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Submitted by Brandon Smith from Alt-Market

What Kind Of Power Should Government Have Over Your Life?

The concept of government power is a strange and complex cipher.  The existence of governments has always been predicated on assumptions of necessity, but few societies have ever truly considered what those necessities might be.  What is government actually good for?  What do they do that is so important?  And, what happens when a government fails in the roles and duties that a culture deems vital?  We tend to view government as an inevitability of life, but the fact is, government is NOT a force of nature, it is a creation of man, and it can be dismantled by men just as easily as it can be established.

In America, many people see government as an extension of the Republic, or even the source, and an animal that feeds at the behest of the common citizen.  An often heard argument against the idea of drastic change or even rebellion within the establishment system is the assertion that the government “is us”.  That it is made of Americans, by Americans, and for Americans.  That there is no separation between the public, and the base of power.  This is, of course, a childish and fantastical delusion drawn from a complete lack of understanding as to how our system really operates today.  How many people out there who make this argument really believe at their very core that they have any legitimate influence over the actions of the state?  I wager not many…   

At bottom, to cling to the lie that the government as it stands is a construct of the people is an act of pure denial designed to help the lost masses cope with underlying feelings of utter powerlessness.  

Unfortunately, the U.S. government has shown clearly through word and action that its concerns are not with the average American, and that its loyalties rest with decidedly smaller and more elite interest groups.  When elections once meant to dissuade political abuse become a false paradigm tool for the maximization of tyranny, have we not lost our voice as a society?  When any government decides it is no longer concerned with the freedom and prosperity of a nation, no matter how righteous that government claims to be, we MUST, as citizens, ask ourselves whether that government is still useful to us, and what kind of power it should be allowed to wield.   It is a dereliction of our duty not just as Americans but as human beings to simply treat government as a realm outside of our control or concern.  It is lazy.  It is dangerous.  It could very well be disastrous.  Government should answer to us, now and forever.

As the new millennium stampedes forward, however, it appears that the intended roles of the American dynamic have been reversed.  The progression of the past decade has seen a hailstorm of legislation and executive orders that impede personal liberties and erode Constitutional protections in place for centuries.  So many trails towards totalitarianism have been blazed recently that it is becoming difficult to track them all, and yet, I do not think many in our country have asked themselves what this means to their future.  What kind of rights are you ready to hand over to government?  How many aspects of your life should the establishment be able to dictate?  How much freedom are you willing to give away?

While pondering these questions, each man and woman should also take into account the powers that those in government THINK they deserve.  What have they asked for lately?  What have they taken without permission?  Here is just a short list of the more detrimental declarations of authority attempted over the past decade along with the pieces of legislation and executives orders used to make them “all legal”…

The Power To Invade Your Privacy

The U.S. government has long held at least a private belief that it should be allowed access to every aspect of a citizens personal life.  In the past, the excuse of criminal suspicion was a standard rationalization, but this expanded beyond the targeting of individuals to broader surveillance of the populace as a whole with the advent of the drug war.  Financial records especially became subject to government perusal without warrant and generally without any criminal charges filed. 

This trampling of the 4th Amendment over a fabrication of a “war” on substances that by all rights should be legal anyway was just a taste of what was to come.  With the explosion of the war on terror (another fabricated conflict), the application of mass surveillance became standardized.  The Patriot Acts and the FISA bill, both upheld by so called “Republican” and “Democratic” presidents, have opened the door for centralized electronic spying in the name of “national security”.  Never before has the world seen such an unbridled assault on the private lives of common citizens.  The big brother grids of the Soviet era are child’s play compared to the data mining of the 21st century, and this tyranny is made possible by the marriage of government and corporate interests, working in tandem to ensure an ever tightening net.

The usual ill conceived debate point for such surveillance is the claim that it is “for the greater good”, for our own safety, and that if we have nothing to hide, we have nothing to fear.  It is not uncommon for slaves to embrace the loss of privacy in the name of safety, even if that feeling of safety is an illusion, but, in the end, whether we have something to hide is none of the government’s concern.  In a true Republic, innocent until proven guilty is a paramount ideal, and this ideal cannot exist in a country where everyone is treated as a suspect at every moment of every day.  No politician, no corporate body, no president, no alphabet agency in existence is exalted enough to play the all seeing all judging eye of god.  This kind of power in the hands of an organization whose sole purpose is self preservation and expansion at any cost?  Absolutely unacceptable!

The Power To Silence

From the DHS, to the private Federal Reserve, to Google and Facebook, the tides of opinion and social observation are being tracked, catalogued, and flagged for future intervention.  With active programs now in place to identify and isolate negative online criticism of these institutions as well as to marginalize freelance web journalists and more mainstream media icons with a strong voice, the general public is finally beginning to see what we in the Liberty Movement have been warning about for years:

http://abcnews.go.com/US/dhs-creates-fake-accounts-monitor-social-networks/story?id=15247533#.T2mCinkkU3E

http://articles.latimes.com/2011/sep/29/business/la-fi-fed-facebook-20110929

The invasion of privacy is merely the first step in the process of silencing dissent.  If the citizenry is put in a position in which they know they are constantly being watched, they may decide to censor themselves to avoid possible retribution.  In fact, the destruction of free speech has always been accomplished in history first by the target population itself. Terrified of real and imagined consequences, people begin to filter their own views, until a single harmless and homogenized collective voice forms.

The near miss of SOPA legislation has proven as well that the government hopes to one day be able to summarily vaporize internet outlets based on whatever guidelines they see fit to apply.  It also showed that the American public is not going to roll over while this occurs.  I think it safe to say that the internet is the very last bastion of free speech in the world, free from filtration, bureaucratic meddling, and corporate vampirism.  SOPA was a test case.  New and more subversive methods will arise, and shutting down the web as we know it will be a number priority for our government for the foreseeable future.

“Free speech zones” aside, protest is becoming far more difficult in this country.  Less-than-lethal devices like tasers, rubber bullets, tear gas, sound cannons, microwave guns, etc. have “humanized” the act of government violence against peaceful protest, but the effects of violating the 1st Amendment are the same.  Add to this the use of Fusion Centers to coordinate armies of riot cops with the help of the DHS, the FBI, and even the military, and you have a high grade goon machine constructed to undermine the people’s right to redress grievances.  It has become obvious that this government not only wants to stifle your ability to affect change through electoral means, but it is also determined to make sure you can’t openly complain about being muscled out of the political process either.

The Power To Financially Destroy

Of course, much of the economic distress that we suffer today was generated by the corrupt activities of the Federal Reserve (a privately controlled banking cartel) and global financing conglomerates like JP Morgan and Goldman Sachs, however, the government’s complicity in these activities cannot be denied.  It was the Congressional repeal of the Glass-Steagall Act that gave international banks the ability to derivitize massive numbers of mortgages and create the ongoing implosion of the housing bubble.  It was the SEC that turned the other cheek for years while credit fraud flooded markets and ratings agencies gave AAA status to toxic and basically worthless assets.  It is the U.S. government to this day that defends the Federal Reserve’s nonstop quantitative easing, the destruction of the dollar, and increased deficit spending driving our nation even deeper into debt.  The passage of the bailouts despite an 80% opposition from the public sent a stark message; the government does not care what you think about the economy, and will do what it pleases, even if it means destroying your means of fiscal survival. 

The Power To Imprison Without Trial

The NDAA is truly a perfect representation of the kind of power the government would like to have over the people, no questions asked.  The Obama Administration’s half hearted promises to not use the provisions of the legislation to detain American citizens indefinitely without trial are little comfort, especially when one considers that the man has not kept a single positive promise since taking office in 2008.  Frankly, I would have slightly more respect for the president (which isn't much) if he had the guts to come out and admit what the language of the NDAA clearly states; that American citizens can and will be designated as enemy combatants under the rules of war, and that anyone, regardless of citizenship, can be labeled a “terrorist” for any reason by the executive branch.

I suppose the one good side-effect of the passage of the NDAA is the level of awakening going on in the American public to the direction our country is taking.  Not to mention, the scrambling that political representatives now have to do to cover themselves and explain away their support for the draconian measures.

For those who do not grasp the ultimate goal of this kind of legislation, the NDAA seems outlandish, or insane.  But, in a certain light, it is perfectly logical.  A government that seeks totalitarian control is REQUIRED to remove the protections that a jury trial affords, otherwise, it cannot function in the manner it desires.  If a person is given the opportunity of a jury by his peers, this takes the ability to criminalize out of the hands of government and places it in the hands of a third party.  Just as in the economy, the globalists who stand at the helm of our country would very much like to centralize law.  This means removing all checks and balances from the equation.  In the name of national security, Washington D.C. considers all things possible…

The Power To Kill Without Trial

Another program supported by both Republican and Democratic presidents, the ability to assassinate American citizens without trial based on mere accusations from the executive branch is a highly useful tool for tyranny.  Over the past couple years the questions have always been; how far do they plan to take this policy, and, will they try to use it against American citizens on American soil?  These questions have been indirectly answered by FBI head Robert Mueller when he tried to dodge them in a recent hearing:

Mueller’s claim that he is “not sure” if Americans can be assassinated on U.S. soil is the same as an admission that this is at the very least being considered.  Given the legaleze wrangling that both Mueller and Eric “Fast and Furious” Holder have tried to implement in rationalizing the use of assassination, I find it hard to fathom that anyone would NOT expect they would use the policy for Americans on home turf.  The power to kill or imprison without trial is expressly forbidden by Constitutional law and the Bill of Rights.  Such abuses were the primary cause of the Revolutionary War, yet, here we are again, dealing with the same murderous reasoning with a slightly different face.

The Power To Militarize

Federal fusion centers and funding for local law enforcement has irreparably damaged state and county objectivity and opened the door to a steady diet of anti-liberty propaganda for police officials across the nation.  Some eat it up, some don’t.  However, the issue here is one of intention.  Why does the federal government feel the need to arm divisions of local law enforcement with automatic weapons, predator drones, and even tanks?  Why is Congress going out of its way to free up FAA regulations to allow police organizations unprecedented access to predator drones, up to 30,000 by 2020, for use in civilian airspace?

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/feb/7/coming-to-a-sky-near-you/?page=all

Why does the DHS suddenly need 450 million rounds of .40 cal ammunition from ATK?

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/atk-secures-40-caliber-ammunition-contract-with-department-of-homeland-security-us-immigration-and-customs-enforcement-dhs-ice-2012-03-12?reflink=MW_news_stmp

And why has Obama quickly and quietly signed the Executive Order for National Defense Resources Preparedness?  Though many will claim the order only rehashes such continuity of government policies seen in older programs like Rex 84, I find it a bit disconcerting that our government suddenly feels the need to rehash Rex 84 powers at all! 

http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2012/03/16/executive-order-national-defense-resources-preparedness

The order is a claim to eminent domain, not just over land, but over every resource imaginable in the face of a “national emergency”.  Using military force, all goods, services, and property, can be confiscated in the name of support for military and governmental logistics.  In an article written in February titled “The DHS Defends Globalism, Not America”, I warned that Janet Napolitano’s language of supply chain protection and resource allocation could only be supported by the pilfering of goods from one place to feed another:

http://alt-market.com/articles/552-the-dhs-defends-globalism-not-america

Now we see that this was indeed the intention all along.  Given that the John Warner Defense Authorization Act allows the president to declare a national emergency and martial law for almost any reason at any time without oversight from Congress for at least 6 months, the possibility of vast programs of resource confiscation becomes much more likely. 

The power to militarize a culture at will, and to force that culture to work and produce in the name of the state and the benefit of the state is perhaps the most terrifying power of all.  It is, for all intents and purposes, the power to enslave. 

What Has Our Government Become?

Really, who needs terrorists when you have a government like ours?  If it is the widespread destruction of the principles that founded our society that you fear, then the last enemy you need worry about is the Muslim boogie man.  The greatest threat to our way of life is an institution that has always operated right under our noses and acted with impunity sheltered by the very borders it is tasked to defend.  It is the only group in existence that has the resources, the military backing, and the proven intent to undermine liberty in America.  It is the supreme threat to individual freedom in the world today.  And, the worst irony of all is that it commits every one of its crimes in our name. 

So, there comes a point when we have to decide what kind of respect this brand of monstrosity deserves?  It would appear that the government, or at least root elements of it, see the American people as the enemy.  And why not?  We are, in the end, the only force on the planet in a position to deconstruct the machine, so it only follows that we find ourselves locked in its crosshairs.  We have not been given much choice.  The only decision left to make is one within each individual.  How much do we really need the system, and how much pain and horror are we willing to endure to satisfy its insatiable hunger?  Where will we finally draw the line…?

 

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Wed, 03/21/2012 - 11:13 | 2276671 Alcoholic Nativ...
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Amen brother. 

 

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 11:14 | 2276670 Doubleguns
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Financial slaves. You are an income stream.

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 10:57 | 2276571 Money 4 Nothing
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"What Kind Of Power Should Government Have Over Your Life?"

I will answer in the words of our Forefathers that still echo in the Hallowed halls from which our Parchments were first penned....

NONE!  We empower them! But they don't want you to know that. Now they flipped the script because a Nation of citizens have been luled to sleep under the guise of "Keeping them safe". In the words of Ben Franklin..  "People willing to trade their freedom for temporary security deserve neither and will lose both." ...

When the Government empowered by "WE The People" to work in our best interest no longer works for We The People, it is our Constitutional DUTY to remove them from their offices, physically if necessary.

We as Americans are bound by this Constitutional duty to have them removed and arrested and to be held on charges for high crimes and misdemeanors against their Countries Laws they swore an Oath to uphold. Traitors! the whole lot of them.

We used to have public hangings on the White House Lawn for less back in the day.

By any means necessary, and it's totally legal. You cannot be tried for removing a tyrant holding a Public office that undermines We The Peoples will in a court of law (back when the Constitution and Bill of Rights meant something) So tyrants change and create laws to protect themselves from We The People because they know their fucking up and now you will be tried for a crime for exersizing this *inalienable right.

Americans have been trained to forget about the mighty power that our Forefathers left in our hands and what power we really weild over a Tyranicle Govt. for a reason. 

 

God Bless the US, but I fear were finished as a Republic. We have become a fucking Democracy, just as our Forefathers were trying to avoid.

 El Presidente' Obama. Dictator in Chief began exercising dictitorial powers from the very office he was *installed, he is ruling by decree = done!

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 11:07 | 2276623 tim73
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You are naive. It is all fun and games to behave like a caveman until you or one of your family members is injured or get real sick. Then some a-hole vendor sells you the wrong type of antibiotics or expired ones because nobody is going to tell the difference without any governmental supervision. Or doctor with fake credentials is operating your daughter.

We need governments but it is always a tricky business to get it right. Too much government and it is like living in Cuba, too little and your daddy is the closest warlord with his 50 cal gang and RPG wild boys.

Switzerland is probably close to optimum, quite a lot of direct referendums and government is pretty local and near your house, not in some faraway federal building.

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 12:04 | 2276722 Money 4 Nothing
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"It is all fun and games to behave like a caveman until you or one of your family members is injured or get real sick. Then some a-hole vendor sells you the wrong type of antibiotics or expired ones because nobody is going to tell the difference without any governmental supervision. Or doctor with fake credentials is operating your daughter."

Correct, that would be working in the best interest of We The People, but instead, they built a bureaucracy to line their own pockets and benefit from the laws they created for their own gain to ultimately serve whom? We The People? Last I checked, our Health care "model" is in shambles.

As for the rest of your *opinion, which you are wholly entitled to under 1A. OUR COUNTRY WAS FOUNDED BY DANGEROUS MEN!! If you want to hold our Republic or some semblance of, you better become dangerous or lose everything anyay. All chips have to be pushed in right now or go buy a Passport.

Gods law! Not mans law, that's why there is a war against Christianity because that's the RULE OF LAW this Nation was Founded on.

The Revolution will not be televised.. You willing to die for your Nations Freedom? I know of thousands of 3% that are.  Get with the program in all due respect because the economy is getting ready to be dropped on our heads.

Free men are armed, slaves are NOT!

This link is required reading for anyone who needs to know what's happening in our Country RIGHT NOW. I highly suggest reading this brief. Thanks. For the Republic!

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=29835

 

III%

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 11:53 | 2276809 Lednbrass
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There is absolutely nothing you mention that cant be handled on a state level.

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 11:31 | 2276730 francis_sawyer
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 "What Kind Of Power Should Government Have Over Your Life?"

None

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 11:45 | 2276775 Chump
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Since I could only hit the green once, here is another +1.

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 11:46 | 2276779 Money 4 Nothing
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The type of power that works in the best interest of We the People, not Tierny or subjucation of Liberties or Freedoms. 

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 10:41 | 2276575 marcusfenix
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now we have the add on to the EO Obama recently singed that allows for the resource takeover in times of peace as well as war.

you can now be charged by the federal government with a felony for protesting or occupying if they wish to do so.

indefinite detention, without due process, or outright execution is now a reality.

NBC or ABC is now posting primary final results 24hrs before the poles close, does anybody still really believe America is the home of "fair and free elections"?

FEMA corps, the gestapo "civilian security force that is just as large, just as well funded, trained and equipped as the military." is now a reality and not just idle campaign talking point chatter.

I could go on and on but what's the point?  our journey toward the dark side is complete already, and yes, more people are starting to take notice but so many more have simply accepted everything up to this point, that one has to wonder, is there anything the silent majority will not accept? is there any freedom,right, dignity or or individual thought or action they will not sacrifice upon the alter of homeland security?

I guess we'll find out.

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 10:48 | 2276589 stiler
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this change-- actually of the form of govt from national entity to world entity-- will favor those who can adapt themselves to change much like post Roman era. And it won't be those who are smarter or who grow new brain cells. There is no concensus in this country or anywhere to bring back what was. That would take belief in something much greater, like I don't know.. God?

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 10:50 | 2276592 zerozulu
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Ok, Let's compare US with DPRK.

The Power To Invade Your Privacy---Check

The Power To Silence----Check

The Power To Financially Destroy---Check

The Power To Imprison Without Trial---Check

The Power To Kill Without Trial----Check

The Power To Militarize---Check

The Power To Let you leave the Country----Hmmm

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 10:53 | 2276602 Catullus
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The intellectual tragedy of the past century has been the corruption of former humanists and classical liberals into believing that they could improve the human condition via use of the state. They have provided the intellectual cloak that the state needs to get the mass of people to acquiesce to them. That so long as the welfare state keeps pumping out the checks, the left will continue to excuse the abuses. They'll continue to look away from the brutishness and destruction of civil liberties. It's really a shame that the intellectual movement of the 18th and 19th century, the one that reminded the world "you are free by your nature" would sell out for a welfare check. Now it becomes "you wouldn't have any of these nice things without the state" (roads, schools, security, bridges, etc). It's a sell-out of epic proportions.

What's funny is that a liberal now has about as much principled understanding of the state as the Ayn Randian objectivists. The state is good to them because it serves their interests. You only ever argue over whose interests should be served.

The myth is dissolving though. Even people who are net benefitiaries of the state know that this can't last. They're just getting theirs before it finally collapses.

BTW, the bottom rung of the apologists for the state are the democracy worshippers. You don't vote yourself freedom, folks. You always had. You only ever vote to assign someone to take it away. It's becoming obvious that when people realize they have the ability to vote themselves money, there's never a motivation to do otherwise. It's what makes democracy THE most unstable of societies.

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 11:03 | 2276634 Alcoholic Nativ...
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I concur, liberals really are the ultimate scapegoat, next to Al-Qaeda that is.   

THEY  BOTH WANT TO TAKE YOUR FREEDOM! 

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 11:10 | 2276662 Catullus
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If liberals hadn't tried to make the world safe for democracy, al Qaeda never would have been a reactionary movement to US imperialism.

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 11:15 | 2276674 Alcoholic Nativ...
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damn them, damn them to hell.  I hear ya brother, the damn liberals caused Al-Qaeda too.  

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 13:44 | 2277166 AnAnonymous
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Excellent sequence. Beats anything you could find in US citizen comedies.

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 13:46 | 2277172 AnAnonymous
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If liberals hadn't tried to make the world safe for democracy,

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No, US citizens have tried to make the world safe to enable their consumption scheme.

Actually, when you look at it, they do not care about world safety as long as the local warring does not affect US citizen consumption schemes.

In fact, when you look closer at it, US citizens go against world safety when it favours their US citizen consumption schemes.

But hey, more fabled past. US citizens have never enough of that one.

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 16:59 | 2277788 Cathartes Aura
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this is not 100% true, as any student of history must admit:

You don't vote yourself freedom, folks. You always had. You only ever vote to assign someone to take it away.

unless you are talking about some "inner personal awareness" of "freedom" - but state-wise, some actually had to put up a long struggle to gain the "freedom" accorded to others from birth.

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 11:00 | 2276620 Dr. Engali
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Friggen tea party sold it's soul and is backing Mitt.

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 11:19 | 2276676 Doubleguns
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Only the fake ones.

 

And to them I would say:

“Contemplate the mangled bodies of your countrymen, and then say 'what should be the reward of such sacrifices?' Bid us and our posterity bow the knee, supplicate the friendship and plough, and sow, and reap, to glut the avarice of the men who have let loose on us the dogs of war to riot in our blood and hunt us from the face of the earth? If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animated contest of freedom, go from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen!”

 

Samuel Adams

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 11:45 | 2276774 DaveyJones
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every party is "fake" now, they're just whores. The corporate pimps run the show

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 11:45 | 2276768 10mm
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Tea Party was a fraud right out of the gate.Just ck how they been voting in House.

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 11:51 | 2276798 Chump
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Mega plusses.  I talked to my dad (staunch Republican) about that very issue and railed at those Tea Party asshats for voting to raise the debt ceiling, extend the tax cuts, proposing spending bills that cut whopping single digit billions from a 3+ trillion dollar budget.  He basically said that you have go along in the beginning to get things done in the end, which is, of course, the very opposite of why the Tea Partiers were elected in the first place.

Fuck.them.all.  Voting for a Republican or a Democrat - or even voting at this point - is giving your sanction to the evil being visited upon us.  No more.

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 11:05 | 2276637 BurnCycle
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"What slave overlords should we have whip, chain, and turn us into cattle"?

" I think we should all be enslaved to eachother, but choose a poterchild that we can all blame when our collective stupidity implodes..."

 

 

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 11:07 | 2276648 Matte_Black
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One wonders how things would differ had McCain/Palin been elected. Our whole process of governance has become a clown show, a deadly serious fucking clown show.

What choices are there really, when every choice one might make leads to a catastrophic reality?

I may just go ahead and sweeten this coffee a little early today. What the hell.

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 11:12 | 2276668 Steve in Greensboro
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The author reveals that he is deeply confused when he writes that the "...Federal Reserve [is] (a privately controlled banking cartel)..."

The Federal Reserve was created by an act of Congress.  The Fed's chairman is appointed by the President and confirmed by Congress.  It is directly controlled by and is a de facto a branch of the U.S. Federal Government.  As an instrument of the U.S. Federal Government it is a tool of the Ruling Class. 

The Fed chairman gets some input from private bankers, but the idea that he does anything other than what his masters in the Ruling Class, particularly the current President, tell him to do is completely insane.

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 12:22 | 2276904 CH1
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Who owns the shares, dude?

Oh, yeah... the Fed has shareholders. Look at the founding docs.

Now, can you tell me who the shareholders are?

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 11:19 | 2276685 QuietCorday
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I've always found a real disconnect with this question. So many people do not seem to see that government is other people, and, as such, governmental power over your life is other people, whom you may not even know or like, having power over very personal and intimate aspects of your personal existence on this earth. 

I have always support for state expansion and control very odd in this regard. I mean who, really, is okay with their neighbour, their parents, their siblings, some random bloke down the street, dictating what is what in their lives? But put a rosette on them and print a ballot with their name on and suddenly everyone is okay with some stranger not only telling them they can't drink this and they can't plant that, but also nicking vast amounts of their money to stuff in dodgy pockets.

Very weird.

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 11:38 | 2276750 MachoMan
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You've hit the nail on the head.  This is why EVERYONE is ultimately a conservative...  the rudimentary human feeling that we do not like someone else to dictate our lives.  That's not to say that we don't choose to sacrifice some autonomy for other things (often illusory), but at the end of the day, we still feel as though we should be able to call our own shots.  This is ultimately why revolution is always only a spark away...  and why police states never succeed.

Huxley predicted our next crisis...  which will be the state that caters to our desires, e.g. drugs, sex, etc., in an alternative method of control.  We have a hybrid at the moment (for example, contrast the TSA with the prescription drug epidemic), but it will eventually give way to one or the other proper, presuming the state even survives.  I strongly suspect we will attempt to devolve into an even more entrenched police state, given induction and familiarity and what not.  Ultimately, the state of "excess happiness" is also subject to the same resource constraints (free lunch) as all others...  it remains to be seen if this type of state can be implemented in any sustainable way.  (we've sucked shit through a straw at everything else).

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 11:24 | 2276697 GMadScientist
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"agreeing to abide by common rules and accept corresponding duties to protect themselves and one another from harm"

"a pledge of reciprocal benefit, to prevent one man from harming or being harmed by another"

Hmmm...I sense a theme.

From Epicurus to Locke, the role of government remains the same.

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 11:26 | 2276710 jfolta
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These are very smart people and they have a better idea of how things will play out than we do.  If you were in their position and knew the collapse of the dollar was inevitable aren't these precisely the steps you would take to maintain the safety, security and prosperity of yourself & your loved ones?  All "for the common good", of course, when we may have terrorists among us.

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 11:38 | 2276749 Odin
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All Americans have to do is STOP participating enmasse. The machine requires your participation. Sounds hard? Here's the first step, remove all of your money from the Big Bank you currently hold it in, use half of your savings to buy physical gold and silver, and deposit the other half in a local community bank. The oligarch’s primary source of power has always been their monopoly on our system of currency. Hit them at the source.

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 11:53 | 2276805 Vince Clortho
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The inevitable solution to Government morphing into Despotism is Chaos.

As several have posted, there are too many factions among the people to unite under a single banner.  In fact, our over-lords have been using "Divide and Conquer" as a technique to isolate the population into factions for a long, long time.

What they will not recognize, and cannot control is the tipping point.  (often referred to on the zh forum as the "SHTF" moment).

The tipping point is not an intellectually agreed upon trigger by scholars with letters after their name.  It is triggered by emotional rage, buried feelings welling up from deep within the animal nature of man.

Chaos follows.  And this is the part that the kleptocrats should rightly be having nightmares about.

It is after the chaos erupts that we all hope new and fair leadership will emerge to help create a better way for everyone to live together.

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 12:02 | 2276839 stiler
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the goal of government is good, but it can't produce good. It can only legislate. The good must come from the human heart, but if it's wicked, what then? Then we need gov't, with some exceptions. Those who have taken up God's calling of salvation thru the Son of God. If the Son shall make you free then you shall be free indeed.

Gov't can be traced back to Noah. In the historical annals it says that:

:6 Whoso sheddeth man's blood, by man shall his blood be shed: for in the image of God made He man. Be fruitful and multiply; bring forth abundantly in the earth and multiply therein.

This covenant is still active (although man is currently breaking it). If we went to ZeroGovt wouldn't we go back to prior to the Flood, which you may read of at your leisure? Something horrible to think about.

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 12:53 | 2276992 blunderdog
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  If we went to ZeroGovt wouldn't we go back to prior to the Flood, which you may read of at your leisure?

Well, maybe sure there'd be a few difficulties, but wouldn't it be cool to live hundreds of years?

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 12:06 | 2276853 XitSam
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When someone says to you, "If you haven't done anything wrong, what do you have to hide?"  You say, "Give me your wallet, I want to look at everything in it. After all, if you haven't done anything wrong, what do you have to hide?"

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 12:10 | 2276866 gnomon
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It is out of our hands individually, except in this respect.  If every man and woman would resolve to die Free when their personal Rubicon is crossed, whether it be a kicked-in door or confiscated food stores, then that would make the process of total assimilation much more difficult.

"Give me Liberty or Give me Death".  Patrick Henry was not a terrorist.  He was a Patriot and a Founding Father.  And he wrote his name ever-large so as to leave no doubt as to who to come after.  

I seek the same.  And I would be honored to die FREE.  Come and get it!

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 14:09 | 2277242 Money 4 Nothing
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I am a direct blood decendant of Patrick Henry, His mothers family picture with "mama" Henry has always been on my office wall.

"Sons of The American Revolution"

If you are a direct blood decendant of a Patriot, I suggest you become accounted for by this link: http://www.sar.org/Membership

Society of the Cincinnati, Established by George Washington.

http://societyofthecincinnati.org/

Belive it or not, My family members in the Society of Cincinnati tried to Crown George Washington King, but everyone agreed they wanted a Republic instead. Read into the Society, great story. I have big shoes to fit.

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 12:43 | 2276901 HAhyperion
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The Sacred and The Profane - Rousseau's Social Contract

 

I would argue today is the second dark ages, the brutality not at the end of a physical sword/spear but an economic and political disenfranchising: where there is immunity and impunity for the "select few" (plutocracy - the current kings and queens) and harsh cruelty and suffering for the majority or marginalized: 

America

• War on Drugs - 30% black males imprisoned (applies to America and other countries fueling privatized prison establishment)  

• Foreclosed homeowners, homeless families,  

• Wiped out 401 (k)'s and home values - combined the two largest transfers of wealth in human history from the many to the few 

• Spending/Austerity at the micro (individual companies) macro (the state, local and federal governments) resulting in historic unemployed figures (the Southern EU countries have as high or higher unemployment as the Great Depression) 

1 in 3 at or near the poverty line

1 in 4 children not "food insecure" HUNGRY

Globally 

• 1B young men in search of work (a rceipe for civil unrest/political instability 

• 2B in search of food and clean water, limited education/healthcare/shelter 

While the significantly more guilty bankers, given an implicit fiduciary responsibility and financial sophistication, not only "walk" free but are given additional boat loads of cash to wildly spin that roulette wheel.  

All the great thinkers, from Aristotle to Hobbes to Rousseau, expressed a similar notion of the sacred and profane and that societies have to structure themselves at the individual (primarily through culture) and the collective (laws/government) to modulate these two tensions/polemics.  Aristotle more at the micro: One must have civic duty to each other or there are no individual civic rights.  Rousseau's Social Contract, that the sovereignty only has legitimacy if its laws are based on the general will (or desires of the majority) and it meets the reasonable demands of its people.  The below are relevant today: 

 

Man is born free, and everywhere he is in chains

The Sovereign, having no force other than the legislative power, acts only by means of the laws; and the laws being solely the authentic acts of the general will, the Sovereign cannot act save when the people is assembled.

Every law the people have not ratified in person is null and void — is, in fact, not a law.

The legislative power belongs to the people, and can belong to it alone.


All social contracts are now void; other than those of the select few the politicians are beholding to globally.  We know governments around the world are not passing legislation in accordance with the general will or common good,  They do the opposite as evidenced by not only public opinion pools but the toll of human suffering.  

 

The banks do not lend, except to each other.  The corporation does not provide profitability to its shareholders and a living wage to its employees (key stakeholders) other than to the select elite.  Moreover, it does not embrace a going concern concept of continued economic viability (leveraged buy outs, "private equity investment" = public debt extraction.) The schools do not teach at the elementary (chaos) and secondary level where research has usurped educating.  The church protects its priests and bishops, not its flock, its children.  The food does not nourish or sustain but poisons (Monsanto, Conagra) And then when sick, the same industry gives essentially ineffective non-cures that keep viability both of the patient and their annuity stream.  The hospital and doctor does not heal, but placates the patient while extracting their pound of flesh.  

 

One asks: Who did it get this way?  Is the collective reflecting the individual, or visa verse?  How out of balance is the sacred and the profane? 

 

It starts with the most basic fundamentals: relationships - how we relate to ourselves, to each other, the earth which sustains us (or not, given our blantant disregard for its as well as our own well being).  And then responsibilty: individually and in the collective.  

 

The rush to "Global One" was designed this way, I believe, because as you state Tyler, we are not taking ownership.  America, like Rip Van Winkle, has been asleep for a long time.  And, in a similar fashion the EU, where unelected bankers take charge of the government.  Other places around thee globe are easy to delude given the lack of education and many poor (economically and therefore politically disenfranchised).  

 

Before the world rushed to global finance and intgrated supply chains, energy, etc.   There needed to be fundamental agreement on a set of core values.  Food, shelter, water, access to education and healthcare, energy - the foundation.  From there, the next layer, uniform accounting standards, similar exchange/trading rules, normalized taxing structures at least at the multinational coporate level, comparable wage and work rules, and ultimatley consistent laws especially in the areas of human rights and pollution legislation.  

 

Instead, the globally owned politicians actually weakened regulation; making this Global One ripe for rape and pillage.  Expoilting cheap labor, dumping toxins in our collective air, water, and soil.  Circumventing taxes, and skirting any sense of "community" norms and standards. 

 

We sit back in wonder that the house will now collapse? Our architectural drawings were deficient: not only errors but major omissions.  Our blue prints equally flawed.  The layer of work rules, etc the insufficient "re bar" in the foundation, the lack of adequate or weak support trusses and beams.  So the cement is cracked, the base structure is leaking, the roof sags, the walls bow.  And ultimatley, IT all caves in, crashing to the ground. 

 

We have examples all around: The Unicode which "moves" it all around in the endless shell game, still has not properly mapped the Asian languages.  The euro comes into existence without a common Treasury or funding mechanism (bond issuance) or normalized taxing structure.  

 

And here at home, we are talking about birth control, same sex marriage, abortion, immigration, pornography.  The same distraction and deflection issues for 30-40 years because they inflame the passions.   Meanwhile, the CBO whistleblower you reported on, the MBS/MERS manure - well does that hit the evening news? Or the pulling off the H4's central liquidity swaps disclosures?  Where's this story?  Only here and other similar blogs.  We need a moritorium at least for 10 years on the more social issues to get our economic and political backyard cleaned up. 

 

As Martin Luther King cautioned after Civil Rights legislation passed (paraphrasing) "its great to be able to sit at the lunch counter, but is hollow if you can not afford to buy a sandwich." 

 

Worse, yet the Defense Authorization Act (DAA) passes suspending habeas corpus.  Doesn't that say it all? The Anti-OWS bill passes 388 to 3.  The renewed Patroit Act, the proliferation of detention centers and prisions across the world to house all the climate and economic refugees.  Our very being is not secure. 

 

Is it any wonder, the Treyvon Martin tradegy?  He was just "being," his crime being black.  His name and story need to be kept alive until the perpetrators are brought to justice.  Our we suprised the DAA in the macro as reflected in the Treyvon Martin micro.  

 

I find myself at a loss so often these days and apologize for the length of this "rant."  I do not profess to have the solutions but will offer the following.  

 

Perhaps we need to re invest in our relationships.  First to ourselves, understanding our own strengths and short comings.  And then to the broader community.  As the Buddhist say, "first do no harm (to thyself, and others) and if you have inner strength, try to do some good."  Perhaps we should all have mirrors affix to our foreheads reminding us to start with ourselves.  

 

And then once we have addressed at the micor level or own "sacred and profane" we need to aggregate it to the collective. 

 

And rather than a sea saw and attempts to bring equilibrium, I would argue from a holistic, systemic point of view, we need to weave a tapestry of the individual and collective, recognizing the sacred and profane, the meaning and the meaningless.  A tapestry that blends relationships and responsibility.  
In a post concerning economics I wrote our global financial problems and lack of solutions stem from our political leaders who are linear thinkers: we need them to think in Venn diagrams.  
Relationships and responsibility are at the root of the more deeply pressing issues: cultural, social, human to human issues.  We are, like the Middle Ages, in a period of egregious Profanity.  In a similar fashion, these needs require us to put down the camera, photography, and to move to the hologram.   

 

 

THANK YOU TYLER and others here for your GOOD works and spirit of COMMUNITY


 

 


 

 

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 12:46 | 2276968 HAhyperion
HAhyperion's picture


The Sacred and The Profane - Rousseau's Social Contract

 

I would argue today is the second dark ages, the brutality not at the end of a physical sword/spear but an economic and political disenfranchising: where there is immunity and impunity for the "select few" (plutocracy - the current kings and queens) and harsh cruelty and suffering for the majority or marginalized: 

America

• War on Drugs - 30% black males imprisoned (applies to America and other countries fueling privatized prison establishment)  

• Foreclosed homeowners, homeless families,  

• Wiped out 401 (k)'s and home values - combined the two largest transfers of wealth in human history from the many to the few 

• Spending/Austerity at the micro (individual companies) macro (the state, local and federal governments) resulting in historic unemployed figures (the Southern EU countries have as high or higher unemployment as the Great Depression) 

  1 in 3 at or near the poverty line

  1 in 4 children not "food insecure" HUNGRY

Globally 

• 1B young men in search of work (a rceipe for civil unrest/political instability 

• 2B in search of food and clean water, limited education/healthcare/shelter 

While the significantly more guilty bankers, given an implicit fiduciary responsibility and financial sophistication, not only "walk" free but are given additional boat loads of cash to wildly spin that roulette wheel.  

All the great thinkers, from Aristotle to Hobbes to Rousseau, expressed a similar notion of the sacred and profane and that societies have to structure themselves at the individual (primarily through culture) and the collective (laws/government) to modulate these two tensions/polemics.  Aristotle more at the micro: One must have civic duty to each other or there are no individual civic rights.  Rousseau's Social Contract, that the sovereignty only has legitimacy if its laws are based on the general will (or desires of the majority) and it meets the reasonable demands of its people.  The below are relevant today: 

 

  Man is born free, and everywhere he is in chains

 The Sovereign, having no force other than the legislative power, acts only by means of the laws; and the laws being solely the authentic acts of the general will, the Sovereign cannot act save when the people is assembled.

 Every law the people have not ratified in person is null and void — is, in fact, not a law.

 The legislative power belongs to the people, and can belong to it alone.


All social contracts are now void; other than those of the select few the politicians are beholding to globally.  We know governments around the world are not passing legislation in accordance with the general will or common good,  They do the opposite as evidenced by not only public opinion pools but the toll of human suffering.  

 

The banks do not lend, except to each other.  The corporation does not provide profitability to its shareholders and a living wage to its employees (key stakeholders) other than to the select elite.  Moreover, it does not embrace a going concern concept of continued economic viability (leveraged buy outs, "private equity investment" = public debt extraction.) The schools do not teach at the elementary (chaos) and secondary level where research has usurped educating.  The church protects its priests and bishops, not its flock, its children.  The food does not nourish or sustain but poisons (Monsanto, Conagra) And then when sick, the same industry gives essentially ineffective non-cures that keep viability both of the patient and their annuity stream.  The hospital and doctor does not heal, but placates the patient while extracting their pound of flesh.  

 

One asks: Who did it get this way?  Is the collective reflecting the individual, or visa verse?  How out of balance is the sacred and the profane? 

 

It starts with the most basic fundamentals: relationships - how we relate to ourselves, to each other, the earth which sustains us (or not, given our blantant disregard for its as well as our own well being).  And then responsibilty: individually and in the collective.  

 

The rush to "Global One" was designed this way, I believe, because as you state Tyler, we are not taking ownership.  America, like Rip Van Winkle, has been asleep for a long time.  And, in a similar fashion the EU, where unelected bankers take charge of the government.  Other places around thee globe are easy to delude given the lack of education and many poor (economically and therefore politically disenfranchised).  

 

Before the world rushed to global finance and intgrated supply chains, energy, etc.   There needed to be fundamental agreement on a set of core values.  Food, shelter, water, access to education and healthcare, energy - the foundation.  From there, the next layer, uniform accounting standards, similar exchange/trading rules, normalized taxing structures at least at the multinational coporate level, comparable wage and work rules, and ultimatley consistent laws especially in the areas of human rights and pollution legislation.  

 

Instead, the globally owned politicians actually weakened regulation; making this Global One ripe for rape and pillage.  Expoilting cheap labor, dumping toxins in our collective air, water, and soil.  Circumventing taxes, and skirting any sense of "community" norms and standards. 

 

We sit back in wonder that the house will now collapse? Our architectural drawings were deficient: not only errors but major omissions.  Our blue prints equally flawed.  The layer of work rules, etc the insufficient "re bar" in the foundation, the lack of adequate or weak support trusses and beams.  So the cement is cracked, the base structure is leaking, the roof sags, the walls bow.  And ultimatley, IT all caves in, crashing to the ground. 

 

We have examples all around: The Unicode which "moves" it all around in the endless shell game, still has not properly mapped the Asian languages.  The euro comes into existence without a common Treasury or funding mechanism (bond issuance) or normalized taxing structure.  

 

And here at home, we are talking about birth control, same sex marriage, abortion, immigration, pornography.  The same distraction and deflection issues for 30-40 years because they inflame the passions.   Meanwhile, the CBO whistleblower you reported on, the MBS/MERS manure - well does that hit the evening news? Or the pulling off the H4's central liquidity swaps disclosures?  Where's this story?  Only here and other similar blogs.  We need a moritorium at least for 10 years on the more social issues to get our economic and political backyard cleaned up. 

 

As Martin Luther King cautioned after Civil Rights legislation passed (paraphrasing) "its great to be able to sit at the lunch counter, but is hollow if you can not afford to buy a sandwich." 

 

Worse, yet the Defense Authorization Act (DAA) passes suspending habeas corpus.  Doesn't that say it all? The Anti-OWS bill passes 388 to 3.  The renewed Patroit Act, the proliferation of detention centers and prisions across the world to house all the climate and economic refugees.  Our very being is not secure. 

 

Is it any wonder, the Treyvon Martin tradegy?  He was just "being," his crime being black.  His name and story need to be kept alive until the perpetrators are brought to justice.  Our we suprised the DAA in the macro as reflected in the Treyvon Martin micro.  

 

I find myself at a loss so often these days and apologize for the length of this "rant."  I do not profess to have the solutions but will offer the following.  

 

Perhaps we need to re invest in our relationships.  First to ourselves, understanding our own strengths and short comings.  And then to the broader community.  As the Buddhist say, "first do no harm (to thyself, and others) and if you have inner strength, try to do some good."  Perhaps we should all have mirrors affix to our foreheads reminding us to start with ourselves.  

 

And then once we have addressed at the micor level or own "sacred and profane" we need to aggregate it to the collective. 

 

 

And rather than a sea saw and attempts to bring equilibrium, I would argue from a holistic, systemic point of view, we need to weave a tapestry of the individual and collective, recognizing the sacred and profane, the meaning and the meaningless.  A tapestry that blends relationships and responsibility.   
In a post concerning economics I wrote our global financial problems and lack of solutions stem from our political leaders who are linear thinkers: we need them to think in Venn diagrams.   
Relationships and responsibility are at the root of the more deeply pressing issues: cultural, social, human to human issues.  We are, like the Middle Ages, in a period of egregious Profanity.  In a similar fashion, these needs require us to put down the camera, photography, and to move to the hologram.   

 

 

THANK YOU TYLER and others here for your GOOD works and spirit of COMMUNITY


Wed, 03/21/2012 - 12:56 | 2276975 NuYawkFrankie
NuYawkFrankie's picture

"Give me Liberty or Give me Death" - Then

"Gimme Freedom Fries - yep, extra-large - with that bucket of McNuggets" - Now

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 12:54 | 2277000 jjsilver
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Hale v. Henkel, 201 U.S. 43(1906)

http://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/201/43/case.html

Page 201 U. S. 74 "The individual may stand upon his constitutional rights as a citizen. He is entitled to carry on his private business in his own way. His power to contract is unlimited. He owes no duty to the State or to his neighbors to divulge his business, or to open his doors to an investigation, so far as it may tend to criminate him. He owes no such duty to the State, since he receives nothing therefrom beyond the protection of his life and property. His rights are such as existed by the law of the land long antecedent to the organization of the State, and can only be taken from him by due process of law, and in accordance with the Constitution. Among his rights are a refusal to incriminate himself and the immunity of himself and his property from arrest or seizure except under a warrant of the law. He owes nothing to the public so long as he does not trespass upon their rights."

No other Supreme Court case has ever overturned Hale v. Henkel.
None of the various issues of Hale v. Henkel have ever been overruled.

SECURITIES AND EXCHANGE COMMISSION v. CHENERY CORP., 318 U.S. 80

http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/cgi-bin/getcase.pl?court=us&vol=318&invol=80
pg 94
But if the action is based upon a determination of law as to
which the reviewing authority of the courts does come into play, an
order may not stand if the agency has misconceived the law. In either
event the orderly functioning of the process of review requires that
the grounds upon which the administrative agency acted by clearly
disclosed and adequately sustained.

We merely hold that an administrative order cannot be upheld unless the grounds upon which the agency acted in exercising its powers were those upon which its action can be sustained.

this was also cited at federal trade commision v sperry 405 us 233

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 13:53 | 2277194 AnAnonymous
AnAnonymous's picture

Among his rights are a refusal to incriminate himself

______________________________________________

One can be certain this one is going to be secured by US citizens.

With them, it is always another one.

Bernanke, "I am not involved in the inflation process"

US middle class citizen: the real estate crisis does not serve one best interests.

Financial shock is generated by Zimbabwe.

Starving people eat too much and are pressing for depletion of resources.

Kicking the can etc...

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 13:00 | 2277025 New American Re...
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Do you want a solution?   Do you want to really do something right now?   Then take a look at www.nar2012.com, take a look at the Petition and sign it, push it, it is a viable plan to empower all Americans to take back the Congress on November 6th 2012.   It is our only chance.   If we don't do something, our ass is grass.   If somebody has something better, lets go with it.   But this is the ONLY THING OUT THERE RIGHT NOW.

If you don't make the decision to free yourself, someone else will make the decision to enslave you.   Serfs Up America!

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 13:08 | 2277057 Kaiser Sousa
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FUCK THE BANKERMENT...
RESIST N ALL FORMS OR DIE A SLAVE...
FUCK U CIA, FBI, DHS, & ALL THE REST....
BITCH MOTHER FUCKERS....

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 13:14 | 2277080 Alcoholic Nativ...
Alcoholic Native American's picture

FREEEEEEEEDUMMMMMMB!!

Shut up slave.  

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 13:17 | 2277085 HAhyperion
HAhyperion's picture

SORRY Inadvertently posted twice above.  

 

 

 

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 13:16 | 2277086 Count de Money
Count de Money's picture

"Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves."

William Pitt the Younger

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 13:24 | 2277104 Angus195
Angus195's picture

They tell us what they are going to do.  The problem is noone reads books anymore.

 

"Moreover, as America becomes an increasingly multi-cultural society, it may find it more difficult to fashion a consensus on foreign policy issues, except in the circumstance of a truly massive and widely preceived direct external threat.

Zbigenw Brzenzinski (The Grand Chess Board p. 211

 

"In the technotronic society the trend would seem to be towards the aggregation of the individual support of millions of uncoordinated citizens, easily within the reach of magnetic and attractive personalities effectively exploiting the latest communications techniques to manipulate emotions and control reason.”

Zbignew Brzezinski (Between Two Ages : America’s Role in the Technotronic Era, 1970)

 

“The technotronic era involves the gradual appearance of a more controlled society. Such a society would be dominated by an elite, unrestrained by traditional values (of Liberty). Soon it will be possible to assert almost continuous surveillance over every citizen and maintain up-to-date complete files containing even the most personal information about the citizen. These files will be subject to instantaneous retrieval by the authorities.”

Zbigniew Brzezinski (Between Two Ages, 1970)

“Society dominated by an elite whose claim to political power would rest on allegedly superior scientific know-how. Unhindered by the restraints of traditional liberal values, this elite would not hesitate to achieve its political ends by using the latest modern techniques for influencing public behavior and keeping society under close surveillance and control.” Zbignew Brzezinsk

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 13:58 | 2277211 AnAnonymous
AnAnonymous's picture

The US is not becoming more culturally diverse.

Cultural uniformization is the issue here. You really need some US citizenism dose to think that the US of A is striving for diversity when this country have over the last 200 years wiped hundreds of culture.

Cultural uniformization means more and more people wishing for the same.

This does not help the depletion of resources effect that US citizens are feeling.

The national consensus is hard because US citizens are running out of Indians. Times were easy when the Indians were there, the consensus was easy to reach, go at the Indians.

Well, today, with more or more people sharing the same cultural values, that shape their longings, the lack of Indians, consensus is going to be harder to reach.

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 13:27 | 2277110 HAhyperion
HAhyperion's picture

http://rt.com/usa/news/anonymous-facebook-cbs-loic-493/

Updated Anonymous attacks On Facebook, et all working with government "tracking" selling info.  

More of the neo coporate Facism 

But to others here: "leave the country...hmmm" and go where? only a small island, IT IS EVERYWHERE!!!

GUNS AGAINST NOT ONLY AN ADVANCED MILITARY BUT SMALL TOWNS THAT HAVE LEFT OVER TANKS?  

KEPT SHOWING SYRIA - SO KNOW ONE SEES WHATS GOING ON HERE 

 

 

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 13:47 | 2277168 sasebo
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Want to understand what kind of regime we really live under? We & you are all fascists ------------------ believe it or not.

http://mises.org/daily/5963/The-Vampire-Economy-and-the-Market

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 14:08 | 2277249 VinnyTheBlade
VinnyTheBlade's picture

Get ready for another civil war in the US. I predict we are going to have a showdown between some liberty minded state, like Texas, Idaho or Montana and the Feds, leading to one of these states attempting to 'evict' the federal agencies from their borders. We will have another 'shot heard round the world' moment, and the 2nd American Revolution will have begun.

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 15:33 | 2277490 Angus195
Angus195's picture

Unfortunately, I believe your right, as does a certain Russian Professor (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123051100709638419.html).  However, I think this is EXACTLY what the 'powers-that-be' (hereafter PTB) want.  The PTB do desire the US population to divide up into factions and essentially destroy one another - so they don't have to.  We are essentially about to do their 'dirty work' for them.  The 'patriot movement,' the Tea Partiers', the 9-11 Truthers', the Birthers' the Constitutionalists, the OWS Movement, it goes on and on, are groups that are ingenuously being 'cultivated' to start a war from 'within.'

The problem with these various patriot movements is that they do not essentially agree with one another on various key issues and thus they are poised to fight in and among themselves.  The OWS Movement doesn't have the slightest clue what it is protesting.  As a result the US population is being systematically 'cultured' into a pending revolt which will quickly descend into chaos -- and it is from this point that the PTB will step in and pick up the pieces. 

The 'patriot movement' is a creature designed and grown by the very parties in control.  We are being scammed - once again - and unless we 'patriots' put aside our own petty differences, we are going to loose this 'game.'  Because a 'game' is what it is.

 

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 17:20 | 2277852 Cathartes Aura
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I'll believe such states as Texas are "liberty minded" when politicians like Kay Bailey Hutchinson stop being elected - she of the repeated proposed "weather modification bills" for "controlling the weather":

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/109/s517

or Rick "mandatory vaccines for school girls" Perry.

or other "constitutional amendment" proponents of control over humans being.

 

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 14:32 | 2277320 Manthong
Manthong's picture

Was für ein Glück für die Regierenden, dass die Menschen nicht denken.

http://de.wikiquote.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 15:35 | 2277349 Money 4 Nothing
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Guess what was forward to me? Soo, were labled "Birthers" Huh?. Libtards did your Country a disservice by playing along with the farce that Obama was born on American soil. You, supporters never bothered to exersize due dillegence and now this fraud is exposed.

This one doesen't just go away that easy anymore. All the fake "Certificate of live Birth" which means jack shit to begin with all came out of the White House, this is the fist one I have seen from Africa and it's an AP.

I sent a Copy of this to my Con-gressman and sent a copy into the White House and the DOJ. Hope they read it and enjoy the nasty gram along with the pasted story and link..

 

http://africanpress.me/2012/03/09/president-obama-will-be-forced-by-circumstances-to-apologise-genuine-birth-certificate-surfaces-americans-have-been-led-to-believe-otherwise-revelation-to-change-the-political-landscape/

 

This is why Con-gress started Impeachment procedures, this is why Obama signed that EO into law afterwards to port end their efforts!!

He, Obama is subsequentially holding the USA hostage to any further Impeachment hearings with that EO as his leverage.

Obama put on notice: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXyqCuoRvaE&feature=related

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 17:23 | 2277866 Cathartes Aura
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if all that you say is completely true as you relate it, I'm sure the military will sort things out, right? 

then everything will fall into place again.

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 14:43 | 2277354 Zola
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Zhers may enjoy this video about an alien visiting Earth and enquiring about government

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUS1m5MSt9k&context=C46a33c7ADvjVQa1PpcFOjgwTwFXPRufJ-5nO2FflniQbJvNF7L80=

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 15:23 | 2277471 hooligan2009
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So what's the solution? Start a poltical party that simply abolishes every government department with an alternative administrative system? Pardon me while I get very excited. dismantle every Government agency!

We could start a task group of a few thousand with a two year contract to abolish all pork barrel amendements and legislation that feeds the federal sector and provides no money contribution (all cost centres!) and so release people's taxes back to the people?

My god! What could we call such a political party?

It would have to be able to defend itself. After all, right now there is one person employed by the Federal system to govern four of us (20% of all employees are government workers in one form or another at federal, state, county or city level).

Hmmm..I like this thinking, more and more. How about to start with, no vote (or say in drafting legislation) if you work for the currently work for any form of government and no vote if you don't pay 20% of your income in taxes! Hell, hang on, this would reduce spending by more than 30%, without affecting benefits being paid in any form! I mean government workers get paid 10% more than the average private sector worker?

This is too good to be true. We won't be able to do it, because 1 in 5 workers in the economy is a government worker. They will be able to scare another 25% who are relaint on state benefits to live. So straight away the new party is a minority.

NO REPRESENTATION WITHOUT TAXATION! One slogan that would be needed.

So, how do you move from the current shit hole to the garden of eden with, say, only one servant for twenty people (instead of one servant for five people) in the bottom 99% of the electorate (and 99 servants for each one of the top 1%) to handle the incredibly tedious and boring tax paperwork and other administrative boring crap? 

My name for such a new party? How about "Eden"?

 

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 16:31 | 2277693 Clashfan
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Oh, oh, oh, have we done something wrong?

Oh, oh, oh, complete control, even over this song.

 

They said to make a lot of money

and worry about it later.

 

This is Joe Public speaking!

I'm controlled in the body and controlled in the mind.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHtTkKNAbWQ

http://www.sing365.com/music/Lyric.nsf/Complete-Control-lyrics-The-Clash...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8daHnWgFTzs

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 16:58 | 2277782 honestann
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Q:  What power should government have over your life?

A:  None.  So-called "government" is pure fiction.  It does not exist.  So the question should be "how much power should nothing have over your life?".  What a stupid question.

So, what does screw up the life of everyone?  Simple answer:

predators DBA government

The predators do indeed exist.  Any further analysis is simply self-deception.

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 17:25 | 2277877 Cathartes Aura
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and yet you advocate voting for govern-ment?

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 07:46 | 2290281 honestann
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I HAVE NEVER VOTED... NOT EVEN ONCE.

If you refer to the icon, that simply states my preference IF the pretence must continue.  So, if anyone is foolish enough to vote at all, they should at least vote for the least destructive option.  But yes, I would never vote even for a certified saint to perform any role in any known-destructive organization, the worst being government.

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 21:44 | 2278707 Westcoastliberal
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Just watched a hearing over on Raw Story where a congressman was grilling a general about the new super-spy center being constructed in Utah. http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/03/21/nsa-chief-denies-allegations-of-bi...

General was asked whether the NSA spys on communications in the U.S. and as you might expect he was lying his ass off.  I wish the congressman had asked him, "then if that's true, how did the NSA intercept the call between Spc Millay in AK and his parents in KY when he allegedly told them shit was coming down and to get ready.  Of course now he's in prison awaiting trail on disclosing "non-classified" government secrets. http://www.jber.af.mil/news/story.asp?id=123279102

Far as I'm concerned, the general has a lot of 'spainin' to do!

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