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Hilsenrath: Fed's Kohn Says Will Give "Very Serious Consideration" To QE3

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As always happens, about a week after Goldman telegraphs the need for QE3, which they did last Friday, the WSJ's Fed mouthpiece Jon Hilsenrath reaches out to the media and proceeds to give the secret QE handshake. Now in its third iteration. In an "exclusive" interview with the Fed's last tree monetary affairs committee, Donald Kohn, Vince Reinhart and Brian Matigan, Hilsenrath observes that according to these masters of the universe the chance of another recession is 20-40%, which we are confident is a given at 100%, but more importantly, he quotes Don Kohn who "said the Fed still has some options to support the economy, but "they're kind of limited." He said he expects the central bank, which holds a policy meeting Aug. 9, to wait and see whether the recovery is really losing steam before taking any action. If that's the case--and inflation is coming down--then he would give "very serious consideration" to a new round of bond purchases, he said." Well, the 30 Year is at 2011 lows, TIPS are screeching, and stocks are plunging: all indications that the market anticipates deflation. Looks like the only wildcard is whether the FOMC will determine next Tuesday that the economy has slowed down. Which it has. We believe the August 9 statement will be very interesting to most, and will result in some quite serious market volatility, as ever more are pricing in hints of an imminent resumption of LSAP or, in the least, Operation Twist with the confirmation likely to come at this year's Jackson Hole meeting, as we predicted back in April.

From the WSJ:

In an exclusive interview this week with The Wall Street Journal, Donald Kohn, Vincent Reinhart and Brian Madigan--the last three directors of the Fed's powerful monetary affairs committee--put the risk of a new economic contraction at between 20% and 40%. Madigan and Kohn said the Fed should consider a third round of bond purchases only if inflation slows from recent elevated levels and if the economy continues to underperform. But they cautioned a new purchase program, dubbed QE3, wouldn't represent a cure-all.

 

Reinhart, who said he gives Congress "a very low grade" like most Americans, believes the odds of a credit downgrade by rating companies haven't changed following the debt deal. Standard & Poor's was looking for 10-year budget cuts of $4.0 trillion to confirm the U.S.'s top-notch AAA rating. 

 

Madigan, who advises Barclay Capital and teaches at Georgetown University after retiring from the central bank a year ago, said the Fed's $600 billion bond purchases that ended in June had a "relatively modest" positive effect on the economy. "Purchases of that order of magnitude could be helpful at the margin," he said in his first public interview since leaving the key position at the Fed.

 

"We're flying the plane slower and closer to the ground, so we're less resilient to adverse shocks," said Reinhart, who puts the odds of a new
recession at 40%. Following a financial crisis, seven out of 15 countries studied by Reinhart have experienced two recessions over a 10-year period.

Most important were Kohn's remarks:

Kohn said the Fed still has some options to support the economy, but "they're kind of limited." He said he expects the central bank, which holds a policy meeting Aug. 9, to wait and see whether the recovery is really losing steam before taking any action. If that's the case--and inflation is coming down--then he would give "very serious consideration" to a new round of bond purchases, he said.

 

Kohn noted the deal leaves lots of uncertainty over the path of fiscal policy, making it harder for the Fed to decide what to do with monetary policy. The debt deal doesn't specify what happens to the payroll-tax cut enacted in January and passes on the key long-term decisions of cutting the deficit to a bipartisan committee.

 

While more bond purchases could help the U.S. economy at the margin, Madigan said that providing more explicit guidance on how long the Fed's short-term interest rate remains close to zero--another easing option mentioned by Bernanke--wouldn't be so effective.

The irony is that we all know the Fed knows one thing and one thing only: printing, and any of its infinite variations, which can be named anything but which do nothing to change the fact that the Fed will i) continue to push risk assets higher, ii) continue to take on ridiculous duration risk: its DV01 now is about $1.5 billion if not more, and iii) issue its daily Conviction Sell Price Target on the USD as zero in the medium- to long-run.

Everything else is much overused foreplay and strategically placed mirrors.

 

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Wed, 08/03/2011 - 22:35 | 1522725 zorba THE GREEK
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"There is no risk of re-election"

Wed, 08/03/2011 - 14:35 | 1521519 YesWeKahn
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These idiots never cared about US economy, they only care about the wealth of their bank cartels. Unfortuantely they are independent fraud entity, nobody (not even elected congress) can do anything about it.

Wed, 08/03/2011 - 14:37 | 1521523 RobotTrader
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They are trying to paint the charts and U-turn key sectors like KRE and XRT today.

Not sure if it is going to work, but every "pattern recognition" Algo is probably going to buy it if it happens.

Wed, 08/03/2011 - 15:11 | 1521621 d00daa
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good fucking lord momo, both need follow through tomorrow to mean anything, you know that.  both close off the highs today imo.  negative nfp on friday should kill this market off once and for all.

Wed, 08/03/2011 - 14:38 | 1521528 The Proletariat
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I didn't see the word "transitory" anywhere....  Isn't "transitory" cue for QE?

Wed, 08/03/2011 - 14:39 | 1521530 WonderDawg
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The melt up didn't last very long. The half-life on this kind of shit just keeps getting shorter. At this rate, the market will crash when QE3 is finally announced.

Wed, 08/03/2011 - 14:44 | 1521540 TruthInSunshine
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Transitory bounces become more and more transitory.

The Bernank, instead of announcing QE3 at Jackson Hole, is instead going to take the stage dressed as a magician, tear the fur off a rabbit, and tell the crowd that he made it disappear.

Wed, 08/03/2011 - 15:00 | 1521586 WonderDawg
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Nice visual! I've been trying to decide what to do about the whole QE3 question, whether to get ready to go long, or stick with my bear fund. The way things are playing out, I'm not so sure QE3 will have the impact that the previous QE's had. This might be the time it doesn't work, and in fact has the reverse effect on equities. What to do, what to do.

Wed, 08/03/2011 - 14:40 | 1521533 slyhill
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Crackin up at -> Obama banner ad.

Wed, 08/03/2011 - 14:46 | 1521542 Count Laszlo
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Nice!  Let the games begin.  I think gold and oil... and maybe some hogs will due. 

Wed, 08/03/2011 - 14:58 | 1521560 Archimedes
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Wow! A F**king rumor of QE3 turned my account from up 3,500 bucks today to up 1,700 in a matter of minutes. Unbelievable! No worries, tomorrow is gonna print a 450K handle sending the averages plummeting and Friday's NFP is gonna miss too! I knew some type of relief rally was coming. Now it is over. Will be adding to my shorts at 3:45pm.

Wed, 08/03/2011 - 15:01 | 1521591 Count Laszlo
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Double-dip Recession is all priced in now - it's all up from here. 

Wed, 08/03/2011 - 15:03 | 1521598 Careless Whisper
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AAPL rallied 10 points off the morning low.  You know the drill... BTFD.

 

 

Wed, 08/03/2011 - 15:08 | 1521613 wombats
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Transitory?  Sounds very bullish.

Wed, 08/03/2011 - 15:08 | 1521615 stormsailor
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i wonder if a 5 mile radius of obama's birthday party was obliterated, would we declare another war, or send a thank you card and fruit basket?

Wed, 08/03/2011 - 15:24 | 1521666 TruthInSunshine
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***WSJ BREAKING NEWS ALERT***

 

Iron Chef Bobby Flay voices support for more quantitative easing, reports Jon Hilsenrath.

 

***THIS HAS BEEN A WSJ BREAKING NEWS ALERT***

Wed, 08/03/2011 - 15:32 | 1521689 medicalstudent
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GEL TM

Wed, 08/03/2011 - 15:57 | 1521772 mfoste1
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i love this shit: apparent that the markets are crashing, obama bin bagel says that the debt crisis has had negative effect on the "economy"---LAUGHING MY FUCKING ASS OFF! what a stupid nigger

Wed, 08/03/2011 - 20:44 | 1522478 Bicycle Repairman
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Nothing witty to say. 

Buy.Gold.Now.

Wed, 08/03/2011 - 21:18 | 1522561 khakuda
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Wow, that took longer than expected.  QE2 ended 34 days ago.  They must have had a delay in getting more ink from Japan.

Thu, 08/04/2011 - 06:42 | 1523122 markalister
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Pavlovian dogs (words of another ZHer) cash loans in the pit don't know whether to lick their balls or take a dump, but their tails are wagging like crazy.

Fri, 08/05/2011 - 03:59 | 1525926 markalister
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The half-life on this kind of shit just keeps getting shorter payday cash advance. At this rate, the market will crash when QE3 is finally announced.

Wed, 09/14/2011 - 04:40 | 1667336 chinawholesaler
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Fri, 09/30/2011 - 05:24 | 1725040 markalister
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The debt deal doesn't specify what happens to payday loans online the payroll-tax cut enacted in January and passes on the key long-term decisions of cutting the deficit to a bipartisan committee.

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