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Hedging Europe's Short-Selling Ban (Again)

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While repeating the same thing and expecting a different result is the definition of insanity, the Italian and now Spanish regulators, in their wisdom, have banned short-selling once again (supposedly not just on stocks but OTC derivatives also) - because, of course, this is all speculation and not just real money exiting the increasingly encumbered 'bail-in-able' worst banks in the world. When will the long-selling ban begin and what does this S-S ban mean? Very little in reality - within a few days of the last ban, following a very short-term squeeze - European banks were back below the pre-short-sale-ban level as we noted here and here. The trouble with the ban is that managers will look to hedge the implicit stress that this means those banks are under (that may otherwise be manipulated out of the price). How to do this? Well, last time, it was Morgan Stanley that was the most correlated on the way down and was the worst performer immediately after the ban began - and this time seems like it should be no different. Already in the pre-market, MS is -4%, notably underperforming its peers.

 

 


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Mon, 07/23/2012 - 09:00 | Link to Comment GetZeeGold
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OK......again.

 

Mon, 07/23/2012 - 09:07 | Link to Comment idea_hamster
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Who wants to bet we rip in the last 0:30 to close at Friday's VWAP?

Mon, 07/23/2012 - 09:20 | Link to Comment Vince Clortho
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This is a given.  That dildo that runs the PPT is one of the few entities left in the "market".

Mon, 07/23/2012 - 12:41 | Link to Comment MillionDollarBoner_
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Correction.

The PPT is the market :O)

Mon, 07/23/2012 - 09:03 | Link to Comment DoChenRollingBearing
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This is as good a time as any to push the AMF button...

Get out now!

Mon, 07/23/2012 - 09:33 | Link to Comment StychoKiller
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Guys, NEVER press the ATM (automatic tampon remover) button!:>D

Mon, 07/23/2012 - 09:35 | Link to Comment Stock Tips Inve...
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Governments in desperate times, desperate measures apply, however absurd that these measures are. Vedar short sales operations did not improve the difficulties of Spain (or Italy). Conversely, this may make things worse by trying to prevent the market do its job. It is a sign over the European crisis.

Mon, 07/23/2012 - 09:05 | Link to Comment timbo_em
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When will France follow the short selling ban madness?

Mon, 07/23/2012 - 12:43 | Link to Comment MillionDollarBoner_
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C'est n'pas "madness"

C'est "magnifique" !;o)

Mon, 07/23/2012 - 09:10 | Link to Comment Mercury
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Evidently long selling is still functioning properly...D'oh!

What the hell happens to open interest options in these situations?

Mon, 07/23/2012 - 09:48 | Link to Comment eclectic syncretist
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I may be incorrect on this, but I believe you can still buy puts, so the ban is really just the big boys getting the little guys out of the playground so they can have more of the pie all to themselves.

I'd wait until the inevitable short squeeze runs it's course and buy puts.

Mon, 07/23/2012 - 09:05 | Link to Comment buzzsaw99
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MS is Banco Santander in draghi?

Mon, 07/23/2012 - 15:55 | Link to Comment Duke of Con Dao
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here's something to watch while you ponder Spain's decision: 

YouTube - "Howard Roark, You Didn't Build That!" says President Obama

Obama v Roark    (70 secs) A Classic I'm Tellin' Ya!   (unless you like Obummer)

Mon, 07/23/2012 - 09:09 | Link to Comment NERVEAGENTVX
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Cue another EU summit, another three letter acronym, another tie wire and duct tape fix, another "all better" market rally, another four hour half life before markets realize said tie wire and duct tape fix won't work................................something tells me we've been here before...and before...and before...and before...and before.......

Mon, 07/23/2012 - 09:17 | Link to Comment Vince Clortho
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There is a looming shortage of 3 letter acronyms.

Mon, 07/23/2012 - 09:26 | Link to Comment GMadScientist
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Fiscal Union 2: FU2

Mon, 07/23/2012 - 12:46 | Link to Comment MillionDollarBoner_
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Did anyone try putting some Manuka honey on it?

P'raps that'll work?

Mon, 07/23/2012 - 09:09 | Link to Comment Snakeeyes
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Spain is shooting itself in the foot and is in a full state of panic.

http://confoundedinterest.wordpress.com/2012/07/23/monday-morning-blues-spain-gdp-falls-again-euro-plunges/

Mon, 07/23/2012 - 09:12 | Link to Comment firstdivision
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Shorting Morgan Stanley feels like beating up a quadriplegic.

Mon, 07/23/2012 - 09:21 | Link to Comment Jake88
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No it's beating up the guy who beats up quadraplegics and takes their lunch money.

Mon, 07/23/2012 - 09:13 | Link to Comment NERVEAGENTVX
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That 00:30 rip is a given

Mon, 07/23/2012 - 09:16 | Link to Comment XtraBullish
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Fear not! The PPT is warming up the juice machine. Trap all the mutts short in the first 30 minutes then they engage the turbines. The U.S. Treasury can buy every stock in the board times ten and never get a margin call. BTFP...

Mon, 07/23/2012 - 09:16 | Link to Comment Bubble
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here we go boys, strap yourselves in. the ride to reality is finally kicking in

Mon, 07/23/2012 - 12:48 | Link to Comment MillionDollarBoner_
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Its been a fucking long wait... where are we, Disneyland?

Mon, 07/23/2012 - 09:18 | Link to Comment AgK9
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Spain has also apparently banned having their futures market being listed anymore on forexpros.com/indices/indices-futures  Will Italy be next?

 

Mon, 07/23/2012 - 09:24 | Link to Comment john_connor
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Ok. So the way to hedge this is to short or buy puts on MS based on this correlation? The above could have been coincidental, no?

Mon, 07/23/2012 - 09:31 | Link to Comment GMadScientist
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Correlation, causation...whatever. Do you want the compression trade or not? ;)

Mon, 07/23/2012 - 09:24 | Link to Comment orangedrinkandchips
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Short Selling is like a Wildfire.....publicly bad, bad, bad....do not allow to happen...

 

but both are crucial to a free market/free enviorment....

 

NOW WHO IS GOING TO PICK IT UP FROM THE BOTTOM WHEN NO COVERING IS ALLOWED?

 

LAW OF UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES....

Mon, 07/23/2012 - 09:33 | Link to Comment GMadScientist
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We categorically deny the existence of anything called a "bottom".

Mon, 07/23/2012 - 09:25 | Link to Comment Negro Primero
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'...there's always someone else for you to blame'

European shares hit by Spain short-selling ban

Mon, 07/23/2012 - 09:37 | Link to Comment falak pema
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when the euro hits 1.10 the FED will tremble, as USD will become too strong to resist WS from plunging. Profit margins will disappear in corporates given low utilistaion rates and slo growth.

Mon, 07/23/2012 - 09:46 | Link to Comment Hype Alert
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Short selling ban is just more proof the market is not what it's advertised to be. 

Mon, 07/23/2012 - 10:07 | Link to Comment asteroids
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(1) The shorts make money. (2) Change the rules on them and rip their faces off. (3) Confidently spout victory. (4) Shorts come back for blood. (5) Panic. (6) Print. This is 2008 all over again. We are at step 2.

Mon, 07/23/2012 - 10:18 | Link to Comment Remington IV
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see ya

Mon, 07/23/2012 - 10:55 | Link to Comment hedgehog9999
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Once again, short selling bans did not prevent the SPX from going down 333 points from 1000 in 08/09......

Morons!!!

Mon, 07/23/2012 - 11:57 | Link to Comment noses
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Keep in mind that the short selling ban has been heavily supported by the betting industry lobbyists (also called the Mob) who obviously try stifling the competition in a legal way. Why bet on immaterial nonsense if you can waste your money on doped horses and crooked football games?

Mon, 07/23/2012 - 12:41 | Link to Comment Grand Supercycle
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SPX bearish weekly chart strengthens: an important development.

As mentioned on Friday, SPX downleg continues.

Useful SPX weekly chart at my blog.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2012-12-24/market-analysis

Mon, 07/23/2012 - 12:50 | Link to Comment MillionDollarBoner_
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I love it!!!

Someone still believes in voodoo !:O)

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