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Hollande Goes The "Full Obama" As The Second Great October Socialist Revolution Takes Place In June
With every passing day, we learn that those pesky socialists in charge of the "Evil Empire" were right all along:
- HOLLANDE SAYS THOSE WHO BENEFITTED MOST IN PAST 5 YRS WILL PAY
- HOLLANDE CALLS ON `PATRIOTIC' FROM WHO EARNED MOST TO CONTRIBUTE
In other words, Obama's "Fairness Doctrine" has just gone airborne. And judging by history is very contagious. Only this time the "other people's money" has run out as the ECB's announcement of condom wrappers as collateral, showed us this morning.
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And stocks fucking love this? What the fuck is going on? This has to be the end.
Stock indexes have not been related to the real world for years. There is no market, no supply and demand ... the price is set by a central planner and the system will collapse. It's been true for centuries.
France entering the PIIGS pen in 3, 2, 1, GO!!
only interventions matter now...
Perfect!
PFIIGS - Proper Fucked Intelligentsia & Illiterate Greedy Slaves
pronounced 'FIGS' - the P and the second I (Ireland) are silently sobbing
barliman
Don't forget Cyprus, so maybe: FCn PIIGS.
FUK PIIGS
I just want to be on record that I was the very first human to coin the acronym 'FUKPIIGS'.
Sure, it may seem simple to some of you now, but that's only after the fact. Adding an 'F' and 'UK' to PIIGS, and then rearranging the order took sheer genius, I tell you.
So ...
... should we call you 'Pig Fukker" for short?
'Cause "Fuk Piggers' just doesn't roll off the tongue that well.
;->
barliman
P.S. You KNOW we are not going to call you "Your Majesty" or anything else nice - so don't even go there ...
Sir, you stand as one of the great thinkers of our time.
Please don't misinterpret. It was no great accomplishment in the annals of mankind, on a relative scale.
*Now that I recall things more clearly, I believe it was another ZH regular who at least prompted me to rearrange the alphabets, if not actually doing it so herself/himself outright. I just want to profess that I confess my memory might be amiss.
It will be PFIIGS now just like in older German i.e. Pfenning.
Better dead than in the red.
That's fine. The people who benefitted the most are state employees. Six figure pensions with constant pay raises while everyone else was being cut.
Oh wait......govt employees are probably excluded from any argument the socialist dickheads ever some up with.
Our vision of the market is no different than other longheld suppositions. The US will always be number one. The dollar will always be king. Stocks rise based on PE and outlook, etc. The main driver of the market is the manipulation of debt that was inevitable when we became a consumer rather than savings economy.
The major flaw of central planning - and the reason Socialism always fails - is that true value gets distorted. The USSR could not determine how much they were losing because prices were set by political and not market forces. The market, if allowed, always corrects for excesses.
It's gotten so bad that even CEOs who blithely admit we are committing financial suicide call for more FED "easing" (debt) because they want higher stock prices.
ThingamaJIGs bitchez!
Courtesy of Barack "I'm not trying to 'redistribute wealth" Obama...
forget Obamas jingoism
forget Hollandes jingoism
this rhetoric is a smokescreen for the usual socialist gameplan, replacing God in society with socialists, replacing the productive with the unproductive (ie. useless worthless totally inept and destructive socialists)
never in the history of man have so few (socialists) rammed their heads so far up their own arses on what they'll achieve and always come out with the same result: a completely bankrupt country, social chaos (see Greece)
Ere we go again boys, you know the fucking ending, you've seen it in hundreds of countries through the past 2 centuries since Marx replaced IQ and graft with pig ignorant idealistic jingoism
Obumma and Hollande will hum the mantra to deflect from their total incompetence at achieving anything... anybody following these toerags deserve what they can't see coming
In politics, few talents are as richly rewarded as the ability to convince parasites that they are victims. ... generosity is seen as an admission of guilt, and the reparations as inadequate compensation for injustices – leading to worsening behavior by the recipients.
~ Thomas Sowell
When the Muslim and African invaders elect a Jew president, you know your country is finished. Save those old postcards.
France is the sleeping giant. After their collapse, they'll be a great example of what happens to a socialist system.
That's weird. I look around the world and the Commies and Socialists have all the money, and the biggest capitalist powers, us, the Brits and the Japanese are all asking them very nicely for loans. Northern Europe is looking rather strong too. Maybe it's not Socialism per se after all?
Shhhhh! Facts have no place in the a ZH comment thread about politics.
Quick, mutter something about drones over Nebraska before they catch on to you!
I know! I get a LOT of that in here! Yikes. Sometimes I think it must be a slow day at the RNC war room or something!
" the biggest capitalist powers, us, the Brits and the Japanese are all asking them very nicely for loans"
Maybe if you replaced capitalist with fascist or corporatist, it would be clearer. The term capitalist is a very nifty cover that hints at free markets, while actually indicating socialism for the corporations.
How is France more socialist than America? America spends more tax money per person on medical care, and yet people still have to pay out of their own pockets as well.
Bingo. Corporatist works as a much better name for the US system.
America is as socialist as France, but (no) thanks to the Reserve Currency status, France will be the first to go.
'Commies & Socialists' have all the money?
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Alright, I kno you're just a troll, but I'll bite... It's Friday & francis_sawyer is spoiling for a fight...
Question 1: Who are the 'Commies & Socialists' you refer to that 'have all the money'? (either answer, or take your troll shit elsewhere)...
Yawn. Now I'm getting bored again. You mean to tell me you don't know who the biggest Commie and Socialist countries are, and who we're deeply indebted to? Really?
Go ahead, put your little thinking cap on, use Google, and give it your best shot. I'm hopeful. Really, I am. This could be a big day for you!
I went to that Google thigamajig (first time) and man it's fucking awesome. h/t to you.
So I typed in Capitalism and here's what came up:
": an economic system characterized by private or corporate ownership of capital goods, by investments that are determined by private decision, and by prices, production, and the distribution of goods that are determined mainly by competition in a free market."
So your contention is the US, UK and Japan are purely capitalist systems?
Okay, go ahead. Parse this in some way I would never have thought to, or that really means anything. Shape it any way you need to so your premise fits, I really don't care. I'll bet I could find a way to parse that we, the Brits and Japan are Socialists or Commies too. But what would be the point?
Now you're just acting childish.
You said "...the biggest capitalist powers, us, the Brits and the Japanese..." And I ask you a simple question if you consider those three countries capitalist systems. It's a yes or no question but I don't think you'll answer as you realize your position is indefensible.
No ~ what you DID, was the following... You said the following...
"That's weird. I look around the world and the Commies and Socialists have all the money, and the biggest capitalist powers, us, the Brits and the Japanese are all asking them very nicely for loans"
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So now you're saying that "us, the Brits, & the Japanese are all asking THEM for loans"...
Asking WHO? (You have YET to identify the "Commies & Socialists" that HAVE ALL THE MONEY)...
Look ~ I'm going to help you along here because you're clearly retarded...
If THEM happens to be the "Russians & Chi-Coms"... Well I'll inform you that we're not asking for loans from E-I-T-H-E-R...
Why?
Because neither would lend anything to us if they had it (which negates your first argument whereby you stare that they "have ALL THE MONEY"... They don't have money, they have resources, land, & population)... The experience of "asking them for money" happened for awhile with the Chi-Coms, but now it's over... The only ones we can "ask for money" anymore are the fucking Jew confetti printers)...
What WE (in America) have is DEBT... (but we also have resources, & a bit of land)... JPM, GS, & Bernanke are welcome at any moment to come to my unmortgaged property and try to take that away from me at the business end of a long barreled firearm...
So again... WHAT'S YOUR FUCKING POINT (other than to troll around and post a bunch of useless bullshit)?...
US has borrowed about $2 trillion from Chi-Coms. A lot of it was mortgage loans which we rushed to give them face value of when that market fell apart instead of lettting them take a loss
US - China trade deficit larger than ever. It mostly gets cycled back into US government debt. How is that not borrowing from the Chi-Coms?
"The experience of "asking them for money" happened for awhile with the Chi-Coms, but now it's over"
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Can you fucking read or is your batman mask blocking your eyes?
& even so... WTF is this "money" that we're borrowing... It's not fucking money, it's accounting entries on a ledger sheet that eventually gets:
- inflated away by printing
- vanishes after a war is fought
- gets stuffed away together with the Arc of the Covenant in the same warehouse at the end of an Indiana Jones movie...
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And so, based on nimrod (above) analysis... How the fuck does 'communism or socialism' even remotely apply to the aggregate argument?... Humor me...
Fourth rule: only two guys to a fight.
Thanks, but this isn't really that hard.
Hey bobnoxy, when you're one neuron short of being able to form a synaspe you'd be better off commenting on the Huffington Post. Here's the URL:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com
That's so perjorative and so <your phobia here>-ist. ;-)
- Ned
{after all, ZH rules are an "evolving paradigm."}
Fuckpig.
What I'd really like to see is for you to stop being a fucking pussy & NOMINATE (kindly asked), who you are referring to (who are the biggest 'Commie & Socialist' countries)...
Why?
Because if you're talking about countries who are supposedly POLITICALLY aligned to those ideal (vs. ones who are covertly aligned to that system), we have two separate arguments...
So... BRING IT... ANSWER MY FUCKING QUESTION & let the debating games commence...
Let me guess. You couldn't figure out the Google thing, huh? I was really rooting for you too, Gomer.
Yeah ~ it was fun while it lasted, wasnit?
Shrivel up like your fucking dick when it comes time to actually put forth an argument... Thanks for playing, your set of steak knives awaits you at the door...
Shhh! Your neighbors are going to call the cops again about that crazy guy in the trailer next door that keeps screaming at his computer. You'll scare the old people again!
Thanks for that laugh. This is the place to go for the red neck reasoning feast of non ideas. I only get scared if I read these responses more than twice a year but when I do I always get a chuckle. Some of these fruit cakes live on this board, probably on SSI disability.
Did you really expect a straightforward answer to your question? Lesson learned: don't feed the trolls.
If you're gonna bait 'em you gotta feed 'em.
I'll feed 'em when the mood strikes me... My feeling though is that this MF won't even last the first round... Fine with me, I'm in the mood for a TKO...
This one doesn't seem to have any particularly interesting moves. He'll likely sputter out shortly after accusing you of listening to Limbaugh all day. We'll see.
He already did really.
"I get a LOT of that in here! Yikes. Sometimes I think it must be a slow day at the RNC war room or something!"
No, we won't see... Why?
Because he made the mistake of framing the initial argument with 'Communists & Socialists'... Which, these days, are utterly divorced with perception as to their root meanings... Worse ~ he talked about "countries" that were supposedly communist or socialist...
None of that means jack shit anymore in a world where bankers simply use these [former] ideologies to HIJACK the thought processes of gullible masses as a divide & conquer tactic...
I'm guesing our 'FRIEND' is either network news editor (who is paid by political parties, who are paid by confetti printing bankers)... GET THE FUCK OUT OF MY LIFE ON A FRIDAY NIGHT... I've got some fish to catch this weekend & don't need to be bothered with this shit...
Sounds like Redneck heaven to me! Don't sink the rubber raft or anything. I'd kind of miss you in here!
as long as you're not responsible for patching the motherfucking thing, I'm not worried about it sinking...
Never had to. I can afford a real boat.
make sure you take your 'gold bars' out with you on your trips... Oh wait...
Er...and with that, I'm done for the day. But thanks. I had a blast! We'll do it again real soon, I hope!
Yeah ~ My best wishes to you & your TITANIC...
The "capitalists" are taking "loans" from the "socialists" because the "citizens" of the "capitalist" countries will believe that the "socialist" countries have a different economic system, thus money to lend, and continue to believe the current monetary circle jerk that is our globalized economy.
You get junked because you still believe there is an actual dichotomy in political systems.
news flash!
There are no capitalist or socialist countries, just slightly different brands of authoritarianism. The boot is increasing the pressure on the human face. Welcome to dystopia, I hope you enjoy the taste of leather.
Most ZH'ers know the difference between lenders and borrowers is the lenders haven't figured out just how fucked they are while the REALLY big borrowers know fully well how fucked they are - so they might as well continue to take more money from the lenders.
You are getting down checks for not knowing this elementary fact and thinking a political classification is something beyond a label to hide behind.
barliman
No, I'm getting down arrows because too many in here think the way they were taught in grade school. Socialism bad, free markets good. Just like any poll run on Fox News would say that Democrats bad, Republicans...sorry, almost forgot...Libertarians good.
I explained to you why you get down arrows.
It's funny that even the trolls don't know where to place the Libertarians on the curve.
Ooh, I know, I know! Pick me!
Okay, a Libertarian is just someone who's too embarrassed to admit voting for Bush and Cheney. Twice. Right?
You must be new here or off your meds. Bush doesn't get any love around here and, sorry to disappoint you, Barry doesn't either.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nolan_Chart
IRL I love arguing with people because they feel a need to slap me in a compartment before addressing my arguments.
When they think "they have me" I will make an argument that messes which box they tried to put me in.
pods
Too simplified and self-sponsored by a Libertarian. "Right" and "left" are meaningless labels. Are libertarians conservative? (Neither fits the "right wing" corner on Nolan's chart, but Libertarians generally aren't considered "conservatives").
It's an axis between desire for greater or less personal liberty and greater or less government power.
A populist desires fewer personal freedoms and greater government control.
A conservative desires fewer personal freedoms and less government control.
A liberal desires more personal freedoms and greater government control.
A libertarian desires more personal freedoms and less government control.
Too simplified. Conservatives and Libertarians both cherish individual sovereignty and reject government intrusion, but they are very different in many respects. So how does Nolan's chart or your comment distinguish them?
Where do you get the notion that a conservative desire less personal freedom (than who, by the way)? Where does that myth originate?
Many of the so-called conservatives I see on TV are very interested in curtailing the rights of others to live as they see fit. As Rick Santorum said, "“I am not a libertarian, and I fight very strongly against libertarian influence within the Republican Party and the conservative movement. I don’t think the libertarians have it right when it comes to what the Constitution is all about. I don’t think they have it right as to what our history is, and we are not a group of people who believe in no government.”
Well, for one, the only time I am aware that the conservatives on SCOTUS broadly applied the Commerce Clause was in opposition to the right of states to make their own medical marijuana laws. Of course that is just part of the greater "Just Say No" mentality widely promoted by prominent Republicans. And who can forget Dan Quayle's debate with "Murphy Brown" over a fictional anchorwoman's right to bear a child out of wedlock. They just can't stop themselves from butting in.
You're confusing Republicans with conservatives.
Maybe. But I think you need to take into account that these axes are sliding scales. One can be conservative/libertarian or liberal/libertarian or conservative/populist and so on.
Well, our conservative europeans like bans on personal freedoms. In the matters of immigration, marriage, divorce, gays, co-habitation without marriage, drugs, feminism, prison terms, child care, education, religion, military, culture, "family values", thrift,music, language, national pride, arts and speech. That is what defines them.
Use the grid as per www.politicalcompass.org/
economic freedom - control x axis
Political/social freedom - control y axis
tis a more accurate placement, similar to your Nolan Chart, but, imo, better.
This is what we teach to our students up here in the Great White North (Alberta anyway)...
The grid is useful, the test not so much. It has me near the center slightly into the Authoritarian Left quadrant which is a strange place for a voluntaryist with a personal preference for anarchy to be.
The test can be manipulated to say what you want :) You are given four selections, think of them as numbers, -2, -1, 1, 2... they will move your position on the x or the y axis. If you choose the less extreme options it will have you near the center.
My students have to try and answer the questions as individuals from history, Heyek, Keynes, Smith, Locke, Hobbes, Marx, Hitler, Stalin etc... to try and get them into the appropriate positions. The exercize is to get them to "empathize" with different philosophies so as to understand them better. The test is not perfect but it is an excellent catalyst for deeper discussions as to why someone is where they are. I don't tell them how to manipulate the test until the end of the lesson (makes for a good discussion on test taking as well).
Critical thinking bitchez, who knew it could happen in high school...
Very few regulars here play the Republicans good, Democrats bad game (or visa versa). If you run into someone spouting the Republican Party line then by all means have at them. But if you try to instigate with broad and inaccurate characterizations of those with whom you are speaking then you're just going to look ridiculous.
Too late ...
bobnoxy is the new ridiculous
barliman
It's too late, baby.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WuPq2LdmiOo
Hi Redneck's for Max Prosperity.
Brainwashed liberal alert.
You're a fucking moron.
Please move to North Korea. The let us know how the "Rich" countries are.
That's all you got? North Korea? You could have had more time, you know?
That's one hell of an argument. Nearly impossible to refute. But isn't that always the way with vague innuendo?
I have no idea what I'm supposed to do with that brilliant piece of insight. At least you took a little more time to think about it than the North Korea guy did.
You're supposed to buckle down, state a clear thesis and attempt to support your position with documentation and logical arguments.
I thought this was a blog, not where I'd go to present my poly/sci/econ graduate thesis. Geez! Really?
It's Fight Club, dude. Don't be a pussy.
You just ran out of gas again, didn't you? So soon?
I am curious... why won't you fight me bobeh?
Because it would look bad, beating up an idiot and all. Bad form.
You are right... I would not want to look bad.
I don't know how to break this to you . . .
This is not HuffPo.
Critical thinking is a requirement if you are going to post on ZH
ahhhhhhhh
12 weeks 1 day
READ MORE - POST LESS
Much better people than you have had to learn to think before posting on here.
Some of them made the grade - to be more specific ideology and "effort" (what you equate to success) will not carry the day here.
barliman
I already gave him the HuffPo URL, but to no avail.
I'll make an easy definitiion for him of libertarian values: Libertarians value the individual over the collective. Freedom over false nanny state "security". When they have a problem in their lives they look into a mirror to indentify the cause-they never look to a central authority or "expert" to solve their problems. They know how to do a least of subset of the following real things: program computers, fix machines, both electrical and mechanical, design novel devices, fix electrical and plumbing systems, apply the scientific method to solve problems and generally eschew organized superstition (religion) in favor of reason. They ridicule nonsense such as "fairness", "income redistibution", fiat currencies and fractional reserve banking, recognizing there can be no sound economy with sound money.
Its called theft,fraud,graft alot of it via taxation by government. The District of Columbia is also doing well compared to the rest of the country. Must be because they are such a manufacturing powerhouse. /sarc
Still don't know the difference between socialism and fascism? What the world has now is the latter, not the former.
Doesn't matter. Mussolini cut his teeth with the socialist party in Italy. Its always about a rich thieving criminal cabal worshipped by a bunch serfs.
Wrong, to be quite honest, true socialism and true capitalism has worked until the rule of law has been cast aside. In fact, many systems work so long as real consequences for bad behavior are in place. Regardless of where you start, once there are no consequences (reaction for every action - as is enforced in Nature) then you end up with the theives and the serfs. Usually you get to just a single thief in a truly fascist state (i.e. Hitler).
Once is becomes clear to everyone that none of the laws of contracts are being enforced, then shit gets real. Could be a while. I was talking to another person who I know also owns considerable rentals and property. I was telling him how great it was to be done paying on another mortgage and to actually have the bank note for yet another property. He response was "what note?"
The "educational" system of the last 30+ years has done a very good job at trying to erase common sense and warp one's idea of justice.
Moreover, all of today's youth have been lead to believe that they are "all winners". Nature and life in general will teach them otherwise.
Yeah well good luck with that why you debate about socialism and fascism the banks will end up with all your shit.
Unless, I bet on the banks, or I was a bank of course.
What you overlook when evaluating Europe vs. the US is that the US has paid for their defense for generations, freeing up vast amounts of European money for domestic social programs they couldnt otherwise afford,
If the US would only get out of Europe and stop playing the sucker, the added costs to their nations would hit like a ton of bricks.
Yes, and that which cannot be sustained, won't.
For the past couple hundred years, Europe has only been attacked by Europe. The EEC was a way to prevent that. It's replacing defense and it's a lot cheaper.
your comment hits one nail on the head here in ZH forum :
Facts count less than prejudice in this forum. As you correctly pointed out never in the history of the last seventy years has so much paper wealth been destroyed so fast by so few to the detriment of so many all over the world. And its not over...And, its been done by the most libertarian regime that the western capitalist world has ever known since Pax Americana began in 1945. Those that are responsible for it; all sons of Ayn Rand gone viral in hubristic certitude, where greed is definitely considered as good. Its become the very essence of the American dream : the pursuit of happiness is a million $ account even if its all borrowed. All John Galts down to their socks running after material wealth. Goldwater once said of Reagan, "this guy makes me feel like a socialist shill". And the world has gone ape shit happy at copying its model. And this is what it has begot. So its worth asking a few basic questions like you do before churning out the usual packaged answers like a Mcdo burger from the microwave oven, under its shrink wrapped or plastic box cover.
Inspite of this blinding evidence the inexorable belief here is that the model created is STILL the best in the world. So facts don't count and ideology does. Were the FDR days as bad as that? Was JFK such a socialist shill on the economic front? How prejudice bends the mind. Why oh why has northern europe got a better model. Why oh why does socialist germany export so much more. Why oh why does France enjoy such a enjoyabe geography and natural environment of quality food and culture...without suffering from a feeling of industrial jungle. All surely because they copy the USSR and are heading to same terminal point. Not the USA as its an entrepreneurial paradise of John Galts. Right?...
Anyways, for those of us who think we have open and QUESTiONING minds and can look back beyond 1776 on human experience recorded, who can count and try to reason, before we spit out our preferences, I will say that Americans do not understand the interplay between politics and economia. And it shows over here. Sad but true.
Its not just socialist france that will have to eat humble pie, its the whole first world. Thank you PAx Americana for having created this huge global mess.
Wow are you out of touch with reality. I'd like to know where this libreratarian regime you talk about is. It sure isn't the US. Our tax revenue is 24% of GDP. That's 24% of the economy that's not free nor liberatarian. That's 24% of our economy spent to manipulate and distort free markets. I suppose I'm wasting my time because the big obvious facts utterly destorying your premise that our country is liberatarian, or in any way limted or free, won't matter to you.
hahaha you are living in never never land. Learn to count about an economy.
So you perception of TRUE libertarian economy is 0% taxes! hahaha. Ok. The USA is still the far west and nobody owes anything to anybody. Just go for your gun. If you draw faster than the other guy, his horse, his wife and his farm are yours.
Good luck!
tl;dr
I have no idea what you re using as criteria for callling a country capitalist. If it's free markets than none of the three countries you name qualify. Name a major market in the US that has not been manipulated into oblivion by the government and Fed. Socialism in the form of Medicare and Medicade (as well as health care laws that make you dependent on corporations for your health care) has turned the US health care market into one of the most expensive in the world. Housing manipulated, banking manipulated, automotive industry bailed out and manipulated. It's laughable to think the US is capitalist.
Shhh, facts like North Sea Oil make your Northern Socialist powers look good for a while.. Also culturally homogenous countries also make that a bit easier but most of those Northern socialists will expand their "Malmo's" till it crushes their nuts and their balance sheet.
Only Norway has a lot of oil. They put part of the money into a soverign wealth fund to make it last longer than the oil. Quite well funded. I believe about $100K per person at this point. In addition, their socialist partly government owned oil company is buying up US oil fields.
Norway minimum wage about $40K. That comes with free health insurance even if you don't work. A Big mac costs $10 but still....
Socialists have all the money? Yeah, N Korea, Cuba, Venezuela, Argentina and the semi-socialist PIGS are just rolling in dough. I am still amazed at how little folks know about the rest of the world. There is simply no comparison between the material wealth of the West and say, the poverty of Pakistan, Chad or Russia.
If France wants to socialize, organize and control their society, go for it., But don't whine and beg (like Hollande) for others to foot the bill. Get it from the idiots who voted for the guy.
But the socialists have been running the US, Brit and Japan for 40 years or more. Little by little all of the capitalist system was replaced except for the name. That was left so that on the ultimate collapse of the debtor countries the blame can be laid on the capitalist doorstep.
It's really just clever marketing.
Which commies or socialists would those be, that have "all the money"?
Do you mean India and China perhaps? Ah, then you mean the two commies and socialists that have become much less communist and socialist relative to what they were 20 - 30 years ago.
THank you for clarifying that.
Bonnie & Clyde had a lot of success too (for awhile!)
The old soviet union already showed the world what happens to socialist systems but those who do not learn from history are condemed to re-live it!
What do the French bankers think of Hollande?
Dude, don't be fooled, banks love a command economy. They flourish.
Command and control!
Check this out from 1911 in the St. Louis dispatch.
http://www.wildboar.net/multilingual/easterneuropean/russian/literature/...
Yeah - that's great cartoon; love it.
How do current French bankers view Hollande? I really don't know, and you didn't really show me.
messianically, rex...
Do you think he would have been elected if the bankers didn't like him?
In 1981, a socialist was elected in France. He nationalized the banks. Less then 15 months later, he realized that was a mistake and spent the next 13 years privatizing more companies than all the French presidents combined.
I guess my question has to do with the public line given by French (and other European) banks. Like I said, I really don't know. What are they saying about him? I'm just curious, not trying to make a point.
Rule #64: The market ALWAYS wins over government, even if it takes a very long time.
Does he include himself in this chant?
What do the Ashkenazi Jew Criminal Banksters think of hollande? They are the real power any other banker is a puppet.
France needing a bailout will be the trigger for gold to go apeshit.
All the lies are culminating in a crash and burn.
You can't save a failing socialist state by electing a bigger socialist.
I still want to see a picture of the first person they hit for that 75%.
Still don't know the difference between socialism and fascism do you?
I just spotted the difference between an asshole and a nitwit.
Based on the intellect of that response, I'd say you have shown everyone what an asshole or nitwit looks like. Nice work.
ROFL !!!!
"What incredibly stupid things can I say before next week's meeting to piss Frau Merkel off?"
This guy must really want it rough when Angela gets out the strap-on !?!
barliman
So this is your manifestation of "Much better people than you have had to learn to think before posting on here." re your little pissing contest above. I see you are contributing heavily to the "read more - post less" and "critical thinking as a requirement to posting on ZH" meme with that gem.
yid asks other yids to cough up ill gotten gains.
since that wont be happening theyll just have to seize all goy assets (again).
Aren't French socialists really communists? I really do not see any difference between socialists and communists
It's really more of a degrees of difference rather than absolute difference.
With Communists, everything belongs to the State, and thus, (in theory) to everyone equally.
With Socialists, most of everything belongs to the State, but you get to keep a chunk of your own stuff, to encourage people to work harder to try to accumulate more stuff to be slightly better off than others.
Actually, Communism in theory states that the workers control the means of production, but in reality the State controlls all means of production. Thus Communism in today's world ever since it's introduction is actually Fascism. Both economies are totally controlled by the State via one political party. The Communists lie to themselves by saying their State is controlled by the so-called "workers party" but the workders can only vote for one party... the communist party. The reality is the "workers" have no say at all as all Communist states are controlled by an Oligarchy of Communist Party Leaders.
Not quite correct, under totalitarian Communism the state owns the industry, under totalitarian Fascism it is privately owned.
You are correct in that they are both totalitarian, but there are substantial differences regarding the ownership of private property and its use.
OPM Bitchez!
Send what you have to Obama. He is transforming this nation as we speak, and needs your help.
http://www.barackobama.com/news/entry/the-obama-event-registry?utm_sourc...
In other news:
Moody's Downgrades $45 Billion of Munis Related to Lowered Banks
http://www.bondbuyer.com/news/moodys-downgrades-45-billion-munis-related...
Deutschland uber Greichland, hündinnen!
HOLLANDE CALLS ON "PATRIOTIC" FROM WHO EARNED THE MOST TO CONTRIBUTE..............good luck with that one scooter.
Obummer isn't a socialist (or anything else) - he is a shill, a puppet, a construct, a sting.
Communism: Masses starve. Brother number one rides around in a limo.
Fascism: Masses starve. Hitler rides around in a limo.
Same thing. Different sides of the same coin. Left/Right/Socialism/Capitalism/Black/White = Divide and Conquer...
Left / right is a shell game.
Obama a socialist... yeah sure. ZH always a retard when it comes to shit like this.
Socialism is a natural reaction to kleptocracy.
Fascism is a natural reaction to kleptocracy, especially when the fucking kleptos are still in charge. Wake the fuck up, where is John Corzine?
Your comment is so stupid that I won't even take the time to deconstruct it. -1
Right, because kleptos care about society (socialism) and not themselves. < sarc off > Who's comment is stupid again?
So true. ZH tends to forget about the kleptocrats once the word "socialism" is spewed. They get lost in their emotional response and forget to think. As if any of the kleptocrats in charge was anything close to socialists. They're a bunch of plutocrats, nothing further away from socialism. But hey, the commie boogeyman never dies. Not even after 60 years and the end of the biggest communist nation ever... Oh ZH'ers, you sho love your serfdom, dontcha?
If you can't recognize socialism that makes you the retard.
Or maybe you don't know what socialism is, and recognize it where it ain't.
Obama is indeed not a socialist. He is a communist. His father was a communist. His grandparents were communist. He is a natural born communist.