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Guest Post: Yet Another Reminder That Democracy Is An Illusion

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Submitted by Simon Black from Sovereign Man

Yet Another Reminder That Democracy Is An Illusion

With over 150 million registered users, the file sharing site is one of the most popular on the Internet. At least, it was. 

The site has now been seized by the US government and its homepage converted to an FBI anti-piracy warning. Its founder, a high tech entrepreneur named Kim Dotcom (yes, he had it legally changed), was arrested in New Zealand after his homes were raided and assets seized.

These actions were all at the behest of the US government. And it's just the latest example of Big Brother overextending its authority across the entire world.

Last week, we discussed the grassroots efforts to stop passage of the SOPA/PIPA legislation that would give the US government jurisdiction over the Internet. Wikipedia blacked out its English language pages to raise awareness of the issue, and people went completely nuts.

Congress subsequently withdrew the bills amid popular outcry, and the public rejoiced that their efforts successfully thwarted further encroachment on their liberty. Or so they thought.

On the exact same day that everyone was celebrating victory over SOPA/PIPA, the US government simply used another set of regulations to nab Dotcom and seize his assets. The fact that SOPA was scrapped turned out to be completely irrelevant, they just found other rules to apply (or break).

As usual, it's probably not legal. But such technicalities don't matter in the 'guilty until proven innocent' system in which we live. Executive agencies exercise extreme latitude when confiscating assets, and victims often don't have the opportunity to address the matter in front of a judge for years, if ever.

In Dotcom's case, the man probably won't even successfully make it past the extradition process for at least a year... let alone bring the issue to trial. The government is using its bureaucracy to completely circumvent due process and make an example of somebody that they consider a nuisance.

So why should they care? What interest could the US government possibly have in a silly file sharing site? None. But the entertainment industry does.

You see, we don't live in a representative democracy. Democracy is an illusion to make people believe that they're free. Instead, it's blocs of large corporations who are really in control. If the entertainment business wants Kim Dotcom to go away, the government will invent or break any law necessary to make it happen. They're all in bed together.

What's more, it doesn't matter which group or party is in power. Democrat or Republican, Labour or Conservative, Liberal or New Democratic... they're all for sale. Citizens concern themselves with the outcome of elections, investing heavy emotional and financial support for 'their guy'. Companies just wait it out and buy off whichever candidates win.

Kim Dotcom, though a wealthy and successful entrepreneur, was essentially a lone wolf standing against the entire industry. Rather than find ways to work with him in what is clearly emerging as a dominant media platform, they chose to eliminate him... by having the US government send the New Zealand government to arrest him and seize his assets.

It's mind numbing when you really think about it.

Ultimately, Dotcom may successfully find his way back to a normal life after years in court and perhaps some time in jail. In the meantime, though, his case certainly makes a strong argument for flying under the radar. It's a stark reminder that, if they really want to get you, they'll apply, invent, or break whatever laws are necessary to do so.


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Tue, 01/24/2012 - 14:46 | 2093333 pods
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They should do that to the FED!


Tue, 01/24/2012 - 14:58 | 2093396 King_of_simpletons
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The solution is simple. Don't go to movies and don't buy music. Movies suck and music sucks anyway..

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 15:09 | 2093452 WALLST8MY8BALL
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I agree with you on movies but you can buy music direct from most artist's these days. And alot of it doesn't suck.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 15:21 | 2093518 Spastica Rex
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I download old movies because I'm sure the copyrights have expired. Can you imagine a system where copyright essentially never expires and media works created by long dead individuals provide eternal income for distribution cartels? That would just be crazy.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 15:25 | 2093540 wretch
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Not even Ron Paul can save you.  The cult of Libertarianism promotes and protects the Corporation.  Good luck with that.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 15:29 | 2093552 tmosley
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Shut your lie-hole.  Libertarianism and the corporation are not compatible.  The corporation exists explicitly through government intervention.  A libertarian regime would no more allow the continued existence of corporations than a Communist one would.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 15:39 | 2093593 wretch
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Tue, 01/24/2012 - 16:01 | 2093684 Spastica Rex
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Nice volley.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 16:36 | 2093811 Max Fischer
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When Ron Paul tells you that he even wants air traffic controllers to be run by private enterprise, you can get a glimpse of what pure libertarianism produces:  an entire country run by corporations who chase nothing more than dollars and profits at the expense of general welfare.  If you want to turn America into a corporatocracy with a multitude of oppressive oligarchies, a Ron Paul presidency would be the fastest, surest route.  It's amazing that people revolt against our oppressive corporate/banking plutocracy by choosing an ideology which would make it worse.

Max Fischer 

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 16:39 | 2093822 GeneMarchbanks
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It's official, with this latest treasure MDB's belt is under pressure. Unless of course...

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 16:43 | 2093831 LFMayor
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it's threatening those academics you love to extoll, isn't it?

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 16:44 | 2093836 Spastica Rex
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What would make it better? Just curious - I'm agnostic.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 17:01 | 2093901 greyghost
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peace bond

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 18:00 | 2094169 tmosley
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If that's the case, then why do the corporations and kleptocrats hate him so much?

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 18:00 | 2094171 moroots
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"If you want to turn America into a corporatocracy with a multitude of oppressive oligarchies..."

The Year 2012 just called ... it said "Wake the fuck up and look around you, Max Fischer"

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 19:11 | 2094437 Rusty_Shackleford
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f-ing A.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 18:03 | 2094181 Sean7k
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How do you make the leap to corporations running everything? A private party or partnership caould own an airport, hire air traffic controllers and voila- private enterprise at work.

Of course, you could have what we have now: public corporations (government unions) and private corporations all protected by the police power of the state- creating monopolies and cartels in collusion with each other and the courts look the other way. Oh, that's way better.

It is chasing profits that creates jobs or have you never picked up an econ book? If you would take the time to pluck your left wing out of your ass, you might see it.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 18:22 | 2094265 Random_Robert
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"When Ron Paul tells you that he even wants air traffic controllers to be run by private enterprise, you can get a glimpse of what pure libertarianism produces: an entire country run by corporations who chase nothing more than dollars and profits at the expense of general welfare. If you want to turn America into a corporatocracy with a multitude of oppressive oligarchies, a Ron Paul presidency would be the fastest, surest route. It's amazing that people revolt against our oppressive corporate/banking plutocracy by choosing an ideology which would make it worse."

-Bullshit. You commit the logical fallacy that Private enterprise yields more powerful corporations without even realizing that private corporations have to be run by PEOPLE, and that people are accountale for their actions, and they are liable for damages they cause.

If, in the process of prosecuting a person for their liability, their corporation is destroyed, then so be it. That is a fundamental tenant of free markets.  

Libertarianism is people above corporations, and personal accountability as the cornerstone of civil societies.





Wed, 01/25/2012 - 17:03 | 2097581 stopthejunk1
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Random Robert gets it right.  Electing someoen like Ron Paul is only the beginning. 

Once we have constitutional government again, the corporations will be drastically weakened.

And once we have constitutional government, we can amend our constitution - if we so choose - to protect us from corporations if that's what the modern world requires.  For instance, there is no statute or court decision that awards corporations the status of "persons" under the law, and deserving of equal protections.  That doctrine has a shady and storied history going back to the railroad monopolies and robber barons.  Maybe we should make Hillaire Belloc's "The Servile State" required reading for everyone, and then see what kind of "property rights" regime crops up in culture and law - and whether it is as friendly to giant, remote corporations as it is to families.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 18:00 | 2094165 tmosley
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What, you mean the SOCIALIST Republic that has a mixed market China?

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 15:41 | 2093596 bb5
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the corporation does no wrong in libertarian speak. It's the government over and over. Have you ever heard Ron Paul blaming the banks by name or otherwise for creating the current crisis?

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 15:43 | 2093610 wretch
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Precisely.  In the last debate, Ron Paul painted the banks as victims of the government, and blamed the government for the entirety of the financial crisis.  Do you think that's balanced?  Do you think he's deliberately focusing on government issues (of which there are many) and deliberately avoiding corporate/industrial/banking issues?  It's not an accident.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 15:45 | 2093620 Dr. Richard Head
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You are missing one caveat.  Corporations couldn't go to the public trough for assistance when they fuck up.  Wrap that into your argument as well.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 15:49 | 2093637 wretch
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Under a Libertarian utopia, as envisioned by Ayn Rand and the rest of you sick fucks, corporations won't need the government.  Corporation uber alles, bitches.  McGovernance.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 16:21 | 2093767 YHC-FTSE
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I'll give you a +1 for putting in "sick fucks" with "Ayn Rand", since that disgusting zionist is as libertarian as your average goose-stepping Latvian SS recruit. But you are way, way off the reservation on the brand of libertarianism as espoused by Dr.Paul. All you have to do is LISTEN to his messages about smaller government, getting rid of the Federal Reserve, the Amerikan Empire/militarism, corporate bailouts, and supporting individual liberty and dignity to know that he is the EXACT OPPOSITE of the corporatism that is so pernicious throughout American society today, and the corporist ideals that you so despise with the rest of us.

Sorry pal, but you have it all wrong. Being a libertarian has more to do with the personal freedom to do whatever we wish and taking personal responsibility for our actions, than corporate freedom and power to do whatever they wish without taking responsibility for the crap they bestow on the rest of us. 

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 16:47 | 2093841 Spastica Rex
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You sound more like a Thoreuean anarchist -- which is fine by me.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 17:17 | 2093958 YHC-FTSE
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Thanks. I learn something new every day here. ;)

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 17:19 | 2093968 Cathartes Aura
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different flavours, different definitions of "personal liberty" and "personal freedoms."

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 17:40 | 2094057 YHC-FTSE
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I don't doubt that there are many flavours. Dr.Paul does have a habit of bringing different people together for a common cause. At the risk of ignoring the flavours I dislike, I stated the obvious antitheses of corporatism. Corporatists always want larger government, and bigger government spending. Dr.Paul is of course the exact opposite.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 20:56 | 2094684 Cathartes Aura
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that's a great response.

I'm just outside that "common cause" thing as I've found little in common with most people in general, and have zero belief in the systems at play currently.


Wed, 01/25/2012 - 09:53 | 2095982 goat
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Agree with most of this, but I don't think you have much insight or knowledge into the Latvian SS from your post.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 16:32 | 2093793 Buckaroo Banzai
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It all depends on which banks you are talking about. There are two types of banks: huge, politicallly connected banks which own and control the Federal Reserve System, and small local banks, which are not politically connected and not members of the Federal Reserve.

Small, local banks are getting absolutely crushed. These banks historically played a critical role in the local economy, and as recently as 20 years ago, were vital sources of small business funding and local mortgage lending. They have been crippled and marginalized in the last decade, all according to plan.

Talk to a small banker to understand exactly what they are up against, and dont lump these good guys in with the Wall Street crowd.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 16:52 | 2093863 Spastica Rex
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All of my family's vast wealth is now held in a local credit union. GESA is really a great outfit.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 17:16 | 2093951 Willzyx
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How much of your vast wealth is insured by the NCUA?  I hope you have different registrations

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 17:18 | 2093954 Spastica Rex
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I'm an unemployed teacher and my wife teaches at a Catholic school - that a clue?

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 15:48 | 2093630 Dr. Richard Head
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Jesus H. Durden.....The banks go bailed out and the people were kicked out of their homes was, and is, a common theme in his message.  A message that wishes not to bail out the banks and stick the people with the debts.  Cherry pick your asshole instead of an honest man's words.

I would goatse you if I could.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 16:05 | 2093700 A Nanny Moose
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Ummm...Coercion vs. Volunteerism. Corporations don't have all the fucking guns. If you don't like a particualr corporation, you take your $ to another corporation....volun-fucking-tarily. Government is a violent coercive monopoly, that will violate your rights. If you don't like government what are you going to do? Vote? For the same bullshit over and over...Einstein?

Also of interest, is that growth in corporations bears a direct relationship to growth in government. The trend always continues until the two achieve singularity status. The corporation itself a legal fiction, created by whom? Government.

The idea that increasing government would control the very coporations which it has created in order to farm you and your rug rats, as the tax livestock you all are, is simple, fucking idiotic.


Tue, 01/24/2012 - 16:12 | 2093734 xcehn
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RP has stated that corporations are not people, my friend.  (Why does Romnuts have to remind us of Mccain with this moron-speak?). 

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 17:43 | 2094068 dolly madison
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Ron Paul seems to want many good things, but he does not have all the solutions that we need.  We got here from the beginning of our constitution.  What makes anyone think we wouldn't just get here again if we only stepped back to the beginning again?

The fact that we got here means there was something missing, a check and balance missing.  That check and balance is participatory democracy.  We need to be able to fire bought politicians.  We need to be able to strike down unjust laws, and we even with a supermajority need to be able to change our constitution. 

It is often convenient to let leaders lead us, but because the few will always be subject to bribery and threat, we need the power to be able to stop them.  That is what is missing.

At each of these "turnings" the people gain something.  This time I am hopeful we will gain power over the elite.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 17:49 | 2094117 crazyjsmith
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It's corporate welfare that is the problem, not the corp. itself.
The current Gov't/Regime favors Big Corp, clearly, see Too Big To Fail.
Get rid of the lobbyist control of Gov't, not the Gov itself, and allow for poorly run, sociopathic entities that feast off our economy to fail.
Ron does bash banks by proxy by going after the FED, in which he claims correctly is a private entity owned by World Banks...

See this link on who owns the FED

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 18:05 | 2094199 Sean7k
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Ron Paul has been a tireless opponent of the FED- that is the banks you moron.

Second, it is the police power of the state under the control of corpoations that creates the problems we have today. Without that protection, corporations would be subject to the discipline of the market and would not be a problem. 

If you understaood economics, you might realize this. Ron Paul does.

Wed, 01/25/2012 - 16:55 | 2097565 stopthejunk1
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Uh, yes: over and over, for years - including before the 2008 crash: (video is from 2007)

Ron Paul voted against the TARP bailout that saved the banks (and their shareholders) from complete collapse due to their bad investments.

Most giant corporations could not exist without corporate welfare. 

Ron Paul does not go far enough, but he goes as far as Libertarianism will let him, and he goes much, much further than anyone else.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 15:42 | 2093606 ProtectiveFather
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"Shut your lie-hole." Haha. That's funny.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 17:13 | 2093942 Cathartes Aura
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A libertarian regime would no more allow the continued existence of corporations than a Communist one would.

the problem is, "libertarian regimes" appear to come in different flavours of late - so one would have to be very specific as to which flavour one favours. . .

we're back to seeking the definitions of words & beliefs.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 15:40 | 2093591 cgbspender
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Quite misinformed.


Many Libertarians take issue with intellectual property.

You might want to look into Stephan Kinsella:



Tue, 01/24/2012 - 15:41 | 2093607 Spastica Rex
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I'm Libertarian-curious.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 16:34 | 2093807 Buckaroo Banzai
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Indeed. Here is Kinsella's "Case against Intellectual Property":

Makes for compelling reading.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 20:40 | 2094655 Dr. Acula
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Outstanding article.

And here's a 1-minute synopsis:


Tue, 01/24/2012 - 16:30 | 2093783 dwdollar
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LOL... right... cause that's exactly what we've been living in for the past 100 years. A cult of Libertarianism. I'll help you with the '/sarc' tag.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 19:27 | 2094484 one man wolf pack
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Ron Paul is one of the few honest politicians in Washington. He stands on the side of liberty, the individual, due process, etc etc etc. if people would take the time to learn some history, and then understand the principles that he basis his positions on, most people find they have more in common with him then any other politician. It's bullshit that the media misrepresents, misquotes, and downright calls him unelectable.

Imagine that. The one honest guy unelectable

End the fed and you end the wars

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 15:26 | 2093544 CynicLaureate
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Copyright lasts 75 years, and can be renewed for another 50.  You're not safe downloading anything from 1890 or later :-)


Tue, 01/24/2012 - 15:35 | 2093574 Spastica Rex
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I was being funny.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 15:53 | 2093658 fuu
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Not to mention Congress can now place public domain works back under copyright in order to comply with the Berne Convention.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 16:09 | 2093720 Crassus
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Life of the author/creator plus 70 years. Or until Mickey Mouse nears that mark again.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 16:36 | 2093812 Buckaroo Banzai
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Like anything else in our corrupt society, the rules apply only to those who cannot buy their way around them.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 16:50 | 2093852 francis_sawyer
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Copyright lasts 75 years, and can be renewed for another 50. You're not safe downloading anything from 1890 or later :-)

I'll be anxiously hoping that the copyright on the US Dollar doesn't become renewed...

Wed, 01/25/2012 - 09:15 | 2095880 swoop72
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Can you imagine a system where copyright essentially never expires

why imagine when you can just read.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 23:58 | 2095300 Freddie
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Cancel TV. ALL TV is sh*t and it is 24x7 brainwashing for the power structure.   Only sheep watch TV.  The serfs gave away their liberty for a clicker.   Pretty much screw all elites media - newspapers, magazines, TV and movies.  F em.

Great - Google sponsored Obama ads here on ZH.  Avoid Google as well.


Tue, 01/24/2012 - 15:01 | 2093405 HedgeAccordingly
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this country is a fucking sham

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 15:17 | 2093482 stirners_ghost
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They all are. Governments exist to fix prices for the benefit of some-or-other bloc. Such blocs include, for example, small-government "libertarians" who want to fix the price of defending borders and neighborhood security (at someone else's expense) but not much else.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 16:36 | 2093814 Buckaroo Banzai
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Anarcho-capitalism is the only answer.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 16:59 | 2093894 Spastica Rex
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I like the idea of a meta-system where a single proponent of each socio-political idealogical construct (communism, corporate capitalism, anarcho-capitalism, etc.) would fight to the death with his or her oponents in a giant cage match using only cutting and bludgeoning weapons. The final wo/man standing would be declared the winner and would either immediately assume the role of dictator in the case of a totalitarian system, or elections would be held. It would be televised and streamed nationally - say every 50 years or so - and all other programming would preempted.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 18:17 | 2094244 MachoMan
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Not really...  you also have to lay the foundation for it...  Anarcho capitalism at timeline 0 equals win...  anarcho capitalism at timeline 50 equals corporatism...  and by the time the timeline hits 100, you're at totalitarian/dictator rule...

In and of itself, it really isn't an answer...  there is no viable mechanism for stasis.  Further, if participants/citizens do not start off on equal footing, the previous power brokers (of the last regime) end up with head starts in the new one...  this is how you get familial wealth that transcends time and political changes through centuries.

In the end, anarcho capitalism is simply a description of a temporary point on a see-sawing timeline.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 15:16 | 2093498 Michael
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The Act of 1871- The American Scam Revealed

District of Columbia Act of 1871 Defacto formed 1

District of Columbia Act 1871 De Facto formed 2

District of Columbia Act 1871 De Facto formed 3


Tue, 01/24/2012 - 16:40 | 2093825 Chupacabra-322
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@ Michael, that's a great name.  Save these and Forward to everyone.

The United States Isn't a Country
— It's a Corporation!

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."
— Preamble of the original "organic" Constitution

UNITED STATES is a Corporation - There are Two Constitutions - Sovereignty

The original United States has been usurped by a separate and different UNITED STATES formed in 1871, which only controls the District of Columbia and it’s territories, and which is actually a corporation (the UNITED STATES CORPORATION) that acts as our current government. The United States Corporation operates under Corporate/Commercial/Public Law rather than Common/Private Law

The reason I started with the Flag issue is because it is so easy to grasp. The main problem I have with the yellow fringe is that by its use our Constitutional Republic is no more. Our system of law was changed without the public's knowledge. It was kept secret. This is fraud. The American people were allowed to believe this was just a decoration. Because the law changed from Common Law (God's Law) to Admiralty Law (the kings law) your status also changed from sovereign to subject. From being able to own property (allodial title) to not owning property (tenet on the land). If you think you own your property, stop paying taxes, it will be taken under the prize law.


When you walk into a court and see this flag you are put on notice that you are in a Admiralty Court and that the king is in control. Also, if there is a king the people are no longer sovereign. You're probably saying this is the most incredible thing I have ever heard. YOU have read the proof, it will stand up in court. But wait, there is more, you probably would say, how could this happen? Here's how. Admiralty law is for the sea, maritime law govern's contracts between parties that trade over the sea. Well, that's what our fore-fathers intended. However, in 1845 Congress passed an act saying Admiralty law could come on land. The bill may be traced in Cong. Globe, 28th Cong., 2d. Sess. 43, 320, 328, 337, 345(1844-45), no opposition to the Act is reported. Congress held a committee on this subject in 1850 and they said:

Wed, 01/25/2012 - 00:04 | 2095324 Freddie
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Why 1871?  Right after a civil war backed and pushed by a european banking family.  Their proxies (aka carpet baggers) then invaded the south after the war.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 16:24 | 2093774 Chupacabra-322
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Off topic but perhaps not. 

LA Military Exercises

David Perez
KFI News
January 24, 2012

Joint military training exercises will be held evenings in downtown Los Angeles through Thursday, according to the Los Angeles Police Department.

The LAPD will be providing support for the exercises, which will also be held in other portions of the greater Los Angeles area, police said.

Training sites “have been carefully selected to ensure the event does not negatively impact the citizens of Los Angeles and their daily routine,” a department official said.

The training, which a department official said would involve helicopters, has been coordinated with local authorities and owners of the training sites, police said.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 17:48 | 2094101 walküre
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Running out of wars to fight overseas, they turn on their own people.

Wed, 01/25/2012 - 00:08 | 2095335 Freddie
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Democrat state destroyed by liberal Democrats who promoted open-borders.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 17:32 | 2094011 A Lunatic
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So I guess this means you really can't run away to some exotic land and be prosperous and free from the ravages of the Amerikan government. Gee, who'da thunk it?

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 15:15 | 2093484 tmosley
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I'd rather see their heads on pikes lining highways across the nation, but whatever.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 16:55 | 2093880 V in PA
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The IPR eagle is like all angry and tough. YEAHH we're the IPR. The DOJ eagle looks like it dropping a load before take-off.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 17:43 | 2094074 kill switch
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Shut down this site that allows people to download shit they wouldn't buy otherwise,,,the loss of revenue is BS... but Corzine still walks the streets. WTF.. Fanatic Blunderers International.


1.3  Billion?  I dunno where it went,,,

Penetrating testimony by the Corzine...

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 21:11 | 2094711 Buck Johnson
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He's correct, if they want you they will get you pure and simple. 

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 14:57 | 2093341 hedgeless_horseman
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If they really wanted to protect citizens from real peril, then they need only shut down these two giant ponzi schemes:

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 14:57 | 2093392 GeneMarchbanks
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Those are still OK for the time being. Just don't start your own.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 15:25 | 2093538 francis_sawyer
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the chinese are probably raffing their asses off at this...

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 15:48 | 2093631 Floordawg
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Oh they want to protect US citizens from peril alright, that's why the LAPD and US military are holding joint urban exercises this week in downtown LA.

Yes, downtown fuckin' LA.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 17:39 | 2094056 Cathartes Aura
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the comments on that link also state "urban exercises" in Little Rock, Arkansas. . .

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 18:39 | 2094325 MachoMan
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they state paradrops onto the VA hospital???  Really?  I'll call a few friends down there, catch up, and ask some questions trying not to sound like a nut...  can't find any links with a cursory web search...

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 21:02 | 2094694 Cathartes Aura
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I'll hope you post any news here, and will look out for it - thanks!

(also tried a few searches, nothing yet. . .)

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 22:57 | 2095098 Floordawg
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Here's the innocuous link I found:

Wed, 01/25/2012 - 00:59 | 2095441 Cathartes Aura
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aye, thanks, that's the link where I read the comment:

Carol Son Havener · Plainview, Arkansas

"Training exercises" have been going on in Little Rock also. Military here doing night drops by helicopter into downtown Little Rock at the old VA hospital where the city police department is housed. Hmm...."

was hoping to get some more information on other places where these "urban training exercises" are being staged. . .

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 14:50 | 2093342 Conrad Murray
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Find a forum, find an IRC. Be anonymous, start an insurgency.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 16:10 | 2093724 Legolas
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Thanks for the links !!  I think everyone needs to be prepared to be able to communicate.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 16:27 | 2093781 flattrader
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You win the Most Useful Post of the Day Award.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 14:49 | 2093343 ffart
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Note to self: If I ever become wealthy take half my money and bury it in the woods in gold coin form.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 14:55 | 2093374 Vincent Vega
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An excellent idea even if you aren't wealthy.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 14:52 | 2093356 lolmao500
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Yet these scum at the FBI won't go after the Pentagon for much worse.

5200 Pentagon Employees PURCHASED Child Pornography!

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 16:18 | 2093735 V in PA
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It was purchased. No copyright laws were broken. Or something like that.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 16:30 | 2093787 carguym14
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I would also accept "professional courtesy" as a correct answer.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 14:52 | 2093357 HD
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The feds assume every file on the site is stolen - so anyone who stored anything lost it all. The cloud is not your friend apparently.

Fear not...Decentralized DNS is coming.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 14:57 | 2093381 tarsubil
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I thought Khan explained that it is much more than just domain name resolution that they can go after.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 15:47 | 2093629 HD
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Decentralized DNS is the last thing the government wants. It takes the monopoly from ICANN and makes tracking users and information much more difficult. Removing or blocking a site turns into a game of endless whack-a-mole.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 16:03 | 2093697 NotApplicable
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While true, it still won't help legitimate businesses who are victimized, as they won't be playing the part of a mole.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 15:07 | 2093410 tarsubil
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All your domain are belong to US. Zwitterang Wing was prophetic!

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 15:10 | 2093448 dracos_ghost
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Except for "Cloud Providers" like IBM, Google, Microsoft, Amazon, etc.

Somebody told me the other day, "Why are you so pissed, they(the gubmint) are what they are. You're a minority opinion. What they're doing is good. They won't go too far."

TPTB are controlling the narrative.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 15:20 | 2093516 hedgeless_horseman
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Except for "Cloud Providers" like IBM, Google, Microsoft, Amazon, etc.



There is no difference between their clouds and Kim's.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 15:50 | 2093643 HD
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There is one important difference. Dotcom wasn't making campaign contributions to the right people.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 15:57 | 2093669 tinsmith
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'They won't go too far.' Riiiight, because 'they' always know when to stop. You know, that idea of the government being a wise helping hand was what I was taught when I was a kid, and I believed it then. But WAY too many adults still think that way....... unless..... was the person you were talking to eight years old?

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 14:54 | 2093367 Gubbmint Cheese
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First they came for the tech geeks,

and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a tech geek...


Tue, 01/24/2012 - 15:07 | 2093437 tarsubil
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I don't think these are the first people taken at this point.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 15:13 | 2093467 orangedrinkandchips
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EXACTLY....EXACLTY!.....well done! good post.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 14:54 | 2093370 Seize Mars
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To anyone who ever thought "I'll just move to New Zealand, and live free out in the counrtyside..."

The uk's daily mail had pictures of - literally - black helicopters on the guy's front lawn. No joke.

No place is safe.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 15:19 | 2093513 Alpha Monkey
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"I'll just move to New Zealand, and live free out in the counrtyside..."

You know, this was a recent thought of mine...

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 14:56 | 2093376 The Axe
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yet Jon Corzine is FUCKING FREE

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 15:11 | 2093458 Ruffcut
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He was not free. HE cost alot of people a buttload of money.


Tue, 01/24/2012 - 14:57 | 2093382 williambanzai7
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Tue, 01/24/2012 - 15:01 | 2093403 Dr. Engali
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One picture and one bold statement wraps it up brilliantly. Thank you.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 15:14 | 2093475 Gubbmint Cheese
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love the "Linda Green" username.. nice touch

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 15:19 | 2093507 Dr. Engali
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I didn't catch that. It's always the little things is in his work.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 15:19 | 2093510 francis_sawyer
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I like the "measures" in the back that puts them all as under 5'5"... fucking midgets!

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 15:03 | 2093414 ali-ali-al-qomfri
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Thx WB7, smiles for everyone

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 15:07 | 2093433 Uncle Remus
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Fucking wanking bankers.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 15:28 | 2093547 moroots
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WB7 you are our generation's Thomas Nast.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 15:33 | 2093566 Killer the Buzzard
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AWESOME job WB... but where is Corzine?

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 16:14 | 2093748 847328_3527
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Is there a Nobel Prize in Embezzlenomics?

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 16:33 | 2093797 carguym14
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William keeps it up and he is going to learn about "rendition" first hand...........

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 15:10 | 2093390 Azannoth
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"..they'll apply, invent, or break whatever laws are necessary to do so." Rule of Law is an illusion, today in Europe or America you have just as many Rights as you'd have in Nazi Germany or Soviet Russia, the books are filled with meaningless jibber-jabber that not even the lawyers or judges understand and all you need is to stick your head out for this book to fall on top of you, as an anonymous citizen you might slip under the radar most of the time but become prominent in any way and your life might literary become a nightmare in the middle of the night as Government Stormtroopers rush through the door into your bedroom.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 15:00 | 2093398 mjk0259
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Kim Dotcom did not invent anything or produce anything original. Surely, most of his income comes from pirating other people's creations.

File sharing will continue through Russia, etc.

Not a big deal.

Lots of people  get their lives ruined just by having a bit of rec rx without making millions from it.







Tue, 01/24/2012 - 15:31 | 2093563 tmosley
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He saw a market need, and filled it.  There were plenty of legitimate uses for that service.  My own company used similar services to transfer large encrypted files.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 15:05 | 2093426 juangrande
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They've been doing this to "drug dealers" for more than 25 yrs. All of these unwinnable "war on (blank)" campaigns are designed solely to infringe on Const. rights. Villify the targets enough and sheeple go along, until its too late. So, who among us was complicit when they rolled out these campaigns? If you were, don't cry now!

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 15:10 | 2093428 dick cheneys ghost
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so jon corzine can steal.........but kim dotcom cannot......what a country!!

check out this vid from warren pollock on the subject....

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 15:15 | 2093483 fishface
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well he never 'donated' any money, did he

Jon did


Tue, 01/24/2012 - 15:31 | 2093560 Chuck Walla
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well he never 'donated' any money, did he



Tue, 01/24/2012 - 15:17 | 2093503 Alpha Monkey
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I'm not even sure Dotcom was stealing, but moreso, providing a platform on which people could possibly conspire to "steal", if that's what you want to call trading digital information.

So, Corzines of the world can steal, but anyone who helps sharing is a criminal. 

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 15:22 | 2093527 Ruffcut
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That's how they keep the ponzi in vogue. You create the CEO, You then make him Governor. You owe him so to place in easy cash job, playing with OPM.   For all we know he may have had no clue where the money ever was. These days, I deny and might believe things , during the same stroke. They are winning, but I'm growing tired of this bullshit. IT is like, a fat woman sticking her stinky ass in your face, every single day.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 15:06 | 2093429 junkyardjack
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Yet somehow Youtube manages to post TV shows, radio shows, movies and just about anything else with the ability to search for the content but they didn't swing through the windows at Google. Lobbying dollars at work

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 17:29 | 2094005 zerozulu
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Basically Google has become a CIA, FBI sponsored project.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 15:06 | 2093431 BLOTTO
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Tyler... you of all people should know - everything is an illusion - nevermind democracy.


Reality is their illusion

Their fiction is the reality

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 15:06 | 2093434 I Am Not a Copp...
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"What's more, it doesn't matter which group or party is in power. Democrat or Republican, Labour or Conservative, Liberal or New Democratic... they're all for sale. Citizens concern themselves with the outcome of elections, investing heavy emotional and financial support for 'their guy'. Companies just wait it out and buy off whichever candidates win."



Tue, 01/24/2012 - 15:17 | 2093501 BLOTTO
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Us    vs.     Them

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 15:06 | 2093436 Sunshine n Lollipops
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The biggest effin racket in the world busts this guy for . . . . racketeering!

Oh, the irony.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 15:07 | 2093441 non_anon
Tue, 01/24/2012 - 15:42 | 2093558 Azannoth
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"Unfortunately, this UMG-music-content is not available in Germany because GEMA has not granted the respective music publishing rights." :D

I could not watch this video even if I wanted to PAY for it! Piracy is often not a willing choice people make but a move out of necessity

I've already been to Cinema 2x this year because I can afford it and  don't want to compromise quality on good movies, but after the recent developments I would just feel like a Whore paying off a PIMP going to cinema again, I won't be a paying customer of the Entertainment Industry anytime soon again

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 16:08 | 2093716 NotApplicable
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I was going to suggest using a proxy, but those will likely be targeted next.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 15:09 | 2093443 JR
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What happened with the SOPA/PIPA law was the sentiment of the people. The tyrants are going to find that the people are going to fight. The tyrants have the government in their hands, BUT they do not have the people.

They misinterpret the lethargy, the apathy, of the people as support for their Stalinist actions … but information and circulation of the truth such as this quick report by Black and Tyler will eventually bring them down. They think they are above the law, that they can manipulate you and me, but they can't.

Be ready!

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 15:29 | 2093473 Azannoth
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SOPA/PIPA - where there just to legitimize existing practices same with The Patriot Act, a simple piece of retroactive legislation giving government employees immunity for past(and future) crimes

"..that they can manipulate you and me, but they can't" - manipulation is often redundant as humans will willingly play their own jail guards and executioners as long as they get to take others with them, many studies have shown that humans are more likely to hurt their own interests as long as they can keep others down on their level as opposed to letting more talented people succeed, I don't view this as a fight against Government(specifically) but a fight against Humanity(in general) that (I) am facing

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 15:48 | 2093634 JR
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Your definition does not explain revolution.

One of the most endearing characteristics of the human race is that individuals do not have identical reponses to tryants. The Rodney King can’t-we-all-just-get-along response does not fit the Patrick Henry why-stand-we-here-idle attitude.  In summation, some will hide in their houses and others will rush to the sound of the guns.


Tue, 01/24/2012 - 16:23 | 2093685 Azannoth
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Depends on culture(another proof that not humans are made equal, and the explanation for the Open Borders policy - to get more people in who are used to oppresive regimes and shitty economy and will take way more abuse than the average White Man before rebeling), neither the Russian nor the Chinese totalitarian states were overthrown due to popular support the Soviet State collapsed due to economical degeneration while the Chinese sucessfuly avoided that with their market oriented reforms, still North Korea is going strong with 95% of the people within actively or passively supporting the system. Revolution is an exception an Anomaly that surfaces through an seemingly impossible alignment of the stars rather than willful engagement of the people, the Nash Equilibrium says it all, a stable and even a degrading Mediocracy benefits most people most of the time so they will mostly seek to preserve it untill the bitter end, the only way to maximize your interests is to constantly and (intelligently)bet against the crowd and keep moving

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 21:36 | 2094764 cranky-old-geezer
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Be ready!

For what?

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 15:11 | 2093445 digalert
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SOPA is not dead

The rat bastards have merely removed it from the limelight. The globalist nazi's are exposed and ramping up their crackdown on you. We've got the Patriot act, NDAA war on USA citizens and soon SOPA. These rat bastards have shown they have no rules.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 20:00 | 2094565 AUD
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The rules we make for others.... don't apply to us.... we do what we want. (Jello Biafra, 1991)

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 15:09 | 2093453 Sandmann
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Hollywood can make The Bourne Identity but it will not make a movie about Kim Schmitz aka Kim Dotcom. He is really a caricature and knows he is, but he is really exposing Corporate Media and the Puppet Men in Washington. It is just like The Matrix with Agent Smith running riot.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 15:17 | 2093500 Instant Wealth
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Hollywood killed the video star.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 15:10 | 2093454 WyMi
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first boycott hollywood and main stream media , washington, wall street and the irs. If no response boycott mainstreet, state governing bodies, local banking and electronic payment systems. Finally, boycott america (go on an extended vcation) - stop supporting the fraud. 

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 15:12 | 2093455 Vergeltung
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what, then, do you make of intellectual property rights? is everything open to un-remunerated "sharing" (theft)?

I'm no fan of "big brother", but, who is going to bother to create unique intellectual property if it can be stolen without attribution/payment.??

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 15:23 | 2093526 blunderdog
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It seems like there's some kind of really serious (and irresolvable) conflict of interest between the IP holders and the audience, but this is primarily a result of the current legislation to distort price signals.

If the market determines pricing, there won't be a problem.  This just means that IP holders won't be able to demand a premium on the product above and beyond the level that current technology makes necessary.

It could be that actors and authors and musicians are overpaid.

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