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Guest Post: You Can't Fool Mother Nature For Long: Profiting from Sickcare

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Submitted by Charles Hugh Smith from Of Two Minds

You Can't Fool Mother Nature For Long: Profiting from Sickcare

Sickcare, the fast-food/packaged food industries, the entertainment industry and the Marketing/Mainstream Media complex are all facets of one system.

In America, the implicit belief system promoted by marketing is that you can eat anything you want in whatever quantity you want, and if anything goes wrong with your body or mind, there is a pill or procedure to fix it. In other words, your diet and fitness level is given lip service, but what really counts is access to all the medications that are constantly touted and pushed by the Marketing/Mainstream Media complex.

It would be comical if it wasn't so tragic: if you've seen one advert pushing a med, you've seen them all: the description of the disorder, the fear and pain it inflicts, the solution in a pill, and then a voice-over, spoken at a manic pace to fit all the possible side-effects in the waning moments of a 60-second spot: suicidal thoughts, symptoms of heart attack, heart attack, itchy skin, dizziness, bizarre dreams, and on and on. Good golly, all these side-effects from one med? What happens when they're combined with 7 or 8 or 11 other meds with their own swarms of nasty side effects?

The core of sickcare is this: creating and treating illness is highly profitable. For creating illness, we have the packaged food, Big Food and fast food industries. Does anyone seriously believe that human beings can function healthily for decades on a diet of sugar water, fried potatoes, white-bread buns and fat-larded hamburgers?

Large family gatherings during the holidays are often interesting opportunities to witness the consequences of corporate brainwashing via the Marketing/Mainstream Media complex. For example, I heard more than once that So-and-So dislikes fish and vegetables, and only like burgers and fries or equivalents such as hamburger "steak."

In a surreal divergence of entertainment and reality, our society broadcasts popular food shows in which chefs routinely assemble impossibly complex dishes while our schools produce students who cannot identify a healthy home-cooked meal, much less actually prepare one.

In a similar fashion, fitness has been marginalized in much of American education; in our rush to raise math and science to "must haves," we have neglected finance and the science of nutrition and fitness--applications of math and science that really count.

In fitness, another surreal divergence has opened between the entertainment provided by "extreme sports" touting superhuman endurance and daring, and the average American's ability and desire to run a mile (or even a kilometer). We have been brainwashed into a nation of spectator/consumers who know very little about living a nutritious and fit life. We are content to watch extreme sports training on TV but are averse to becoming even marginally fit ourselves.

Preparing programming and food for spectator/consumers is highly profitable; teaching people how to prepare healthy meals at home and becoming fit on their own is not.

The food industry is the tangible analog of the entertainment industry. Both have access to reams of data about what activates the reward centers of the human brain--what tastes, sights and smells bypass the conscious mind and go directly to the primitive brain centers that control appetite and response to high-value, rare-in-Nature triggers such as sugar, fat and salt.

Fast food and packaged food are specifically engineered to trigger these reward centers. No wonder they "taste good"--they are super-saturated with tastes that are sparing and rare in natural food.

In a similar fashion, newscasters speak with an unnatural urgency and tone that we instinctively respond to as evidence of danger or threat.

The entire sickcare system that includes the food/diet industries and "entertainment" is engineered to maximize profit by triggering instincts wired to reward sensitivity to danger/threat and sugar, fat and salt. In addition to these instinctive triggers, corporate cartels and their handmaidens, the Marketing/Mainstream Media complex, have actively embedded the craving for sugar, salt, fat and "excitement" (of the profitable, corporate kind) in American culture. Consumption of these triggers is viewed as "cool," "hip," "elite" activities, or as culturally sanctioned expressions of self-reward, i.e. of "treating yourself because you deserve it" and self-indulgence, i.e. spontaneity as instant gratification.

Then there's over-treatment. If we test 1,000 people for cancer and treat 50 and end up with one person who received treatment that extended their life while 49 others suffered early deaths or negative consequences of needless treatment, then American sickcare calls it good.

Those statistics come from studies of treatment of prostate cancer, as detailed in a Scientific American report (February 2012 issue): The Great Prostate Debate: Evidence shows that screening does more harm than good. (Subscription required, or find the issue at a library)

These are difficult issues in any caregiving system, but the downside of overtreatment and overtesting is rarely addressed in American sickcare because somebody's making big money from administering the tests and treatment, and from suing anyone who "withholds" treatment-- even if the treatment helps one in a thousand and demonstrably harms 49 others.

Mother Nature cannot be fooled for long. A sedentary lifestyle and a diet heavy with sugar, empty carbs, salt and unhealthy fats derived from factory-farm animals cannot sustain a human body selected for an omnivorous, active hunting-gathering lifestyle. Health is simply impossible when the body is destroyed by this sort of diet and inactive life.

Infectious diseases can be miraculously cured by a pill--an antibiotic. But cancer and other "lifestyle" diseases are not caused by single-source infections; in these diseases and chronic conditions, health is rarely restored with a pill or even a handful of pills.

How can anyone be healthy in a culture whose most powerful industries are actively and ceaselessly promoting consumption of products and "entertainments" that derange the mind and body because they are unnatural super-doses designed to "hit" natural triggers so hard that resistance is futile?

Our caregivers are tasked with "giving lifestyle advice" to their patients, each of whom gets a few moments a month at best with their doctor/nurse, and then the patient goes home and absorbs 4-8 hours a day of Marketing/Mainstream Media pushing of illness-producing consumables and a fear-based desire for an endless array of costly "magic pills" to fix all the diseases which mysteriously ail us--for what we eat and our fitness levels are never mentioned as causal factors.

There are never enough tests and treatments--more can be added every year-- and of course there can never be enough money spent on healthcare. We just need to leave enough money to consume the food and lifestyle that spawns many of the illnesses, and then we can spend the rest on treating these diseases.

Mother Nature is not amused by the destruction of her systems for profit. Sadly, it isn't the corporate cartels who suffer the consequences of what they push for profit, it's the people who absorbed the marketing and consumed the fantasy.

"Without health there is no happiness. An attention to health, then, should take the place of every other object." (Thomas Jefferson, 1787)

 

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Sun, 01/22/2012 - 19:01 | 2087127 xela2200
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Good for you. The same thing (different problem) happened to me with an old school doctor. Took a sample put it under the microscope and told me the problem. He even show me the little microbe was that causing me an infection. The fucker was swimming around all happy.

I have considered buying a microscope as a hobby. I would start by checking my blood. I don't have medical training but I think that you could probably tell some things like cholesterol.

Here is view at the effects of goji berries. The natural magical berry that is in fashion now a days. Looking at the blood effects through the microscope.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORYDNsRFWDk

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 16:54 | 2084884 trav7777
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stuff your dumbass veganism.

Humans were originally scavengers for animal protein.  Even chimps eat meat; lots of it.

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 22:37 | 2085603 pods
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It isnt about veganism, it is abot how nutrient deficient meat really is.  Sure it is great for macronutients, but stop by any Walmart on a saturday and see just how calorie deficient we are.

pods

Sun, 01/22/2012 - 01:49 | 2085910 DaveyJones
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calorie AND fashion deficient.

Sun, 01/22/2012 - 02:42 | 2085948 Oh regional Indian
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Trav, you go on being more chimp-like. 

I'll focus on evolving.

And by the way, Darwin was a paid stooge.

ori

Sun, 01/22/2012 - 05:32 | 2086090 respect the cock
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I'll bet my silver stash you'd get your vegan-ass handed to you in an arm wrestling contest...

...with a fucking diabetic 400lb woman...

Sun, 01/22/2012 - 17:27 | 2087006 ToNYC
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Nothing personal, but are you Broadway Danny Rose?

Sun, 01/22/2012 - 12:51 | 2086534 pan-the-ist
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It doesn't matter if darwin was a paid stoog.  How do you explain species changing over time - it doesn't really matter because it is accepted as fact.  There are theories about how it happens, but that doen't change the fact.. does it?

BTW, you should start offering Blow-Jobs with your petty complements to people who don't know any better to keep their support, now that's evolution.

Sun, 01/22/2012 - 13:24 | 2086578 Oh regional Indian
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Wow Pan, momma gave you shit-sandwich again this ,morning? Brush your teeth in the WC?

Cheer up man, dirfferentiation is the key to species survival.

You can go hug TRAV now.

ori

Sun, 01/22/2012 - 23:48 | 2087551 pan-the-ist
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Indeed - and that's what's gives America its advantage over other homogeneous cultures.

Sun, 01/22/2012 - 17:21 | 2086996 Tegrat
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agree that all the "junk science" on food, like global warking, is yet another attempt to make you just as miserable as the next comerade peasant. We were designed by our Creator to eat just about anything.  Slow moving cows were, imo, put on this earth to provide milk and protein to us. Just like everything - in moderation. I have seen vegan/health food nuts die, get sick die early. Surprise with so many who have not bought into the matrix here has bought into this avoid any food that's enjoyable fad. Eating can be very enjoyable here in the US but dont make it your frigging entertainment center for living or you will die from obesity related diseases...

 

Sun, 01/22/2012 - 23:49 | 2087554 pan-the-ist
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Lol, did God put people like me on earth to make fun of stupid people like you?

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 17:40 | 2084989 jeffgroove102
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Interesting post. I personally have been amazed at what juicing and even having green smoothies can do for ones health and they taste good. When the live nutrients are being consumed, you can instantly tell a difference.

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 21:01 | 2085396 Kiwi Pete
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+ 100 for green smoothies. I've been making them for over a year now nearly every morning for breakfast. Fantastic! No afternoon loss of energy, feel geat, need less sleep. Actually makes me feel a bit high.

Take some raw green leafy vegetables (e.g. spinach, silverbeet, bok choi) and whizz up with some fruit (e.g. apple, pear, banana) and some berries if you have them.  Should be the consistency or a thick shake. Delicious!!!

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 22:40 | 2085610 pods
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I have a half a pound of spinach every morning for breakfast.  And a cup of blueberries, an apple, banana, mango, pear, handful of mushrooms, and a half cup of flax seeds.  Toss em in the Vitamix and you have a potent smoothie.

More nutrients by 7 am then most get in a week.

Vitamix was the best investment I have ever made.  Well, besides Mrs. pods.

pods

Sun, 01/22/2012 - 01:50 | 2085911 DaveyJones
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smartman.

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 17:43 | 2084992 Gohn Galt
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I agree, you can't even eat rich politicians without getting sick. 

Ever since Romney's wife got MS and cured it through holistic eating, acupuncture and reflexology (a few of you naturalist and alchemist know exactly what else was used).  Either way, nobody can deny that Ann Romney ran for her life away from Massachusetts Romneycare and is now completely cured of MS.  So you might be okay.

Nobody knows better than the Romney's not to consume anything that the FDA hasn't banned.

 

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 18:11 | 2085030 Mr Kurtz
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Mr Kurtz enjoys a good steak and beer. As for an exercise regimen, he offers the following:

"Never run when you can walk, never walk when you can ride, never stand up when you can sit down, never sit when you can lie down".

 

 

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 19:03 | 2085131 bbq on whitehou...
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Mr. Kurtz is wize. But i would add never just lie down when you can sleep.

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 18:56 | 2085113 Taint Boil
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ORI

I have forward looking eyes and my front teeth are incisors. I kill things (using the forward looking eyes) and rip the meat off the bone (using the front incisors) and eat it. If or when the SHTF you’ll be safe because I won’t be coming for your veggies.

Sun, 01/22/2012 - 02:27 | 2085935 Oh regional Indian
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Interesting Taint, I have not seen too many Jungle Men like you, all ripping and shredding.

To each his own hmmm? But next time you do your leap and pounce and rip and shred thing, have someone film it. it'll be a VIRAL hit! ;-)

ori

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 19:54 | 2085232 PY-129-20
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My master in this regard is Aristoteles and the Golden Mean. I am a healthy person and I am not too overconcerned. (could die any moment of course - but that's at least a fate we all share) I know where my food and my water comes from and that's probably something most people don't know.  We Germans drink beer since we chopped off Varus head. Tacitus mentioned it in his book about the Germans. I am not even a regular beer drinker. I rarely drink beer. But I would never be concerned about this. I know the brewery very well. I even know the owner. Ever heard of the Reinheitsgebot? Beer is sacred over here. Sure, sure. Not all German breweries are good or stick to the Reinheitsgebot and only claim to do it for marketing reasons. But some still do. And we are drinking the stuff for thousands of years. So, yes. If you are not used to it or if you drink plastic beer from a Chinese vendor - don't do it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reinheitsgebot

Get familiar with your food and your water. Where does it come from? You think eating vegetables saves you? Well, ever heard of Fukushima rice? ORI - you know of Bhopal! And there are so many other places where I never want to eat anything - be it a plant or an animal. And water? Well - just let me sigh. It's hopeless to start with. Quality is good here (where I live). Is it perfect? Nope. People take too many drugs - and it stays in the water cycle. Not only drugs. Just take coffee. They tested the quality of fish in Germany - in some rivers you cannot fish (although the water quality is declared good). They are loaded with everything - from coffee to other chemicals you just don't want to even think of.

Sun, 01/22/2012 - 02:29 | 2085936 Oh regional Indian
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PY, balance and moderation in all things always is a good Mantra, period.

But one has to look around, pay attention. Just look at the water Question you brought up and then extrapolate.

ori

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 20:03 | 2085245 jekyll island
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ORI,

I got a challenge for you: Why don't you not eat for a week or two and see how the 30,000 people who die of malnutrition everyday feel, you dumbass.  Keep your vegan opinion to yourself. 

Incidentally trauma is the single largest cause of death and disability in the world, followed by malaria.  Go kiss a cow. 

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 22:58 | 2085647 Onohymagin
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Get a copy of "The China Study" by Dr Colin C Cambell of Cornell(before he was ostrasized for upsetting, Big Meat, Big Dairy, Big Corn).

Basically provides the scientific rational behind what the article is saying.

A billion years of evolution gave us a herbivore alimentry tract not a carnivore one.

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 23:55 | 2085743 pods
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The China study was very eye opening.  As was looking at the history of the USDA and our "food pyramid."

pods

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 23:20 | 2085692 zerotohero
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ORI you are so cool - if only everyone could be so open and objective. Please keep sharing your wisdom on ZH cause we can all learn something.......hopefully. Peace.

Sun, 01/22/2012 - 08:10 | 2086183 Oh regional Indian
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:-) Nice to hear you feel that way ZerotoH.

Us constant contrarians need a little hug sometimes too! 

ori

Sun, 01/22/2012 - 02:38 | 2085942 gwiss
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ORI,

 

Kidneys putting out acid is what kidneys are designed to do to keep your pH balanced.  A side effect of ANY protein metabolism is acid, regardless of where the protein comes from.  You can't survive without protein.

 

What we are not designed to eat is carbs.  Carbs are not readily available in a paleolithic diet, which is what our bodies are evolved to eat.  We are evolved to eat lots of protein and vegetables/fruits/nuts, which have a low concentration of carbs but a high concentration of vitamins/enzymes/good fats.  Lots of saturated fats.  Heck, we are made of saturated fats.  Saturated fats are what make up the membranes of our cells.

 

The reason why has to do with temperature.  Unsaturated fats are liquid at a lower temperature than saturated fats -- that's why olive oil is liquid at room temp but coconut oil is not.  Most plants live at an average of 70 degrees.  If they were made of saturated fat, they would be too stiff.  So, they use unsaturated fats.  Tropical plants, on the other hand, live at a much higher average temperature, which is why tropical plants like coconut oil and palm oil are saturated.  That's also why cold water fish like salmon and tuna have a higher concentration of the unsaturated omega 3 fats that support our anti-inflammatory cascade -- they need fats that are not too stiff at temperatures of 50 degrees.

 

So, what happens to our cell membranes if we deprive them of the saturated fat they need and instead only give them fats that are loose and floppy at our 98 degree temperatures?  Well, we have to place a whole bunch of things into the membranes to tie them together tighter to make up for the excessive floppyness.  Stuff like cholesterol.  Which is why all the big studies like Framingham actually show lower cholesterol levels with higher intake of saturated fat, because our cell membranes are being fed what they need instead of being stressed by being fed stuff ill-suited to our temperature.

 

What we are not built to eat is grains. Grains do not play well with others.  Nowhere in the life cycle of grains have they evolved to be eaten.  Many other types of plants offer fruits freely in exchange for spreading seeds, and thus their fruits are adapted to be well assimilated by those who eat them -- it's a symbiotic relationship.  Nothing in nature eats grains, because grains have a tough outer coating called phytic acid that protects the grain babies against bacteria.  Eating raw grains will deplete any organism of necessary nutrients/minerals, and many of our ancient preparation treatments of grains (fermentation, cooking) are necessary because they inactivate these nutrient blockers. Although agriculture of mostly grains did allow humans to survive a higher population concentration than hunter/gatherers, it took a toll on our bodies in that the average height decreased once societies switched to agriculture.  Agriculture is thus not an advancement -- it was instead a necessary and less desirable adaptation that allowed us to keep overbreeding and overpopulating our world.

 

Type II diabetes is actually a terminal over-stimulation of our carbohydrate metabolism system, which is not designed to see large amounts of carbs.  If you crank away at the pancreas for years, forcing it to over produce massive amounts of insulin, it eventually burns out.  Usually, this process is accelerated by obesity, which causes cells to reduce the amount of insulin receptors as they become chock full of more stored carbs than they can handle, which sets in motion a terminal game of chicken between the pancreas and cells that the cells always win.

 

Bariatric surgery is our attempt to surgically alter our bodies to fit a diet high in carbs that we are not designed to eat.

Sun, 01/22/2012 - 08:04 | 2086179 Oh regional Indian
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gwiss, awesome post/response. Thanks.

I agree with the carb thing to a point. If no one was meant to eat grains, where did they come from? No animal obviously eats raw grain.

Plus, the grain used in Ethiopia (name slips my mind) has been eaten/grown there for millenia.

I think in the grains, there are strains and there are strains (Quinoa is another great example). Basmati rice, polished by the way, is an awesome grain. Brown rice on the other hand, is terrible. But the MSM/Alt media has it all twisted.

If you see/correlate food habit changes and illness, two things leap out: Sugar and meat overconsumption. By the way, I lived in the US for over a decade and the wheat there gave me a terrible time.

Not so back home in India, why? Food allergies are rampant in western nations, mostly the US. Why?

And lastly, every one needs to look up Ghee. Just google it. Magic potion and theBEST fat you can consume.

ORI

Sun, 01/22/2012 - 11:56 | 2086420 gwiss
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ORI,

 

Grains evolved to be spread by latching onto animal fur through burrs or being spread by wind.  They are not a symbiotic organism in that they spread only by taking advantage of other organisms, not by offering something in exchange for being spread.  The amount of time that grains have been cultured for agriculture is dwarfed by the amount of time they spent evolving to their solitary existence patterns.  Agriculture was made possible by simple and usually single mutations that allowed either larger grain heads or easier separation from the grain head, these mutations achived through selective breeding by early farmers.  But, these mutations did not affect the nutritional profile, such that while the grain is larger and more accessable it is still not really good for us.  The protein, as you mention, is hard to digest as it is the same protein profile as hair. But, all grains are not identical, and some are much better suited for us than others.  Quinoa much better, wheat much worse.  Not sure why US grain would be worse for you, could be that being grown in the nutritionally depleted soil here and overdosed with macro nutrients (NPK) while deficient in most other micronutrients alters the grain protein profile?  Maybe different strains bred for maximum bulk or survivability with no attention paid to effect on human guts?

 

Ghee is fantastic -- saturated fat plus all the good immune system support that butter provides.

 

We would do well to pay attention to the dietary patterns of other cultures who have survived and thrived for thousands of years like India.  I suspect that humans have several different nutritional profiles in that some are well adapted to meat and are actually unhealthy unless it is included in their diet,  while others are better adapted to plant only nutrition.  If our research wasn't so jacked up by the medical mafia system, we probably would have figured this out by now.

Food allergies?  No proof of course, but I would look towards a combination of too many kids with irritated immune systems from vaccinations, who started out eating soy formula devoid of healthy fats instead of breast milk, who were given way too many antibiotics early in life and thus wiped out healthy and symbiotic gut flora.  This results in kids with an irritated intestinal lining that allows larger food particles to leak into the bloodstream than should, which are recognized as invaders by the immune system.  Hence, allergies to things that are not invaders.

We in the west have attempted to apply an industrial revolution mindset to our food with disastrous consequences.  Few in our society eat much real food any more -- it is all manufactured food.  We eat manufactured food, live in manufactured light, use manufactured money to buy stuff in our manufactured economy.  They are all plastic copies devoid of any real substance. Sugar is manufactured calories, devoid of any nutrients.

 

I don't think meat is the real problem.  I think the real problem is our top down approach to society.  If we would let society, agriculture, and cooking organize itself from the bottom up organically, it would be stable and healthy. But, that would required allowing some people the consequences of their choices.  You eat poorly, you get fat and diabetic with all their attendant complications, have unhealthy children, and die early.  Nature would sort itself out if we left it alone. 

 

But, this takes a certain hard heartedness and willingness to open our eyes and see reality that is lacking today in our society that has grown soft through excessive protection from reality. One of the worst things to happen to the human race is that we outsmarted all our predators, and thus have no pressures that keep us paying attention to reality.

Sun, 01/22/2012 - 13:21 | 2086572 Oh regional Indian
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gwiss, thanks again. very in-formational. And yes, Ghee needs to be really widely popularized. Magical properties.

But overall, as DJ points out below, permaculture, as a philosophy in every fractal part of our lives, is/can be a way out of this.

At least for those who live it.

And I do think meat AS IT IS NOW is a problem. Animals are connected. Seriously connected. The lslaughter of millions of them, millions and millions, every day....it's just done. Look at H1NI and CJD and the problems caused by RBGH, other antibiotics...on and on and on.

At this tipping point, I feel we have over-done meat, literally and figuratively.

It's okay to ponder vegetarianism, overall or highly highly reduced consumption. 

thanks again for your thoughtful and informative posts.

ori

Sun, 01/22/2012 - 11:41 | 2086414 DaveyJones
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nice post. Most permaculturists have come to similar conclusions. Ironically, the carb diet is the most work, the one that requires huge amounts of oil inputs and has become huge mono crops. The diet we evolved on can be obtained with perennials, has more nutritional variety and strength and takes tremendously less labor. Archeologists have also seen evidence that "modern agriculture" reduced our life expectancy. Check out Toby Hemenway's lecture

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nLKHYHmPbo

Sun, 01/22/2012 - 04:24 | 2086012 dolly madison
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I don't know.  I don't eat much meat anymore, and I am ending up anemic and low in B12, so it's not working really great for me.  As a female though, I do need more iron than men, and females don't tend to have any heart problems until after menopause, so perhaps young females just need more meat.

I will try the ph test though.

Sun, 01/22/2012 - 05:00 | 2086048 Oh regional Indian
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Dolly, lot's of dis-information abounds regarding food. And given how many people are sick/ill/dis-eased, most of it must be wrong, ne?

And I hope you are not doing estrogen replacement therapy.

Try this site: http://magnesiumforlife.com/

Hope it helps. Lot's of magic available in nature.

ori

Sun, 01/22/2012 - 11:44 | 2086418 DaveyJones
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beets

Sun, 01/22/2012 - 04:24 | 2086013 dolly madison
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I don't know.  I don't eat much meat anymore, and I am ending up anemic and low in B12, so it's not working really great for me.  As a female though, I do need more iron than men, and females don't tend to have any heart problems until after menopause, so perhaps young females just need more meat.

I will try the ph test though.

Sun, 01/22/2012 - 09:21 | 2086245 Waterfallsparkles
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Dolly,

Try some Chicken Liver, Grits or Cream of Wheat.  I think Oatmeal too. Great sources of Iron.

Sun, 01/22/2012 - 15:02 | 2086750 WillyGroper
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 ORI & John39, cafo operations should be illegal. They're nasty. I've been buying local straight from the farmer grass fed animal protein. The taste difference is incomperable, just like my grandparents used to slaughter with no hormones or antibiotics. An acidic body can be caused by eating too much animal protein. One very simple cost effective way to alkalanize the body is by drinking water with baking soda or a simple alka-seltzer at bedtime every night. Up your citrus intake which is metabolized alkaline. Eat no more animal protein than the size of a deck of cards. Cuck Forporate Food.

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 14:38 | 2084416 RiverRoad
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In Denmark it has been illegal for a number of years to sell any food item in a grocery store that contains transfats in any quantity.  So my question is:  just what does the "F" in FDA stand for?

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 16:54 | 2084882 DaveyJones
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 friends of the GMOs, 

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 20:30 | 2085315 Cathartes Aura
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FUDtm

as in, a trademarked substance, corporate owned.  like the nationstate, amrkatm

 

Sun, 01/22/2012 - 04:27 | 2086018 dolly madison
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Yes, I find it ridiculous that there is transfats in any food anymore.  Transfats are not food. 

I personally avoid all additives.  I make almost all our foods from scratch to avoid them.  There are a very few processed foods I buy that have very short ingredient lists with no additives.  Honestly, I think not enough fuss is made over the additives.  I think they are what is inflaming our arteries.

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 16:56 | 2084888 Whiner
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Right on Dead. If you can't lick 'em, join 'em. Invest in addictive behaviors, esp., in recessionary environment: MCD, MO etc

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 15:17 | 2084566 granolageek
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It was their parents. The GI generation was 12-ish in 1932. The silent generation wasn't even born yet.

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 13:12 | 2084219 augie
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"Reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled."

the evidence is, and always has been all around you. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyPzGUsYyKM

 

 

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 13:28 | 2084261 SumSUN
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I usually don't click on links with no explanation to them, but thanks for this one!  This documentary is right up my alley.

Sun, 01/22/2012 - 11:47 | 2086426 memyselfiu
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'The Trap' is also a fascinating documentary by Adam Curtis

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZt2HhFXB3M

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 14:08 | 2084252 The Deleuzian
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When Humanity looks 'Rearview mirror' in 200 years...It will be synonymous with 'leech suckery' and 'magic chants'.........

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 14:21 | 2084402 Gully Foyle
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"The entire sickcare system that includes the food/diet industries and "entertainment" is engineered to maximize profit by triggering instincts wired to reward sensitivity to danger/threat and sugar, fat and salt. In addition to these instinctive triggers, corporate cartels and their handmaidens, the Marketing/Mainstream Media complex, have actively embedded the craving for sugar, salt, fat and "excitement" (of the profitable, corporate kind) in American culture. Consumption of these triggers is viewed as "cool," "hip," "elite" activities, or as culturally sanctioned expressions of self-reward, i.e. of "treating yourself because you deserve it" and self-indulgence, i.e. spontaneity as instant gratification."

 

AND THAT IS BULLSHIT!

Sickcare is based upon NOT curing disease. It's much more profitable to treat Cancer or AIDS than cure. It is much more profitable to CREATE an artificial need, ADD, and pump out pills for the rest of a childs life.

It is much more PROFITABLE to con adults with Cholesterol fears and pump them full of Statins whicch cause much more harm.

http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1860289_18598...

Statins: Grade-School Kids On a Middle-Age Drug

With obesity rates among youngsters remaining high, the American Academy of Pediatrics took a drastic step by recommending cholesterol-testing for kids as young as 2. The move is targeted at children whose families have a history of elevated cholesterol and who might benefit from cholesterol-lowering drugs known as statins. Some doctors view the move as a defense against the possibility of a generation of unhealthy kids living shorter lives than their parents did. Others worry that the policy could expand the use of statins to kids without giving them the chance to make tough changes in the behaviors that led to their weight and cholesterol problems in the first place.

http://naturalsociety.com/scientists-say-delay-breastfeeding-to-improve-...

Scientists Say Delay Breastfeeding to ‘Improve’ Vaccine Potency

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=its-time-to-end-the-war...

It's Time to End the War on Salt

The zealous drive by politicians to limit our salt intake has little basis in science

http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/11/08/twinkie.diet.professor/index.html

Twinkie diet helps nutrition professor lose 27 pounds

For a class project, Haub limited himself to less than 1,800 calories a day. A man of Haub's pre-dieting size usually consumes about 2,600 calories daily. So he followed a basic principle of weight loss: He consumed significantly fewer calories than he burned.

His body mass index went from 28.8, considered overweight, to 24.9, which is normal. He now weighs 174 pounds.

But you might expect other indicators of health would have suffered. Not so.

Haub's "bad" cholesterol, or LDL, dropped 20 percent and his "good" cholesterol, or HDL, increased by 20 percent. He reduced the level of triglycerides, which are a form of fat, by 39 percent.

"That's where the head scratching comes," Haub said. "What does that mean? Does that mean I'm healthier? Or does it mean how we define health from a biology standpoint, that we're missing something?"

http://tamunews.tamu.edu/2011/05/04/%E2%80%98bad%E2%80%99-cholesterol-no...

‘Bad’ Cholesterol Not As Bad As People Think, Shows Texas A&M Study

COLLEGE STATION, May 4, 2011 – The so-called “bad cholesterol” – low-density lipoprotein   commonly called LDL – may not be so bad after all, shows a Texas A&M University study that casts new light on the cholesterol debate, particularly among adults who exercise.

Steve Riechman, a researcher in the Department of Health and Kinesiology, says the study reveals that LDL is not the evil Darth Vader of health it has been made out to be in recent years and that new attitudes need to be adopted in regards to the substance.  His work, with help from colleagues from the University of Pittsburgh, Kent State University, the Johns Hopkins Weight Management Center and the Northern Ontario School of Medicine, is published in the Journal of Gerontology.

Riechman and colleagues examined 52 adults from ages to 60 to 69 who were in generally good health but not physically active, and none of them were participating in a training program.  The study showed that after fairly vigorous workouts, participants who had gained the most muscle mass also had the highest levels of LDL (bad) cholesterol, “a very unexpected result and one that surprised us.

https://internationalguy.wordpress.com/2011/12/07/cholesterol-not-so-bad...

Cholesterol not so bad after all

Moreover, as we reported last year, people with high cholesterol live the longest. Dr. Harlan Krumholz of Yale’s Department of Cardiovascular Medicine found that old people with low cholesterol died twice as often from a heart attack as did old people with high cholesterol. Many studies have found that low cholesterol is in one respect or another worse than high cholesterol. A review of nineteen large studies of more than 68,000 deaths by the Division of Epidemiology at the University of Minnesota found that low cholesterol predicted an increased risk of dying from gastrointestinal and respiratory diseases.

 

Dr. Melik: This morning for breakfast he requested something called "wheat germ, organic honey and tiger's milk."
Dr. Aragon: [chuckling] Oh, yes. Those are the charmed substances that some years ago were thought to contain life-preserving properties.
Dr. Melik: You mean there was no deep fat? No steak or cream pies or... hot fudge?
Dr. Aragon: Those were thought to be unhealthy... precisely the opposite of what we now know to be true.
Dr. Melik: Incredible.

Sun, 01/22/2012 - 00:04 | 2085757 dollarcoaster
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I stopped worrying. I just raised my body pH... end of worries! 

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 13:00 | 2084198 narnia
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Are you suggesting people should have an incentive to live a healthy lifestyle and not externalize the costs if they don't? You must be one of those crazy libertarians.

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 13:23 | 2084244 goldfish1
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The core of sickcare is this: creating and treating illness is highly profitable.

The cure: Fresh wholesome non-gmo food, homegrown if possible.

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 13:31 | 2084269 cossack55
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Oh, and avoid the flouride water at all costs.

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 14:18 | 2084393 The Deleuzian
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Restless Leg Syndrome or "RLS" was the one for me!!!!  Go for a walk or buy a bike for God sakes!!!

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 14:00 | 2084356 DaveyJones
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"Food Matters" is an excellent documentary on nutrition and the modern healthcare system and how those worlds violently conflict. You can find the whole piece on youtube

 

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFRw3mOatok&feature=player_embedded 

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 19:55 | 2085235 Waterfallsparkles
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Great video thanks.

Sun, 01/22/2012 - 01:54 | 2085636 DaveyJones
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glad you like it. notice how the doctors who criticize the standard unsuccessful cancer treatment methods are outcasts. This is where I found out about Gerson. Nutrition as the prevention AND cure for most illness makes a lot of common sense. Raw food is another basic concept.  

Sun, 01/22/2012 - 09:30 | 2086255 Waterfallsparkles
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I agree.  When you think about how they treat Cancer with Radiation and Chemo, it really makes you wonder if they are trying to cure you or help to kill you.  Yes, you may get another 6 months but at what cost, not just financial but to the quality of life you have left.  You end up feeling sick, throwing up, losing your hair and going to the Hospital almost every day. 

As you said when you go to the Doctor they never try to help you change your diet to help improve you condition.  They just try to treat the symptoms.

Mon, 01/23/2012 - 22:23 | 2091169 geekgrrl
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I hear you. My dad was diagnosed with prostate cancer and he elected to have radiation treatment. I looked up the data, and the expected lifetime after treatment was 5 years, but the expected lifetime after no treatment was 4 to 20 years, suggesting the treatment was a death sentence.

Mon, 01/23/2012 - 23:50 | 2091344 DaveyJones
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is he gone or still with us?

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 00:18 | 2091390 geekgrrl
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It's only been 1.5 years since treatment, but I have a feeling I'll be saying goodbye sooner rather than later. :-(

Sun, 01/22/2012 - 00:15 | 2085780 geekgrrl
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Thanks from me too. I heard a few new things that explain long-standing questions in my mind.

Sun, 01/22/2012 - 01:54 | 2085915 DaveyJones
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Welcome. It's sick how cheaply we (and an uncorrupt government) could increase our "health."

Sun, 01/22/2012 - 02:25 | 2085934 Oh regional Indian
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DJ, you rock. And it's okay, you don't have to return compliment.

Funny and spot on!

ori

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 14:11 | 2084380 tired1
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This situation makes sense when you look at who runs the medical establishment, big pharma, the ad agencies. If you feel like a creature that's being raised to be consumed - it's because you are.

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 13:03 | 2084203 DarkAgeAhead
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Hey Charles, I'm definitely with you on this stuff.  But when you talk about not fooling Mother Nature, you have to articulate the actual connection to Nature!

 

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 13:12 | 2084221 DeltaDawn
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He did make the connection. Stuff stops functioning properly in your body without proper inputs.  

When my kids won't eat healthy I point to our dog (who looked like hell from a cheap dogfood diet when we got him from the pound and turned into a picture of health when we fed him highend dogfood) and tell them I will put him back on junkfood for a year to see what happens. 

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 13:29 | 2084264 goldfish1
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A few years back I learned how to make beef barley soup from soup bone. Not only is it delish served with buttered crusty bread, but you feel good after you eat it.

I like what these people have to say about health:

www.westonaprice.org

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 16:38 | 2084836 Waterfallsparkles
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I love home made soup.  I make beef barley with beef left over from a rhoast.  I make a great been soup or split pea soup from the ham bone.  I also like turkey dumplin soup from left over turkey bones.

Most of the soups include sliced carrots, celery, onion and the bean soup tomatoes.

Served with a nice silce of buttered french bread.  Yum.

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 18:40 | 2085086 Hulk
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My favorite is Rhump Rhoast!

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 18:57 | 2085117 Mr Kurtz
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myself, I am rather partial to rump fed runyon.

Sun, 01/22/2012 - 09:34 | 2086261 Waterfallsparkles
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Hulk,

Rump Roast is my favorte too.  Do not see it as often as the top and bottom round but the Rump Roast is the best and very tender.

Sun, 01/22/2012 - 09:36 | 2086262 Waterfallsparkles
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My biggest problem is that when I make a big pot of soup I end up eating it for a week and a half.  I really need to learn how to can some of it.

Sun, 01/22/2012 - 11:48 | 2086427 Hulk
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Canning is the easy part, ask a neighbor or watch a utube video. Word of warning on canning meat, it must be pressure cooked before canning or it will spoil, at least at our altitude of 1500 ft. Boiling in insufficient...

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 13:07 | 2084209 Savvy
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Speaking of creating and treating illness....

 

An article published by the American Medical Association’s Virtual Mentor journal advocates making participation in vaccine trials mandatory, arguing that people should be forced to take experimental shots in a similar vein to how jury service is compulsory.

http://www.infowars.com/ama-make-participation-in-vaccine-trials-mandatory/

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 13:09 | 2084211 Hedgetard55
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Where is the pill that cures the mental disorder with a death wish attached known as liberalism/progressivism/Keynesianism?

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 20:05 | 2085252 jekyll island
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Cyanide.

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 21:39 | 2084213 ToNYC
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Hundreds of chemical reactions going off in your body every minute, each one depending on an input of certain molecules of appropriate reactivity. Foreign substances interfere with natural molecules reactivity. Busy kidneys, busy liver; how to digest the styrofoam like we "feed" the shore birds? It's just so simple that man makes only hammers to prove nails move this or that (WOW!)  but care less what the rest of the nail pierces. Can't get sued if you prescribe what passes as standard of care, and you can go out of business not prescribing. It works for Social Security to cancel out the sooner, the better. Plan accordingly to be moving along. Mother Nature says eat your vegetables and fruits and nuts; not a lot of food-poisoning from what grows rather than industrially-killed, kept-animal flesh.

What pathogens that exist in animal cells and like human flesh find no vector or home in a body that maximized good bacteria like kefir and yogurt, and minimizes the animal pathogen colonies that can make for interesting discussions at autopsies. That the 80% have no idea is a good place to start by examining the di-ate and the dis-ease.

 

 

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 13:08 | 2084214 Goatboy
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LOL This was a true discovery xD

Our "economy" rarely solves problems but its bent on servicing them.. partly because everyone has to earn an income in a world which long ago outgrown our "economic theory". What a disgusting joke of a theory, both "austrian" and "mainstream" (corporate and state capitalism included).

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 13:16 | 2084225 AnAnonymous
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LOL This was a true discovery xD

Our "economy" rarely solves problems but its bent on servicing them.. partly because everyone has to earn an income in a world which long ago outgrown our "economic theory". What a disgusting joke of a theory, both "austrian" and "mainstream" (corporate and state capitalism included).

////////////////////////////////////////////////////

Classic.

US citizens tend to grow aware of the dark sides of US citizenism when they are subjected to those sides. Before that, it is all rosy.

The long sequence of articles is great fun: "I am 90 and Im discovering US citizenism..."

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 13:38 | 2084296 Goatboy
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What is "US citizenism"? I am not from those parts of the globe.

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 14:12 | 2084381 AnAnonymous
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Americanism.

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 13:25 | 2084220 hedgeless_horseman
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33.8% U.S. adults and 17% of children are obese.

15%+ of all people in the U.S utilize the Supplemental Nutritional Assistance Program (SNAP)

Problem?  What problem?

Has anyone seen the Surgeon General in the last two years?

Her job is to make healthcare policy for the nation.

 ***MISSING***

DR. REGINA BENJAMIN 

 LAST SEEN WITH ERIC HOLDER

IF FOUND, PLEASE CALL

THE WHITE HOUSE

(202) 456-1414

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 13:33 | 2084273 cossack55
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I hear she be hangin' at the closest Paula Deene's.

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 14:24 | 2084409 francis_sawyer
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I saw her at McDonald's this week (along with FLOTUS)... They both asked me if I was 'going to finish my fries' or not...

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 14:44 | 2084459 Clinteastwood
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From Wikipedia:


'In January 2010, Dr. Benjamin released her first document, entitled "The Surgeon General’s Vision for a Healthy and Fit Nation." In it she highlighted the alarming trend of overweight and obese Americans, and offered a blueprint for grassroots efforts to make changes.........'

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 16:59 | 2084895 DaveyJones
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At least she's consistent with the rest of our "leaders" doing the exact opposite of what they preach, pretend, and promise.  

Sun, 01/22/2012 - 00:01 | 2085752 pods
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Oh they can make all the changes they want, as long as it does not get in the way of amerikans eating more meat, milk, corn, potatoes and everything that is spawned from it.

pods

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 20:09 | 2085257 jekyll island
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Damn right!  Why should we worry about what we eat?  With more bariatric surgeons around, the cost of laparascopic gastric bypass is dropping.  I saw a billboard advertisement for lap bands for $9,999.  The price is now below $10K.  10 years ago it was $25K.  Who said the price of medicine just keeps going up? 

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 13:38 | 2084299 Raymond Reason
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Wow, now she looks like the picture of health. 

And this is the supreme irony.  They have made it illegal now, in my city, to smoke within a certain distance of building entrances.  I believe they have outlawed smoking in public parks.  On yes, we are so worried about our collective health, we Americans are.   But go ahead and eat processed and fast food, and drink soda pop to your hearts content.   I have no problem with people eating shit food, but don't tell me not to smoke in a park, you hypocritical bastards. 

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 14:42 | 2084453 respect the cock
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Sounds like Seattle.

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 17:02 | 2084905 DaveyJones
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Just how many calories in a venti mocha?

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 17:16 | 2084939 Max Hunter
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 but don't tell me not to smoke in a park, you hypocritical bastards. 

Of course.  People don't go to a park for fresh air or anything like that.. I see you are "that" guy..  Nah.. you're right.. We are just pretending that it's a horrible smell and chokes the air out of us..

Sun, 01/22/2012 - 17:17 | 2086985 ToNYC
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Fresh Air doesn't matter to a smoker or they wouldn't be sticking burning tar on the last mile to their once not-so-tar-fire blasted lung tissue.

People bring big dogs to compete with shore birds feeding in the tidal zone. Sleep Walking is Not A Crime. Some species need iron bars in their zoo to keep the peace and wake the losers.

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 13:15 | 2084224 mr. mirbach
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Google Codex Alimentarius. Then look at the Food Safety Modernization Act.  TPTB are intent on reducing the population.

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 13:33 | 2084277 cossack55
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Georgia Guidestones.

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 13:47 | 2084317 john39
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NWO herd managment.  get your vaccinations doncha know....   works great to fleece any wealth the old timers might have left before they die too.

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 13:17 | 2084229 EyesWise Shut
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Great article. And each of us holds his "healt" destiny (mental and physical) in his hands even though healthy food is more expensive then the "big company crap"but at least running is cheap. Go for it.

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 13:20 | 2084231 bob_dabolina
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Those side-effects get me rolling everytime. Especially the ones for Chantix. By the time I'm done hearing the side effects I'm ready for a cig. 

This is an actual Chantix commerical, I remember seeing it on t.v. It's so funny and they're all like this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hp_y0wDFz0

I'd rather have cig than deal with all that bullshit. Someone needs to do a follow-up to see if that guy has killed himself yet.

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 13:32 | 2084270 goldfish1
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Side effects may include death.

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 13:55 | 2084346 bill1102inf
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You do know the side effects for asparin and tylenol right? The worst their is, up to and including 'death', because they are forced to put those lies on their by the FDA. 'Death' will occur in .00001% of the population. And the side effects include what happens if you are allergic to it, or overdose.  It is dose dependent. 2 Tylenols = No headaches, 2000 Tylenols most likely = Dead.  Moderation does not work as well when your slamming back 2000 calorie McMeals though over the long term.

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 15:36 | 2084641 geekgrrl
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2000 Tylenols=definitely dead. Tylenol overdose is actually a fairly common form of suicide because the toxic dose is not all that much higher than the therapeutic dose. I'm amazed they sell the stuff OTC.

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 20:14 | 2085270 jekyll island
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Actually it isn't.  It is a fairly common type of suicide attempt, but death is caused by liver failure which is slow and painful.  Many people recover because you can knock off 90% of all hepatic cells and the liver can still recover.  Using a gun is one of the most common, but have to place barrel in your mouth, aiming at brainstem, otherwise the blast can tilt you head back and the projectile will exit through the sinuses or eye, missing the brain.  Cyanide is most effective, death occurs within minutes.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 00:46 | 2091441 geekgrrl
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Are you kidding me? Take 2000 Tylenols and we'll see if you post again. This is crazy talk. Very few people take 2000 Tylenols, so while your point may be true that a gun is more effective, I challenge you to produce a single example, a single case study, where a dose of 2000 Tylenols didn't result in death.

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 14:28 | 2084415 francis_sawyer
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Warning: "May cause sudden, violent, convulsive, agonizing, & painful death... But it will cure your snivels"...

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 14:35 | 2084434 RiverRoad
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I guess that's why none of us is getting out of here alive.

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 16:17 | 2084776 OneLessZombie
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A friend of mine, now deceased said "Good health is the slowest possible form of DEATH" and "We dig our own graves with a fork"

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 15:46 | 2084680 my puppy for prez
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All side effect disclosures seem to end in that one....hmmm....

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 13:22 | 2084242 847328_3527
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My health insurance premiums soared 38% since Obamacare. My health insurer tells me,"you need to pay for Obamacare people." It's going up again this year.

Soon I will be forced to go on Obamacare too.

 

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 13:39 | 2084293 HungrySeagull
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We canceled ours.

Our employers did too.

Congress is not going to tell me or anyone what to buy and what not to buy.

Some time ago I slashed my hand by accident. I stayed home and used the availible tools in the trauma bag to fix it. I saved myself a 700 dollar ER visit with at least a 300 dollar billing for doctor, meds, supplies, lab etc etc etc.

Sure there is some damage left in the nerves but I don't give a damn at my age. I have already cheated death several times. You cannot in your wildest dreams of fantasy imagine the situation that leads towards your own death. Each sitaution was quite a surprise.

Health care is finished as it stands. I had a MRI once and discovered a 16,000 dollar billing for it.

Never again. No body tells me what this shit costs as they do the referrals for it.

Now, the last time I had to go to the ER because my body was malfunctioing they fixed it and I adjusted my diet slightly. All is well now.

No fast food, no junk and very little sweets. I still hang on to the Coffee though.

I am going to leave this life one of three ways. A bullet, A IV system in hospice or pallative care as they pull the plug the week or day I am diagnosed with something really bad.

I am not going to burden my spouse. When it's time, it's time.

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 15:08 | 2084543 grid-b-gone
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I made a similar choice, Seagull. I still cover the family, though.

And what did I discover?

My cash cost of prescriptions is roughly equal to the deductible I was paying.

As a cash patient, they are happy to charge me for services without the markup for insurance administrative fees.

As a cash patient, my doctor and I agree on procedures I really need, not ones that need to appear on paperwork sent to the insurance company.

Like you, I may someday need to make the tough decision to leave more assets to my family rather than eek out more time on earth. The price of Libertarian choices reside with the individual, as they should.

My parents paid my Blue Cross for about 20 years. My employers and I split my health care premium for another 30 years. After paying for health insurance for 50 years with no significant claims, the insurance company does not want to risk giving back all those decades of nearly pure profit.

Fine. I'll hold onto that profit. My personal premium has been zero for two years. They can call me when they have a better offer.

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 15:59 | 2084734 Waterfallsparkles
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I went without Health Insurance for over 15 years.  I did not bother me.  I paid out of pocket for any treatement that I received.  Now, I am on Medicare and have Health Insurance premiums for the first time but hey, I guess you can only fool Mother Nature so long.

The biggest problem with Health Care is that all of the healthy people that never use their coverage pay for all of the really sick people.

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 17:20 | 2084930 DaveyJones
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My provider gave me the same bullshit paragraph in their 20% increase letter. Blue Shield. I put it up at work, where most of us are solo pracitioners. I call my premium my second mortgage. I have also decided to leave them but take a new policy PPO with 5K deductable. I would rather pay it out to the doctor than the same agencies who conspired with this administration to make it mandatory. Let me get this straight, everyone make a sacrifice for new health care except for the drug industry as we are not using the world market and those goddamn insurance companies. My favorite law professor who was even then about 75 said just remember this class, they're not insurance companies, they're investment companies. The system is a corrupt joke and, like banking, being consolidated into bigger and bigger entities which guarantee there is nothing like true capitalism left and our "leaders" will do anything but in our interest. At least my state's AG is part of the group bringing the constitutional challenge. But don't hold your breath, the SCOTUS lost me when they overturned 120 years of precendent and gave corporations unlimited donations and influence. Is it just me or as this place goes to hell, it's a chicken and egg thing that begs further and further corruption. History seems to bear that out and we are certainly no exception. Wow, that felt better. Alternative medicine I guess

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 21:22 | 2085446 Kiwi Pete
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Wow, $16,000 for an MRI is way too much. Here the public health will pay for it if your doctor orders one for you. If they won't order you one but you still want one (like my wife) then you have to pay for it yourself. Cost NZD1,000 or USD800. And the kicker is that our MRI machines are imported from the USA.

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 13:23 | 2084246 Inspector Bird
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Ah, there's always the conspiracy angle.  Big Food is out to make us eat too much, and Big Healthcare out to make us use more than we need.  Of course, Big Education isn't really educating us, so we have to keep coming back and spending more to learn, meanwhile feeding the coffers of all the other "Big" Cabals that exist.

 

There is an issue, and I agree with the basic premise of this article - we are sedentary and eat like crap.  But this is not because of anything a "BIG" is doing.  It's happening simply because we allow it to.  It's easy.

In life, we make choices based on 3 factors, for the most part.  Those factors are the price of something, it's quality, and how easy it is to use.

Ease of use is, usually, the thing that keeps us going back.  Bad stuff is usually easy to use and easy to do.  It's a simple choice, but a bad choice.

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 13:48 | 2084325 Raymond Reason
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The real crime is in the medical knowledge that has been suppressed.  There are therapies out there that cost pennies and actually work.  Hydrogen peroxide therapy is a proven cure for AIDS, cancer, and heart disease, among others, with no side effects.   But try buying food grade HP, its getting more and more difficult to obtain, and it will soon be illegal.  The Gerson method uses fasting with juices to cure cancer, but was forced to move their clinic to Mexico. 

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 20:53 | 2085377 Cathartes Aura
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must agree with the hydrogen peroxide therapy - used it to cure a hellish respiratory infection recently, it was the only thing that cleared my lungs for breathing. . . I used food grade, EssentialOxygen brand, because I could source it - but there's plenty of "testimonial" evidence that different grades are being used successfully.

http://www.earthclinic.com/Remedies/hydrogen_peroxide_inhalation.html

(Bill Munro rocks - he'll email folk to help them out, even now at the age of 87!)

Sun, 01/22/2012 - 00:28 | 2085799 Oh regional Indian
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!!! Indeed H2O2, magic.

Here in India, no food grade available in the open market and the stuff they do sell is in clear white plastic bottles! 

 

Store in a place away from sunlight it says the rest of the world over.

Maybe I need to become Oh Regional Expat again!

Good points all the way upthread CA.

ori

Sun, 01/22/2012 - 14:42 | 2086707 DaveyJones
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thanks for the link

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 14:31 | 2084426 DaveyJones
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"Simple" is an interesting choice of words. Food, like money, energy and just about everything else has been taken over by very big players who have taken over governments all over and who could care less about anything but profit and monopoly. Nutrition has has a lot to do with what "big" is doing. Government is "big" and they do little to to take any serious steps with GMOs unlike many other first world countries. That alone should tell you something   

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 15:30 | 2084615 Whoa Dammit
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"Nutrition has has a lot to do with what "big" is doing." +100.

Try finding any food at the grocery store that isn't full of chemicals, drugs, hormones, and pesticides. Even the "organic" stuff they sell isn't what it seems as the FDA has allowed loopholes for the big "organic" producers. And a lot of the "organics" come from China now, so how believable is that label?

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 15:43 | 2084671 my puppy for prez
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Monsanto is a BIG who uses slave labor, destroys farmers, and works through lobbying to destroy the organic, local food movement.   My family is in farming....we know who Monsanto is! 

 

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 17:29 | 2084970 DaveyJones
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I know they have some "cut throat" competition, but I have decided Monsanto is the most evil corporation in the world. bankers are stealing everything but Monsanto is taking over all food production and making it into poison and a plant that will not reporduce.  Of course they can't do this without bribing governments everywhere which then begs the competition

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 20:56 | 2085389 Cathartes Aura
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Monsanto, and the equally evil twin, Dow Chemical.

 

Exclusive: Dow seeking deregulation of GE corn resistant to 2,4-D, a major component of Agent Orange

http://www.naturalnews.com/034492_Dow_AgroScience_deregulation_2-4-D.htm...

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 15:44 | 2084672 AnAnonymous
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Marketing does exist.

Which leads to the second US citizen dimension like note

"Ease of use is, usually, the thing that keeps us going back. Bad stuff is usually easy to use and easy to do. It's a simple choice, but a bad choice."

Because good stuff is not easy to use and easy to do.

Well, going to eat in a fancy restaurant, I have the doors opened for me, coat taken off from me, the seat drawned for me, meals are served in the plate, drinks are served in the glass. Handheld all the way but the restroom, I must tell.

But hey, US citizenism is as US citizen does... So yep, the lack of ease of use is usually what put people off good things.

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 13:23 | 2084247 Yellowhoard
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Kentucky Fried Chicken is not only incredibly yummy, it moistens my lips too.

Fuck diabetes. I'll have another bucket please!

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 15:11 | 2084550 HungrySeagull
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When your bucket arrives after being thrown together by a bunch of backstabbing, rebellious and just plain intent on a felony at quitting time...

Enjoy.

I worked several months in a fish joint, a fast food place. It was essentially all batter fried in oil. It does come off the truck processed beyond recognition.

I later hauled for Red Lobster and it's parent company, the seafood that came off that truck was quite good.

Now with the Japanese Radiation issue, I have not gone to a Red Lobster lately, or any place similar.

Want to know how we handle holiday meals? We cook on sunday the dinner and so forth. By the time the packing and cooling by meals was done and stored in the ice box, there was enough for several people over 8 days.

Course in years past we ate all of it in one afternoon and laid on the couch in a daze waiting for whatever is to happen. That was not good.

 

Going to a walmart these days is a test of one's patience. It's either salt, sugar or juice.

You would think with all the unemployment people will have time to cook.

But no....

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 13:27 | 2084254 steveo
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Keep in mind that 2 or 3 kilks per day on sites that you like will add to your sense of well being and protect you from alpha and beta radiation effects.

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 13:27 | 2084256 Cheesy Bastard
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In 100 years we're all gonna be dead.  All of us.  The cemetaries are full of smug, self righteous, miserable busybodies who ran around sticking thier noses in everyone elses business.  I choose to stay healthy for the sake of my family and my own quality of life, but it's my business.

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 13:27 | 2084257 bob_dabolina
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This is an absolute must watch and it's only a minute. Makes you think twice before sticking that Mcdonalds burger in your face

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMgsoAsLVWw&feature=related

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 13:36 | 2084291 cossack55
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Damn. That makes me want to bolt to the nearest arches and supersize freakin' ASAP.

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 14:45 | 2084464 tarsubil
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That was well publicized and people still go to McDs. Bacteria loves your shit and toxic waste but turns its nose up at your McD's hamburger. How can anyone eat there anymore?

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 13:27 | 2084259 Imminent Collapse
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I am currently attending the Southern SAWG conference in for sustaining family farms. Processed food is a huge problem in America. OT - in was reading zerohedge while waiting for the start of a meting and a 24 year old kid saw me and told me that he reads ZH and he tells everyone about it. Word is getting out. ZH is extremely influential. Keep up the good work, Tylers.

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 13:38 | 2084282 Inspector Bird
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Sustainable.

Early man lived a 'sustainable' lifestyle.  He didn't live long, his life was extremely difficult, and he wasn't all that inventive.

We have the luxury of choice.  We can choose 'sustainable' or a lifestyle that is believed to be 'unsustainable'.  The funny thing is, neither is particularly good.

Life isn't about finding solutions.  It's about deciding what the trade offs are and picking the best ones which suit your lifestyle.  The problem you face is that some idiot will always be telling you that your choice is the 'evil' or 'wrong' one. 

I prefer to look at the people who make their extremist (sustainable or its alternative) and laugh.  They are self-righteous busybodies telling people how to live their lives.  As someone mentioned earlier, in 100 years most of us will be dead and joining the other busybodies who spent their lives telling us how to live.

Family farms or corporate profits - both have benefits.  It's up to what you think best suits you.

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 13:46 | 2084308 bob_dabolina
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John Adams smoked like a chimney, and grew up on a breakfast of beer and bread, he drank heavily throughout his enitre life, he also chewed tobacco. His diet was often described as poor to extremely poor.

John Adams lived to be 91

At the end of the day genes are 90% of the game.

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 13:49 | 2084323 john39
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they didn't have the same level of pollution, biowarefare germs, vaccinations, drugs, immunosuppressive garbage in foods (vit d, eat it up fools).....  you get the picture.

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 14:26 | 2084413 HD
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Smoking tobacco 200 years ago was just tobacco - not 4000 different chemicals designed to keep you hooked...

I'd wager all the meat, booze and smoking of the Colonial era would still produce a healthier 90 year old than a modern American at 65 with their high fat, salt, sugar and chemicals diet.

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 14:59 | 2084502 smiler03
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If this was the case then average life exptancy would not have risen. Ergo, you will lose your wager.

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 15:19 | 2084576 john39
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i would wager they could keep a body alive for hundreds of years now...  doesn't mean that that body is enjoying it very much...   like so many statistics these days, longevity numbers really mean nothing.

Sun, 01/22/2012 - 05:50 | 2086099 respect the cock
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I see many old people in my line of work.  Folks who would have died many years earlier, if not for the glory "modern medicine".

We call them "lizard farms".  Not a pretty sight.

I'd rather die at 70, then be incubated to live to 90.  

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 15:25 | 2084600 HD
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Medical care has improved significantly.  People died of infections and injuries we consider mostly an inconvenience now. To suggest our improved modern diet is responsible for our increased lifespan is specious at best.

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 18:23 | 2085055 smiler03
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I agree with you, most definitely. I'm sure the diet of a lot of westerners is diabolical and would not have even been available not so long ago. Refined sugar being the first thing that comes to mind.

I know innoculations are unpopular with the ZH crowd (US in general?) but smallpox eradication must have saved an uncountable number of lives.

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 17:30 | 2084971 Waterfallsparkles
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The worst part now is that they treat the paper for the cigarettes with fire retardant chemicals.   Supposed to keep home fires down.  RIGHT.  So, now smokers are ingesting the chemicals that are very toxic that are put in their furniture to keep them from burning in a fire.  Nothing like smoking polyvinal acetate polymer adhesives.  If the cigarette does not kill you the fire resistant chemicals will.

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 13:56 | 2084324 john39
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dupe

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 14:30 | 2084424 Zombies On Toast
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Yes, and John Adams was one of the lucky 10% who had the genes that could resist the effects of such a bad lifestyle. Everyone else gets sick and dies young! Genes are not destiny. A healthy lifestyle can extend your life even if you have genes which make you prone to certain conditions.

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 15:00 | 2084481 respect the cock
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My dad lives on RedHook ESB, Oreos and kettle fried potato chips.  Works 12 hour days too.

He's also 57 and runs 5 miles every day...with no major health problems.  When he does his treadmill stress test they end up shutting it off because they can't get his HR up.

Utterly baffling...and unnerving!

While I think diet does play a huge part...you're right...genetics have a role as well.

 

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 15:16 | 2084556 HungrySeagull
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One of my grand parents built war material in a plant 16 hours a day 7 days a week without fail for years and then fathered a bunch of girls to herd and corral. He turned into a very profane and bad man with a liking for cigars.

It would take 11 heart attacks to make the Life alert and ambulance company get tired for his 12th and final one while he mowed grass, an activity banned by the doctor.

Funeral was 10 minutes, Burial was in 5.

And the goddamn genes are in us, the children.

 

Oh, the basement filled with canned good since the 50's against the Cold War (It was a proper bombproof basement in those days) required two roll off trucks to haul away the suspected growth inside the cans. UGH.

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 15:31 | 2084618 HD
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I would have paid real money for the 50s era labels off those cans...

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 15:56 | 2084722 HungrySeagull
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Oh god, you know it that's right.

To this day, I am unsure how the looting occured. It was a very ... jubilant time the old fuck is dead hooray and on the other hand...

Yea, alot of history went into the landfill. Lost.

Oh well.

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