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Guest Post: The Yemen Underwear Bomb and Other Hobgoblins

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Submitted by James E. Miller of the Ludwig von Mises Institute of Canada,

Today it was widely reported that the CIA thwarted a “plot by al Qaeda’s affiliate in Yemen to destroy a U.S.-bound airliner using a bomb.”  This bomb, which was to be concealed in a pair of underwear, was designed as an improvement over what Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab attempted to use to blow up an airliner over Detroit on Christmas Day of 2009.  This bomb was upgraded and designed to specifically avoid metal detectors.

At first glance it would appear to be a job well done by the world’s leading domestic affairs meddlers.

But like all of these instances, it was routinely denied “there was ever any immediate threat to the public.”  It was also revealed that:

The bomb plot had allegedly advanced to the point that a would-be suicide bomber was told to buy a ticket on the airliner of his choosing and decide the timing of the attack. It’s not immediately clear what happened to the would-be bomber.

It would seem that what the CIA recovered was essentially just a crudely made bomb.  The supposed bomber was nowhere to be found. There is no evidence presented as to a real threat or plan to use it.

The truth was finally revealed as the would-be bomber was, in fact, a double agent of the CIA.

When considering the nature of the state, this new instance of government supported terrorism is unsurprisingly comparable to previous cases.

Looking back at the original underwear bomber Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab, the mainstream narrative nowhere matches the disturbing details.  Not only was Abdulmutallab’s explosive device determined not to be functional but, according to undersecretary for management at the State Department Patrick Kennedy, his visa wasn’t confiscated and he was given access to the airplane for the purposes of conducting further investigation.  This came at the request of federal counterterrorism officials.

As former Assistant Secretary to the U.S. Treasury and acclaimed commentator Paul Craig Roberts documents in regards to attempted terrorist attacks since September 11, 2001:

If we look around for the terror that the police state and a decade of war has allegedly protected us from, the terror is hard to find. Except for 9/11 itself, assuming we accept the government’s improbable conspiracy theory explanation, there have been no terror attacks on the US. Indeed, as RT pointed out on August 23, 2011, an investigative program at the University of California discovered that the domestic “terror plots” hyped in the media were plotted by FBI agents.


For example, the Washington DC Metro bombing plot, the New York city subway plot, the plot to blow up the Sears Tower in Chicago were all FBI brainchilds organized and managed by FBI agents.


RT reports that only three plots might have been independent of the FBI, but as none of the three worked they obviously were not the work of such a professional terror organization as Al Qaeda is purported to be. The Times Square car bomb didn’t blow up, and apparently could not have.


Think now about the airliner shoe-bomb plot, the shampoo-bottled water plot, and the underwear-bomb plot. Experts, other than the whores hired by the US government, say that these plots are nonsensical. The “shoe bomb” and “underwear bomb” were colored fireworks powders incapable of blowing up a tin can. The liquid bomb, allegedly mixed up in an airliner toilet room, has been dismissed by experts as fantasy.

Just this past May Day, the FBI reportedly foiled an attempted bombing of a bridge near Cleveland.  But like many instances of domestic terrorism, this operation was aided and facilitated by the FBI itself.  On cue, authorities assured the public it “was never in any danger.”

Far from having their liberty secured, the American public is being lulled into a sense of infant dependency from engineered threats from abroad and at home.

The art of governing can be broken down into two easy steps: scare the citizenry into capitulation with manufactured threats and legislate yourself increasing amounts of power.

With the illusion of monsters from foreign countries breathing down their necks, those infatuated with “national defense” as some unworldly savior are more than willing to bow down and submit themselves to having their privacy torn to shreds for the feeling of security.  They are no better than children who wrap themselves in a blanket for fear of an unknown boogeyman.  The corporate media, never letting an opportunity of state worship go to waste, vets out the reports of threats with little if any vigor.  The Associated Press actually found out about the newly “foiled” underwear bomb threat last week but submitted to White House demands to hold off on reporting the story.  After all, there is too much money at stake to not buddy up with Washington and keep a frightened populace spoon-fed with false delusions.

The danger in such juvenile acceptance of war propaganda is the creeping hand of despotism that must emerge.  For if the public is lead to believe danger lurks in every shadow of the world, it will demand greater and greater protection from exactly those who salivate at the chance to provide it.  From the Patriot Act to the National Defense Authorization Act, private correspondence and due process have been casually tossed aside for the promise of safety.  This vicious cycle is reinforced by contrived instances of impending doom.  The ruling class creates them and then feeds off the panic.

Even Bush administration spokesman Ari Fleischer admitted that “fake” terror alerts were used in 2002 to quell growing criticism amongst the public and particular Congressmen.

The famous Randolph Bourne quote “war is the health of the state” is often invoked as a simple dictum to demonstrate the irrefutable connection between government usurpations of authority and organized combat on a massive, industrialized scale.  Almost any respectable writer, historian, or economist will cite the phrase when addressing the topic of warfare.  That’s because in just seven plain words the mentality and violent temperament of those who sit at the state’s controls are defined so explicitly, it completely disrobes the glory and prestige too often associated with bloodthirsty crusades of patriotism.

Murray Rothbard recognized the underlying immorality of the government’s war machine complex when he wrote:

It is in war that the State really comes into its own: swelling in power, in number, in pride, in absolute domination over the economy and the society.  Society becomes a herd, seeking to kill its alleged enemies, rooting out and suppressing all dissent from the official war effort, happily betraying truth for the supposed public interest.  Society becomes an armed camp, with the values and the morale—as Albert Jay Nock once phrased it—of an “army on the march.”

The alleged Yemen “underwear” bomber was just another fabricated spook in the long line of mounting justifications to keep the war on terror and its profiteers going; no matter the cost.  As long as the American people are still easily whipped into a frenzy over forged menaces from afar, their blood and treasure will go on to be squandered on military boondoggles and redundant intelligence agencies.  War and fear end up becoming a way of life.  And so does the state’s command over what could be a life of peace and tranquility for the nation it supposedly protects.

This isn’t conspiracy theory; just a recognition of the various hobgoblins, as H.L. Mencken described them, invented to justify encroaching totalitarianism.

James E. Miller holds a BS in public administration with a minor in business from Shippensburg University, PA. He is the chief blogger at the Ludwig von Mises Institute of Canada and a current contributor to his hometown newspaper, the Middletown Press and Journal.


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Tue, 05/08/2012 - 21:48 | 2408754 midgetrannyporn
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I'm hoping to get groped someday. :sigh:

Tue, 05/08/2012 - 21:58 | 2408767 Dr Benway
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What an absolutely disgraceful article. That this is allowed on ZH is a joke.


The undercover agent managed to infiltrate the terror group, steal their new explosive device, and reveal the plotters. How the author through lies and distortion manages to twist this into a negative is a mystery.

Tue, 05/08/2012 - 22:01 | 2408770 mcguire
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9/11 was an inside job

Tue, 05/08/2012 - 22:03 | 2408774 THX 1178
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Tue, 05/08/2012 - 22:05 | 2408777 Manthong
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It would have been an even more uncivilized and  barbaric thing if they had sewn some gold into the scivvies.

Tue, 05/08/2012 - 22:15 | 2408781 Dr Benway
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Great. I can choose between the Ponzi Kings and the Conspiracy Loons.


I am soo screwed



"He also handed over the bomb, designed by the group’s top explosives expert to be undetectable at airport security checks, to the F.B.I."

If this is a bad thing, by all means ding me you sheep


Tue, 05/08/2012 - 22:20 | 2408799 lunaticfringe
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Hey Doc, there are some people who think a lot like you over at Huffpo. Subscriptions are free.

Tue, 05/08/2012 - 22:23 | 2408808 LetThemEatRand
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And Drudge, Fox, etc.  

Wed, 05/09/2012 - 01:19 | 2409140 Oh regional Indian
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He's a trolllll, burn himmmmmm....but seriously. 

Butt, Butt, butt. Butt your honour, he had soomething protuding from the front mid-section, errrrr, lower, upper front you know, half-way up and ohhhhh... errrr.... of his body.

Butt, your honour, her behind was all swollen like a water-melon, veryyyy verrrrrrry bomby. In fact, she WAZ DA BOMB.... I felt like exploding seeing her your honour, that is dangerous, no? 

Butt, your honour, I saw the pin for the grenade she was packing inside her womb-bomb hanging out, ready to be pulled....detonation, devastation...

Butt, butt your honour, I was merely employing the squeeze test to ensure there was no false inflation of assets....

What ajoke. And that they have to trot out trolls to butt-er-ass the stroies too....



Wed, 05/09/2012 - 01:23 | 2409145 CIABS
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Hey, let's all argue with Dr. Benway!  He plays dumb pretty well, must say...

Wed, 05/09/2012 - 02:18 | 2409178 Dr Benway
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You can insult me all you want, but this operation is exactly how the US should proceed going forward, instead of thousands of troops on the ground forever.


Focus on building effective intelligence, use informants and infiltrators effectively, then destroy the terrorists with drone strikes or such.


This operation managed to disrupt a dangerous terrorist cell, acquire the new explosive device made by their expert bombmaker, and kill high-ranking Fahd Mohammed Ahmed al-Quso. Total fucking win.


Yes the Gov/CIA/FBI/NSA/TSA are shit, but this is the wrong thing to attack them on. Attack them on the encroachment of civil liberties in America. Criticize the ridiculous TSA policies. Stop the fucking drug war. But keep killing the terrorists.

Wed, 05/09/2012 - 06:34 | 2409371 Benjamin Glutton
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Dr. Benway.

Are you unaware that al Qaeda fought on our side in Libya and now Syria?

1 underwear bomb every couple of years enable a worldwide security effort totaling 150 Billion of deficit funding per year. With that kind of funding at stake the threat MUST be made real.

Total fucking loss.


Wed, 05/09/2012 - 09:33 | 2409654 prole
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There was a slight mistake with the introductory sentence on today's report:

Today it was widely reported that the CIA concocted a “plot by al CIAda’s affiliate in Yemen to justify more x-ray machines and molesting children and grandmothers by placing another simulated baking powder bomb onboard a U.S.-bound airliner.”

Sheople rush to your standard!

Wed, 05/09/2012 - 14:59 | 2410873 zenbones
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This is how it went down.  Contrary to what you would think, the left hand of the CIA doesn't really know what the right hand was doing.  The left hand is trying to combat Al-Qaeda.  What the left hand doesn't realize is that Al-Qaeda is merely an extension of the right hand of the CIA.  Kind of like an extra pinky!

Wed, 05/09/2012 - 10:43 | 2409914 DaveyJones
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there is a difference between criticism and insult. 

Tue, 05/08/2012 - 22:24 | 2408809 Dr Benway
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Oh so if I don't agree with the herd here on everything, I should leave huh? Fuck you.


This was one of the few times when the CIA/FBI got things right.


Would you really have preferred for this new potentially undetectable bomb to not to have been intercepted? 

Tue, 05/08/2012 - 22:25 | 2408813 lunaticfringe
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I don't dial 911. Savvy?

Tue, 05/08/2012 - 23:02 | 2408915 chipshot
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@lun fri

...Capish you mook?


fixed it for you

Wed, 05/09/2012 - 00:11 | 2409055 The Big Ching-aso
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What's the BFD?   When I was a teenager I used to explode in my underwear all the time.

Wed, 05/09/2012 - 01:18 | 2409139 WaterWings
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Gother of Mod!

A teenager with inexplicable...arousals...explain!!1

Wed, 05/09/2012 - 02:51 | 2409207 Tom Terrific
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Pic or it didn't happen

Tue, 05/08/2012 - 22:31 | 2408823 Global Hunter
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pure theatre nothing else IMO

Tue, 05/08/2012 - 22:44 | 2408868 AlaricBalth
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"This was one of the few times when the CIA/FBI got things right."

And you know this definitively heard it from the MSM? Unless you were there as an eyewitness or you have clearance to read the classified incident report, you cannot be totally certain.

Question everything!

Tue, 05/08/2012 - 23:00 | 2408880 Dr Benway
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If you truly were to follow that maxim you wouldn't blindly believe conspiracy theories as you do.


Based on the evidence I have at hand, it seems as though they got it right. Nothing in article above suggests any evidence to the contrary.


So let me ask, what exactly is YOUR proof?

Tue, 05/08/2012 - 23:58 | 2408980 AlaricBalth
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Your assumption that I blindly believe in conspiracy theories has no basis in fact whatsoever. I never alluded to such a belief system. All I said was "question everything" after which one should draw his/her own conclusion, rather than rely on what is being "reported".

Secondly, I do not understand why you are asking me for proof of anything. The burden of proof Is always with the person making an assertion. I proposed none, you did.

Your logic is fallacious at best.

Wed, 05/09/2012 - 08:33 | 2409521 Freewheelin Franklin
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Your logic is fallacious at best.


Can it be worse than fallacious? 

Wed, 05/09/2012 - 00:23 | 2409069 DaveyJones
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You haven't done your homework. What was your doctorate in?

Wed, 05/09/2012 - 00:30 | 2409077 The Big Ching-aso
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Now that I'm a lot older, if I keep exploding like this I'm gonna need Kevlar Depends.

Wed, 05/09/2012 - 00:30 | 2409083 TheFourthStooge-ing
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You haven't done your homework. What was your doctorate in?



Wed, 05/09/2012 - 01:21 | 2409142 WaterWings
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Dewd, Dr. Phil explains all!

Tue, 05/08/2012 - 22:58 | 2408881 Dr Benway
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double post

Wed, 05/09/2012 - 00:03 | 2409046 Acorn10012
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Damn, down voting a double post? You're making friends tonight.

Wed, 05/09/2012 - 07:24 | 2409410 Metalredneck
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Your best post yet!

Wed, 05/09/2012 - 09:36 | 2409659 prole
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Technically far less stupid than all his other posts

One thing for sure though, he is either getting paid for the posts directly, or he is posting to justify his MIC (bloated) paycheck and pension.

Tue, 05/08/2012 - 22:49 | 2408879 A Nanny Moose
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Most here have been been aware of undetectable explosives for around a year or two.

Gubmint is just now waking up to the concept apparently. No surprise there.

Tue, 05/08/2012 - 23:35 | 2409005 TNTARG
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CIA/FBI "doing things right" is an oximoron.

Tue, 05/08/2012 - 23:42 | 2409014 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Dr Benway got skeered real good:

This was one of the few times when the CIA/FBI got things right.

"The truth was finally revealed as the would-be bomber was, in fact, a double agent of the CIA."

Would you really have preferred for this new potentially undetectable bomb to not to have been intercepted?

"It would seem that what the CIA recovered was essentially just a crudely made bomb."

Oh so if I don't agree with the herd here on everything, I should leave huh?

Not at all. Intelligent commentary is appreciated. Hysterical paranoia about "them there terrists" is mocked and ridiculed. Exemplary specimens of idiocy are made to perform for our amusement. The choice is yours.


Wed, 05/09/2012 - 00:34 | 2409092 Dr Benway
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1. Yes the agent was an agent. Is there something you're missing here?


2. The claim of crudeness was unsupported by links, the actual link says:


"Intelligence officials believe the explosive is the latest effort of the group’s skilled bomb maker, Ibrahim Hassan al-Asiri [...] Unlike the device used in the unsuccessful 2009 attack, this bomb could be detonated in two ways, in case one failed, the official said. The main charge was a high-grade military explosive that “undoubtedly would have brought down an aircraft,” the official said."

Wed, 05/09/2012 - 05:28 | 2409341 toothpicker
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Let's all just stop feeding the paid troll

Wed, 05/09/2012 - 00:47 | 2409109 giovanni_f
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The snipnet from the Murray Rothbard article nails it. Nothing to be added or subtracted. Dr "Dick Cheney Avatar" Benway is too stupid to be stupid. Simply ignore this bonsai-size agitator.

(Just a thought: Could it be that the purpose proper of Dr "Dick Cheney Avatar" Benway is to collect ZH user names for THE LIST? Or is it a cut-off-from-internet-porn SEC clerk gone mad?)

Wed, 05/09/2012 - 01:21 | 2409143 NumberNone
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You may be right in everything you say, but what credibility does the government have when it claims to have 'saved the day'?  Especailly when it admits to being an active part of the plot?  How do we know that they didn't help things along by providing information to the bombmaker in an effort to gain the trust of the group they wanted to infiltrate?  Fast & Furious ring a bell? 

I honestly hope you are right and the good guys really did win one and we have scared the shit out of the bad guys with our insiders.  But you can't fault the suspicious, someone needs to hold everything this fucking government does up to scrutiny. 

Wed, 05/09/2012 - 06:44 | 2409376 Benjamin Glutton
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Eventually someone will make gun cotton clothing.




I say we all fly naked.

Tue, 05/08/2012 - 22:24 | 2408800 Paul Atreides
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"The undercover agent managed to infiltrate the terror group..."

Al Qaeda was created and is controlled by the CIA, Hitlery Clinton publically admits it.

Learn all about terrorism red herrings and bullshit propaganda from the US whore media here.

Tue, 05/08/2012 - 22:27 | 2408815 Dr Benway
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You seriously think that the CIA controls AL Qaeda?


Then you should consult a mental health practitioner.



Tue, 05/08/2012 - 22:38 | 2408844 Ima anal sphincter
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Seriously. Go the fuck away.

The majority of ZH's don't fall for the government BS and haven't for a long time. You and other assorted piss-ants can try your best to slam us, but judging by the number of negative votes you're getting, you've been ratted out. If you don't like what most of the posters are saying then LEAVE.


Tue, 05/08/2012 - 22:46 | 2408870 Dr Benway
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LOL at simpletons who think being sceptical means blindly believing conspiracy theories instead. The correct response to the admittedly legion lies of the government is not to disbelieve everything.


On topic. Have you actually read the link? And after reading it, can you say it was a bad thing this plot was foiled? SERIOUSLY?

Tue, 05/08/2012 - 22:58 | 2408902 Ima anal sphincter
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Alright asshole. Let me put it to you this way.

Our government is full of traitors and murderers. They are completely in control of the bankers. That should be easy enough for you to figure out.

Until ALL those folks have been removed from this earth. The pain and murder will continue. Are you with them?????

Figure it out quickly.

Wed, 05/09/2012 - 01:16 | 2409135 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Figure it out quickly.

You've just set the bar way too high for him.


Thu, 05/10/2012 - 03:17 | 2412408 squid_pro_quo
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Dr Benway, watch The Power of Nightmares, and then get back to me.

Life on the Internets requires you to do a bit more RESEARCH - believing everything you read is no excuse.

Wed, 05/09/2012 - 03:01 | 2409227 Tom Terrific
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"Our government is full of traitors and murderers. They are completely in control of the bankers."


Should read:  Our government is full of traitors and murderers. They are completely in controled by the bankers.

Wed, 05/09/2012 - 09:52 | 2409725 Tom Terrific
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"Our government is full of traitors and murderers. They are completely in control of the bankers."


Should read:  Our government is full of traitors and murderers. They are completely in controled by the bankers.

Wed, 05/09/2012 - 10:06 | 2409768 tarsubil
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Dr GS 9 Benway paid government troller just filled out a suspicious activity report. He only needs 9 more to meet his quota. Thank God for the Feds saving us from boogeymen foreign and domestic.

Wed, 05/09/2012 - 00:01 | 2409013 Think for yourself
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Being educated does not mean being informed, it means being conditionned.

It sounds like you are "educated", identify with your positions and resist considering them carefully.

Being misinformed and sceptical are not synonymous, by the way. If you deny that Al-CIAda was created and is controlled by the western terrorism-intelligence complex, then you've got some cold war history to read up on, son. Start with that before coming here to pontificate on what you think you know.

You are misinformed. and based upon your belief system you assign a value to the alleged actions of an alleged double agent in an alleged event who nobody really knows anything about, because you trust that the Times is telling you the truth.

I am skeptical, and I have seen countless events where we are told verisimilar stories. These fake stories are threaded straight into a fictional veil that is woven right in our faces to hide real history from us. When you look closely, though, you can see through the loose weave, and you learn that it's all smoke and mirrors. The threads of the veil don't really fit together, but at least their truthiness makes you think they do.

I've learned that, and I don't automatically assign arbitrary authority to the newspapers that are integral part of the matrix architects. It's funny that you think not believing everything I hear makes me a prime mental health patient, or that it means I believe in conspiracy theories. Quite to the contrary, I don't "believe" in much per say except, maybe spiritual truths condensed out of my experience. You, on the other hand, are the one who believes in conspiracy theory - the megacorps have marinated every aspect of your life in it, and you have swallowed it hook, line and sinker.

Tue, 05/08/2012 - 23:45 | 2409016 TNTARG
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Dr., most of us don't even believe there's such a thing like "terrorism" other than State's terrorism. If they say it's raining I'll go out and walk for a while to see if I get wet.

Tue, 05/08/2012 - 23:57 | 2409034 mendigo
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It is healthy to be open to views contrary to our own - so you don't get stuck in a rut.
As you state this mission was executed lick clockwork - I find that somewhat suspicious. The problem is that there is reason to not trust our government. They have motive. But maybe it transpire exactly as nyt described.

Tue, 05/08/2012 - 22:39 | 2408851 Paul Atreides
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The identity of Al Qaeda is fully documented, including its links to US intelligence. Now FUCK OFF!

Tue, 05/08/2012 - 22:46 | 2408871 Dr Benway
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YES! It is documented that the CIA controls Al Qaeda through mindwaves!! I will now fuck off!

Tue, 05/08/2012 - 23:03 | 2408912 akak
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I will now fuck off!

Please then do so quietly, promptly, and with a minimum of mainstream koolaid-drinking, self-important drama.

Tue, 05/08/2012 - 23:49 | 2409021 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Please then do so quietly, promptly, and with a minimum of mainstream koolaid-drinking, self-important drama.

The full moon certainly brings out the drama queens.


Wed, 05/09/2012 - 01:39 | 2409159 WaterWings
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Even though my excessive # of posts should out-weigh my credibilty, I read recently, that for the psychopathic fucks out there, they should be taking full advantage of the bullion weight imbalances if they are trading with sleeple at the moment. . . gravity speaking...big moons and such.  

Consider the profits if you are moving millions...billions!!... when it comes to weighing yourself in an elevator. Trade of the moment.


Good luck, and good night to all.

No I do not agree with this trading advice and go fuck yourself and jump off a NY bridge if you are considering it.

Tue, 05/08/2012 - 23:05 | 2408930 Paul Atreides
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The creation of Al-Qaeda was facilitated by the CIA and allied intelligence networks, the purpose of which was to maintain this “database” of Mujahideen mercenaries to be used as intelligence assets to achieve US foreign policy objectives and false flag operations. These databases are held by groups like Stratford, orders come from organizations like Blackwater and supplies from Saudi Arabia, Turkey and Qatar.

Learn more about the story of one of these mercenaries exposed here.



Tue, 05/08/2012 - 22:21 | 2408801 Paul Atreides
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Tue, 05/08/2012 - 22:21 | 2408803 Jim in MN
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I think you meant "designed by Mossad, the US-Saudi agent's ally, to appear sophisticated to Western lapdog media and silly trolls."

Tue, 05/08/2012 - 22:21 | 2408805 LetThemEatRand
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Did you also hear that he was wearing gold underwear to make the boom boom undetectable?  And he had a silver hat, which was initially thought to be tinfoil, but was later identified as pure silver.  As a result, anyone traveling with gold or silver is now instantly a suspect.  Go figure.

Coincidence that Rand Paul is sponsoring a bill to rid us of the TSA?   They are glad that folks like you don't even think about that.

Tue, 05/08/2012 - 23:02 | 2408916 Oleander
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but the TSA found a GUN today in a stuffed bear. In a little boys carry on, It was at TF Green in Providence, RI.

We need them- Why can't you see that? They are all that stands bwn us and the terrorists. 




Wed, 05/09/2012 - 00:14 | 2409060 Sans-culottes
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MDB's sycophant bitch is Dr. Bengay....or you are actually a CIA "librarian" trolling on ZH and engaging in a disinformation campaign and defending the terrorist organization, the CIA by re-educating us "simpletons" with the good deeds of the cutthroats and parasites in the CIA. You must either want a lot of attention from us because you cannot find anyone to friend on facebook or fuckbook which ever it is. But, I got to give it to your parents for passing down flaw genes so that we (the Zero Hedgers) can spank your ass on the internet for all to see! Thank your parents for me (I assume you live in their basement) because they are too embarrassed to let you out in public.

----On a long enough timeline the survival rate for every dumbass drops to zero

P.S. Dr. Bengay, a teenager just whooped your ass, you cuntstain. Get the fuck off ZH you mindless prick!

Wed, 05/09/2012 - 00:47 | 2409110 RafterManFMJ
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Great. I can choose between the Ponzi Kings and the Conspiracy Loons


Do what I do - believe in the both of them.

Wed, 05/09/2012 - 01:13 | 2409134 q99x2
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Turn your vibrator down. You'll be ok. You're just stupid. The new American Idol is running. Check it out.

Wed, 05/09/2012 - 09:15 | 2409616 IrritableBowels
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Tue, 05/08/2012 - 22:12 | 2408786 grunk
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That's uncivilized.

Didn't you get the memo?

Tue, 05/08/2012 - 22:23 | 2408798 mcguire
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" All this was inspired by the principle--which is quite true within itself--that in the big lie there is always a certain force of credibility; because the broad masses of a nation are always more easily corrupted in the deeper strata of their emotional nature than consciously or voluntarily; and thus in the primitive simplicity of their minds they more readily fall victims to the big lie than the small lie, since they themselves often tell small lies in little matters but would be ashamed to resort to large-scale falsehoods. It would never come into their heads to fabricate colossal untruths, and they would not believe that others could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously. Even though the facts which prove this to be so may be brought clearly to their minds, they will still doubt and waver and will continue to think that there may be some other explanation. For the grossly impudent lie always leaves traces behind it, even after it has been nailed down, a fact which is known to all expert liars in this world and to all who conspire together in the art of lying."

—Adolf Hitler , Mein Kampf,


Wed, 05/09/2012 - 05:05 | 2409334 Cortez the Killer
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and this is why 9/11 conspiracy theorists, AL CIAeda memeists and holocuast deniers should be rounded up, shot and ground up into fertilizer

Wed, 05/09/2012 - 09:44 | 2409690 prole
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No one is stopping you.....

Tue, 05/08/2012 - 22:47 | 2408872 A Nanny Moose
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Who's to say said discovered "incendiary device" wasn't gold?

Wed, 05/09/2012 - 02:28 | 2409189 cynicalskeptic
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9/11 an inside job?   we'll never know but it WAS terribly convenient for a LOT of people... lots of investigations dropped in the aftermath... and funny how 3 buildings went down at the WTC when only 2 were hit....  

and it's amazing how quickly the Constitution was gutted in the aftermath - a neo-con wet dream in so many ways....   The Cold War is dead - long live the War on Terror.....   gotta keep the MI complex fully funded and employed....

Wed, 05/09/2012 - 07:38 | 2409430 barkingbill
Tue, 05/08/2012 - 22:25 | 2408810 Catullus
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Haha. Got any evidence that the informant "stole" the device? Or the group gave it to him to carry out a mission. They probably found out he was a spook and gave him the bomb to either carry out a mission or get lost.

All that money on counterterrorism and the only thing the CIA demonstrated is that they can acquire a device from a shady group.

Tue, 05/08/2012 - 22:30 | 2408820 Dr Benway
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Uhh yeah of course they gave it to him to carry out a mission... Duh?


And all they can do is stop one lousy bomb? Really?


Now I start to understand the Ponzi Kings. The general populace is so painfully stupid that it deserves to be bled.

Tue, 05/08/2012 - 22:49 | 2408877 akak
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I think we've discovered the new sockpuppet identity of RedneckRepugnicant and/or MaxFischer.

Tue, 05/08/2012 - 23:46 | 2409015 fuu
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Sounds a bit like Trav7777.

Wed, 05/09/2012 - 00:33 | 2409091 DaveyJones
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whatever he is, he's not very good at it

Wed, 05/09/2012 - 09:47 | 2409705 prole
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Trav was never half that stupid. The "TravBeavis" avatar was to be lovable and cuddly half the time to ingratiate himself with the natives then SLAM GOLD!!  He really tricked me too, money well spent!

Tue, 05/08/2012 - 22:54 | 2408886 Catullus
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Do you have some sort of learning disability?

Let me spell it out for you.  They lost their informant.  That's not a sucessful counterintelligence mission.  They didn't give this guy a target or a plane ticket or even a plan.  They just gave him a pair of skivvies with some explosives sewn in them and told him to have at it.  Some foiled plot. 

Hey, suck hole, the Baltimore Police Department can buy drugs from some guy off the street and claim they "foiled" a plot to distribute drugs.  At least they stopped that dime bag!!! Or you can conclude that the police have the ability to acquire drugs. Woopdy-fucking-do.

Tue, 05/08/2012 - 22:57 | 2408898 Dr Benway
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Retard. I use simple words so you understand.


Agent infiltrate group. Agent given bomb and told terror plans. Agent gives bomb and plans to FBI. Plot is averted and innocents saved.


Understand, retard?

Tue, 05/08/2012 - 23:02 | 2408914 Catullus
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Agent now no longer capable of inflitrating group. Fail.

Agent was never going to carry out mission.  No lives at risk.  Therefore no lives saved.

Tue, 05/08/2012 - 23:19 | 2408960 Paul Atreides
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I will use simple words so you understand.

During the coming 2nd US civil war which ALL your agencies are preparing for (no secret there) traitors like you will be put up against a wall and shot for treason.

Tue, 05/08/2012 - 23:22 | 2408988 Ima anal sphincter
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Tue, 05/08/2012 - 23:54 | 2409025 TheFourthStooge-ing
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If I might make a suggestion, if traitors like that were hanged, no ammunition would need to be wasted on their sorry asses.


Wed, 05/09/2012 - 00:51 | 2409113 Dr Benway
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Wow. No fewer than four oblique deaththreats in one thread... Must be Americans having a discussion here, eh?


Do all you Americans walk around in this non-stop homicidal revenge fantasy? Or is it just you guys? It's like you got a Bronson film playing in your mind all day, as you imagine killing and mutilating those that you perceived to have wronged you. No surprise you have school shootouts so often.


Honestly, how often a day do you have violent thoughts? YOU ARE FUCKING PATHOLOGICAL. But I sure as hell don't want any harm to befall you, I'd just like you to not be so maniacally homicidal.

Wed, 05/09/2012 - 01:04 | 2409123 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Honestly, how often a day do you have violent thoughts? YOU ARE FUCKING PATHOLOGICAL.

You're the one having paroxysmal fits of paranoia over imaginary terrist plots.

Have you been skipping your Thorazine?


Wed, 05/09/2012 - 02:58 | 2409221 akak
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Do all you Americans walk around in this non-stop homicidal revenge fantasy? Or is it just you guys? It's like you got a Bronson film playing in your mind all day, as you imagine killing and mutilating those that you perceived to have wronged you. No surprise you have school shootouts so often.

I take back my earlier supposition that this troll is a sockpuppet of RedneckRepugnicant or MaxFischer --- the style of prose, the sweeping blanket assumptions and accusations, the holier-than-thou-redneck sanctimonious smarmy attitude positively scream "MaxFischer".

The Mystery of the BenGay Troll: solved.

Wed, 05/09/2012 - 11:10 | 2410029 DaveyJones
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does sound similar

Wed, 05/09/2012 - 00:26 | 2409074 Sans-culottes
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Paul you forgot Dr. Bengay will have his mouth wrapped around the future traitor puppet President of the USSA's dick before being executed for treason. I think that enhances the mental picture and satisfaction knowing traitors and minions will be dealt with extreme prejudice.

Wed, 05/09/2012 - 09:31 | 2409649 Chaos_Theory
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If you really believe all the inside-job evidence, growing police state terror and banker control, what makes you think the last remaining holdouts to the true nature of the U.S. Constitution (Libertarians) will be on the winning side?  Alex Jones and folks like him would be stuck on a pike outside D.C. as a warning to all who oppose the state.  If the CWII starts, everyone with an account here would immediately be targeted (all that "cyberwar" capability has to have some purpose, no?).  It would either be a drone watching your house and popping off a Hellfire when you walk out to shit after they've cut your power and water, or Blue Helmet Russian troops flooding your redoubt with naloxone and then shoot any stragglers. 

What it wouldn't be is a gang of HS students destroying the invaders and living in the safety of the mountains shouting "Wolverines!"  Not in an age where the enemy can use wide-area thermal scan drones to find you, and launch a 25lb warhead at 1.2 meters a second at you. 

Now, RE the story, yea, it smacks of too-good-to-be true BS.  I have no doubt it was timed to counter the recent negative stories of the TSA "protecting" us from evil 7-year old handicapped girls or 3-year old toddlers, or most certainly to discredit Dr. Paul's efforts.  Still, I'd rather live in a world where someone like the "Dr" can spout his opinion without threats of death for disagreeing with the dominant opinion of this hive.  Unless all the Libertarian arguments are really just a desire for control on your terms. 


Wed, 05/09/2012 - 00:30 | 2409078 audiorbit
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"Agent infiltrate group. Agent given bomb and told terror plans. Agent gives bomb and plans to FBI."

... then ...

Agency hide truth. Agency say terrorist try to blow up plane. Government gets much milage. Media find out. Media lie to people. People very afraid. Company make more expensive screening technology. Truth is released. Media mostly don't reveal it. People demand safety. Company sells expensive machines. Tax payers pay. People feel safer. Rinse and repeat.

You really have to research the mutallab underwear bomb plot and connect the dots to understand how these spy games work.

Everything you read in the media is propaganda.

Wed, 05/09/2012 - 02:33 | 2409191 BorisTheBlade
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Retard. I use simple words so you understand.

Agent infiltrate group. Agent given bomb and told terror plans. Agent gives bomb and plans to FBI. Plot is averted and innocents saved.

Understand, retard?

You sound like someone who is used to talking to people while holding a gun to their head.

Tue, 05/08/2012 - 23:18 | 2408976 piceridu
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Not only are you troll, but you're a lying troll... you said:

"YES! It is documented that the CIA controls Al Qaeda through mindwaves!! I will now fuck off!"

So please go fuck off already.

Tue, 05/08/2012 - 22:30 | 2408821 Strike Back
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To the logically retarded: If the bomber was a double agent who himself brilliantly created a plan to steal top-secret underwear bombs from the bearded boogeymen, then there was no "foiled" plan to bomb US airplanes, as it was the CIA's plan all along.  The fact that the CIA cooks up a plan and peddles it to the masses as a foiled threat to their lives as a means to centralize more federal power is what this article is attacking.  Run along to your masters now, here is not a good place for you.

Tue, 05/08/2012 - 22:37 | 2408840 Dr Benway
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To the plain retarded: This was a group with sophisticated bomb making experts, with plots to bomb planes.


Only a retard would like them not stopped. In this thread: retards APLENTY.

Tue, 05/08/2012 - 22:42 | 2408862 Ima anal sphincter
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Are you paid for this shit??????

As previously stated. Go the fuck away.

Tue, 05/08/2012 - 22:50 | 2408874 Strike Back
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Then call it what it is.  Don't call it a foiled plot.  And how exactly did we "stop" them?  WTF are they going to do with undies bomb 2.0 to make us any safer?  Are you saying the boogeymen can't make another one?  I'm guessing I've lost you.

Divert. Reframe. Accuse of mental illness. Rinse. Repeat.

Tue, 05/08/2012 - 22:54 | 2408890 Dr Benway
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They had plots to bomb planes. These were foiled. I agree with you that the CIA shouldn't really take credit, for the reason the agent seems to have acted pretty independently and not on the orders of the CIA. Maybe that's why he succeeded, lol.


As to the bogeymen, they certainly will not make another one after being blown to bits, LOL! What do you think happens after the agent reveals them? Come on now.

Tue, 05/08/2012 - 23:18 | 2408978 Strike Back
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Yep.  Lost you.

Wed, 05/09/2012 - 00:30 | 2409066 Think for yourself
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Ok, even if we were to believe somewhat the official story, it's closer to:


  • CIA figures it needs to heighten terror level
  • CIA designs plan to infiltrate mildly significant terror group, which itself is a result of historic Western Axis oppression combined with a background of the western intelligence complex injecting guerilla/terrorism materials, training and culture in the region for the last decades (thats IF, big IF, the group was not directly linked to the CIA in the first place)
  • CIA sends "double-agent" agitator into group which has no specific terror plan and motivates them to prepare some bombs, probably oiling up their unwillingness with large amounts of CIA dark money
  • CIA agent leaves group with homemade high-quality bomb to illustrate seriousness of the threat
  • CIA brings what should have been a top secret operation into the spotlight, harvesting the kudos, dancing along the shouts of "Please take away more of my sovereign rights and protect me from this fearful strawman!"
  • ???
  • Profit!

Oh and by the way, if this was a true operation, such a top secret operation would never have been brought to the spotlight like this. What do you this the group will do upon hearing of this? No, if it was a real infiltration attempt, the guy would have been whisked away on arrival, debriefed, and action taken, not paraded around for FUD value.

By the way, FUD is not a very often used around these parts. It means Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt, which is what the MSM peddle best.

Wed, 05/09/2012 - 13:31 | 2410459 Chaos_Theory
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"Oh and by the way, if this was a true operation, such a top secret operation would never have been brought to the spotlight like this."

Absolutely true.  This smacks of both political goals (shining knight POTUS saved us!), and agency (CIA, TSA) funding goals more than any "security."  Think of all the negatives of the press releases if the gov's story is true...harder to infiltrate cells, more dangerous to double-agents, showing cells what we know so they can react. 

On a positive, now the TSA will have to feel you up inside your underwear and bra now, not just the dry-hump outside the clothes technique.  I call dibs on Sofia Vergara.

Wed, 05/09/2012 - 00:39 | 2409102 DaveyJones
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don't lose your day job    the undewear bomber story had as much cedibility as your arguments    it's weird to be living in an Onion article

Tue, 05/08/2012 - 23:01 | 2408911 WoodMizer
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We should send in seal team six to apprehend the bomb maker and mastermind.  We could get the whole truth out of them at Gitmo.

Scratch that Gitmo is the only part of that plan that is still alive and kicking.

Tue, 05/08/2012 - 23:39 | 2409010 WoodMizer
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Last Word

Tue, 05/08/2012 - 23:58 | 2409033 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Dr Benway ejaculated:

This is the method I personally favor:

I'll bet you even break out the hand lotion when watching that.


Wed, 05/09/2012 - 07:40 | 2409436 fiftybagger
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For Benway:

23 But you, O God, shall bring them down into the pit of destruction: bloody and deceitful men shall not live out half their days; but I will trust in you.

Psalm 55
American King James Version

Tue, 05/08/2012 - 23:44 | 2409012 fuu
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Assets for Truth Team Six have already been activated and are en route.

Tue, 05/08/2012 - 23:11 | 2408949 chipshot
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you are a relentless little propaganda ponzi ball washer arent you... 

Tue, 05/08/2012 - 23:28 | 2408998 Dr Benway
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You are a slimy little terrorist apologist aren't you? Confused when someone doesn't slot neatly into your idiot political categories?

Wed, 05/09/2012 - 00:06 | 2409048 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Somebody save us land-of-the-bravers from the terra!

We need to ditch some more freedom! We still have too much because the terrists still want to get us!!!!!

Wed, 05/09/2012 - 00:45 | 2409084 Think for yourself
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Pot, meet kettle.

Although, to be fair, I wouldn't say you're confused. I'd rather say your quite single-pointed, polarizing into the unit vector of your ideology when you encounter an incompatible idea. That's how you protect your identity (because you identify with your ideology) from being "attacked" by arguments, haven't you noticed?


Tue, 05/08/2012 - 23:51 | 2409023 duncangraper
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Seems like just one by my count.....

Wed, 05/09/2012 - 00:03 | 2409041 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Dr Benway grunted:

To the plain retarded: This was a group with sophisticated bomb making experts, with plots to bomb planes.

"It would seem that what the CIA recovered was essentially just a crudely made bomb."

OH NOES!!!1!!!1!

El Kaider has teh cherry bomb and M80 technologies!


Wed, 05/09/2012 - 00:24 | 2409071 Dr Benway
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If you learn to read, you'll notice that the claim of crudeness was unsupported by links, and is solely the opinion of one James Miller.


If you had read it, you'd know the actual link says this:


"Intelligence officials believe the explosive is the latest effort of the group’s skilled bomb maker, Ibrahim Hassan al-Asiri"

"Unlike the device used in the unsuccessful 2009 attack, this bomb could be detonated in two ways, in case one failed, the official said. The main charge was a high-grade military explosive that “undoubtedly would have brought down an aircraft,” the official said."

Wed, 05/09/2012 - 00:41 | 2409101 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Intelligence officials believe...

...the official said.

...the official said.

Sounds soooooo credible.

Dr Benway: "It's not propaganda if I believe it, damet!"


Wed, 05/09/2012 - 06:50 | 2409321 Reptil
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Dear Doctor,

you could be right. Everything is possible until proven otherwise.

The problem with your "storyline" is, that this event is following the "false flag 101" playbook by the letter: MOST TERRORIST PLOTS OF THE LAST 30 YEARS IN THE WEST HAVE A CIA INVOLVEMENT.

And that these people (CIA) have a consistentcy in lying. It is, in fact, their job.
So.... when some USA agent carries a bomb in, it's just that: A USA AGENT CARRIED A BOMB IN.

Nothing more can be deducted logically. Paint me "not-surprised".

end of transmission.

Wed, 05/09/2012 - 07:42 | 2409438 barkingbill
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yes i would like THEM stopped. but who are THEY Dr. BENWAY??

Tue, 05/08/2012 - 23:15 | 2408964 candyman
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Correct the title tof the article to include "CIA Double Agent Infiltrated the agency courtesy of Eric Hplder...". There its fixed.

Wed, 05/09/2012 - 00:07 | 2409050 collon88
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Dr. Benway, your sarcasm does MillionDollarBonus proud. 

It is sarcasm isn't it???

Wed, 05/09/2012 - 00:36 | 2409095 One World Mafia
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Another CIA agent bomber, huh.

Saudi Arabia provides financial aid for terrorist groups to carry out bombings in Iran and Iraq, etc.

Lloyd’s insurer sues Saudi Arabia for funding 9/11 attacks:

Wed, 05/09/2012 - 01:09 | 2409130 q99x2
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Go find Hammy.

Wed, 05/09/2012 - 08:24 | 2409502 I Told YOU So
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change your name to bengay.

Tue, 05/08/2012 - 22:03 | 2408775 ACP
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If only Adriana Lima were a TSA employee...

Tue, 05/08/2012 - 23:17 | 2408977 ZeroSumGame
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Yeah, 4th Amendment right be damned, groping is great.

Awesome, the See Eye Aye foiled a plot invented by the See Eye Aye.

Hopefully the Department of Homer Simpson will be able to now triple the amount of drones flying over Springfield, err our southern Border, err um Midwest.

Fortunately, my stance on gold is "Evolving", I find that I feel far more civilized if I paint it to match the color the of the clothing before I sew it in.

Tue, 05/08/2012 - 21:49 | 2408755 TravsMom
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That's where my son went!!!  I"ll be missing him :(   sigh

Tue, 05/08/2012 - 21:56 | 2408766 traderjoe
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What did happen to Trav?

Good article.

Tue, 05/08/2012 - 22:18 | 2408795 The Disappointed
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I'm fairly sure that Trav777 is trying to take the 'Munger Rules' to The Golden Truth, lately. To Dave in Denver's credit, he allows (almost) everyone to speak, even trolls.

Wed, 05/09/2012 - 00:01 | 2409040 Joe The Plumber
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Trav is reincarnated. You will just have to guess which new avatar he is.

Tue, 05/08/2012 - 21:49 | 2408756 Dicite justitiam
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The only war that counts is the war for the mind.

Tue, 05/08/2012 - 21:51 | 2408758 Fantasy Planet
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A double secret underwear agent?  Get me the movie rights! 

Tue, 05/08/2012 - 21:58 | 2408768 The Disappointed
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Woody Allen's 'What's Up Tiger Lily?

Wed, 05/09/2012 - 07:28 | 2409413 my puppy for prez
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Was it Hanes spying on Fruit of the Loom, or the other way around?

Tue, 05/08/2012 - 21:55 | 2408763 The trend is yo...
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The war on drugs, the war on terror.....when will we have a war on propaganda

Tue, 05/08/2012 - 22:01 | 2408771 The Disappointed
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Howsa 'bout a war upon war itself? We all know that 'war' is a scam.

Wed, 05/09/2012 - 00:39 | 2409098 Think for yourself
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Remember, when you hear the words "War on", replace by "War of".
War of drugs brought from oversea by the CIA to corrupt the american populace
War of terror brought about by the western intelligence complex's own designs in the middle east 
Same for the war of poverty, the war of homelessness.

Don't worry, the war of propaganda has been going on for a very time, even long before Bernays made a proper scientific field out of it. 

Wed, 05/09/2012 - 02:03 | 2409179 DavidPierre
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War AND Drugs

  War AND Terror

    War AND Poverty

      War AND Homelessness

         War AND Propaganda


Wed, 05/09/2012 - 07:27 | 2409411 my puppy for prez
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In 1914, at the annual dinner of the American Press Association, John Swinton, the editor of a well-known newspaper, was about to retire. In his retirement speech he said:

     "There is no such thing as an independent press in America, if we except those of the little country towns. You know this, I know it! Not a man among you dares to utter his honest opinion. Were you to utter it, you know that it would never appear in print. . . I am paid to keep my honest opinion out of the newspaper for which I write. You too are paid for similar services. Were I to permit a single edition on the newspaper for which I write, to contain an honest opinion, my occupation . . . would be gone in less than twenty-four hours. The man who would be foolish enough to write his honest opinion would soon be walking the streets in search of another job. It is the duty of the New York journalist to lie, distort, to destroy, to revile, to toady at the feet of Mammon, and to sell his country, and his race, for his daily bread, or what amounts to the same, for his salary. We are tools and vessels of the rich (International Bankers and their affiliates such as the C.F.R.) behind the scenes. We are marionettes. These men pull the strings and we dance. Our time, our talents, our lives, our capacities, are all property of these men - we are intellectual prostitutes."

Wed, 05/09/2012 - 07:59 | 2409458 reginald
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John Swinton died in 1901. Please check your source.

Tue, 05/08/2012 - 22:01 | 2408769 Spastica Rex
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6 6 6 for my sorrow and 
7 7 for no tomorrow and
8 8 I forget what 8 was for and 
9 9 9 for a lost god and
10 10 10 10 for everything everything everything everything
You can all just kiss off into the air
Behind my back I can see them stare
They'll hurt me bad but I won't mind
They'll hurt me bad they do it all the time
Yeah yeah,yeah they do it all the time.

Tue, 05/08/2012 - 22:01 | 2408772 nmewn
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The problem with spooks is you never know who's side they're on.

Tue, 05/08/2012 - 22:23 | 2408773 Paul Atreides
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- Manufactured consent for a Drone Strike in Yemen.

- Further erosion of liberty and freedom of travel at the molesting hands of the TSA.

- Re-using the same red herring from three years ago.


OT: Everything you buy in the supermarket comes from only ten companies.

Tue, 05/08/2012 - 23:12 | 2408926 WoodMizer
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Sic Semper Patsies

Semper ubi sub ubi

Tue, 05/08/2012 - 22:08 | 2408780 Gunga
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I think an increasing percentage of the American people realize that the Federal government is the greatest threat to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

Oh, While I'm at it...fuck you NSA

Wed, 05/09/2012 - 08:54 | 2409565 giovanni_f
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Agree. Problem is, what is "government"? It is definitely not the Brezeldent along with his muppets who are in control of the agenda. Whatever Brezeldent diverges in a material way from the interests of the invisible dirty hand, he is going to be JFKed. It is part of the spin to refer to the visible part of the swamp of concentrated interests as "the government". Control is lost to the people, believe it or not. And yes, NSA, fuck you!

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