HFT Firms At Long Last Subpoenaed

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Mon, 08/08/2011 - 07:20 | 1536308 EscapeKey
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They will certainly learn from their eventual harsh $10,000 fines.

Mon, 08/08/2011 - 07:27 | 1536326 oogs66
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and those agreements that "we neither admit nor confirm any wrongdoing"  blah blah blah...


though since these are geeks rather than schmoozers, maybe they will get nailed

Mon, 08/08/2011 - 08:08 | 1536391 Popo
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Naughty, naughty HFT'ers!    Now give us $1000 and get back to work, youuuu silly nillies.



Mon, 08/08/2011 - 08:32 | 1536436 topcallingtroll
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time for rope and hangings.

The enforcement division of the government is too busy chasing amish guys selling unpastuerized milk to willing customers.  Get the rope.  Let's go!

Mon, 08/08/2011 - 07:23 | 1536320 doomandbloom
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its not 'trading'...its stealing using computer programs

Mon, 08/08/2011 - 07:28 | 1536328 KowPie
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No doubt. They had to work all of .0000125 seconds to earn the (most likely) fine amount. The SEC isn't even a toothless tiger, it's more like a toothless gerbil.

Mon, 08/08/2011 - 07:29 | 1536330 SOLnow
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Markets going up..leave the algo's alone.  Markets on verge of collapse...must stop the algo's. 

Mon, 08/08/2011 - 07:35 | 1536341 buzzsaw99
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Mon, 08/08/2011 - 07:30 | 1536331 belogical
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Don't get to excited Tyler, they investigate, find crimes worth billions and fine $250 for not passing go

Mon, 08/08/2011 - 07:31 | 1536334 oogs66
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how long would it take for the SEC to impose a rule making pennies the smallest denomination a stock can trade in?  Seems fair and if HFT's can't live with penny markets, screw them

Mon, 08/08/2011 - 10:23 | 1536951 you enjoy myself
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that's what i don't get.  if its trading under a penny, sure, but what legimate reason is there for sub-penny spreads otherwise?  this would get rid of rebate churning almost entirely.

Mon, 08/08/2011 - 07:36 | 1536342 papaswamp
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Wait they told us it was W&R.....was this not true?

Mon, 08/08/2011 - 07:36 | 1536343 Die Weiße Rose
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why Tyler, I am truly surprised at your confidence in that so-called Regulator !

 I thought everyone knew that the SEC was in on all that HFT and blatant market manipulation.

Everytime the markets tank, the SEC make a little noise, then go back to sleep again.

Fuck the SEC, they do shit!


Mon, 08/08/2011 - 07:37 | 1536345 buzzsaw99
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HFTs provide liquidity. :snark:

Mon, 08/08/2011 - 07:40 | 1536350 KowPie
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I'm no trader by the stretch of anyones imagination. In fact, most likely everyone here could run circles around me technically without breaking a sweat. That's what I actually like about this site. I've learned a bit over time, some things have clarified.

When it is a computer generated program that skins the cat being thrown in the air and again as it falls back to earth over and over in micro seconds that doesn't seem to involve much intellect (other than the thought process in developing and writing said program) after the initial base work. I liken it to a laser carved rifle stock (higly skilled programmer develops necessary parameters to achieve desired end results) versus a hand carved rifle stock (highly skilled artisan develps skills over a lifetime of devotion). To the untrained eye they look the same. Put them in front of me and I can tell you which is which 10 times out of 10.

And if the grid goes to shit, or if a massive natural disaster strikes, etc. etc. the hand carver can contnue to work unlike the automated laser carving bank.

Mon, 08/08/2011 - 07:44 | 1536354 ZeroPower
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This is potentially good as HFT has been shown to distort, but some of you guys posting have to quit with the whole 'big regulation + big gov = excellent' theme cause its annoying and clearly HASNT worked.

Mon, 08/08/2011 - 07:52 | 1536364 StychoKiller
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Peter Cook as Beelzebub in "Bedazzled":  "Lousy Sins I got working for me -- must be the wages."

Mon, 08/08/2011 - 07:53 | 1536369 RiverRoad
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Suddenly they got religion?  Sophie's Choice for the SEC:  kill the HFT's or kill the market. 

Mon, 08/08/2011 - 07:56 | 1536374 Mad Mad Woman
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Kind of a little late for that isn't it? That's our govmint in inaction. It's all for show anyway. Nothing to see here, move along.......


Mon, 08/08/2011 - 07:58 | 1536376 mtomato2
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Mon, 08/08/2011 - 08:35 | 1536443 topcallingtroll
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every dollar helps.  zero hedge does not suck off the government teat like NPR and "educational" TV.


Please donate.  Even five dollars, ten dollars.  Whatever you can.  It is all greatly appreciated.  keep this going.

Mon, 08/08/2011 - 08:17 | 1536406 fishface
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wouldn't it be more effective if the stock exchanges had some kind of filter or time delay in their software to disallow this practise?

Mon, 08/08/2011 - 09:59 | 1536437 baby_BLYTHE
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A 1% Wallstreet sales tax on CDSs, CDOs, MBSs and other toxic derivatives is a good place to start. Only so the tax is felt by the big banks, billionaires, hedge fund hyenas not the J6P investor though

Mon, 08/08/2011 - 08:29 | 1536431 topcallingtroll
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the real issue is the HFT frontrunning and hundreds per second canceled trades throughout the trading range to find out where the limit orders are.


Why won't the government do something about blatant illegality?  I have lost my faith in government.  It is every man for himself now.  Screw them all.  I am going to cheat even harder on my taxes.

Mon, 08/08/2011 - 09:05 | 1536507 williambanzai7
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Is it true Waddell moved to Chile?

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