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Housing Starts Post Biggest Drop Since August 2011 As Permits Rise

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We just got another indication of how US housing has "bottomed"... if only in terms of promises and strong words. While permits, or promises that at some point in the indefinite future, a house will be built, soared from 723K to an annualized rate of 780K, the highest since September 2008, on expectations of a 730K print, actual holes dug, or Starts plunged from a revised 744K to 708K, the biggest miss of expectations of a modest improvement from the pre-revision number since April 2011, and the biggest sequential drop since August 2011. And while recently all the starts strength was in multi-family units as America prepares to become a renter society, in May it was actually the 1-unit houses that saw an increase from 500K to 516K units, as multi-family tumbled from 236K to 179K. So much for the REO-To-Rent plan? Finally, looking at actual completions, the number tumbled by 10.3% from an annual rate of 667K to 598K in May.

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Tue, 06/19/2012 - 08:43 | 2538940 MFL8240
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Recovery Summer!

Tue, 06/19/2012 - 08:50 | 2538958 Manthong
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A big boom coming in the need to dig holes.

Tue, 06/19/2012 - 09:03 | 2539021 GeezerGeek
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Come November I expect many holes will be dug and filled with the corpses of political careers.

Tue, 06/19/2012 - 09:09 | 2539043 Caviar Emptor
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I built a lean-to out of twigs. That counts!

Tue, 06/19/2012 - 09:17 | 2539067 Taterboy
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Lower housing starts? That's just racist,you know.

Tue, 06/19/2012 - 09:35 | 2539128 Bicycle Repairman
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Housin' ain't comin' back, yo!

Tue, 06/19/2012 - 10:24 | 2539323 icanhasbailout
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Wait 'til you get a load of my new single, "Fat Bottomed Housing"

Tue, 06/19/2012 - 10:08 | 2539248 johnnynaps
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Big whoop! The same soon-to-be political corpses you talk of will still get paid and receive benefits for driving the rest of us into serfdom.

Tue, 06/19/2012 - 09:02 | 2539015 HelluvaEngineer
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Don't distract me with hard numbers.  The only thing I care about is sentiment!

Tue, 06/19/2012 - 09:07 | 2539035 CClarity
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And there we have the "weather phenomena".  With all that good weather over the quarter . . . why weren't they digging holes?  Too busy shopping?  Once again, it just doesn't really add up.  

Or maybe it's that pesky offered credit forward to fund the consumption.  Working for autos and for a long time worked for mattresses . . . but I haven't seen anyone offering 0% down and 0% interest on lots lately.  Same on new construction loans.  There - fixed it.  Let the next lending frenzy begin.  sarc/

Tue, 06/19/2012 - 09:11 | 2539046 Caviar Emptor
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I agree, no hard data necessary. And beyond even sentiment, what's more important is wizardry and predicting the future based on gopher entrails

Tue, 06/19/2012 - 09:52 | 2539195 eurusdog
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Heathens...bones in bowls, bow before the one true printer, lord, god Ben!

Tue, 06/19/2012 - 09:33 | 2539115 RickyBobby
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In Texas there is an enormous skilled labor shortage and we can't build without labor. I own a subcontracting biz. I could triple my work if I could find the labor.

Tue, 06/19/2012 - 09:48 | 2539179 I Got Worms
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What area of skilled labor is most needed? I'm a burned out lawyer trying to talk my wife into letting me chuck my law career and go to welding school in Houston. Shockingly, not having much luck with my argument. :-\

Tue, 06/19/2012 - 14:03 | 2540197 riley martini
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 Welding is hell on the health but pays well after a couple years of training . Tex is having trouble finding skilled labor beceuse the pay is probably about the same as Mexico cost adjusted. I know alot of subs who never seem to get the pay retention effect.

Tue, 06/19/2012 - 10:53 | 2539421 otto skorzeny
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thank the Bernank and $100 a barrel oil-remember Texas in the 80s-a bigger shithole than it is now

Tue, 06/19/2012 - 18:30 | 2541050 marcus popus
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I have a contracting business in the mid east. Can i send you some illegals from here, they're skilled.  Most illegals have retired on US social security and worker comp awards.

Tue, 06/19/2012 - 08:44 | 2538941 InsurgoCasca
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Bullish. Simply bullish.

Tue, 06/19/2012 - 08:45 | 2538946 caimen garou
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now I know how to play this market, bad news buy equities,good news sell equities, what a scam!

Tue, 06/19/2012 - 09:16 | 2539061 scatterbrains
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My theory is you have to, Like Lehman, be bullish on the collapse of the American economy. The faster shit implodes the higher stocks like LULU and AAPL will rise on the fed printing treadmill. Come on Benny you can do it man, just push the button already.




Tue, 06/19/2012 - 08:47 | 2538952 fonzannoon
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Seeing as I base all my investment decisions on whether or not they will dig a hole in the ground at some point I have to say this is absolutely perplexing.

Tue, 06/19/2012 - 08:54 | 2538977 otto skorzeny
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Kohl's dug a hole in the ground here this spring- saw where the economy was headed and just up and quit building-the equipment and mounds of dirt are just sitting there-BULLISH. not to mention 3 more small businesses in strip malls have closed in the last month

Tue, 06/19/2012 - 08:57 | 2538992 TrainWreck1
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Smart planning by Kohl's. Getting ready for that consumer rush that's just itchin to happen, any moment now.

We should be digging holes everywhere.

To be honest, I'm giddier than Cramer right now, especially since Europe is fixed and all better.


Tue, 06/19/2012 - 09:03 | 2539022 HelluvaEngineer
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I used to shop at Kohl's, until their clothing turned paper thin and the price doubled.  20% off?  No thanks.

Tue, 06/19/2012 - 09:20 | 2539068 JohnKozac
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My friend tells me even his Ebay sales are way down....brand new stuff reduced 90% and still don't sell.....

"Bleak" is the New Normal.

Tue, 06/19/2012 - 08:50 | 2538957 cossack55
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I want to invest in holes. Any recommendations on funeral parlors.

Tue, 06/19/2012 - 08:56 | 2538988 Saro
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No, but sugar-daddy dating sites, on the other hand . . .

Tue, 06/19/2012 - 08:59 | 2539001 TrainWreck1
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Odd, all the ads I see are 'sexy septuagenarians'

Tue, 06/19/2012 - 10:13 | 2539279 johnnynaps
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There's a lucrative demographic with very little competition where I live. I should have my Funeral Directors license in about a year....wanna invest?!

Tue, 06/19/2012 - 08:50 | 2538960 otto skorzeny
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The only thing getting built around here are the Del Webb shitboxes for the boomers. Basically 4 plastic wrapped walls/2000 sq ft  for $350K and an $8000 property tax bill(so the local podunk cops can make 80K a year to enforce water sprinkler rules)

Tue, 06/19/2012 - 09:03 | 2539017 Conman
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Sounds like you are around Vegas. Del Webb still building shit out there with the shitload of inventory still unsold?

Tue, 06/19/2012 - 09:05 | 2539027 otto skorzeny
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SW Chi-town burbs- because IL is the first place the "smart" retirees  think of

Tue, 06/19/2012 - 09:04 | 2539028 HelluvaEngineer
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That's a better deal than the Boomers deserve, IMO.

Tue, 06/19/2012 - 10:13 | 2539280 Metalredneck
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My boss dug a hole two years ago to build a new shop.  Still a hole.

Tue, 06/19/2012 - 08:51 | 2538962 Jason T
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construction sector has been losing jobs for 5 months straight.. 




Tue, 06/19/2012 - 08:51 | 2538963 drchris
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I almost jumped on the multi-family bandwagon.  I found a great short sale that would make good money if fully rented, but then I noticed all the "For Rent" signs in the neighborhood.  I don't know where people are living.

Tue, 06/19/2012 - 08:54 | 2538980 LoneStarHog
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Hint! ... Have you noticed that gasoline demand is way down because vehicles (homes) are not being driven ... and ... large appliance boxes are not being recycled ... and ... parents have been cleaning out basements?

Tue, 06/19/2012 - 08:54 | 2538981 otto skorzeny
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in holes

Tue, 06/19/2012 - 09:58 | 2539216 LoneStarHog
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Yup! I have to wonder how many homeless families will be found the next time Obozo gets his Presidential Colonoscopy? Might also finally find Jimmy Hoffa.

Tue, 06/19/2012 - 09:50 | 2539189 roadhazard
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If they aren't at there parents they are living ten to a trailer illegal Mexcan style.


God bless Amerika.

Tue, 06/19/2012 - 10:27 | 2539334 Bicycle Repairman
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Why pay rent that is equal to a mortgage payment?  Mom and dad have plenty of room in the McMansion.  Use the mother-in-law apartment they never should have built.  There's no stigma in living with M&P anymore, since everyone is doing it.  M&P need help paying the absurd property taxes.

Tue, 06/19/2012 - 08:52 | 2538965 LoneStarHog
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So...does this mean that Mr & Mrs Obozo will have to rent a place next January?

Tue, 06/19/2012 - 09:09 | 2539044 GeezerGeek
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Well, they do already have that place in Chicago, made nicer by the land deal they made with their friend Mr. Rezko. I wonder if Michelle can put up with Chicago weather after having visited all those nice places around the world.

Tue, 06/19/2012 - 09:45 | 2539168 LoneStarHog
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Why is it that every time I post about Obozo he gives me a negative? I guess moving from Chicago to WaShitOn destroyed his sense of humor. Well, not completely since he appointed Hillary as Secretary of State.

Tue, 06/19/2012 - 08:53 | 2538971 orangedrinkandchips
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Seriously, Real Estate from what I gather is going bangbusters AGAIN. In Phoenix, you can get your very own patch of dry hot sand for between 100k-300k. That level is moving so fast with multiple bids. Anything above that tends to stay on the market I am told by agents.


I see it here in Chicago too...people thinking it's going back to unsustainable levels.....


HIGHBALL....I think that is the term....Let's say I want to sell you a turd for 10 bucks...you say....that is shit! I know....so I will give it to you for.....wiat for it.....6 bucks!!! 40% off!!!! THAT IS A SORE DICK....YOU CANT BEAT IT!


But, you know all along it's not worht ANYTHING....BUT the psychological numbers make you believe it's a deal!


This is a bump up on the never ending decline....hope floats....


real estate sucks ballls

Tue, 06/19/2012 - 08:56 | 2538989 otto skorzeny
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in Chicago? wait til the property taxes statrt jumping 20% a year to plug the Cook County pension gap

Tue, 06/19/2012 - 09:19 | 2539064 orangedrinkandchips
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Dear Otto......oh...do NOT get me started.

Real Estate taxes are one thing that are outrageous and not even mentioning tolls or parking. Illinois is the worst of the 50. No doubt about it. On all levels.

Thank God Scott Walker won up north....I mean, cmon....we the tax suckers are paying for their "pension"...going to fat, surly and lazy pieces of shit???


Pensions are great, if you got em. And they are great IF YOU FUND YOUR OWN PENSION akin to 401k. But to have these Cook Cunty employees make 100k pension for DOING JACK SHIT.


So, let me get this straight....we the tax suckers(total fucking losers of Illionis) FUND the pensions that go to these "(un)civil servants"...and if they die it goes to their spouse. We fund it 100%.

So far so good...now...we get these overpaid PM who blow the fund to pieces with a bazooka given to them by Satan himself, Ben Berkanke. So, with negative rates (not even real rates!!!) you cant blame them too much as interest is a thing of the past.


So, the PM gets paid. The pensions get paid. We pick up the pieces. SOCIALISM AT ITS BEST!




I hate playing the fool.....but atelast I have company!

Tue, 06/19/2012 - 09:21 | 2539083 Taterboy
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Not a problem. Come Jan. 21 they'll have themselves an experienced community orgasmizer to fix that pension thingamajig.

Tue, 06/19/2012 - 08:59 | 2539002 Temporalist
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Do you work for the 24 hour shopping channel?  I really want a set of 100 knives that can never be sharpened and have no use for anything.  How much?

Tue, 06/19/2012 - 08:55 | 2538984 sockratte
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how to feed a bubble with a leak...

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