rather than come into an alien society and not understand how the social predators and snakes function and prey upon those they lord over in government & society.  Those who know only how to shake-down others will happily add you to their list.

If it ain't sunk into your cognitive capacity that those who make the rules change them continually to rob and plunder you who are their defined prey, then you are gonna lose what you're trying to preserve no matter where you relocate.

The nancy-boy author needed to spend some time in the Okavango Delta rather than just fly over.  Hunting in an environ where you aren't at the top of the food-chain is the real eye-opener for awareness and coming to grips with the reality of the world we live in.


Mon, 09/26/2011 - 14:36 | 1712237 ddtuttle
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Simon is right here.  Populations go through cycles of growth, overcrowding followed by mass extinction.  The resulting gene pool is stronger and more adaptable afterwards.  

The main problem is that we have deluded ourselves about how much we know about economics.  We don't undertand it at all.  We probably could have developed a theory of economics that could have prevented this disaster, but the whole subject was corrupted a long time ago.  Economics as currently practiced is a thin veneer of psuedo-mathematics wrapped around a political philosophy.  In other words, it s just a proaganda tool.  Instead of science we have cults.  We have the cult of Marx, the cult Keynes, the cult of Friedman, Ayan Rand, Ronald Regan, John Birch, Lenin, Chairman Mao, Zippy the Pinhead and the list goes on.

Unfortunately, we have bet the farm on this shit.  We have built a huge financial system that MUST work correctly for us just to survive.  But its all baed on this psuedo-sociology.  It's all tripe.  We removed all the reserve limits on banks, so what we practice now is ZERO RESERVE BANKING.  We have blown the biggest credit bubble in the history of the world, the mother of all credit bubbles all glued together with $1Quadrillion in deriviatives.  

So the system will collapse, just like a building based on bad structural engineering.  The world will come down just like the two towers.  The Titianic was a precient metphor for the hubris of European leaders in starting world war one. The towers will be our precient metaphor for an unsound financial system.

 If you're a trader you don't care.  You trade whatever whenever.  But if you're human, you need to protect yourself from yet another round of grotesque human folly.

Mon, 09/26/2011 - 14:44 | 1712276 Farmer Brown
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Yeah sure, but SB is full of shit even if he is right about everything you just said.  "Flying over Africa/ Google in the middle of nowhere and that's probably where I've been"?  Could he be more full of shit?  Pa-leeze.

The reason he has to come up with all this bullshit is because he has to zero in and target bullshit-believers so he can then sell them a bullshit investment in Chile.  It's actually brilliant marketing I suppose.  I mean, if you believe a letter like this, and countless others, you are probably an excellent candidate to invest in his "community".  I am sure they will be fabulously succesfull harvesting bullshit farms. 

Mon, 09/26/2011 - 15:06 | 1712370 fyrebird
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The resulting gene pool is stronger and more adaptable afterwards.  

No. That is absolutely backwards, and very dangerous thinking. Less is less, less is never more.

A species bottleneck is the gate to Hell. You emerge reduced in both absolute numbers and genetic diversity. As an example all African cheetahs are clones of each other, they have no genetic variety at all, because their species was squeezed through a massive population bottleneck at some point in their past. Probably a handful of individuals were all that kept the species going into the present day.

There is nothing good comes from a massive contraction. You lose everything. You come out shattered and alone, desperate for a mate, struggling to find your habitat again. What doesn't kill you makes you stronger? Nope. What doesn't kill you tries to kill you again later, and you probably won't survive the second round and if you do, you have no future anyway. Just like the cheetahs.

So too humans. Our cultures, our languages, our technology. Everyone naturally assumes this all goes through the narrow hole of contraction intact and the "winners" are then chosen by God to inherit a garden planet. Oh man are you hicks ever in for a surprise. The world as we knew it is already gone. We might not get a round two. And there won't be any iPads and Dancing with the Stars where we're headed.

Mon, 09/26/2011 - 18:58 | 1713156 Dr. Acula
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>And there won't be any iPads and Dancing with the Stars where we're headed.

Correct. It will be iBrainImplants, and Philosophizing with the Cyborgs.

A statism-caused worldwide currency collapse will cause many deaths but it certainly won't extinguish the free market. Unlike every other beast, human beings are capable of economic calculation, i.e. the rational allocation of scarce resources. That's why your biology-based prognostications aren't valid.


Mon, 09/26/2011 - 19:42 | 1713295 fyrebird
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Okay that was pretty damned funny.

No sorry, humans are not capable of calculating fuck all. We've got a global advertising industry that must be worth at least $500B a year that's kept busy simply messing with peoples' minds. And that doesn't include similar "calculations" on the part of professional sports, religion or education. It's like 5 million years of evolution were later bent to the single purpose of turning people into sponges.

Mon, 09/26/2011 - 20:04 | 1713370 Dr. Acula
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>We've got a global advertising industry that must be worth at least $500B a year that's kept busy simply messing with peoples' minds.

Advertising is an integral part of production. Just like sweeping the floor at a restaurant is necessary: it is not enough to produce good-tasting food; it's the overall experience that counts. Without advertising, how is the potential consumer to even know what products he might be interested in? And the fact that advertising is shrill and inane is simply a reflection of the masses it is designed to reach.

Mon, 09/26/2011 - 14:47 | 1712295 Farmer Brown
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So he is a total scamster after all.  Thanks much, Hammondo.  I hope Tyler see this and we hear no more from Mr. Indiana Bullshit Jones

Mon, 09/26/2011 - 14:42 | 1712272 Logans_Run
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Simon Black the reincarnation of David Koresh?

Mon, 09/26/2011 - 14:49 | 1712302 Macker
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This is Sovereign Man's worst posting yet. I am going to cancel that daily email I get after reading about Simon's jungle trek that has reinforced his insane notion that we should all pack up and go to Chile and join what increasingly sounds like a sect of lunatics.

Mon, 09/26/2011 - 14:50 | 1712303 Georgesblog
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The timeline that I like to talk about in this context involves three generations. The first generation rides the error of it's ways, all the way to the bootom. The second generation suffers the consequences while learning hard lessons to teach their children. The third generation has the realistic worldview to build a society that works and prospers. Unfortunately, we are the generation that's on the downside of the curve.

Mon, 09/26/2011 - 14:48 | 1712304 Macker
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This is Sovereign Man's worst posting yet. I am going to cancel that daily email I get after reading about Simon's jungle trek that has reinforced his insane notion that we should all pack up and go to Chile and join what increasingly sounds like a sect of lunatics.

Mon, 09/26/2011 - 14:52 | 1712314 Burgess Shale
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I quit reading at "Here in the birthplace of life itself...."  Poetic?  Yes.   Bullshit?  Also yes.

Mon, 09/26/2011 - 15:54 | 1712629 fyrebird
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There is not life except for human life. Didn't you know that? You should signup for my newsletter. I can learn you something.

Mon, 09/26/2011 - 15:06 | 1712384 Lester
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It ain't humanity that bet the farm on "civilization".

It is the two-legged predators who perverted civilization to serve their purposes, which like wolves taking down a moose in winter, only intend to plunder a carcass and move on to the next kill.

America and the world has been ruined and plundered by the predators who lord over us in every social structure and business environment.  These fucks have killed the nations they preyed upon, and ostensibly served; not having enough brains to even preserve their poaching environment. 

Pretty decent analogy to farming.  Farmers learned not to promote dust-bowl like conditions and preserve their topsoil with contour tilling and disking rather than plowing where viable.  Also to rotate crops and plant crops that replenish nutrients in off-years.  Otherwise all they do is derive a couple good years of yield, then diminish returns, finally land ruined they move on elesewhere to repeat the cycle. 

Those who have steered the ship of Civilization turned out to be no better than the Cornish Scuttlers who deliberately wrecked ships to gain a few hours of plunder.  It is these persons who are toxic to humanity and need be eradicated...



Mon, 09/26/2011 - 15:09 | 1712393 Mec-sick-o
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Damm, I am in tears... lol most comments are so funny.


Mon, 09/26/2011 - 15:21 | 1712437 New American Re...
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You know where I'm going, I'm going some place that's not on a fault line, like Chile.   Maybe Northern Wisconsin in anticipation of global warming and an alternate place in Texas, near my family and close to the coast, in case its global cooling and I need the warmth of the oceans to survive.   But one place I won't be, is New Madrid, Mo, or death trap fucking Chile where it takes an American technical know-how to dig you out of your hole, or New Zealand where the dumbfucks spend thousands on a poor penguin that washes up on their shores, gets him used to the good life, then tosses him out in the middle of the ocean where he obviously didn't want to go, so they could feed some cruising great white shark a snack at sunset.    Fucking A, Simon Dumbshit is more like it.

Mon, 09/26/2011 - 15:40 | 1712541 Hobbleknee
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He lost all cred at overpopulation.

Mon, 09/26/2011 - 15:55 | 1712621 bid the soldier...
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Didn't read the post, but watched "Out Of Africa" last night.

Baroness Blixen's husband has joined the English volunteers at the border of Kenya and the German colony. He sends word to his wife to send supplies. She packs up a wagon with the supplies, drawn by 16 oxen and herself leads the trip. The second night out after penning the oxen behind some dagger-like thorn brush, she hears lions getting into the pen. There's no rifle around so she grabs a bull whip and somehow she gets in to the pen before her men and starts whipping the lions who have brought down and killed an ox. Her servants get in, the lions exit, her back is shredded from the thorns. Her factotum, Farah, dresses her wounds and says:

"Msabu is bleeding. She does not have this ox.
This lion is hungry. He does not have this ox.
This wagon is heavy. It does not have this ox.

God is happy, Msabu. He plays tricks with us."

This is what the "Out Of African" jungle taught me about the collapse.

You should rent it or download it. It won 7 Oscars in 1985.
See it or see it again.

Mon, 09/26/2011 - 15:59 | 1712651 mjk0259
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24% of the people in Botswana have AIDS. Not counting the other 20% that already died from it. This in a lightly populated wealthy country that is basically a bunch of diamond and other precious mineral mines. Didn't you notice that?

Mon, 09/26/2011 - 19:02 | 1713196 Dr. Acula
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Fortunately this disease has become milder over the decades, just as syphilis has over the centuries.

It is not a vector-borne disease like malaria.


Mon, 09/26/2011 - 19:18 | 1713235 mjk0259
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Tell that to kids of the 20% of Botswana's population that died of it.

True, AIDS can be controlled with some rather expensive medications which that country could afford but it only puts off the end for 10 or 15 years. A much simpler and cheaper method is to use a rubber which costs a few cents. Or not to have sex with every random person that comes along. Or maybe not to cut out the clitoris of the women so that there is less blood and risk of transmission during sex. The failure to adopt these latter methods is a demonstration of the importance of IQ. Without IQ , a country that is basically a big gold and diamond min, can still make life a miserable hell for most of the population.


Mon, 09/26/2011 - 19:44 | 1713304 Shock and Aweful
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Look around you sometimes what you see in this society the portrait of intelligence? 

I'd call what we have surrounding us madness....I'd call it a festering diesease.

I'd almost call it demonic (if I subscribed to a religion)

So tell me is western culture more "advanced" and worth more? 

(that is what you are saying afterall)

Mon, 09/26/2011 - 20:24 | 1713422 mjk0259
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1. Recently, no witch hunts in the literal sense. Plenty of them in Africa

2. Electricity.

3. Air conditioning. Central heat

4. Antibiotics

5. Ability to purchase food for most people at a low percentage of income.

6. Libraries

7. Wide variety of electronic distractions as opposed to sitting in desert waiting to see if UN can get food delivery through warlords.

8. Women rarely get their clitoris cut out and don't have to go out with blankets wrapped around them.

9. Can cook with gas or electricity rather than looking for buffalo dung or twigs

10. Beer without whipping/death penalty



Mon, 09/26/2011 - 20:45 | 1713447 Dr. Acula
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>how is western culture more "advanced" and worth more? 

It's more advanced and enlightened because it could murder 14 million people with the Holocaust, cause 50+ million deaths (WWII), and drop fission weapons to incinerate innocent people.

It's more advanced because it can engineer a worldwide currency collapse.

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