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Thu, 08/18/2011 - 17:22 | 1574793 egdeh orez
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did you account for rent?

Thu, 08/18/2011 - 17:23 | 1574798 egdeh orez
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I'm watching Final Destination 7... starring Bank of America

Thu, 08/18/2011 - 17:28 | 1574811 Pladizow
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What owner of gold would be stupid enough to give it up for a single family home.

Wait a couple of years and for the same amount of gold, youll be able to buy the neighborhood.

The case for $20K/oz gold: http://goldsilver.com/the-debt-collapse-and-why-gold-silver-are-rising/?utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=GoldSilver+-+8172011&utm_content=GoldSilver+-+8172011+CID_cae0c95a3bb662ff17a73464c417ab4d&utm_source=GoldSilver+Email+Marketing&utm_term=Dont+miss+seeing+this+valuable+video

Thu, 08/18/2011 - 17:29 | 1574829 MarketTruth
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Carrying cost on gold = $0

Carrying cost on home = infinite tax increases by city/state, insurance premiums going up, needed normal upkeep, etc.

Thu, 08/18/2011 - 17:41 | 1574881 HoofHearted
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The prices of homes will get a whole lot cheaper in gold...bitchez.

Thu, 08/18/2011 - 17:46 | 1574896 Jack Kreuz
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And even if they don't go lower in gold, not one of the 7 million unemployed will be able to rent it from you anyway.

Thu, 08/18/2011 - 17:58 | 1574932 MarketTruth
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Maybe one of the 45 million people can pay you with their food stamps?

Thu, 08/18/2011 - 18:33 | 1575041 Manthong
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They will get cheaper faster in silver if you don't mind using a dolly.

Thu, 08/18/2011 - 19:29 | 1575180 A Lunatic
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Wake me up when you can buy a house with a mere three loaves of bread, a can of Red Feather butter, and one jar of raspberry jam. Until then they're still overvalued.

Thu, 08/18/2011 - 19:12 | 1575138 HomelessCEO
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I'd trade my $200/mo in stamps for a roof over my head. Any takers?

Thu, 08/18/2011 - 18:37 | 1575052 DC
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Not many landlords I know will rent to the unemployed, how about the 150 million or so employed?

Thu, 08/18/2011 - 17:59 | 1574936 CrashisOptimistic
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There will very soon be a carrying cost of gold.

Never EVER forget: The gov't will do ANYTHING to keep the balls in the air.  They will never outlaw gold or confiscate it.  They will tax it.  They will tax transactions at 70%.

If you were them, wouldn't you?

Thu, 08/18/2011 - 18:04 | 1574955 trav7777
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see "Greece"...or see "about anywhere else."

The government can TRY a lot of things; doesn't mean they can make them stick.  They tax drug transactions at "jail" right now and those seem to be sailing right along.

Thu, 08/18/2011 - 18:14 | 1574988 SilverRhino
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i believe I can speak for most Americans when I reasonably say.  

FUCK compliance with bullshit laws like that.   Say hello black market

Thu, 08/18/2011 - 19:21 | 1575160 Tuco Benedicto ...
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"All laws repugnant to the U. S. Constitution are null and void."  --  Marbury v.  Madison  1803

Thu, 08/18/2011 - 20:09 | 1575256 A Lunatic
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You might want to let Congress know.

Fri, 08/19/2011 - 10:47 | 1577229 fallout11
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They just forgot. Pitchforks and torches will remind 'em though....ah, who am I kidding, that's another thing that will never happen.

Thu, 08/18/2011 - 18:30 | 1575031 LongBalls
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Retail investors by in large do not move the price of gold. Institutions do. They will never let this happen. Central Banks around the world are buying up gold like crazy. 

Thu, 08/18/2011 - 18:35 | 1575046 ferret
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They very well may institute a licence to possess gold, renewable annually, of course, for large fees.  Covers the big boys, and allows them to control the market.

Thu, 08/18/2011 - 19:19 | 1575154 Tuco Benedicto ...
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If I were them I would look for honest work, but you are right.  The demons will do whatever is necessary to stay in power.  It would not matter how many dead bodies piled up.    Tuco

Thu, 08/18/2011 - 20:40 | 1575327 samsara
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As If,   Ya,  Like they tax 70% on the transaction  when one buys an Oz. of pot.

You think like an Honest person.  While that may have been Admiral in other times,  it will get you killed in the future.      Learn to  Think Like an Outlaw.  

How do you  suppose those Wall Street guys got so much money?  THEY THINK LIKE OUTLAWS. 

Read your post.   Don't Do any 'Legal"  transactions.    Have no income 'On the Books'  Just like the big guys.  Nothing to Tax.

Black and Flea markets will be ubiquitious. 

Thu, 08/18/2011 - 22:08 | 1575654 Ironmaan
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Jesus said, "render unto Caesar, what is Caesar's"

Well, that begs the question, what the fuck is Caesar's and as far as I'm concerned anything above 20% is thievery and I'll do what I have to do to keep my cash/gold etc. http://guerillatics.com

Thu, 08/18/2011 - 19:38 | 1575192 Bicycle Repairman
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Flipping houses made sense.  Being a landlord or owner makes you a target.

Thu, 08/18/2011 - 17:22 | 1574794 electronpaul
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that chart is going lower....

Thu, 08/18/2011 - 17:44 | 1574893 Citxmech
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Way lower.

Thu, 08/18/2011 - 17:47 | 1574902 legal eagle
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Yes, I think the "moment" will be long and shaped like a hockey stick.....

Thu, 08/18/2011 - 18:24 | 1575014 unununium
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To be fair, 2nd derivitive looks positive.

Thu, 08/18/2011 - 17:22 | 1574795 Infinite QE
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Still early in the game. I see the gold max/housing low point coming in 2013. Not to say it may go out lower and potentially not even be worth addressing if 'merica comes more and more unglued. 

Thu, 08/18/2011 - 17:26 | 1574813 DaveyJones
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I vote for your third sentence

Thu, 08/18/2011 - 19:40 | 1575197 Bicycle Repairman
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It will go much, much lower.  Real estate is dead for a generation.

Fri, 08/19/2011 - 00:41 | 1575796 Sokhmate
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+One Generation (in luie of voting)

Fri, 08/19/2011 - 10:49 | 1577249 fallout11
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Right you are. No bubble in economic history has ever reinflated. Ever.  

Sat, 08/20/2011 - 11:18 | 1580996 Bicycle Repairman
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Oh it'll reinflate alright.  Right after my generation (boomers) downsizes into urns.  See you in 2040.

Thu, 08/18/2011 - 17:37 | 1574871 Greater Fool
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Everytime I think we've seen the low home price / low interest rate sweet spot, I just wait 6 months or so and another one comes along. People have been trying to call a bottom on this thing for 4 years now at least...I see ample reason to believe that this isn't it, either. 2013 maybe, but when CSHPI started turning south, 2011 seemed an impossibly long time to have to wait for the correction to end, and yet here we all are....

Thu, 08/18/2011 - 17:47 | 1574900 NotApplicable
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Given that the US housing market has yet to be nationalized (officially), there's no telling how the market will look as we go forward. Well, other than that unglued part. That's pretty much assured.

Thu, 08/18/2011 - 17:23 | 1574800 George the baby...
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I'm surprised that spam hasn't done better.  But I'm sure spam will come into her own in the next few years.

Thu, 08/18/2011 - 17:30 | 1574838 fuu
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Spam still accounts for a decent percentage of Hormel's profitability.

Thu, 08/18/2011 - 17:51 | 1574911 Spastica Rex
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I love Spam, and I'm not even Hawaiian.

Thu, 08/18/2011 - 17:59 | 1574938 RobD
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Spam=Food of the Gods! Slice it thin and fry it in bacon grease until crisp on the outside. Yummm. In all seriousness spam is a great survival food. Protein and lots of fat and salt, all of witch will be in short supply when the SHTF.

Thu, 08/18/2011 - 19:16 | 1575144 Tuco Benedicto ...
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Thu, 08/18/2011 - 17:26 | 1574801 Dane Bramage
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That (home/farm 4 gold) is the plan, but I'm still going to wait a bit (guessing it'll be even more advantageous to do so).

Thu, 08/18/2011 - 17:43 | 1574892 HoofHearted
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I'm holding out too. Keep getting offers for cheaper and cheaper farmland. When the Greater Depression hits, I'll be trading a few ounces of silver for the farmland and farmhouse plus some livestock. Until then...we just hold.

Thu, 08/18/2011 - 18:05 | 1574966 trav7777
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why in the fuck would anybody ever trade you their farm plus livestock for your stupid few ounces of silver?

Silver isn't that valuable ,nor rare.  And if the farm is not sustainable, why would you trade for it anyway.

You silverbugz are frickin idiots

Thu, 08/18/2011 - 18:37 | 1575053 tmosley
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There is more gold above ground than there is silver.  Silver is consumed in almost every industrial application where it is used.  It is mined as a biproduct of other metals, such that mining silver by itself is not economical (at these prices) for all but a few producers.  As the economy gets worse, and demand for base metals drops, silver production also drops.

But you never let the facts get in the way of your irrational hatred, do you?

Also, why would anyone trade you a farm plus livestock for a suitcase full of paper?  Just because you are (again) too stupid to see why something would happen doesn't mean that it won't.

Also, you are a fucking hypocrite, as you are on the record as owning silver.  Sell your silver.  You don't deserve it.

Thu, 08/18/2011 - 19:53 | 1575227 Nom de Guerre
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Yes.  And increasing amounts of silver are consumed in the healthcare industry.  I get pharma propaganda through my office daily, with more and more items that are promoted to be impregnated with silver ion.  It is a potent, broad-spectrum bactericidal.

Thu, 08/18/2011 - 20:46 | 1575322 Hook Line and S...
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Trav is quite interesting these days.

For one who understands and expounds ad infinitum about the exponential function, he seems to play a devils advocate for his amusement. Yesterday, he was bent on embracing the statement 'that in no way could the collapse of the monetary system' be planned. The intersection of exponential function, fiat money and debt service as performed dozens of times throughout history hasn't been forgotten. The cyclical nature of the scam has been known for thousands of years.

Thu, 08/18/2011 - 21:47 | 1575577 Absinthe Minded
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Thank Christ you two kept it short tonight. You're like Archie and Meathead, but in a bad way.

Thu, 08/18/2011 - 18:38 | 1575055 NuckingFuts
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Agreed trav:  I own a farm. and livestock and there is no fucking way it is selling for a couple shiny coins WTSHTF.  Perhaps your silver might buy you some eggs, maybe even a chicken....... but a few oz buying property is a stupid plan for preparing.

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