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A History Of US Defense Spending Since FDR; And Where Obama And Romney Differ
Presented with little comment, via Bloomberg Insider's Convention 2012 Issue; the history of military spending (which we discussed recently) and the $400bn divide between Obama and Romney's agenda.
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Where Obama And Romney Differ
Could start with the whole Marxist vs Capitalist thingy.
.....and I'm pretty sure that comment is gonna piss off just about everyone.
I'm wondering how anybody could believe any estimate given by either of them!?!
Dumb fucking sheep!
What strikes me is how could we have spent 11.6% during the Korean war? Well, on second thought, maybe is was all that money we spent on the nuclear program making all those cool videos of south pacific islands being vaporized.
Defense spending as a percentage of GDP is one of the most useless statistics for measuring defense spending or any spending. One, it doesn't reference the increase in the money supply, it doesn't offset the growth in government spending, it doesn't include intelligence agencies, there is a laundry list of items that would skew the percentage much higher- especially if we calculated GDP properly- minue government spending!
Obama nor Romney are not in charge of spending- the CONGRESS is. They are in charge of starting and maintaining undeclared, unconstitutional wars for the benefit of murdering our children and the world's people. While industrialists and corporations use the huge profits to offset any increase in tax obligations.
I really hate this kind of crap.
Agreed on the meaninglessness of GDP in determining what "defense" spending "should" be.
The embedded graphic also excludes "war funding" from the "defense" budget. Have not checked to see when the USG started doing this but it could mess up historical comparisons. This graphic shows them both.
It doesn't appear to exclude war funding during the 1941-45 period. Maybe they're trying to compare the apples with the 5.56X45s. (Oranges are at least a fruit.) There's nothing like a raft of bullshit nonsense to start the day, eh?
You've not been paying close enough attention. The current occupant of the White House has been spending money without authorization from CONGRESS for quite some time. The most recent example is work for wellfare which he unilaterally is ignoring. Our real problem is that our CONGRESS does not have the balls to do anything about it.
CONGRESS has lower approval rating than white house
CONGRESS hold the purse strings.
CONGRESS passed bank bailouts.
any questions?
Like I said CONGRESS does not have the balls to do anything about it. What we need is a good old fashioned Coup d'etat. What we are likely to get is a French Revolution since we have not Washingtons, Adams or Jeffersons in our current political leadership.
http://www.cfr.org
Those weren't nukes, it was Jon Corzine.
is the phrase "4% GDP growth" an oxymoron or just an oxymormon?
Capitalism died long ago. You didn't get the memo? The choices bfore you are:
a) The devil you know
b) The devil you know, but white.
Sorry, but I don't know what race has to do with this choice. That's not even in the equation, as far as I'm concerned. Neither choice is what I want, but race will have nothing to do with my decision.
You brought it up.....you must be a racist!!!
I sentence you to 3 years of watching Chris Matthews....you then have to translate the slurred words to the chalkboard.
Ole "wiffle ball" will be out of the cable business soon enough.
the choice is the devil you know (white)....or the devil you know (half white)
still whites win.
No, no one wins.
Can he step in front of tractor trailer doing 80 mph instead?
It would be more merciful.
Maybe not your vote, FL Conservative, but to deny racism is running very deep in this election means you are either lying or really, really stupid.
Hey GetZeeGold, here's that racist comment you were looking for!
You did not get it, there is actually no difference, just like a lemon, why do you care if the car is blue or grey, the car is a lemon anyway.
You're wrong. I "get it" very well. Voters can choose between the crony that will pander to labor unions and the TBTF financials, or the crony that will do the bidding of the GOP establishment. IMO the only difference is that the economy will improve more under the latter. In either case, liberty and personal freedom will get the shaft.
"the economy will improve more under the latter."
Perhaps you meant to say "decline less", regardless, it is hairsplitting - a "brain cancer or heart cancer" type of choice.
Too funny. You actually think Romney isn't butt buddies with the too big to fail bankers?
Here is a suggestion. Check out this breaking news from Matt Taibbi in Rolling Stone, then get back to us.
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/greed-and-debt-the-true-story-of-mitt-romney-and-bain-capital-20120829
Romney has 2 objectives....
1) derail little reform of Dodd Frank for good of wall st. (he is from private equity background)
2) get in more debt for war in Iran as welfare for oil and military industrial complex (republican bread and butter)
He doesn't give a shit for you.
Adolf Hitler would have loved Mormon. It is consistent with his beliefs and pogroms. Its as if Odessa switched tactics and infiltrated America... nah. Winston Churchill sure did flip though.
Gott Mit RMONEY 2052
Race has one effect-
One has more teflon than the other.
Capitalism is alive and well, unfortunately it is not free enterprise capitalism but corporate monopolism, crony capitalism and welfare statism. Spending on "defense" is social malinvestment of the worst sort, it produces negative returns and gaurantees increasing and eventually unsustainable debt. Whether we go to hell in a blue or red handbasket is really irrelevant.
you know what they call that kind of capitalism when it is done in Europe????
FASCISM
yup, US is a fascist country.
Without wanting to make an argument for or against your comment,
Fascism in europe was gov slapping corporations in gov's ranks, according one party's plans.
What you are describing is corporations steering gov's course throgh campaign contributions and lobbyism.
How about Plutocracy?
Plenty of historic examples for that, including classic "democratic" Athens in it's imperial phase.
Plutocracy: the Rule of Finance/Money.
how can anyone believe there is any practical difference between the two?
Well, one of them wasn't groomed by Soviet Communists for 20+ years to be installed as President in order to undermine and collapse the United States of America.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/12955385/Barack-Hussein-Obama-and-His-Red-Russ...
This is NOT an endorsement of Mitt Romney.
George Soros is a big Obama supporter. How does that compute with the "Soviet Communist" thingy?
Banks have been the biggest WINNERS of the current administration. I didn't read that in the MANIFEST anywhere.
Obama must have studied a different MANIFEST if he really did.
Wall Street bankers financed the Russian Revolution-- it's fairly well documented. You obviously don't know much about the connection between the One World banking elite and communism.
The enemy of my enemy.
Socialism is all about spending other peoples money. Every Marxist dictator worth his/her salt has a Swiss bank account.
Makes little difference which one is captain of the ship, one way or another it will run aground and the response we'll get once again is 'who could have predicted it?'
It really smells like we're back in the 2008 election again.
Further...anyone who buys that tripe about Romney 'fixing' anything is wasting their time. It'll be new 'hope and change' but it will never come.
I think it smells a bit like 2004..
It does not matter who is the captain of this ship. Some one else set it on auto cruise to the destination demise.
Doesn't piss me off it's funny but also true since entitlement spending surpassed defense spending in 1974 .
If it pisses people off it's just because they don't really understand that Marxist's whine about defense spending but do plenty of it themselve's just in a different way it's then called the people's army.
There is a diffference in the impact of defense vs entitlement spending.
Firstly, if the entitlements are funded by exsiting or increased taxation, the budget is balanced and the money pushed down to the bottom of the economic pyramid and filters back upwards... priming the pump. Whens defense spending, a lot of which is spent overseas and written off on unproductive enterprises, is not funded (by increased tax revenues) the deficit balloons. When military spending is put on steroids and simultaneously taxes are cut.. as has been the trend since 2001... the deficit balloons, interest rates are manipulated downward, real productivity drops and bankruptcy looms.
Both parties are on the same train and no amount of red herring bullshit can alter the economic consequences of the accumulated debt.
Anti-colonial marxist theology vs capitalism
Which one is the Capitalist?
clearly the one who wins the house on the capitol
curious on the military spending and tax rates of any falling empire. Bet they go in one direction
The diff is the waffle pattern they make on your face.
Hey Tyler here is one for you. CNBC claims that China not Wallstreet caused the financial crisis.
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/china-not-wall-street-caused-102129161.html
Those damn irresponsible Chinese savers are to blame. A pox on their house.
So............when do we leave the brown skins alone and start bombing the yellow skins?
<Ya gotta read the entire (short) article. It is hilarious.>
/sarc
Uhm, why would we do that? Wouldn't they fight back?
Gotta destroy some infrastructure so we can build it back up.
Only this time it is America's turn to be the bombee.
<Taking the PONZI to stage two in 3.....2.....>
I wish I could be paid to simply make shit up....
poetic ...given that shit use to be the world's fuel and probably will be again
Mrs Cog has a solar oven.
Ain't that the shit? :)
http://www.sunoven.com/
I'm in the process of building a solar dehydrator right now. Well, as soon as I get my ass off this chair and back in the garage. Solar power is great for very low-tech uses.
funny how all other forms of life use the sun. Wonder if they think we're retarded.
My garden laughs at me everytime I water and weed it. :)
Dog's attitude: "You feed me and take care of me, you must be a God!"
Cat's attitude: "You feed me and take care of me, I must be a God!"
I need to get my ass in gear on projects like that. I've been reading up on areas where I can utilize solar power and not expend a great deal of money, but haven't motivated myself to do it.
If you haven't already, start with a greenhouse.
somebody hates early germination
No they just hate you.
Haters gonna hate.
but I believe in free love. I believe we should pay our way for everything but not love. At least that's what my elected prosecutor says. And does this mean your negative vote means they hate you or they hate you saying they hate me? This is getting spastica
Actually, I hated myself.
:(
I abuse myself too but the form it takes is more connected with "love" than hate
Robotrolls who junk just to get their rocks off.
You can...My sister's ex live in girl friend's best friends mom earns $100,000 a month sitting on the toilet while smoking a cigarette and drinking Boones Farm at her computer. All you have to do is go to this web site... www.stupidmotherfucker.com
Biting sarcasm +1
not only did those commie bastards start saving their own money, they stopped buying our toilet paper. Clearly an act of war
"they stopped buying our toilet paper."
I had to hold the beer in my mouth for almost a minute while the crippling laughter subsided; these moments are nearly half the reason I read this site. :-)
You're drinking a bit early, aren't you? I try to wait to afternoon.
The commie TP was something to behold. It was really not much different than using your finger; the finger normally pierced the TP. But, fortunately or unfortunately, depending on one's state of mind, it more often than not was unavailable. Until one has experienced commie TP, one still does not really appreciate western civilization as we know it and what the end will be like.
Western TP was reserved for the wealthy elites.
"I try to wait to afternoon." I usually do, too, friend; here in Taiwan, it's an hour past midnight. :-)
As for the TP, (I really thought the guy was refering to UST), but I finally made it west-east across China last year, and I agree that market competition results in better products for the consumer, tissues fairly included. The Thailand ass-sprayer still trumps all, hands down.
2 thumbs up for the George Carlin reference.
Boy did he get it right - miss the dude!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYIC0eZYEtI
They will need that military when the martial law executive order comes through.
That order was issued on 09-11-2001.
But what's the sense in telling us when we good ants are perfectly happy to blindly carry on?
WE ARE ALL DUMB MUTHER SCREWING NAGGER SLAVES TO THE IDEA OF WHAT CURRENCY IS:
http://youtu.be/zqNUmWvRVW8
holy shit, how much cocaine do you snort?
Looks like all of it all the time. :)
Apparently not enough, since he's still coherent enough to turn on the computer and navigate to this site.
A trillion here, a trillion there.
Before you know it you're talking real money.
<Actually it's all fake....but what do I know?>
Yeah, well, I'm still not voting for Obama !
Wow......who's gonna pay for your house and gas? What about your shovel ready job?
Where as all the hope gone?
neither clowns are going to fix anything
this is about which 20 corporations are going to get all the graft and which 100 congressmen are going to get better stock options
Ryan is stoked on his stock options.
Bishop Romney is going to fix everything!
Anyone hear the Convention yea and nay votes on the (brand new) proecedural rules making sure Ron Paul would have all his numbers taken away? Interesting tape.
"Bishop Romney is going to fix everything!"
Including the election?
Wait a minute I thought Romney was the conservative? I am confused. < sarc off >
Better buy some more silver, gold, and lead on this dip just in case.
I only wish romney was planning to pay for all that himself. Maggot.
I assume the DHS behemoth doesn't count as a defense expenditure....if not , where is that line item hidden away....??
good point, rainman. And how about DHS orders of the 750 gazillion rounds of ammo, all the new drones, and not to leave out the DOJs weapons to the Mexican drug cartels. Oh, scratch that last point.. I forgot that these are to be used against Americans and innocent Mexicans.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/video-tsa-takes-over-bus-station-in-tampa-dh...
seems to me that the numbers used as the defense department budget do not really tell any more of the honest story than the numbers coming out of BLS these days .... ssems to me that you ought to add in all the "emergency approrpriations" every year for the continuing wars of aggression and occupation in the middle east, and then most or all of the TSA budget, the CIA budget, the off-the-books NSA budget ... and the VA buget, and the nuclear weapons component of the department of energy, and then all of the pensions for all the people retired from those occupations formerly .... taken altogether its about twice the amount you are reporting here .... and its really an obscene amount of money and manpower, when you really get down to it, its embarrasing how little they accomplish with it ....
I finally found a song for you Tyler:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIMLaIieko0
this is romneys pitch telling all the grifters they'll be able to back up thier trucks to the door and he'll help throw the money in, "if you think Obamney's been throwin around the cash, you ain't seen nutin yet fellas" _ mittens
Real US military spending is not $650 billion in 2013 as shown in the graph but $994.3 billion.
"While everyone knows that the defense budget is large -- even in the numbers that the public sees as the formally admitted figures by the Department of Defense -- the truth is that when one scratches beneath the bureaucratic veneer, national security spending is much larger, nearly double the amount US citizens are told."
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/02/the-real-defense-budget/253327/
What ever happened to the $2.3 trillion Rumsfeld said the DOD could not account for in 2001?
I'm sorry, but you've answered your own question.
It was a rhetorical question.
There is no difference, only the appearance (illusion) of one. These puppets strings are pulled by the same master
Hallelujah for something that at least bears a passing resemblance to a fact-based commentary on the candidates positions.*
*Unlike 95% of what I hear in the mm.
"Chinese Saving frenzy"=not having 5 grand on your credit cards, not having a giant mortgage payment on your underwater house for the next 30 years, not having 10 grand on your car, not having 20 grand on your student loans for your Mestizo Bisexual Taco-Bending Bachelor's degree. Saving 20 percent of your money is not a bad thing. Being gigantically in debt with a completely unsellable house IS.
The chinese made us borrow that money! It's not our fault! I didn't want this expansive lifestyle, it was forced on me! /s
After all it makes perfect sense to borrow ALL the money spent on defense from your biggest potential enemies - China et al.
FIRST - slash defense by 50%, then we can talk about medicare etc.
Slash Medicaid, Food Stamps, Unemployment, SS Disability, and Welfare first. You might need some of that defense money to put down the ghetto riots.
The DHS and over a billion rounds of 9mm hollow points are not on the defense budget.
I think they are .40 S&W. 9mm doesn't cut it if the proles are wearing body armor.
Why slash defense when you can borrow that money from your (inevitably future) enemies?
Please get a clue. 50% of the defense budget wouldn't cover the bill for food stamps and welfare. Medicare is a $100 trillion unfunded liability. Fix Medicare first! Then everything else will be easy.
Tyler, thanks for pointing out the first real difference between the two bankster man-children. Voting for either is an affirmation of your slavery to the status quo.
Agreed, big time. I don't accept the 'lesser of evils' as a mandate for presidency because I am strictly anti-fascist. As fascism goes, though, spending levels can be quantified; thanks Tyler for a graphic, even if it is these scarcely meaningful projections.
Why call it defense spending really, when was the last time we used our troops in self defense. Sure, I grant some operations after 9/11 wereclearly in our defense, and I am sure we are greatful for them. On the other hand, what passes for our defense now is more likley to involve empire building and operations in the interests of globalization and corporations needs.
We all know the "war is a racket" quote, it is clearly true at this point. We spend the same as the next 24 countries combined, there is no credible threat other than economic and the military is pretty piss poor at making over the US economy into a competitive economy, quite the opposite, it's bloated spending drags us down.
I am for defense, I am a veteran who volunteered in war time, even though that war was total BS. Note to self, when young the mind can't grasp that the bigger powers are liars. Young folks take note!
Well we can only hope that our military comes to the country's aid when Obamas DHS force is unleashed on the unsuspecting population.
Of course our military will be at a disadvantage since they will not have a couple hundred million hollow point rounds at their disposal.
The US military exists for one reason: To protect the financial interests of a few very rich and very powerful people.
Roger that, Jack.
For many of us, our personal experience in the military some 40 odd years ago turned us into permanent skeptics. The bitter taste of deception lingers long. The memory of the waste, the loss, & the futility can't be erased.
Just wait until all the ME war vets get home and the reality sets in over the coming decades. Our longest war is going to leave a lot of cynics in it's wake. Who knows waht the repurcussions will be for the country.
11b40, My son-in-law is one of those new Middle East war vets. He got called up from his Army reserve status and retrained as part of a new combat unit. His new unit then deloyed to Iraq to escort convoys at the height of the fighting. His vehicle was blown up twice and his convoys were regularly attacked by road side bombs or AK-47 and RPG fire.
A number of his comrades were killed, several right before his eyes.
Now he is out of the Army and home for sevreal years. He has brain injury from the explosions, not crippling, but a problem. And the dreaded Post traumatic stress disorder. This comes from from the hundreds of days on the road waiting for the bomb or the attack, the stress of wating builds up, once the attack happens it is almost a relief.
He has yet to figure out how badly he was used, and I have not expressed that opinion. This was his experience, not mine, so he will have to come to terms with it.
Too many lies were told so the establishment could get their war on Iraq. It is not the elites who paid any price for it, it is always the patriotic young guy who thought he was doing his duty to his fellow citizens. Jesus, how dumb we can be when young!
Jack, you have my profound sympathy, and I wish your family the very best possible outcome.
The mental toll that these troops are going through cannot be explained, only experienced. In Viet Nam, the tour was for a year. Very few did more than one tour, and then it was almost always voluntary. Now, with these guys facing 3rd, 4th, and even 5th deployments, the damage inflicted on them is literally mind blowing.
The fear and depression that must be overcome on a daily basis equate to a continous internal battle. Imagine waking up every morning wondering if you would live to see tomorrow. Think how it must feel to ride those roads waiting for the next ambush or IED, while that knot in your stomach gets bigger and bigger. What every combat soldier soon learns is how random violent events are, and no matter how good you are, fate can come to visit. You know in your gut that if you stay long enough, your rondezvous with fate will arrive. That knowledge brings depression and anger. The survivors come home with it, and it has to go somewhere. It may be the common drug/alcohol manisfestation, or divorce, or an inability to blend back in, or even suicide.
The true criminals among us are the vermin that pass for leadership. The ones who sell us out to needless war. War for profit. I have been, and would go again if truly needed...but have told my son hell no, don't you go, because these latest military adventures are criminal.
"some operations after 9/11 wereclearly in our defense. . ."
Which ones were those? I missed them. I must not have been paying attention or watching the MSM.
"I am a veteran who volunteered in war time, even though that war was total BS."
Stupid is as stupid does. Why did you volunteer if you knew it was wrong? To be able to get duty in Germany instead of the rice paddies of SE Asia? If so, why do you call yourself a "veteran"? Veteran of the bier halls?
You have a serious problem in reading comprehension. Do you want to know if I dodged NAM? I am all to familar with the deal at the time, a 3 year enlistment in exhange for a European deployment.
Sorry to burst your angry bubble, but that was not my service, and that was the Army, not my service. Beer Halls? No.
Stupid is as stupid does. And what do you expect from a 17 year old kid who was heavily indoctrinated in America's Right?
Since you know all about it, you reveal your combat record and I'll reveal mine. Hint, was I ever shot at? Yes, I have been shot at with the intent to kill. So what? Plenty of men can say that. Sorry, if I have another life, I will run to Canada and spare myself 6 years of bullshit from the military and bullshit from malcontents like you!
Oh FeralSerf, Are you telling me President George Bush did not defend America after 9/11? He most certainly did. Plenty of dead Taliban can testify to that. Though Mr. Bush dodged NAM by going into the Texas Air National Guard, and then going AWOL, that does not mean he wasn't a commander in chief that the people elected twice!
Fact is he was dead wrong to go into Iraq, he was dead right to go after the terror network in Afghanistan, he should have left after making them pay a price.
Are you trying to claim the Taliban were a threat to America and/or the Taliban had something to do with 9/11? If so, you haven't learned much since you were 17 years young and stupid.
What "terrorist network in Afghanistan"? The "terrorist network" that stopped the flow of desperately needed heroin to America's heartland?
George Bush did not defend America after 9/11 -- there I said it. If you believe otherwise, you're hopeless. He sucked as much wealth out of the middle class as he and his co-conspirators could and transferred it to his friends and superiors. He and his crew were responsible for the deaths of over a million innocent people.
Taliban did not conduct 9/11, totally agree. But they did provide the safe haven for the terrorist network. They even offered to turn Osama over if the USA produced evidence that he was involved in 9/11. That is clear proof Taliban had some measure of control over him and his network.
One might ask why Germany was not bombed, Hamburg was where the plot was hatched and perfected. One might ask why the terrorrists walked right past pass port control and immigration when several were on the terrorrist watch list. One might wonder at the FBI's lack of interests in the Middle Eastern Flight School men. I could go on and on.
The US intelligence and police forces were worse than useless on 9/11.
Bush did attack Taliban in retaliation for their harboring Osama and his friends. That was okay by me. Iraq was a criminal enterprise, just like NAM was a criminal enterprise.
And stop picking on 17 year olds, like you were a god dam genious at 17?
You don't really believe that Osama did 9/11, do you? That the conspiracy theory of all conspiracy theories. It's more accurate to call it a "conspiracy hypothesis" though.
Osama had neither the means nor the opportunity to commit that terrorist act. Means and opportunity of that operation were/are restricted to the American and Israeli government black-op forces. They did it because no one else could do it. Pilots giving command of their aircraft to terrorists with box cutters that didn't get on the flight manifest ? No pilots that I know would have ever done such a thing.
Dude you are way off. Everyone was told back before 9-11 that the smart thing to do in the event of a hijack was to COOPERATE with the hijackers and let the negotiators resolve things. Some stuck to that approach even after they knew that these assholes were going to suicide the plane using it as a weapon!
And oh yes, a fucking passenger jet can so bring down an entire sky scraper, especially the twers because of the high temperatures that the jet fuel reached and the aluminum coating put on the supports that acted like metal tender and caught fire melting the supports.
Jesus H Christ, you 9-11 Truthers have really drank the leftist Bullshit Kool Aid.
You are exactly right.
We should have gone in and killed as many al Qaeda as possible, removed the Taliban and then left the bastards to rebuild on their own dime and blood.
Dan Rather is that you??? Don't you remember how your staff fabricated the AWOL documents? Remember how they were proven more fake than Obama's birth certificate?
History will show that it was correct to go into Iraq. No nukes, yes true. But recall that with Saddam in power the US maintained a huge military presence in Saudi Arabia while Saddam shot at us virtually every day, all the while using the UN's Food for Oil program to hold power. Saddam said before his execution that he would have redeveloped his nuclear capability the moment we were gone, that he made it seem like he still had them to keep the Iranians guessing. Is the Middle East now a zone of peace, no. Is it better than it was, yes. Did it serve our long term interests, yes. Did we pay a lot for that, absolutely.
All that spending and ppl in the rest of the world still hate the US. Go figure.
We are all just jealous of your freedoms.
Romney will need a strong dollar to fund the MIC like that. Good luck explaining to Americans stocks had to get cut in half to protect us from the axis of evil.
If there is one thing America needs it is their free monies.
Besides, the UST needs a weak dollar to pay the existing debt and the Fed wants a weak dollar because they print that shit for free and could give a fuck.
Like defense spending matters with $100 trillion or more in unfunded welfare liabilities.
A .27 cent bullet (defense spending) goes a long ways at reducing the $100 Trillion dollar liabilities if every .27 cent bullet can single handedly eliminate a person that represents a $100,000 liability.
So, actually, defense spending is "investing" in America's future!
Wouldn't it be more cost effective to convert the nation's food supply to ethanol and burn it in a fleet of 5mpg, monster pickup trucks and thereby starve all those little buggers before they even get into kindergarten?
Didn't you ever read about this? In the Vietnam war it took tens of thousands of bullets for each kill.
at this mathematical point, all spending matters
Morally, too. And that includes taxes paid to terrorist regimes.
First off, it should read US Offense Spending....and as for Mitt and Barack: can u say Mirror Image!
Buy physical gold and Silver...while still available.
We are piss poor Empire if you ask me. Historically, Empires would pillage foreign lands in order to reap the spoils (and pay for their expenses). Junkers, I am not an imperialist, I do not condone the actions. But if you choose the path, do it right...
I think youre speaking about the profound incompetence that plagues America now. We cant even be a decent bad guy now. We suck at being good and we suck at being bad. The one thing we are good at is sucking at everything.
Go merica! Fuck yeah!
This article would be far more interesting if the chart included lines for Ron Paul's proposed defense spending in comparison to the two clowns presented.
So, we have a President who has used executive orders to actually invalidate laws that were duly passed by the Congress and signed by past Presidents.
Then, we have Romney.
If some of you guys really think there is no difference between a guy who believes in the rule of law (Romney) and Barack Obama (who believes in whatever he can get away with doing), then you must be smoking something.
That same Ro-money who had the rules changed on the spot in order to shut out Ron Paul at the RNC? He believes in the rule of law? Surely you jest.
What are you talking about? Romney has already made clear he is going to use executive orders to kill Obamacare.
Bush perfected that practice. Just do a very small ammount of reserch.
100k troops @ $11.25billion pa = $112,500 per year per soldier
BASIC PAY FOR ACTIVE DUTY SOLDIERS
Private (E1) $17,892 (Pay for Private (E1) will be slightly lower for the first four months of service.)
Source
Sceptical of those that exaggerate a million times.
are you suggesting a E1 is only costing us 18k per year? with total comp, plus training, housing, feeding, transportation, etc, not to mention that not all soldiers are E1. 100k-ish may not be too much of a stretch.
That's a little more than the cost of one inmate at a Federal prison to the taxpayer.
FYI. The inmate gets paid nothing.
Do judges who throw everyone and their dog into prisons own shares in corporations who build and maintain prisons?
You fucking bet your bottom Dollar they do.
America, i$n't it great?
I for one, am completely tired of all this BS....fake market... PM's fake pricing... all corrupt lying govts...fake debt...fake money....fake claims leading to wars or invasions....lying MSM.... lying from financial news channels.....illegal income taxes..... illegal property taxes....being a slave to the system and bankers.....corrupt corporations....especially Monsatan... Fuck It
If there is an alien by chance reading this please come and take me off this fucking planet
LMAO!!!! With you brother!!