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Hewlett Packard Leaks Good News Early, To Mask Bad News Later

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Thu, 08/18/2011 - 12:27 | 1573483 Id fight Gandhi
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Ride it down

Thu, 08/18/2011 - 12:31 | 1573505 SheepDog-One
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Awesome pop to sell.

Thu, 08/18/2011 - 12:36 | 1573526 Stoploss
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You can see the selling into the pop on the volume line. Tomorrow? Just flip the chart!!

Thu, 08/18/2011 - 13:06 | 1573628 Stoploss
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As usual, once this article was read, HP has now given back all of those gains.  LOL!!!!

Thu, 08/18/2011 - 12:31 | 1573506 Version 7
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The time a surge sustains is usually until a ZH post.

Thu, 08/18/2011 - 12:34 | 1573515 topcallingtroll
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You make it sound like the game is rigged, somehow.

Thu, 08/18/2011 - 12:36 | 1573523 TruthInSunshine
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HP says:

The future is so bright we're going to sell our core business:  Making Shit (in this case, PCs).


Yeahhhhh, baby!!!

Thu, 08/18/2011 - 12:44 | 1573528 wang (not verified)
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HP  (if you are thinking about them from the perspective of an American  worker) is the embodiment of evil via their offshoring of American back office jobs to their various slave centers


HP today (last year) revealed further details of its previously announced $1 billion investment in offshore outsourcing, selecting six countries—Bulgaria, China, Costa Rica, India, Malaysia and the Philippines—as its global delivery hubs. Those six spots are "best for our clients


Thu, 08/18/2011 - 13:14 | 1573667 John Law Lives
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All in the name of corporate profits with ZERO regard for American workers.

Thu, 08/18/2011 - 12:37 | 1573532 drink or die
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How can you charge $40 for an ink cartridge and STILL have a bad earnings release???

Thu, 08/18/2011 - 12:46 | 1573563 MachoMan
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Because people are wising up? 

Went with a laser printer and have never looked back...  completely ace and, now, the same price as comparable ink jets...  blows em out of the water....

Thu, 08/18/2011 - 14:55 | 1574026 pods
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Have to check that out.  I went with no name refills on my inkjet, like $8 bucks for black, a bit more for color.

The days of selling ink and giving away inkjets is over.


Fri, 08/19/2011 - 10:26 | 1577044 MachoMan
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Check out some of brother's offerings...  that accept the tn360 cartridge (routinely on sale for cheap as hell)...  if you go the laser jet route, look at who has the cheapest/most prolific refils and find a printer that accepts them ;)

Although, depending on your price point, you might have to look at how expensive the drum unit is to replace...  some of them are cost prohibitive (i.e. you can get a new printer with new toner and a new drum for $150 or a replacement drum for $75...  or something like that).  If so, sell the old one and rock on.  Cheaper/easier/faster print solution.


Thu, 08/18/2011 - 13:02 | 1573611 FeralSerf
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If you charge too much, and they do, it just causes lots of cheap competition, and it has.  Copies of that ink cartridge are around $10.   HP gets nothing.  If they had charged $20, they would have got something.  This is after they sold the printer at a loss using the Gillette business model.

Thu, 08/18/2011 - 12:38 | 1573538 JohnnyR2121
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Good news early? How is paying $10b for and a million times PE for an average software maker good news? And who's going to pay anything above 5x for a crappy computer division? Even if they get money for it the cash will be wasted on things that keep the corporate elites at HP in power.


Earnings = money to be wasted on high PE acqusitions. Price / waste ratio is a reason to sell stocks. 

Thu, 08/18/2011 - 12:38 | 1573540 Robslob
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This is to shed the stink of Dell earnings before their own...no?

Thu, 08/18/2011 - 12:41 | 1573546 The Axe
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Tyler..you a genius.....great call  thanks   quick vert spread....

Thu, 08/18/2011 - 12:49 | 1573573 buzzsaw99
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"spin off" is vague. to whom? for how much? Also, acquisitions usually drive down the stock of the acquiring compnay. Bogus x 100.

Thu, 08/18/2011 - 13:04 | 1573619 poor fella
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Not going to help UK's unemployment rate when HP up and plops a cube farm in Brazil with a hand carved sign, "Autonomi PLc".

Thu, 08/18/2011 - 13:08 | 1573642 John Law Lives
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So, HP wants to shed its "PC" business.  I wonder where they will draw the line between a "PC" and a "Server" to decide what they will keep and what they will shed.  I would be shocked if HP sold its "Enterpriser Server" group along with its "PC" group.

Thu, 08/18/2011 - 13:12 | 1573659 user2011
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If my put options pays off.... donation to ZH is a must !!

Fri, 08/19/2011 - 17:20 | 1579089 lincfucious
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You must be smiling all the way to the bank today.

Thu, 08/18/2011 - 13:46 | 1573768 firstdivision
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LOL! The stock should have moved down with that announcement in that they are selling their hardware business to spend all that money and then some to acquire another company that does only 1's and 0's. So much to tangible products, guess Apple is doing it wrong.

Thu, 08/18/2011 - 14:14 | 1573863 yj000
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This is what happens when you appoint a CEO from a software company to a hardware company. Leo Idiothaker has no clue how to run HP's PC business, so he's decided to spin it off and turn HP into another crappy software company by blowing off most of its cash for a software company nobody has ever heard of.

Please name ONE software product HP makes.. ONE.
You can't.
look at the latest HP acquisitions:
Palm = total failure
Arcsight = ?? never heard of them
Fortify =?? never heard of them.
The last two companies mentioned were computer security software companies. Unfortunately it appears their products are not very good, otherwise you wouldn't have massive security breaches at Sony, DoD, etc etc

I've dealt with HP's server and storage line for 7 years and i can truly tell you, that software is not HP's strong point.
Leo Idiothaker is literally killing HP by turning it into a software company.
start shorting whatever is left of HPQ

Thu, 08/18/2011 - 14:58 | 1574037 combatsnoopy
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their hardware is not their strong point either.  I had to return TWO printers because they were total garbage.  Brand new.  It ate up a lot of ink on the day of purchase to figure that out.  I guess their offshore model doesn't guarentee  a quality product. 

Thu, 08/18/2011 - 16:27 | 1574505 karzai_luver
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god all mighty what a trail of tears!


Is this guy trying to kill the co?






Another great executive, where do they find them!



Thu, 08/18/2011 - 14:15 | 1573903 carbonmutant
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HP has screwed a lot of it's employees over the years...

It truly deserves this.

Thu, 08/18/2011 - 15:02 | 1574053 AlaricBalth
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HPQ shares halted trading

Thu, 08/18/2011 - 15:02 | 1574054 AlaricBalth
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Thu, 08/18/2011 - 15:21 | 1574120 adr
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You used to get 40ml of ink for $20 and now you get 9ml for $35. They claim their printers are more efficient and use less ink to print a page, nope. Just blatant ass rape plain and simple.

I still have an 850c from 1996 that still works and you can still buy the HP 45 cartridge for $15 that lasts for over 500 pages. Ahh the good ol days when HP made bulletproof stuff. Sadly the printer is only good for black really and won't work with Vista or Win 7.

I blew off HP after they obsoleted my $1200 professional scanner by not releasing drivers for Vista and Win7. Hopefully the turd of a company will drop dead very soon.

Thu, 08/18/2011 - 18:45 | 1575070 theprofromdover
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HP -dead man walking for at least a decade,

(when their philosophy changed to deciding the customer was an enemy to be fleeced)

(when they got so envious of Microsoft's bare-faced greed and decided imitation was the sincerest form of flattery)

Selling printers with incompatible cartridges, selling ink bottles with nothing but vapour in them; introducing snoop software; refusing to upgrade drivers to new windows; silly specs for notebooks, handhelds, PCs.............

RIP soon I hope, you won't be missed. Going the way of all your predecessors (how come IBM still exists?)

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