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Here Is How Switzerland Caught Up To The Rest Of The World In Devaluing Paper Currencies Against Gold

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Tue, 09/06/2011 - 14:44 | 1639049 CPL
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Least appealing horse at the glue factory.

Tue, 09/06/2011 - 14:50 | 1639071 nope-1004
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Criminals know no boundaries when it comes to debauching money.  Hell, why should they care?  The ship sinks without a fight, so better to fight and lose than just accept losing.

At any rate, this ship is sinking fast.  Good job criminal banksters.  You've entered the realm of demonic, phase 2.

 

Tue, 09/06/2011 - 15:21 | 1639206 FreedomGuy
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Isn't really just about banksters. It's about centrally planned collectivist governments and the need to keep them going. Currency devaluations, artificially low interest rates, money supplies, QE's are all part of bandaging the beast. Bankers are the enablers...at a price. They are in it together in the end.

Tue, 09/06/2011 - 15:35 | 1639245 nope-1004
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Of course.  The banks just use others to achieve their goals.  But I firmly believe the gov't is too stupid to realize the banks are really running the show, not the other way around.

Can you honestly say someone like Maxine Waters has power and influence over JPM?  The gov't is being played.

Just as banks use real estate agents to sell mortgages, but the agent mistakenly thinks he or she sells homes, so too the banks are using money as a weapon to force gov't policy.

Crooked to the core.

 

Tue, 09/06/2011 - 15:36 | 1639252 Pladizow
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Why do you think these scum bags waited for US markets to be open and didnt do this on Monday?

Tue, 09/06/2011 - 15:41 | 1639260 CClarity
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Excellent point Pladizow!  Easily coulda done it yesterday.

Q for y'all.  Maybe not important.  But do you see the CHF peg to Euro as merely devaluing their currency or is it an implicit endorsement of Euro and Eurozone promulgation?  Thanks for your views.

Tue, 09/06/2011 - 15:43 | 1639266 nope-1004
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Neither.  IMO a formal default from one or more of the PIIGS is coming, and a run into CHF needs to be stopped beforehand.

 

Tue, 09/06/2011 - 15:50 | 1639282 CClarity
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Plausible.  Hadn't considered that.  Thanks!

Tue, 09/06/2011 - 17:12 | 1639571 arizona11912
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No, a EURO-Bond will be created in due time. This action of the SNB just gave the Euro more qualitative control. Just give it time. I'm selling pre-order Euro-Bonds... Anyone in? Come on China and Japan, y'all be the first to load up. The Eurocrats aren't done yet. This party has just begun. 

Tue, 09/06/2011 - 16:49 | 1639495 akenathon
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Switzerland was the 1st country to leave Bretton Woods in the early 70's and it's now the 1st country to re-enter a new money system in a sense. So it's both of your suggestions....

Here what I think we are likely to see

1) Japanese are going to peg to the US Dollar

2) Euro going to peg to the US Dollar

3) Gold or a new SDR to be pegged to the US (not sure about the ratio as there's not enough gold to cover the money supply)

4) Nationalization of most (if not every) banks in Europe and the US

5) Money supply will be contained and reassure investors that their paper money is backed by something (SDRs???)

6) China obliged to revalue its currency or the difference will be taken in the form of higher tariffs

7) Obama administration likely to change the job market (those who export jobs are likely to get a penalty while those who keep jobs within the country are likely to get preferential treatement)

Job inflation to be contained by lower energy and commodities prices, China left out, Russia to join the Euro, South America going back into poverty - Africa to stay in poverty - A 10year breath for eastern world to reshape the sytem

 

 

Tue, 09/06/2011 - 17:11 | 1639566 PaperBugsBurn
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The US will also continúe sinking into poverty. The damage has been done and this manipulation is no fix. Remember, one of the main reasons for deindustrializing the US was to weaken democracy ie weaken the middle class. They aré not about to turn around and empower their rivals.

Prison planet, bitchez.

Tue, 09/06/2011 - 16:49 | 1639496 akenathon
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Switzerland was the 1st country to leave Bretton Woods in the early 70's and it's now the 1st country to re-enter a new money system in a sense. So it's both of your suggestions....

Here what I think we are likely to see

1) Japanese are going to peg to the US Dollar

2) Euro going to peg to the US Dollar

3) Gold or a new SDR to be pegged to the US (not sure about the ratio as there's not enough gold to cover the money supply)

4) Nationalization of most (if not every) banks in Europe and the US

5) Money supply will be contained and reassure investors that their paper money is backed by something (SDRs???)

6) China obliged to revalue its currency or the difference will be taken in the form of higher tariffs

7) Obama administration likely to change the job market (those who export jobs are likely to get a penalty while those who keep jobs within the country are likely to get preferential treatement)

Job inflation to be contained by lower energy and commodities prices, China left out, Russia to join the Euro, South America going back into poverty - Africa to stay in poverty - A 10year breath for eastern world to reshape the sytem

 

 

Tue, 09/06/2011 - 16:53 | 1639517 akak
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3) Gold or a new SDR to be pegged to the US (not sure about the ratio as there's not enough gold to cover the money supply)

If you (wildly erroneously) truly believe that there is currently "not enough gold" to back the money supply, I will await with fascination and baited breath your argument for just how much gold would in fact be "enough".

Tue, 09/06/2011 - 17:01 | 1639537 Pladizow
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#3 includes a novice argument, i.e., "...there is not enough gold to cover the money supply."

At what price per ounce?

What measure of money supply - M1, M2, M3?

What if gold was $1mil per oz - Isnt that enough to cover global money supply?

All it will take is a repricing of gold and that is what we are historically witnessing!

Tue, 09/06/2011 - 17:39 | 1639657 Jack Napier
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"I firmly believe the gov't is too stupid to realize the banks are really running the show, not the other way around."

This is their greatest defense. Ignorance is used as a veil for malice. Yes they make some very stupid decisions, but the end result is always the one that they desired. Sure the banksters are buying them off, but that doesn't mean they're stupid.

Tue, 09/06/2011 - 18:40 | 1639878 Mesquite
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>JN 17:39

Re: Assorted gov'ts..

I'm reminded of a phrase:

"Being on the take.."

Tue, 09/06/2011 - 15:32 | 1639239 quintago
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It's a good thing the swiss aren't self-sufficient, otherwise they could just sit back and in 2-3 years they could buy up everything. After all, there's nothing about going shopping that isn't neutral?

Tue, 09/06/2011 - 16:31 | 1639424 legal eagle
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Can someone please tell me what "three taps and out" on the gold diffusion index means?

Much abliged!

Tue, 09/06/2011 - 14:46 | 1639053 tmosley
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Hyperinflation, bitchez.

Tue, 09/06/2011 - 15:07 | 1639151 Phillips Capital
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if in a forex account, you go long XAUUSD and USDCHF, it's theoretically the same as being long XAUCHF. give it a try. if they really want to catch up to the pack of filthy debasers, let's see how quickly they can get there.  

Tue, 09/06/2011 - 14:48 | 1639054 Temporalist
Tue, 09/06/2011 - 14:59 | 1639056 Ahmeexnal
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time to buy the CHF dip?
how many hours will PM price rise be affected? already AG is picking up.

after all, seems like the SNB hasn't actually done anything other than bluff:
http://blogs.marketwatch.com/thetell/2011/09/06/swiss-estimated-to-have-...

are there any actual figures on how many euros they have bought if any?

Tue, 09/06/2011 - 15:03 | 1639133 NotApplicable
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Why they're buying unlimited Euros. Which is good, because that's exactly how many will be 'printed.'

Tue, 09/06/2011 - 15:19 | 1639195 outsidertrader
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What an extraordinary link. The "expert" is telling us how many reserves the Swiss have to spend and postulates that it will "put a dent in their reserves". FFS they are SELLING CHF. That ADDS to their FX reserves. They have infinite firepower if they are prepared to accept the collateral consequences. I cannot believe the basic lack of understanding of how FX intervention works in this thread.

Tue, 09/06/2011 - 15:23 | 1639213 tmosley
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Ignorance, ignorance EVERYWHERE.

I generally don't read outside links.  Good job dispelling backwards arguments there.

Tue, 09/06/2011 - 18:12 | 1639763 Ratscam
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as i have said in other posts no intervention figures mentioned, just propaganda with the help of CS, UBS, SNB, ECB and DB.
end of story

Tue, 09/06/2011 - 14:47 | 1639059 Fips_OnTheSpot
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I wonder how many EUR the SNB has to buy every day to keep up with this "performance"

Tue, 09/06/2011 - 14:51 | 1639072 outsidertrader
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It can buy as many as it likes. In addition to the one's i'm buying. The CHF is ridiculoussly overvalued on any metric. If it's no longer a safe haven what other reason is there to buy it?

 

Tue, 09/06/2011 - 14:54 | 1639088 Mountainview
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The SNB will be floded by this sick currency...

Tue, 09/06/2011 - 15:08 | 1639156 outsidertrader
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doesn't answer the question

 

Tue, 09/06/2011 - 14:51 | 1639066 hedgeless_horseman
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Over the last year, the CHF was definitely losing the fiat division of the race to the bottom.  Look who is winning.  USD! USD! USD!

Tue, 09/06/2011 - 14:52 | 1639077 Ahmeexnal
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but....it only costs 5 dollars to dig an ounce of silver outta MethMan's ass!!
now we know MethMan is the goatse dude!

Tue, 09/06/2011 - 15:04 | 1639136 FeralSerf
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Youse guys is always making fun of poor ol' MethMan, but the joke's on you. Rumour has it he has one of the richest silver mines in the world. Total costs only $5/oz! And that's before the gold credits!

Tue, 09/06/2011 - 14:52 | 1639079 caerus
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lookout bottom...here we come!

Tue, 09/06/2011 - 14:52 | 1639084 fuu
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That is a beautiful chart.

Tue, 09/06/2011 - 16:15 | 1639378 margaris
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indeed. Nice visualizations possible this way.

Lets take a look at CHF performance today:

http://finviz.com/fut_image.ashx?relative_d1.png&rev=634509223698437500

Tue, 09/06/2011 - 16:29 | 1639418 hedgeless_horseman
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Transitory?

Tue, 09/06/2011 - 16:55 | 1639524 JW n FL
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Transitory in the since that Stored Value is being transported into silver / gold and or other tangibles at what would have to be an alraming rate for the central banking idiots.

Tue, 09/06/2011 - 14:56 | 1639103 baby_BLYTHE
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but I thought inflation was and entirely transitory?

Tue, 09/06/2011 - 14:57 | 1639107 tmosley
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It is.  It only lasts until the currency is reformed or abandoned.

Tue, 09/06/2011 - 15:12 | 1639175 InconvenientCou...
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the term "transitory" requires definition of units of time. Used without time units, the term is abstract at best.

Everything in the known universe that changes is transitory, if you don't specify units of time.

With a little thought, I believe that becomes obvious. What is less obvious, is the relentless obfuscation by financial sophists.

Tue, 09/06/2011 - 18:29 | 1639825 saulysw
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I agree - talking without saying anything clearly may well be a central bankers greatest skill. Greenspan was a grand master at gobbledy-gook. People spent days trying to work out what he meant. Key sentances could be interpreted several conflicting ways depending on your assumptions and perspectives. It's quite an art to sound like you know what you are talking about, but throw in so many double (or more) meanings. Dilbert calls these "weasle words".

Tue, 09/06/2011 - 14:58 | 1639109 0ppenheimer
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All those USD holdings have to go somewhere....

Tue, 09/06/2011 - 15:00 | 1639117 caerus
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no one debases like the bernank

Tue, 09/06/2011 - 15:46 | 1639273 Ruffcut
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Yes, When I debase meat and debase it again, it is so much tender.

Tue, 09/06/2011 - 15:03 | 1639134 DaBernank
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We're number less than zero! -- We're number less than zero!

Tue, 09/06/2011 - 15:19 | 1639197 gwar5
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Great chart, Hedgeless.  Everyone should note that bananas, from banana republics, did no do well and are not even mentioned. 

 

 

 

Tue, 09/06/2011 - 15:21 | 1639205 gwar5
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Great chart, Hedgeless.  Everyone should note that bananas, from banana republics, did no do well and are not even mentioned. 

 

 

 

Tue, 09/06/2011 - 16:53 | 1639518 JW n FL
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Nice Grab!!

Damn Nice Chart!!

 

 

Tue, 09/06/2011 - 17:06 | 1639549 destroyer of mo...
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USD is garbage.

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