Guest Post: Zuccotti Eviction - And The Fog Of Protest: An Eyewitness Account

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Thu, 11/17/2011 - 23:28 | 1890163 DormRoom
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"they always come for you at night. always at night." --1984

Fri, 11/18/2011 - 00:05 | 1890207 Popo
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The article above mentions "Valid NYPD Press Passes".

What on Earth are those?!  ... and where are those defined in the Constitution?!

I think the NYPD needs a reminder that *not only* is anyone allowed to be present,  and *not only* is anyone allowed to speak / write or create video -- but ANYONE WHO LEGALLY OWNS A GUN IS ALSO ALLOWED TO SHOW UP TO THE PROTESTS CARRYING A RIFLE.    

(For the record I am not advocating violence -- but I am strongly advocating the constant exercise of constitutional rights).

The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.  Period. 

And the REASON that we are allowed these freedoms is because GOVERNMENT SHOULD FEAR THE PEOPLE and the Founders intended it that way.   They above all were familiar with governmental abuse of power.

Got that, pigs?   If you're feeling threatened -- that's the entire idea.  Back off.


( Definition of pig: )

Fri, 11/18/2011 - 01:50 | 1890462 o_rly
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I agree but I'm pretty sure NYC is the only exception. NYC is a police state within a poiice state. 

In NYC you can't have a rifle in public view. Although in the rest of NY you can.

Fri, 11/18/2011 - 02:25 | 1890490 Popo
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The Constitution is the highest law in the land.   You're also not allowed to take photos on the subway in NYC,  or refuse an illegal search and seizure by TSA,  or (apparently) peaceably assemble for extended periods of time.   But that doesn't mean one should obey when one's Constitutional rights are *clearly and unquestionably* being violated. 

Question authority.  

The police blackshirts are nothing more than Gestapo, doing the bidding of a corrupt elite and trampling over our inalienable rights in the process.

(I think you're right though -- NYC is not open carry, and NYS is...)

Fri, 11/18/2011 - 02:33 | 1890525 oldman
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a green, bro.

I would like to replace "Question authority' with my favorite old standby:


After you say it a few times and fight over it, it really makes a difference----     om 

Fri, 11/18/2011 - 07:07 | 1890683 Botox4U2
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Now doesn't Mayor Bloomburger look like a total FOOL? Tooday was the turning point. We are coming for the 1% and we aren't going to stop until your new version of Capitalism is dead and gone and replaced by free enterprise and democracy. Fuck YOU Bloomburger

Fri, 11/18/2011 - 10:47 | 1891101 Hippocratic Oaf
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Fri, 11/18/2011 - 00:05 | 1890250 Freddie
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It is amazing that these young people found sanctuary in a church and came back to God.  Hopefully this we reawaken their spirituality versus meaningless iPads and meaningless living.

Fri, 11/18/2011 - 00:37 | 1890320 Melin
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I use an iPad and read comments like yours. Tools aren't meaningless, they're tools.  The iPad provides access to plenty of meaning and accessibility to a world of world-views.  

Fri, 11/18/2011 - 00:56 | 1890363 john39
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you can read the bible on an ipad.

Fri, 11/18/2011 - 01:34 | 1890446 Bananamerican
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nice account...

cue demonic, mouth-breathing, right-wing, fascist apologists, 3...2...1...

Fri, 11/18/2011 - 02:01 | 1890483 dark pools of soros
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you read an ipad propped up by a bible

Fri, 11/18/2011 - 00:15 | 1890272 bill1102inf
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I thought that was from the movie ALIENS???

Fri, 11/18/2011 - 00:37 | 1890319 323
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It is, mostly.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 23:37 | 1890186 Thadius T. Crunk
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Well, that whole thing sounds pretty stupid.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 23:50 | 1890214 tickhound
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yeah... It'll never amount to nuthin'.  It's not even a small part of somthin'.  /sarc/ for all u dumb dicks.

Fri, 11/18/2011 - 00:17 | 1890276 Thadius T. Crunk
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Yes, one day when greed is no longer and corruption is a thing of the past we'll all look back and say "wow that occupy movement was sure something" /sarc/ 

Fri, 11/18/2011 - 00:19 | 1890280 tickhound
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naw... you'll say it was nuthin'

Fri, 11/18/2011 - 01:57 | 1890475 oldman
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Hey Thadius,

You're a patriot, dude------You can leave off the '/sarc/'----it's Ok to be for something, especially when you can do-nothing instead.

Like me, I suppose---too old to sleep out in the rain and cold, but I do support these young people who are doing my job.

I know that you feel the same way---you're no mooch---I bet you're giving them whatever you can, also.

Thanks and don't be ashamed of supporting these young people---no one else has been in the streets for decades---they are making a difference        om

Fri, 11/18/2011 - 12:20 | 1891421 DionysusDevotee
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You guys just don't seem to get that this is the dress rehearsal.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 23:38 | 1890187 Seasmoke
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why do people allow themselves to be used as human urban confrontation the people have the advantage ....why give that up?

Fri, 11/18/2011 - 00:00 | 1890233 wretch
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At this early stage, the people are generally maintaining a policy of non-violence.  That means they get hit, gassed, shot and sprayed.

Like I said, it's an early stage.

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 23:42 | 1890195 Mutatto
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I always had the sense that OWS was much like the Obama debacle, lots of worthless utopian rhetoric and not the slightest freakin' clue about what to do about...anything.

OWS is a huge waste of time.

Unfortunately, Obama is a waste of time, money and national integrity. What a pity.

I REALLY hope some serious shit gets going prior to the election.



Fri, 11/18/2011 - 00:07 | 1890253 Freddie
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These young people at the end of the night found safety and sanctuary in a church away from the Muslim Oba's union bully boys who support the 9-11 Victory Mosque with Bloomberg and the unions.

Fri, 11/18/2011 - 00:59 | 1890374 john39
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i guess that you think obummer bombs muslim countries and kills untold numbers of muslim civilians to cover up the fact that he is muslim?  seriously man, wake up...  his god is the same god as the bankers...

Fri, 11/18/2011 - 06:50 | 1890673 writingsonthewall
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It always makes me laugh to see the ignorant trying to blame the usual suspects (in this case Muslims)


Sorry - but you have to get used to the fact that we all got fucked in the ass by good old white anglo saxon bankers - not by Muslims.


I mean Islam even bans ursury - the key tool of 'capital hostage taking' - and this is why the sycophants of the bankers like to turn the attention away.


They fear islam as it will totally destroy their ability to profit from nothing more than holding shared capital hostage.

Fri, 11/18/2011 - 08:47 | 1890793 Ident 7777 economy
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Who who flew planes into world trade center bldgs -


White guys 18 - 49 yrs old?

muslims 18 to 49 years old ?

Fri, 11/18/2011 - 09:20 | 1890865 WonderDawg
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That's a great question. There seems to be a rather healthy debate about that.

Fri, 11/18/2011 - 13:08 | 1891592 TheJokingJollyRoger
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White Anglo Saxon Bankers?  Seems to be more Jewish bankers if you ask me.

Fri, 11/18/2011 - 13:11 | 1891599 TheJokingJollyRoger
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Also, it's a stereotypical myth to say 'evil' whitey runs the United States.


In all actuality a great deal of many different foreigners have bought up large segments of the United States economy.

The Saudis and Chinese alone own huge portions of the United States.

Fri, 11/18/2011 - 00:14 | 1890269 hannah
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these people are the obama generation....they go to meeting and never get anything done. OWS justrandomly run around...what is the point?

Fri, 11/18/2011 - 00:52 | 1890355 Stack Trace
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What are you doing to change things? Oh wait, you are just another scared pussy pretending to be a tough guy. Guess "your" generation did things right with multiple pointless wars, to big to fail banks, and broken government. Go back to sleeping with Nixon's corpse and sucking your thumb.

Mind you, I am not in OWS but I think they have balls to get out and protest.

Looking for the retort about how they should get jobs or take a shower or something pointless like vote. LMAO...the collapse is already in progress and folks are crying about smelly kids in a park.

Fri, 11/18/2011 - 12:23 | 1891439 DionysusDevotee
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I know rite?  Whole world going up in flames from corruption and they're making "unwashed masses" jokes.  How much more cliche could you get?

Fri, 11/18/2011 - 02:00 | 1890482 oldman
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Even you can be a leader in this movement---everyone's a leader.

Some serious shit can only happen when we all get into the street----fuck your election.

Thanks for your support          om

Fri, 11/18/2011 - 09:44 | 1890928 Mutatto
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"Even you can be a leader in this movement---everyone's a leader."

Yeah?  That's exactly what I'm talking about, that "sounds" great, except like the Obama administration, OWS is going no where fast.

10,000 leaders going in 10,000 different directions, have fun.


"Some serious shit can only happen when we all get into the street"

Get in the streets in front of the Fed and the politicians, not in front of free enterprise and capitalism.

I see the signs that say "get big business out of politics", too bad they got it ass-backwards from the beginning.

If politicians had let businesses fail, we wouldn't be in this moral hazard mess, and O wouldn't have Solyndra in face every day.


"fuck your election." 

Fuck YOU.  Go live in a fucking country that doesn't have elections.  You shold go learn how the 99% does there. 

Your ass can be replaced by 100 people WHO WANT TO LIVE HERE.  People who somehow manage to find jobs, when the "99 week-ers" can't.


I gave OWS a good look, and several weeks to figure out what their campaign really wanted to do.  Guess what, they don't have the slightest realistic idea what they want or how to get it.

I can promise you one thing, if they could all pull down 200k working part time, they'd all be at Starbucks shopping on iPads.  Maybe they don't know it, they sure as hell won't say it....but THAT is their biggest complaint.


"Thanks for your support          om"

Let me know when you figure out what I'm supposed to be supporting here, then we'll both know.






Fri, 11/18/2011 - 14:19 | 1891781 oldman
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Relax, Mutatto,

It's all theater.

You are supposed to support whatever a mutatto wants to support. If you do not support change, that's OK, but why trash these young people who are in the streets without $200,000 per year, when they are the leaders and doing what you and I can only imagine?

You have picked a side and you do not require anyone's permission.

Good luck to you             om

Fri, 11/18/2011 - 14:19 | 1891782 oldman
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Relax, Mutatto,

It's all theater.

You are supposed to support whatever a mutatto wants to support. If you do not support change, that's OK, but why trash these young people who are in the streets without $200,000 per year, when they are the leaders and doing what you and I can only imagine?

You have picked a side and you do not require anyone's permission.

Good luck to you             om

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 23:47 | 1890205 puck
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 one thing that will save the world we are in short supply of is God fearing people

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 23:52 | 1890219 tickhound
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great, more "faith"... just what we need.

Fri, 11/18/2011 - 00:07 | 1890254 Melin
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I'll fight for your right to practice but even atheists want to save the world, fyi.

Fri, 11/18/2011 - 00:14 | 1890270 puck
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Rights are a wonderful thing and i'll fight for yours to.

Fri, 11/18/2011 - 00:54 | 1890358 Stack Trace
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As an aethiest I will give my one and only finite life to protect the right to religious expression. Think about it.

Fri, 11/18/2011 - 01:17 | 1890412 ClassicalLib17
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That's a-t-h-e-i-s-t.  Perhaps you should turn back to God,  it's easier to spell, anyways  

Fri, 11/18/2011 - 02:07 | 1890492 323
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How deep your faith is.

Fri, 11/18/2011 - 10:14 | 1890997 Stack Trace
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That was a T-Y-P-O-G-R-A-P-H-I-C-A-L error. Pointing out that sort of thing in the context of this CONversation is like complaining about the color of suit Corzine wore on Tuesday instead of pointing out what he did.

Fri, 11/18/2011 - 01:32 | 1890443 Melin
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The practice of religion is an inalienable right.  I'll fight for the protection of inalienable rights.  I've thought about it.

Here's a phrase you may be familiar with: "Give me liberty or give me death."  Hint: the "me" was rhetorical. 

Fri, 11/18/2011 - 05:19 | 1890619 e-recep
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What if the religious practice requires human sacrifice on the altar? Will you protect that right, too?

Fri, 11/18/2011 - 08:34 | 1890774 madbomber
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