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Gun Ownership Soars To 18 Year High: 47% Of Americans Admit To Owning A Gun

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Americans may be fleeing from stocks in droves, but they sure aren't shy about rotating the resulting meager liquidation proceeds into weaponry. According to Gallup, "Forty-seven percent of American adults currently report that they have a gun in their home or elsewhere on their property. This is up from 41% a year ago and is the highest Gallup has recorded since 1993, albeit marginally above the 44% and 45% highs seen during that period." Considering the social situation "out there", and the fact that the world is one badly phrased or translated headline away from a complete HFT-facilitated market collapse, this is hardly all that suprising.

U.S. Gun Households, 1991-2011More:

The new result comes from Gallup's Oct. 6-9 Crime poll, which also finds public support for personal gun rights at a high-water mark. Given this, the latest increase in self-reported gun ownership could reflect a change in Americans' comfort with publicly stating that they have a gun as much as it reflects a real uptick in gun ownership.

Not surprisingly, republicans pack more heat than democrats. Perhaps it is best not to piss too many off...

Republicans (including independents who lean Republican) are more likely than Democrats (including Democratic leaners) to say they have a gun in their household: 55% to 40%. While sizable, this partisan gap is narrower than that seen in recent years, as Democrats' self-reported gun ownership spiked to 40% this year.

2002-2011 Trend: Gun in Household, by Party ID

Women are more armed than ever. Perhaps it is best not to piss too many off...

The percentage of women who report household gun ownership is also at a new high, now registering 43%

2002-2011 Trend: Gun in Household, by Gender

Southerners, yes shocking, are the best armed of all. Perhaps it is best not to piss too many off...

Gun ownership is more common in the South (54%) and Midwest (51%) than in the East (36%) or West (43%) -- a finding typical of Gallup's trends in gun ownership by region.

2002-2011 Trend: Gun in Household, by Region

Gallup's conclusion: "A clear societal change took place regarding gun ownership in the early 1990s, when the percentage of Americans saying there was a gun in their home or on their property dropped from the low to mid-50s into the low to mid-40s and remained at that level for the next 15 years. Whether this reflected a true decline in gun ownership or a cultural shift in Americans' willingness to say they had guns is unclear. However, the new data suggest that attitudes may again be changing. At 47%, reported gun ownership is the highest it has been in nearly two decades -- a finding that may be related to Americans' dampened support for gun-control laws. However, to ensure that this year's increase reflects a meaningful rebound in reported gun ownership, it will be important to see whether the uptick continues in future polling."

Our conclusion: Buy gold. Buy guns. Buy ammo. Be prepared. It's coming.

h/t John Lohman


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Thu, 10/27/2011 - 13:35 | 1817887 chunga
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Don't get me wrong...I'd love to have an AR. At ~ 2k plus optics and accesories = can't afford it. I'm not admitting anything but IF I had one I'd grind off the sporter plate, put a Hogue pistol grip back where it belongs, add a bullet ramp to the trunnion, apply flat black engine enamel to the bottom of the receiver, replace the FCG with a polished G2 and put that back where it belongs, add an SGM Quad Rail, UTG Gen, III removable optics mount, billet aluminum skeleton stock, cut back the sleeve on the FSB, thread the barrel, add a Phantom flash hider, and grind the feed ramp lightly on a batch of high-cap Bulgarian Circle 10s until they snap in tight as a drum. I wouldn't bother with the Russian ammo. That shit gives me an asthma attack. In bulk, one can get 55gr or 62gr M855 LAP or XM193 for about 30 cents a pop.

100% 922r compliant.

Brand new sporter Saiga is $350. DIY for well under 1k. You'd have to be handy with tools (and enjoy gunsmithing) to do it properly. By the time you are done you know exactly how it functions. If I had one, I'd learn to never ride the bolt. Yank that charge handle and let it slam right in I could be wrong but I think more people have met their maker fooling around with someone armed with an AK than any other rifle.

Wed, 10/26/2011 - 18:34 | 1814489 IAmNotMark
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A good selection.  You might consider a rifle beyond the .22 for longer range defence, if needed.  A good article is at:

Suggestion:  Depending on the age of the kids, take them to gun safety classes and teach them how to shoot.  And then teach them how to be protective in the home.  My daughter shoots better than my son and everyone in the house knows where and how to use my guns.

Gun control is hitting what you aim at.



Wed, 10/26/2011 - 18:39 | 1814511 NotApplicable
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So, I take it you trust the government not to disarm you in the future?

Wed, 10/26/2011 - 19:04 | 1814610 TheFourthStooge-ing
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I trust myself not to allow the government to disarm me in the future.


Thu, 10/27/2011 - 12:19 | 1817553 vato poco
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Good on ya, Worms. Guns are like car insurance: you almost never need it, but when you do, you **really really** need it. And only a fool goes through life without it.

Wed, 10/26/2011 - 18:22 | 1814409 midgetrannyporn
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Gun - cocked

Gold - locked

Pantry - stocked

Wed, 10/26/2011 - 18:20 | 1814417 AC_Doctor
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You mean the 40 some % who will be able to defend themselves when the SHTF soon enough. Love those
pretty black rifles.

Wed, 10/26/2011 - 18:19 | 1814424 jcaz
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Sorry, my two guns are stolen, not owned.


Wed, 10/26/2011 - 19:00 | 1814590 toady
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Good idea. Wouldn't want a balistics report coming back to you....

Wed, 10/26/2011 - 18:20 | 1814431 Bansters-in-my-...
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...47% of Americans admit to owning a gun.

Thats like saying i have "a" rice in the pantry.

Most Americans probably have some (several) guns,just like saying "I have "some rice" in the pantry.

Wed, 10/26/2011 - 18:28 | 1814459 wombats
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What about beans in the pantry?

Just sayin.  Beans go better with guns, bullets and bullion than rice.

Wed, 10/26/2011 - 18:24 | 1814444 Random_Robert
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The polital class' ongoing plan to turn everyone who is not part of the political class into a criminal... right on schedule.

Make sure everyone has a gun before dropping the hammer and destroying the 2nd amendment... That way you can round up everyone more easily (also saves energy since it reduces the number of trips you have to make getting everyone into the camps.)

I can't wait until Congress passes a law that exempts Congressmen from using an illegal firearm to kill their neighbor and move into his house...

That way they'll be able to get rich via insider trading, and they'll be able to live where ever they want.

And the rest of us will be dead, so we won't care.

This is a fucking joke, right?

Wed, 10/26/2011 - 19:06 | 1814616 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Make sure everyone has a gun before dropping the hammer and destroying the 2nd amendment... That way you can round up everyone more easily

Non sequitur.


Wed, 10/26/2011 - 18:27 | 1814455 Gene8696
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Who me? I don't admit to having a Gun... or 20K rounds of Ammo..

Wed, 10/26/2011 - 18:29 | 1814469 LongBallsShortBrains
Wed, 10/26/2011 - 18:29 | 1814470 Silver Pullet
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I would be interested to know how many Canadians own gun(s). I have decided that I should. Interestingly, Canada has just abolished the long gun registry...

Wed, 10/26/2011 - 19:19 | 1814667 Bill D. Cat
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Depends on where you live . Here in Alberta they're more than common .

Wed, 10/26/2011 - 19:40 | 1814761 steelrules
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Registry is going if not gone already but they are giving RCMP police C8 carbines,
telling the people they are not full auto.LOL

Thu, 10/27/2011 - 08:01 | 1816505 Archduke
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bah. just let me keep my SMLE. (Short Magazine Lee Enfield).

hundreds of thousands still in circulation up here in Kanuckistan.

Thu, 10/27/2011 - 07:41 | 1816497 Archduke
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not sure how credible the reasearch was, but back in _bowling for Columbine_ the assertion

was that there more guns *per capita* in Canada than in the US, with 1/100th of the gun

murder rate.  For all the American redneck jests at their dreadfully polite and docile neighbours

to the North Canada is a nation of hunters.  you don't colonize a place where it's -30c on a salad.


Wed, 10/26/2011 - 18:34 | 1814492 loveyajimbo
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Can't be good news for Blankfein, Dimon and the associated scum... someone is going to get FED up (get it?) and go hyena hunting...  Now THAT would be God's work...!!

Wed, 10/26/2011 - 18:35 | 1814497 caerus
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a well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed...


Wed, 10/26/2011 - 18:36 | 1814504 Hannibal
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Own a fucking gun or 2.3.4....

Wed, 10/26/2011 - 18:37 | 1814505 TomTraubert
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I have several, so adjust the curve up a little.  Lots of shells too.

Wed, 10/26/2011 - 19:02 | 1814604 Dapper Dan
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The Second Amendment is there to protect and ensure the First Amendment.

Your hand gun is only to give you time to secure your long gun.



Wed, 10/26/2011 - 18:42 | 1814523 navy62802
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There are obviously many people who simply don't report that they own a gun. Those percentages are way low.

Wed, 10/26/2011 - 19:39 | 1814757 Big Corked Boots
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Agreed. Many years ago, before privacy concerns and the Interwebs, I worked for AC Nielsen. I would call a random number generated from a computer list, and 20% of the time I got a comment along the lines of "none of yer damn bidness."

Wed, 10/26/2011 - 18:42 | 1814524 Talleyrand
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What distinguishes a citizen from a subject/slave?

The citizen has armed himself and is in a better position to defend his life and his property.

The subject/slave...well, he can call 911. Good luck with that.

Wed, 10/26/2011 - 18:49 | 1814526 TomGa
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Unintended Consequences


"This novel tells the tale of a young man growing up with classic American values and living immersed totally in the 'gun culture'. His story is much like that of a Native American who grows up in a society where the rules were simple: 'To ride, shoot straight, and speak the truth', to quote a well-known advertisement. You will find much that is familiar in all of the characters herein and you will no doubt feel at home with them. Others who seek to stamp out this 'gun culture' will be appalled at the valor portrayed here of free men who seek to live their lives unfettered by government chains. So much the worse for them."


Own a gun? Of course I do. This is America. Don't you?

Wed, 10/26/2011 - 19:59 | 1814871 RobD
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Thanks for the link. I loaned my hard cover version to someone and never got it back. John Ross has his own web sight teaches concealed carry coarse and writes some commentary on the side. Crazy bastard packs a customized S&W 500 as his everyday carry piece.

Wed, 10/26/2011 - 20:26 | 1814979 Withdrawn Sanction
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Really good variation on assymmetrical strategies for unhinging the PTB.  Great read.

Wed, 10/26/2011 - 18:46 | 1814537 0cz
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I perfer not to disclose whether or not I own firearms to the government or agencies that the government can petition.  That being said, the only thing I own that could be considered a weapon is a butter knife I put an edge on. 

I have a feeling that after the economy collapses and people start getting more violent with their weapons, the U.S government will implement some sort of 'Trade a firearm for some food' program. 

'In the midst of the catastrophic economic stress that has caused many to turn to violence, we have begun a program where we will trade a one week supply of food for each firearm a family surrenders.' 

Then after most of the guns are soaked up, China is given the green light to invade and clean up the proles. 

Wed, 10/26/2011 - 19:09 | 1814623 TheFourthStooge-ing
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...and the flying unicorns will shoot lightning bolts from their horns.


Wed, 10/26/2011 - 18:48 | 1814544 HarryWanqer
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Truly amazing. I would be scared of these people.

Wed, 10/26/2011 - 20:27 | 1814983 Withdrawn Sanction
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Of course you would be.

Wed, 10/26/2011 - 18:48 | 1814546 Tompooz
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Before the American revolution only "gentlemen" had the right to bear arms. 

After independence all citizens became equal (except slaves, of course) and got a constitutional right to bear arms.

The notion that your constitutional guns will protect you from government oppression is fanciful, so the only use of your armament is defence against your armed fellow citizens.

The person who said that an armed society is a polite society should go and live a year in japan, where even the possession of swords is strictly controlled.

Wed, 10/26/2011 - 19:28 | 1814710 TheFourthStooge-ing
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The notion that your constitutional guns will protect you from government oppression is fanciful

You're living in dreamland. Just in the state of Wisconsin, there are over a million hunters. Over a fucking million in one average midwestern state.

 How the fuck is the Wall Street Government going to occupy even a single fucking state when the number of hunters is greater than the number of soldiers in just about any fucking army on the planet?

The person who said that an armed society is a polite society should go and live a year in japan, where even the possession of swords is strictly controlled.

...and where school children are forced to eat radioactive beef, citizens are told that Chernobyl levels of contamination are nothing to worry about, and anyone who complains is threatened with visits from hired thugs. Real polite, fuckhead.


Wed, 10/26/2011 - 23:17 | 1815754 Calmyourself
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Their culture ensures that tranquility.. Tell us about butcher knives and kindergartens in Japan.. Every society has its psycho's. Polite Japanese yes, but porn on the subway, separate trains because the oh so polite men grope to the point of rape, how polite.. The whole story is always better.

Wed, 10/26/2011 - 18:52 | 1814565 WineSorbet
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From my cold dead hands BITCHEZZZZ!

Wed, 10/26/2011 - 18:52 | 1814567 SheepDog-One
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At some point, you just dont give a damn anymore.

Wed, 10/26/2011 - 18:54 | 1814573 bob_dabolina
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Protip to black dudes: 

Turning it sideways doesn't makit it accurate.

Wed, 10/26/2011 - 18:55 | 1814575 rosiescenario
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I've been shooting for about 50 years...rifles, shotguns, and pistols.

What I have noticed in recent years is the incredible interest currently in military rifles. You go to the range today and about 80% of the shooters have tricked out AR's...maybe 90%....and they are all good shots. Me, I am into long range bolt action guns for varmint and target shooting and I like to build up rifles and tune them, but today I am in the minority of shooters. I would be willing to bet there are 4X more AR's in the hands of citizens than the army...hell, it might even be 20X for all I know.Various gun parts suppliers have entire sections devoted to just AR' can build one up just the way you want it.


All this gun ownership and an  active shooting public is a very good thing. It has also created quite a few small, semi custom rifle and pistol companies which fully demonstrate that we still have some very skilled craftsmen in the U.S. When it comes toguns and ammo, we are still the best in the world, with a nod the the Finns and Germans.

Wed, 10/26/2011 - 19:45 | 1814790 A Lunatic
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There are more armed private citizens in America than all of the armies of the world combined.

Armed forces personnel statistics - countries compared - Nationmaster
Wed, 10/26/2011 - 18:56 | 1814576 smoked
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Gunstig  Ownership who needs a license vergunning will travel

Wed, 10/26/2011 - 18:56 | 1814577 Bansters-in-my-...
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Women have always been well armed.....

They been packi'n that Pussy Power.

Guys will always get on their knees for them if they start pointing that thing around.

Wed, 10/26/2011 - 18:58 | 1814587 bob_dabolina
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You're a sick fuck

Wed, 10/26/2011 - 20:05 | 1814892 RobD
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Bitches with guns Bitches! Great story check it out.

Wed, 10/26/2011 - 18:56 | 1814580 Little John
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The old world is dieing - fine.  TRhere will be new world that will be what we make it.  Let's make it one with honest money and from that will come an honest society.

Wed, 10/26/2011 - 18:59 | 1814589 chump666
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baby 9mm magnum, great handgun

RRA makes some kick ass rifles, low recoil, fun to shoot.


Wed, 10/26/2011 - 19:00 | 1814596 Thucydides
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"Just as we would not send any of our soldiers to march in other states and tyrannize other people, so will we never allow the armies of others to march into our State and tyrannize our people. Like many of you -- indeed, most of you -- I've always been a Union man. It is not with joy or with a light heart that many of us have welcomed secession. Had our neighbors to the North practiced a less bellicose form of persuasion, perhaps this day might not have come. BUT that day has been thrust upon us like it was THRUST upon our ancestors." Stonewall Jackson

Wed, 10/26/2011 - 19:02 | 1814603 f16hoser
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Guns and Precious Metals! God I love this country!

I'll fight for Freedom!

Wed, 10/26/2011 - 19:03 | 1814605 billwilson
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My conclusion: A society in serious trouble.


If half the population has to have (need to, want to) a gun then there are some bloody serious problems in the country. Income inequality, lousy general education, a screwed up criminal justice system, a lost war on drugs ..................................................  Bye Bye.

Wed, 10/26/2011 - 19:37 | 1814746 jcaz
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But..... At least we still have our looks......  And a LiLo spread in Playboy....

Wed, 10/26/2011 - 23:19 | 1815767 Calmyourself
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Thanks Bill, how are the crime problems in merry olde England?

Wed, 10/26/2011 - 23:26 | 1815799 UP Forester
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And do you chase the Queen's deer with a big black dildo?

Wed, 10/26/2011 - 19:04 | 1814611 Atlas Shrugging
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If Jesus carried, it would be a .45.  God, guns, gold (silver) and groceries are great things to invest in right now, and one can't have too much of any of them!

Wed, 10/26/2011 - 19:07 | 1814617 vipmoneymachine
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I bet most of them are overweight, sitting on their couch, drinking beer and watching American Idol. WTF ?

How come I don't see Tea Baggers with their guns at OWS, I saw a few at health care debate.

Wed, 10/26/2011 - 19:10 | 1814619 steelrules
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Well since they got rid of Posse Comitatus 

lets hope that the joint cheifs of staff will do as Cromwell did in the 1600's

Wed, 10/26/2011 - 19:09 | 1814622 Abiotic Oil
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This is good news.
I always carry...
Take responsibility for yourself.

Wed, 10/26/2011 - 19:15 | 1814629 bob_dabolina
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kongin' on /6e

Wed, 10/26/2011 - 19:18 | 1814659 HardwoodAg
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Guns have a bore measured in inches...Hand guns, rifles, and shotguns are firearms. Geez, get it straight bitches! 

Wed, 10/26/2011 - 19:21 | 1814677 Everybodys All ...
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Wake me up when all this shooting starts, because I'll have to close my short positions.

Wed, 10/26/2011 - 19:25 | 1814694 bob_dabolina
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Wake me up when all this shooting starts,


Wed, 10/26/2011 - 19:25 | 1814696 MFL8240
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Glad to hear but will be happier when its 85%.  The military will be used against the people when this whole charade collapses so best be prepared.

Wed, 10/26/2011 - 20:35 | 1815015 Hubbs
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Uh guys, with that many guns and that much ammo, and that many fiery tempers on the loose I think you had better start getting sized for Class 3 or 4 body armor. I know I am, as soon as I get some of this weight off me. (Ah..... reliving my college days on the wrestling team trying to suck down to 190.)

Wed, 10/26/2011 - 19:25 | 1814698 CoolClo
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I have plenty, including machineguns like the HK MP5 in my avatar, surpressors and a few M203 Granade launchers; all NFA legal of course. Great investments by the way..

Wed, 10/26/2011 - 19:26 | 1814700 Bansters-in-my-...
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Whats up Bob_dobalina....
Never lick a pussy before.???

Wed, 10/26/2011 - 21:15 | 1815149 bob_dabolina
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you know someone wants your attention when....

...i don't eat pussy, pussy eats me.

Wed, 10/26/2011 - 22:02 | 1815393 Iam_Silverman
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"..i don't eat pussy, pussy eats me."

buzzes in, Alex nods to Iambic

OK, uhhh, what is a tuna can?

More pet food riddles for $500 please!

Wed, 10/26/2011 - 19:31 | 1814718 Lndmvr
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Notice the new gun shows on the tube. Lots of firepower out there. Ammo deffinetly going up in price. I am not too sure about the ccw thing. It's just registering you to the law. AK 47 , most battle tested weapon, just look at the ME thing on the tube.

Wed, 10/26/2011 - 19:31 | 1814721 Seasmoke
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Shoot !

Wed, 10/26/2011 - 19:36 | 1814745 Atomizer
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A friend sent a mp3 of this Texas handgun ad to my email today.

Here's the video version

Keller's Riverside Store CHL radio ad

Wed, 10/26/2011 - 19:51 | 1814827 Clay Hill
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This thread should easily go 1,000 comments.
I'm guessing 98% pro-gun.

Wed, 10/26/2011 - 20:09 | 1814905 Use of Weapons
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I think the gallery was getting a bit restless from the 30-thousandth 'update' from Europe - I'm calling this as a mid week steam release for the US audience.


European interested parties are probably drunk already anyhow.

Wed, 10/26/2011 - 19:52 | 1814829 razorthin
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Love my Harry Callahan heater

Wed, 10/26/2011 - 21:04 | 1814941 xcehn
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Weapons are useful for self-defence as well as rebellion should the government become increasingly tyrannical. In these uncertain economic times, people are thinking about the breakdown of law and order, obviously.

Wed, 10/26/2011 - 23:29 | 1815815 UP Forester
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They ain't half-bad at fillin' the crock-pot, either....

Wed, 10/26/2011 - 20:25 | 1814976 wretch
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I love my Dillon reloader.  Sustainability, bitches.

Wed, 10/26/2011 - 20:29 | 1814991 Schmuck Raker
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Don't waste your hard earned money on guns.

All you need is a knife and a quality compound bow.

Wed, 10/26/2011 - 21:02 | 1815097 xcehn
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"Our conclusion: Buy gold. Buy guns. Buy ammo. Be prepared. It's coming."

Undoubtedly 12 words of wisdom.

Wed, 10/26/2011 - 21:03 | 1815100 lolmao500
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Civil war.

Wed, 10/26/2011 - 23:01 | 1815694 Parth
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More like venison and boar meat. A survey conducted found out that the guns were for hunting for food not the end of the world.

Wed, 10/26/2011 - 23:31 | 1815828 UP Forester
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And a rifle that puts down a boar will put down the varmint that tries to steal said boar, or said rifle.

Wed, 10/26/2011 - 21:03 | 1815102 xtop23
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Doesn't shock me at all that people are buying firearms in such great quantities . What I always found shocking was that people were actually stupid enough to NOT own a firearm.

Benelli M4 semi-automatic shotgun with a mag extension .......its whats for dinner .

Wed, 10/26/2011 - 21:12 | 1815134 Buck Johnson
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They see what is coming and they are getting guns and ammo just in case they need it. Like any animal which humans are, they can sense a storm coming.

Wed, 10/26/2011 - 21:19 | 1815168 EBR MOD 0
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make my day, perv and get ready for a real shit storm

Wed, 10/26/2011 - 21:32 | 1815221 topcallingtroll
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Over/under for five hundred posts by midnight?

Aahh.. the good ol days of fight club are back.

Wed, 10/26/2011 - 21:40 | 1815279 Bitchin Bear
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Here's some food for thought - only in Amerika!  A friend was pulled over in a large metro county for speeding.  first thing he was asked was if he had any drugs or weapons in the car.  Being a lawfully licensed fire arm permit carrier he replied that he did indeed have a loaded gun in the console.  At which point the officer demanded he put his hands on the steering wheel and wait for back up to arrive.  This took approximately 15 minutes at which time he was asked to step out, hands on the car and frisked while the other officer removed the gun from the vehicle.  You think you have rights in this country,GUESS AGAIN!

Wed, 10/26/2011 - 21:59 | 1815383 Iam_Silverman
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"only in Amerika"

In that case, Texas must have already seceded.  Whenever I have been pulled over and provide my CHL (as required by law) with my Driver License and insurance card, the officer has asked where it was, and then invariably what I was carrying.  I tend to only point out the not so intimidating ones.  That usually leads to a short discussion on what the LEO armament trends are (changed from 357 SIG to 40 S&W huh?, sweet).

Thu, 10/27/2011 - 01:10 | 1816089 Clay Hill
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Damn. I guess Florida seceded too...

Wed, 10/26/2011 - 21:42 | 1815292 vic and blood
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All this talk about guns and gun control has compelled me to make a comment. My only qualification is that I live in the state with the highest per capita gun ownership, and it ain't down South.
We have a glut of firearms in the US. There won't be a shortage for a hundred years.
Ammunition and/or primers is another matter. During the Obama election gun run, ammunition supplies dried up. For a few weeks, high dollar target and match loads in popular calibers were available, after that only 75 bucks a box Weatherby Magnums and oddball obsolete Cowboy calibers.
It was over a year before I was able to resupply my favorite CCI primers. Powder and bullets disappeared, too, but not as quickly or for as long.
It took 6 months before I could get a few boxes of 7.62X39 ammo. The dealer had to ration to his customers due to his limited supply. Same story on 9mm, .45, .308 and .223/5.56.
The only military style cartridge available was the Russian 5.45. Same story at all the gun shows. Fortunately, I had a decent supply and was able to plink and practice a bit until supply and reasonable prices returned. Guns? Anything I wanted.
I think I'm safe recommending at least a thousand rounds for your main battle rifle, at least 200 for your sniper/hunting rifle and a couple hundred for your handgun. 22s are cheap and a person should have at least a thousand. Now, I don't know a deriviative from a derriere, but I value full boxes of ammo more than I do my handful of silver eagles. If the S really HTF, I expect to trade boxes of ammo on par with gold eagles.

Wed, 10/26/2011 - 22:56 | 1815665 JW n FL
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or if they dont want to trade you for the gold eagles you could always shot them? especialy if they are from up north!

try Barnes for you bullets..

good brass is around as well as primers.. but powder I dont follow.

Wed, 10/26/2011 - 21:53 | 1815346 Iam_Silverman
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"Whether this reflected a true decline in gun ownership or a cultural shift in Americans' willingness to say they had guns is unclear. "

I vote for the latter.  Could speak volumes for the popularity of person-to-person sales at gun shows.


Now for the French bashing - has Sudden Debt weighed in yet?  I would be curious to see on which side the Belgian would stand....

Wed, 10/26/2011 - 22:15 | 1815464 vic and blood
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I thought he was a Frenchman and now you are calling him a Belgian? There ARE no Belgians. That so-called nation is a Frankenstein state created by French nation building. Only Walloons(retarded rustic Frenchmen, no redundancy intended) and the Flemish(kind of like land-locked Dutchmen and therefore a noble race). Someday, we can hope that the Dutch or Germans will liberate Flanders from the French and Walloon oppression.

Wed, 10/26/2011 - 21:56 | 1815360 proLiberty
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It is just prudent to stock all precious metals now including lead and brass. 

Wed, 10/26/2011 - 22:25 | 1815503 s2man
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Wooooooo!  better than a gold article. 2 pages of gun rants; I can't even read them all.

for the record, there are no guns in my house.  for any fbi, nsa, cia bots reading this thread, any guns i have legally bought are no longer in my possession.  i traded them all for spam.

Wed, 10/26/2011 - 22:52 | 1815636 JW n FL
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All of you willing to let them walk around in your town or city taking fire arms from your neighbors so that you can live to fight another day?


they show up taking peoples 2nd amendment away and it is ALL OUT WAR!

and in case you fucking sissies have forgoten we out number them 50,000 to 1?

fuckin a! we could use bebe guns verse their 50 cal machine guns and still win easily!

I for one am going to fight when they start taking away my rights!

I am not waiting for another day!

Fri, 10/28/2011 - 03:28 | 1820018 honestann
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I for one am going to fight when they start taking away my rights!

Then I guess you've been fighting them since long before you were born, at least since 1913 when the overtly criminal, unconstitutional federal reserve and income tax fraud were perpetrated.  If so, good for you.

I agree with you, but am more worried than you.  If a significant minority of the military and veterans side with us, the predators-that-be and predator-class will lose badly and relatively quickly.  If they don't... then I worry.  Yeah, the predators are outnumbered, but the number of paid thugs willing to follow blatantly unethical, predatory orders has been rising steadily for years.  Still, no viable alternative exists.  The predators must be exterminated, because they will never give up or change their behavior.

Wed, 10/26/2011 - 23:00 | 1815685 Parth
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Contrary to most claims that folks are buying guns for armageddon its more like for hunting for food (really). Back to basics.

Thu, 10/27/2011 - 00:47 | 1816040 captain_menace
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Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun.

~ Mao Tse-Tung

Thu, 10/27/2011 - 05:50 | 1816363 FunkyOldGeezer
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What a totally F**ked up society the USA is. 47% of the population owning guns is NOT something anyone should be comfortable with and certainly NOT proud of.

You're all screwed WTSHTF. Violence can only lead to an escalation of violence, with that many trigger happy morons.

Thu, 10/27/2011 - 06:54 | 1816418 xcehn
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"Nobody: Well, it ain't good for some folks to live too long."


Mon, 10/31/2011 - 00:44 | 1820012 honestann
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You ought to check out the statistics before you make claims like that.  The higher percentage of people who have guns, the LESS violence there is.  That's the fact, and that's why it is great for more and more people to own guns.  I wish everyone wore a couple six-or-more-shooters on their hips whenever they leave home.  Then the predators of this world, including all those jack-booted-thugs would think twice before screwing people over.

Guns scare the crap outta me... and lots of other people.  And that is WHY more guns equals less crime.  Predators are much less willing to vitimize people when they think "maybe they've got a gun".  And that's a fact.  Carry guns and you'll be a lot safer... even if the guns don't function, are empty or contain rubber bullets.

Thu, 10/27/2011 - 07:54 | 1816548 Archduke
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back to the topic at hand: interestingly, the biggest rise attributed to democrats, women, and northern urban professionals catching up.
(presumably while republicans, libertarians, and real southern rural men already have their extensive arsenal).
Thu, 10/27/2011 - 09:34 | 1816888 EBR MOD 0
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47% may be +/- as some won't say yea or ney to some survey on the phone, I won't say to some dip wad on the phone I don't know, screw them. For a very interesting read try this:

Now, I recognize this was over in Europe but it does give indicators about being prepared and aware when the shit hits. Do you really think that the national airwave test and the TSA scanning at airports and in Tennesee is for a terrorist event or to keep us safe? Give me a fucking break and get real, this is a set-up these marxist bastards have been planning for many years and the erosion of our rights has been allowed as it has not hit most people in the butt yet. Cops stops you and you are legal to carry, then hassels you, they have trashed the 4th along with many other rights in the name of crime prevention or the war on drugs or some other shit they make up. Wake up people, get prepared I know some are, for the rest please move along nothing to see. The 2nd Amendment is the only thing in their way from us becoming servants, nuff said.


Mon, 10/31/2011 - 12:10 | 1828753 robertsgt40
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I would suggest the numbers are much higher.  At a recent visit to the VA hospital, they asked me if I had PTSD, had suicidal thoughts or abused drugs or owned guns.(I'm a Viet Vet) I told them "no".  I lied about the guns.  It makes their "job" a lot easier to get the guns from where they know they are first.  I don't volunteer info to any federales.  Be assured, they will come for the guns.    

Mon, 06/11/2012 - 21:48 | 2516665 deerhunter
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In an altercation with an off duty cop who was very drunk and hitting on my girlfriend and told 4 times to lay off,  I broke his knee with a kick as he went for a handgun.  In lockup I was beaten almost to pulp by 5 or six cops with billy clubs ,,,, not sure of number as I was trying to stay alive.  A fishing buddy who was also a cop and on duty that night came into the lockup as the beating was in progress and announced the next guy to hit him is dead.  Saved me.  Never, ever, F with them.  You will eventually be outnumbered.  My buddy went in front of the judge with me the next day.  No charges and self defense on my part.  I wa too young and dumb to sue. 

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