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Gundlach's Chart-Porn And Buy China, Sell US

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Double-Line's Jeff Gundlach presented 66 pages of chart-pr0n covering everything from Government Spending to Consumer Spending; from eating-out costs to food inflation; from future economic growth slowdown indicators to housing recovery hopes and reality; and from foreign stocks to Treasuries, MBS, and metals. Between a lack of surprise if 10Y rates were 100bps higher by year-end; and his call to 'sell the S&P 500 against a long in the Shanghai Composite', there's a little here for everyone (and his funds are killing it).

What a difference 38 years makes...

 

and the US-China divide...

 

Full presentation below...

Gundlach Mirror Mirror

 

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Tue, 09/11/2012 - 17:40 | 2783256 prains
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spread em

Tue, 09/11/2012 - 17:43 | 2783262 buzzsaw99
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re the second chart: I thought they were supposed to decouple from us, not we from them. damn you gubbermint squid! Now I'm stuck with all these bric securities and they said it was a sure thing. :snark:

Tue, 09/11/2012 - 17:45 | 2783276 kito
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but.....but....i thought china was imploding???? what about the hard landing??????? and the coming riots over food????....and the sub 8%gdp foretelling disaster?????........but.....but..............how can he tell us to buy china????.....

 

 

Tue, 09/11/2012 - 17:54 | 2783306 Stoploss
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Because his funds are "killing it".

 

Here. hold my beer an watch this..

Tue, 09/11/2012 - 18:02 | 2783335 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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Kito do me a favor and hold my silver while I go out to lunch.  I know your good not to steal it.

Tue, 09/11/2012 - 18:07 | 2783341 kito
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lennon, your silver will be there when you get back, i just cant guarantee you will be the only owner of it..........................

Tue, 09/11/2012 - 18:11 | 2783358 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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Well I know you won't want it so if there is someone else hovering around I will see if they want to join our club.

Tue, 09/11/2012 - 18:17 | 2783375 kito
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why steal it when i can rehypothecate it?????

Tue, 09/11/2012 - 17:56 | 2783311 q99x2
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New mandate for the FED coming.

 

 

Tue, 09/11/2012 - 17:58 | 2783324 JPM Hater001
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Baghdad Bob would blush if he saw these charts.  Even he wouldnt have been so bold...

Tue, 09/11/2012 - 18:02 | 2783336 reader2010
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Buying farms is not on the fucking list, of course.

Tue, 09/11/2012 - 18:07 | 2783342 Pool Shark
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Not to worry; plenty of people will "buy the farm" before this crisis is over...

 

Tue, 09/11/2012 - 19:02 | 2783485 Colonel Klink
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ZING!  I lol'd.

Tue, 09/11/2012 - 18:04 | 2783338 Ancona
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I'm long hookers and coke. The rest is just background noise anyway.

<sarc>

Tue, 09/11/2012 - 18:22 | 2783383 Yen Cross
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 Me Likey the Charts Tyler. Thanks :-) This China shit (RRR and Infrastructure building) is so over done. Ore prices are going to drop back down. They have mountains of "coking coal", and Harbors full of "Tankers full of shit" , because have no place to store the shit!

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 04:00 | 2784461 Just Ice
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Also, mountains of copper sitting on pavement acquired not for legitimate industrial use but rather as collateral for loans and refinancings during the boom times.  Didn't work out too well after people here started using housing stock as ATM's, so will see how that goes.  Nonetheless, copper and iron both went on a rip on the "infrastructure building" rehash of what was several month's old news.  Agree, overdone...or outright silly.   

Tue, 09/11/2012 - 18:23 | 2783388 billwilson
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China will hurt more than the US when the real recession comes, just like the US suffered more than the UK in the 30's depression (the biggest net exporte hurts most)

Tue, 09/11/2012 - 18:24 | 2783390 JohnKozac
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Soros is giving as many interviews on TV as possible emphasizing China WILL have a hard landing. What's his angle other then, "China will have a hard landing?"

 

After all, isn't he the astrologer who predicted, "China will lead us out of this recession?"

Tue, 09/11/2012 - 18:25 | 2783396 dragoneyes74
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Hey, is there a typical time that news like tomorrow's German Court ruling tend to come out?  Or is it a be-aware-at-all-possible-moments-for-a-full-retard-spike-in-the-Euro-type-of-day?

 

Tue, 09/11/2012 - 18:29 | 2783408 Yen Cross
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 Tomorrows German court ruling is due out @ 4:00 a.m. (est) , 8:00 a.m. (gmt). I would still be on guard for "full retard" spikes though... ;-)

Tue, 09/11/2012 - 18:42 | 2783433 BurningFuld
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I give up. Was this a pitch to buy this guys fund?

Tue, 09/11/2012 - 18:48 | 2783449 Coldfire
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Yes, those eating out costs are killing me.

Tue, 09/11/2012 - 20:23 | 2783708 oldfruit1
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this is BUDGET research, not worth the paper its written on.

did gundlach fire his research team & hire his 16 yr old to put this presentation together?

guessing not so it begs the question ..are monkeys at this firm actually getting paid to rip bloomberg charts & copy paste them into a booklet .. nice work if you can get it.

Tue, 09/11/2012 - 20:31 | 2783723 oldfruit1
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oh btw gundlach .. im in research so if you need somebody to do a proper job next time im ready, willing and able .. my normal rate is roughly minimum wage with my shitty hours, but for you i'll do a special deal ~ $250k pa is fine (cause i can see your fucking desperate for help). if there are no roles available could you please advise on who you tapped for funds cause they must be the dumbest motherfuckers in the world to accept this sort of shit & pay for it.

look forward to hearing from u re a job (send me your details & ill email my cv gundy).

fruity

 

Tue, 09/11/2012 - 20:29 | 2783726 bob_dabolina
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Jeff, If you want to bang my girlfriend shoot me an email.

Tue, 09/11/2012 - 20:39 | 2783763 chump666
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This is the low down.  Stocks/Indexes are 100% controlled by goverments/central bank flows (verbal bs or otherwise), that is moving prices and obviously up.  This is the closet thing to what the poor eastern bloc Europeans had too deal with in the dying days of communism. Fixed prices, central planning asset supports.  Now the flip-side is that central banks/china are also trying to play the game on both fronts.  So they now attempt to engineer corrections.  note: China's data dump (PMIs a week or so back to get the oil price down), unusual news flow that said their economy was doing cr*p.  The iron ore price tanked but oil stayed bid.  Which was amusing.  The point?

The Fed may disappoint, otherwise Obama's re-election hopes could be dashed for real.

As for the Germans, the mind boggles that hey have allowed a crazed central banker run everything and hold them to ransom.

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