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Guest Post: You Didn’t Build That
Submitted by John Aziz of Azizonomics,
Obama:
If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help. There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you’ve got a business–you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen. The internet didn’t get invented on its own. Government research created the internet so that all the companies could make money off the internet.
Much of the blogosphere has defended Obama’s statement, along one of two lines:
- That Obama didn’t mean that business-owners didn’t build their businesses — he was talking about infrastructure creation and the wider economic, legal and political system.
- That Obama is right — and businesses owners are really not responsible for building their businesses.
Both of these arguments are nonsensical.
Economic and business growth is a complex and multi-dimensional thing, driven by the complex relationship between both supply and demand. To claim that those who put the legwork into building a business — whether that is the owners, or workers — “didn’t build” the business is totally false and absurd.
And even if Obama was talking about infrastructure and the wider economic system (which I suspect was the case) it is taxpayers who fund infrastructure creation, and the overwhelming majority of businesses and business owners (other than the bailed-out financial institutions and similar) contribute heavily to tax revenue.
Whichever way we look at it tax-paying business owners past and present — particularly small businesses, who create far more jobs than their larger corporate counter-parts — built not only their businesses, but also contributed to and funded the wider economic system and the institutions of the state.
Obama and his speechwriters ought to look more carefully at the country they desire to be elected to lead. Obama’s comments are hostile to the moral and intellectual foundations on which America has been built — the celebrated ideals of individualism and the self-made man.
As the former slave and abolitionist Frederick Douglass noted:
Self-made men are the men who, under peculiar difficulties and without the ordinary helps of favouring circumstances, have attained knowledge, usefulness, power and position and have learned from themselves the best uses to which life can be put in this world, and in the exercises of these uses to build up worthy character. In fact they are the men who are not brought up but who are obliged to come up, not only without the voluntary assistance or friendly co-operation of society, but often in open and derisive defiance of all the efforts of society and the tendency of circumstances to repress, retard and keep them down.
I wish we had a Republican Presidential candidate who acted in the spirit of Douglass.
Although Romney will outwardly claim to subscribe to Douglass’ values, his record suggests otherwise. The 2012 Presidential election is between two architects of socialised healthcare, two defenders of government bailouts, two advocates of pre-emptive warfare and indefinite detention without trial.
America, I think, still has a free spirit — although less than she once did. Yet Americans have been browbeaten by two political parties who are largely hostile to the old American ideals of individual liberty, individual responsibility, nonconformism and the frontier spirit.
Yet I am an individualist. If we as individuals are willing to accept the erosion of our liberty, we have only ourselves to blame.
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If it weren't for the looming MASS ARRESTS, this would be the nail in Obama's reelection coffin. There is nothing quite like a sharp stick in the eye to those who actually roll their sleeves up and make stuff. In any event, you'll see Obama, Brenanke, and hundreds of other top traitors in chains and orange jumpsuits, the virtual dissolution of the federal government, and a CTRL-ALT-DELETE like the world has never seen before the end of the year... http://tinyurl.com/cd5cyjo/
A good book, " The Roots of Obamas Rage" explains a lot of his socialist/anti-colonial/anti-imperial spew.
By the time November rolls around, the markets should be in the tank and Obama will be looking for a new job.
Field of Dreams:
*Ghost players seen walking toward Kevin Costner*
Shoeless Joe: You didnt build this shit, man. We're outta here.
*Kevin Costner, crying*
I gave up hope, most people are
1. too lazy
2. too stupid
3. too complacent (especially all the fucking intellectuals who think they understand economics because they can write coherent sentences)
to understand sound economic theory.
I gave up hope, most people are
1. too lazy
2. too stupid
3. too complacent (especially all the fucking intellectuals who think they understand economics because they can write coherent sentences)
to understand sound economic theory.
You can say that again!
Unfortunately, your defeatism, laziness, stupidity, and/or inability to write coherent sentences prevents *you* from helping others to understand sound economic theory.
Exactly what I thought. It is not like the Government GAVE us the infrastructure. Most of us paid dearly in Property Taxes, Gas Taxes, etc. to the Governemt for them to build it. They could have never built it themselves without the Tax Payers funding it.
Remember the story of the guy that got fined for filling the pothole in front of his house because the city wouldn't do it and he was sick of it. Government can only stand in the way of progress, to advance it needs to get out of the way.
Obomber would say you didn't build it, and you shouldn't be allowed to build it.
Speaking of the “worthless character” of this rogue government, can you top this one?
“A grieving mother told a Greenville, S.C., court in late June that she was slapped with several bills, including one to clean the street, after her son was killed by a drunk-driving illegal immigrant. Loretta Robinson told of the emotional and financial toil due to her son Justin Walker’s death. ‘I had to pay to have the vehicle towed,’ she said. ‘I had to pay for the vehicle to be removed and to clean up the street from Justin’s blood on the ground… having to open the mail and look at the charge to the deceased,’ she told the court.”
Problem is we paid for infrastructure, then government turns free lanes into toll lanes, or bridges we paid for from free to toll, and charges us again and again.
Get a freaking life folk. Da gubbmint is crushing small biz becaus that is what big biz tells them to do, and Mit'ns would do it too if so directed. The problem is that growth is gone, and the big boys have decided to smash and grab as much of society as possible. They are under the mistaken impression that they will be able to retain these things. Entropy is a cold bitch, and nobody keeps nothing, not even no monkey.
we crashin this bitch
I agree...We have resorted to the purest form of Capitalism...Stealing..
Hey Junker...What the fuck do you think Wall Street is doing? Capitalism can provide a value for value transaction or can trick you into buying something of little or no real value..The latter is called stealing..
Remember in the 80's they sold TV's out of the back of a truck in the BX and you wound up paying for a box with nothing in it? That's capitalism too...Stealing..Your going to see alot more of it also as the system eats itself to death..
Junkers' reflex to something bad about capitalism working its way to the light.
Involuntary, don't take it personally.
Don't pick a fight with a drunk.
Your right, I get a little twitchy after my second gallon of coffee.
We Crashin this bitch is right all right.
I'm not convinced Krugman's alien invasion would get enough people together in the US to tap a keg as a group let alone get behind some BIG plan of action to save themselves.
Its no wonder the wage earner and entrepaneuer alike face some dark fucking economic times.
There's no unity. We just scowl at each other in traffic or where ever pissed to the brink and if not for free porn and mass self medication, there'd be no commons left anyway.
We Crashin this bitch to the 9s.
Short solidarity, fraternity, future.
Nice pic of the bummer, looks like he had one to many Olde English.....
The Obummer only drinks Colt 45... Billy D is always invited.
looks like my neighbors when they are about to chimpout
Someone can try to teach you and someone can try to give you something, but you must choose to learn and know why you need to take it.
Only those that cheat and steal can fit the claim that they didn't build or earn what they obtained.
I guess that explains Obama and 99% of the rest of our government.
I always thought his comments were about his career. Or maybe it's because of what he did to get that pizza prize, no wait, peace prize.
With over half the population depending on some form of big brothers handouts, which is a far cry from a generation or two ago, there won't be change.
No change, until the checks stop coming and then people will realize what food and shelter is really worth.
Everyone is dependent on the USA for a handout...Lots of countries, corporations, banks and people to pacify including our own indigenous poor/middle class.
When "The people" stop getting the checks, then maybe not only will the realize what food and shelter is all about, but they may also get familiar with the pitchfork, torch and guillotine.
Does Barry mean Al Bore didn't invent the internet either?
I wish I could get paid $76,000 for each person I helped find a minimum wage job. Just sayn'
"The problems we face today are because the people who work for a living are out-numbered by those who vote for a living."
Author unknown.
Who'd want their name on such an elegant-sounding metaphor that's completely wrong?
Call "employed workers" around 90-140 million and the number of participating voters 70-132 million. In the highest turnout elections in recent history, the number of voters is smaller than the number of workers.
http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0781453.html
http://www.dlt.ri.gov/lmi/laus/us/usadj.htm
Interesting point of note. Just odd to mention it by getting it backwards. It's like ju jitsu.
" The internet didn’t get invented on its own. "
Yeah Al Gore did it</SARC>
"If you put the federal government in charge of the Sahara Desert, in five years there would be a shortage of sand." ~ Milton Friedman
critizing OBAMA using the words of a former african american slave is some seriously ju-jitsu rhetoric. genius.
if you support obama against frederick douglas, you are a racist and favor slavery. you are anti-black if you hate frederick douglas. This is precisely how a quote like this would play off on fox-news.
Maybe it's me, maybe it's how this speech fell upon my ears and I don't know about anyone else, but.... I don't like being told that I was "allowed" to thrive.
I don't like it either...But it's the truth..Just like it was in the 30's..Do you think all those people on the streets were there because they wanted to be...When you are poor, you don't start off owning your own business, you work for someone, and then maybe start your own business, that is if you live in a country that allows economic mobility...which we our country is failing at...
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/05/us/harder-for-americans-to-rise-from-l...
To my knowledge, Obama has never built or owned a business, so how the hell would he know what it takes? I have built several and do know what it takes, and I can tell you he's totally wrong. I really think he stepped on his dick with this one; certainly doesn't endear him to any entreprenuers.
"If you give an man a fish, you feed him for a day. If you teach a man to fish, you can make him buy a fishing license, a boat license, a trout stamp, a second rod license and add a the special Pittman Tax along with sales tax on anything related to fishing that he buys."
Author unknown but it sounds like something Obama would say.
Fuck You Michelle Obama..... C'mon we all know she made him say that
Yes John, you are correct, no one previously did anything prior or during our existence to help anyone...Not even the founding fathers...Their fight for "freedom", economic and otherwise didn't really mean shit...
No one owes anyone in this country for anything, even those shmucks who fought for supposed freedom against the Nazi...Yea, I could have a business like Zero Hedge flourish in Nazi Germany...
I don't like this President, but it doesn't matter, because he's not the problem, just a part of the problem, which is that he works for the elite, not the people..He sucks, but so do all of our elected puppets.
There are plenty of people to thank for what I was able to do in life, and there will be plenty of people to blame when this thing called The United States falls apart and we head toward a more admittedly recognizable Fascist state...
Things like this website and yours could be closed down, because the people in charge now are more interested in destroying than building...Because they forgot that they didn't do it on their own, that the system they are busy destroying got them where they are also...
People have a tendency of cutting the ropes to the bridge after they cross it...or they'll at least make it hard for those who come later to get across.
No one does it on their own, there was the system that comes before you, that you are born into and your own individual effort within that system. Sometimes that system is good and you as an individual can get lots done. Sometimes it sucks, like now, and it's much harder. I guess we can't be thankful to anyone in this "Fuck You, I got mine" society.
John, none of us do it on our own...You go to the supermarket don't you? Grow your own food and run a business then I'll kiss your ass because then you truly did do it on your own.
Hubris and arrogance are the killers.
The question is, did the Government send you a weekly check while you were building your Business?
Did the Governement cover your overhead while you were building your Business?
Did the Government pay for child care while you were building your Business?
Did the Government pay your Mortgage while you were building your Business?
Did the Government excuse your Income Taxes while you were building your Business?
Hmmm? How many people that started a business got any of that help? So, how can Obama claim that the Government was responsible for your success?
Oh Bama has taken the academic route largely on our dime. He also comes from this cess pool of graft Illinois where the last governors Dem and Rep are in jail. He knows nothing of production or the tribulations of maintaining a payrole. Mittens is no better they are both tools
payroll - oops
Just maybe Obama says that because HE did not get were he is on his own.
If people only knew.
http://www.obamasrealfather.com/
Well you're extremely adamant...about what, again? We all know that infrastructure is funded by taxpayers. So why the boldface type? Also generally agreed upon: small businesses create the majority of jobs. This is not news. It does not warrant your angst & hyperbole. Nothing Obama said contradicts any of this, so WTF [God help us!] are you talking about?. >>Sob!<<
"Obama is hostile to the moral and intellectual foundations on which Americahas been built — the celebrated ideals of individualism and the self-made man. " (Huh?)
Take a Xanax & move on, bruh...there's no here there. Git it?
I hear he thinks he is the smartest one in the room. He should be smart enough to realize that others have paved his and our way through inovation and hard work, to actually produce something. Id like to see the oriface of Omaha prorate all these tax increases he espouses to before he made his money and see how well he would have done. Better yet save the time and just give his estate to the USSA
Could show me in which text, either the federalist papers, common sense, the bill of rights, or the consitution where it advocates individual liberty and the frontier spirirt above all else? You said that the parties are "largely hostile to the old American ideals of individual liberty, individual responsibility, nonconformism and the frontier spirit." Why then in the opening paragraph of the Consitution does it say the gov't should "provide for the general welfare of the people." Why was America the first nation to iniatiate universal education? And most of these e=self-made men today are trust fund kids, old money that gets past down and down. To act like in today's America with hard work you can make it on your own without connections of some sort or an inheritance is beyond ignorant. The banks, most of which were created in the late 1800s, control this country. Obama meant that no one gets anywhere alone. That we are in this together. What is wrong with that? A house divided can not stand. What is wrong with Lincoln's statement? isn't there one thing everyone can agree on that in order to remain the world's superpower we have to pull together not rip orselves apart. If we do the latter, learn mandarin if you just turned 30 like me. I guess if you're 65, you don't care cause you got yours and robbed me of mine so you could live large. The Hippie generation should be ashamed. the baby boomers. Not all of them. But many. You fucked us. And yet you hate healthcare for me, but not for you when you know full well I pay for it and get nothing in return. Oh wait, I get the trillions in debt you left my generation. Thanks, from a Millenial. We are many. We are Legion. And We are PISSED. Yes, we'll vote for Obama. Not so much out of live and all that hope in 2008, but becuase he's the best choice and Romney is not only not a choice, he is literally becoming Bush 3. Condi effing Rice for VP? campaigning with darth Cheney? We will vote in the same numbers as before so beware Romney supporters.
Hang in there kid.
Lucky for you 30 is the new 18 and with the less than fertile economy, you'll be covered til 40.
Along the way, make sure to get educated where school surely failed you.
Have some fun: drink, take up smoking, get married, divorced, remarried, etc.
Learn to stop and listen, appreciate.
Make amends.
Discover only you are responsible for your happiness.
be easy on the hippies. By the time the 80's came along: they needed to make a living and there were BIG designs to get and keep them asleep and sated.
and it worked.
Obama's remarks were not made in a vacuum. They followed the incessant statements from the more extreme libertarians among us that "taxes are theft" and that only those who make over $250k a year, regardless of how that income is made, are the "job creators."
I know plenty of rich making over $250k a year off of their municipal bond investments who haven't created a single frickin' job, other than the government jobs their bond funds finance. I also know plenty of average joes, construction workers, technicians, electricians, teachers and musicians who have supported the creation of many jobs just by spending every cent they earn with their labor. And I know that in a state of nature without any organizing mechanism other than religion I would not have any ability to create a job other than my own substistence level self-employment. So count me as a libercrat ---- somebody who believes the founders had it right, that a democratically elected, constitutional and limited government of free men and women is the best system yet created. That said, each of us is obligated to pay for that system through taxes, and those who believe otherwise are simply freeloaders. If you don't like the level of taxation or its uses, get involved. But don't keep pretending there is some sort of libertarian utopia where government is neither needed nor beneficial.
The problem with govt is given a few powers over the majority. the few over time will find more and more ways to get more power. so the solution is how to have a govt where the few can not over time become more powerful, and abuse the majority. Solve that and I would willingly hand over my cash, until then it is just one corrupt cesspool, and our money is not used to enrich society but to rape and control it.
Well O'bullshit artist you did not become POTUS someone else did that for you, so what is your bloody point? And if you didn't do it why are we paying you, and why the hell should we listen to you?
This Obama argument is the same as the argument for god/religion and attracts people of similar mindset:
A wonderfully beneficent entity gave you all that you have, be thankful of it, have blind faith in it, give it all your money and worldly possessions, it will save you. Amen.
get involved? Obama / Romney / Death, Death is looking like a viable option. "Choice" that is a good one. Vote for Obama cuz Romney sucks thats even better good luck y'all
Oh and save the blathering
What would Milton Keynes do?
This is a dead give away. He is a creation of Frank Marshall Davis and Bill (scumbag) Ayers just to name two pinkos.
Obama to the poor
You didn't do that someone else did it for you.
!@$$#@%!!
Ok, whoever wrote the "puff" introduction to this article proffered this thought (not actually in the article) "And even if Obama was talking about infrastructure and the wider economic system (which I suspect was the case)"
Here's the speech: http://reason.com/blog/2012/07/17/obamas-speech-overemphasizes-the-impor...
If you listen to what he said, basically "someone educated your, someone paid for roads... therefore you had help" and you didn't do that on your own. You had help. You certainly did, Mr. President. In fact, his point of view appears to be an exact parallel to his own life. He didn't write his "Dreams" book; his grandparents paid for a bunch of his elite schooling; his mother was raised in a very expensive suburb of Seattle (Mercer Island, WA). And let's not forget that Obama himself is FIRMLY in the 1%.
But listen to other parts of the speech. Really at no point does he give any credit to the individual who worked hard, was smart, worked long hours laboring over an idea; they put themselves in financial risk. No one is exceptional in a Marxist/socialist world. At the national level, he has used exactly the same line of thinking: American's are not exceptional. The US is not exceptional. I'm here to apologize.
See if you think these comments are true from the speech:
We cut spending by a Trillion. Really?
At about 2:25: He says "we built the middle class together." Really?
And lastly, according to his own logic, OBAMA CANNOT BE CREDITED FOR ANYTHING THAT HAPPENED DURING HIS WATCH. He is not exceptional, and would not have been able to do it on his own. That much is assured.
I think this displays a very warped world-view. Early on I speculated that he was a Marxist ideologue. Today I am more sure than ever...
You nailed it.
Communitarianism is loser ideology by and for losers. It celebrates the lowest common denominator in society. It disdains success, so rationalizes. The "Green" movement capitalizes rigorously on this to support its supposed egalitarianism. while conveniently neglecting to mention that a global plantation necessarily has an OWNER. There is to be no freedom under Agenda 21 -- only the perception of freedom. It's devilishly clever and evil.
It's a shrewd tactical move to discredit Elizabeth Warren, take the wind out of her sails, and further DIVIDE the american population.
There's a FALSE divide between a society having a safety net for needy citizens (elderly who have PAID their pensions already) and the sick (soon to be more, thanks to radiation from Fukushima) and, OTOH, the rewards for being successful (or a failure) in a capitalist system. What I mean is that BOTH can exist at the same time. They did in the country I grew up in, and still do up to some point. But that's the new "Us vs. Them" isn't it? Obama is a FAKE SOCIALIST, he's a CORRUPT ELITE ENABLER. And NO I'm not what is called in the USA a "socialist". Mature societies have RULE OF LAW, and also compassion and take care of their own. They do NOT immerse themselves in unpayable debt. Yes I agree with the idea that this Obama statement (and NOT Elizabeth Warren's) is counter individual reward, and also negates personal responsibillity. (because that's the next logical conclusion in line.)
It's all one big manipulation. Confuse, divide, and conquer. Obama's proven to be a master in playing that game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-u8X3L2PXc
Fuck You You Fucking Commie, Fascist, Socialist, Libtard, NEO CON PIG!!
;-)
There is strength in dissociated numbers and the owners are striving for peak division.
Watch super pac money top $3billion and the look in the eye of the guy on the street you may have once greeted with a simple nod or some jesture of basic human acknowledgment but demure instead contrary to your former self.
I hope I'm wrong and +1
Gosh John, tell us how you invented the internet!
Obama is an Africanized Chavez WannaBee.
My heroes are farmers and business owners who make payroll week after week. A tip of the hat and a huge thank you goes out to both of these groups!
He is a pretty sharp author, but saying we only have ourselves to blame is bullshit. The system is so corrupted, as are the politicians, courts and regulators that trying to change things by voting is absurd. Just look at congress... legal insider trading, massive bennies, no term limits, unlimited pay for votes by the crooked corporations, refusal to enforce regulations or the law (i.e. financial crime and illegal immigration) corrupt media, crooked primaries to get rid of patriots like Ron Paul... on and on. Real change? Give me your ideas... last guy to say that turned out to be a socialist, muslim illegal.
Ha Ha, good one.
Don't let a little truth get in the way of a good story.
Looking at the picture, I'm pretty sure this little girl did not create the Lego. So no she didn't do it herself...
Also I don't think Douglass meant we should create a system where one will prey on the other and thus the survivor of the battle royale becomes this sought for "self-made man". It didn't really sound as he was talking about the evils of cooperation, rather about character I believe.
Think About It
Obama is right... We are in a crisis and we all need to pull together!
Those of us who have received the most benefit from the opportunities afforded to members of our society need to understand that they could not have prospered without the system that the government has put in place and that the people subscribe to...
'Successful' people are often the ones that try and avoid taxes, engage in financial fraud and generally utilise any loophole in the system to their own benefit.
I think this is what he was getting at. Being a productive and successful member of society is more than just earning obscene amounts of money. It is about giving back so that others will have the chance to do the same.
Fook you meng... I work my ass off... not a millionaire... getting ready to take it up the arse in new taxes and communist healthcare taxes... and you're damn right I try to avoid paying taxes any way I can. We're paying more, and more, and more taxes and lemme tell you... I think it's quite obvious that paying that fooking beast even more is not going to solve the problem we're in. I've even gotten to where I note the municipalities near me with the lowest sales taxes and intentionally shop in those areas. The fooking government doesn't have a revenue problem shithead... they've got a fooking addiction to spending and need to be put in an institution.
What taxes are you paying more of? It's not federal taxes, it's state and local taxes you're paying more of. So go bitch at them about it.
Curt Schilling "built his own business" with GOVERMENT MONEY. Great Curt, now say "you did it yourself." Curt Schilling can say he "destroyed his own company by himself" though.
Curt, is a "Self Made LOSER."
Rx industry? You "do it all by our own selves?" Great. now explain why you BEGGED and LOBBIED the GOVERNMENT to stop importation of competitive drugs.
Agribusiness, you too do it yourself? I guess those crop subsidies from TAX PAYER money proves how self made you are.
Idiocity. Someone plese show me a list of businesses where the entrepreneur has done evrything ont heir own. What a load of crock. We live ina society. We all contribute to a society that is capable of providing opportunity to many ... BUT NO ONE DOES IT ALL ON THEIR OWN!
The road to collectivization is paved with good individuals.
" To claim that those who put the legwork into building a business - whether that is the owners, or workers - “didn’t build” the business is totally false and absurd."
It's "didn't build it YOURSELF - in a vacuum.
Aziz just 'sort of' jumps the gun...as frustrated women having probably been saying, in their last words to him, for decades.
Obama's statement bugs me because he denies the hard work that some people choose to put in, the risks they take with their own money -- no government loans. They could work for someone else like everyone else does but they're driven to do something else.
When it works out, small business owners emply other people; they produce and sell things. Both of those mean increases to the tax base.
If it were easy, everyone could do it but it's not so they don't.
That ought to be celebrated, not denigrated. The statement "You didn't build that" wasn't taken out of context, it was quite clear in its meaning.
The problem with your bullshit theory is that most entrepreneurs and startup owners support Obama. Check the voting records in metro Boston, the Bay Area, NYC, Research Triangle, etc.. - the places where America's growth comes from.
It's the people who get ahead by influence and corruption, and those who profit by raping what's left of America's natural resources (e.g. the red states) who support Romney: one of their own. Texas is the exception. They're taking a different path and, in fact, growing their employment numbers. That path? They're becoming the China of North America: highest percentage of employees on minimum wage in America, highest percentage of full-time employees with no medical insurance, biggest number of prisoner executions. Chairman Mao would be proud, and Romney polls quite well there.
Where, exactly, does he deny the hard work that some people choose to put in? All he said was, if you are successful, somewhere along the line you had help, and somewhere along the line you had help from government. Do you deny that?
One of my employees gave me that "you couldn't have done this without the roads and schools" shit today.
I asked him why he isn't a millionaire. Don't you have a road in front of your house?
I would have fired his ass on the spot.
Yea, fire his ass on the spot..Good idea! Of course then you'll have to do his job as well as being the "boss" while you are trying to get some other obvious sucker to work at your crap company. Y'all are pretty stupid..
Believe it or not employees and employers actually need each other...There is a reason you hire an employee, and it's when you realize that..Gee wiz I can't do this all myself....I NEED SOME HELP.....
What'd he answer, just out of curiosity?
I think the question is why you didn't build your business in Somalia? You claim that you didn't benefit by America's infrastructure, and you feel "zero government" is the ideal solution - there's your chance. And considering your "employees" and business only exist in your mind, the move shouldn't be too complicated.
Haiti also has low taxes. Must be a business-owner's paradise.
So. there are no businesses or roads in Somalia?
Your employee is right, and you don't have to be a millionaire to see the truth of it.
Actually dumbass, you couldn't do the shit you are doing without getting some education and a road to get to that school...So yea it's true, You didn't teach yourself everything and you didn't do it on your own...No one did it on there own or does it on there own...
Again, to the elite, you and your worker are just workers...Nothing special to them...If you have to work for a living you are a slave....The difference between you and your employee is very small in their eyes...
Well, who the fook did build it then meng?
I'll tell you the fook who... taxpayers you fooking wanka.
Now get the fook out of the country you fooking commie bastud.
Not exactly. Taxpayers merely paid for it. Government built the infrastructure using the taxes to fund it.
I hope all you folks realize why he says things that appear to be pro-worker or working class...He just wants their votes, that's all...Then he will fuck them good as his owners want him to. Every other scumbag President has done the same..
When I say working class, I mean anyone who has to get up in the morning to earn a living...Yes, even the small business owner, who has people working for him is just a different sort of peasant to the elite...
It is the working class against the oligarchs...Some people create in this world and some are just parasitic leaches..The elite of our stupid planet have nothing else to do but create a Hell on earth for everyone else as we jerk ourselves off on ZH with our BS left/right arguments, doing absolutely nothing...
"...the overwhelming majority of businesses and business owners (other than the bailed-out financial institutions and similar) contribute heavily to tax revenue."
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142405297020466220457719949223321533...
Share of Fed revenue:
- Payroll 40%
- Income 42%
- Corporations 9%
Get a grip. Corporations are freeloaders compared to the middle class (note: not Charlie Gibson's).
If infrastructures make successful businesses, what happen to GM and Detroit?
Nobody said "infrastructures make successful businesses", but I'm sure you don't deny that without roads GM would be in very rough shape indeed.
You got it backward. Without GM and Ford, roads would indeed be in very rough shape. You don't need paved highway for horse and buggy.
Infrastructures come after productive businesses, not the other way around.
Democrats think like the communists. If they have the power, they will build an empty city and expect people to come. If people don't showup, they will force or regulate the people to showup for the good of the society.
Yes, of course, it is taxpayers that fund infrastructure development, which is built by government. That is exactly the point Obama was making. Those taxes go toward making it possible to do business, facilitated by government.
Modern day progressive liberalism is nothing more than a creepy quasi religious cult. Nuff said.... :)
PS Socialism i progresivism es muerte :))))
Neo liberalism is what Ihe problem is..This is why the world is going to shit..
Look, Tyler, I come for the economic analysis and not drivel like this. This is a bunch of hyped up, mindless zealot BS. Keep that shit to your Klan meetin's.
Do you know the KKK was created by the democrats? They couldn't destroy the spirits of the blacks via force and intimidation. So they put on another face and killed their spirits with free stuffs.
you think there is a difference between democraps and republicons? You still believe in that BS?
Soetoro Obama or whatever his name or citizenship is looks like Bill Cosby with a pudding pop in this picture.
It's Barry Soetoro and yes he will sell you out, but so will Mittens Romney...They both work for the empire, and that empire cares not for the indigenous population of the new Fascist States of America...
Prepare for some wild shit people (police state clampdown, and calm down peasant propaganda) as the system goes into full panic mode trying to save itself, which it can't .
Not a huge Obama fan, but in this case he's 100% correct. Yes businesses contribute taxes, but as is evident from the guy in the GOP clip, without government they wouldn't have succeeded.
Roads are a good example of that...and of course the INTERNET which without government funding wouldn't have taken off. A lot of the things we take for granted today have been developed and funded by governments (not just the US government!) because development and research was just too risky for private businesses...but without those developments we wouldn't have all those things today. Internet, microwaves, etc...all were at one point dependant on the government.
Looking at the world as "black or white" is stupid if you completely ignore the big picture.
On a side note, the way the rightwing media currently deliberatly misquotes Obama is quite frankly hilarious. How dumb do they think their followers are??? :D