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This Is How Greek Neo-Nazis Deal With Confrontation On Live TV
The video below is a great a preview of things to come in Greece. Per Bloomberg, Greek police on Thursday issued an arrest warrant for the spokesman of far-right party Golden Dawn for assaulting two left-wing politicians on live television. Ilias Kasidiaris was shown on a live morning show jumping out of his seat and slapping Communist Party member Liana Kanelli three times after throwing a glass of water at leftist SYRIZA party member Rena Dourou. Golden Dawn, which was elected for the first time to parliament in a May 6 election, is accused of carrying out violent attacks against immigrants. Surely, being captured on live national TV beating up women will do wonders for restoring the party's image as that encouraging pacifism and peaceful resolution of problems.
And from IBT:
The spokesman for Greece's far-right Golden Dawn party has assaulted two woman MPs in a live broadcast from a television studio by slapping one and chucking water at another.
Ilias Kasidiaris, who is already facing accusations that he was an accomplice in the mugging of a student, threw his water at Rena Dourou of Syriza (the Coalition of the Radical Left) and then slapped the Communist Party (KKE) member Liana Kanelli three times.
Police have issued an arrest warrant for him.
"When you're slapped by a beast, it's a slap on the cheek of every citizen," Kanelli said after the attack.
A spokesman for the New Democracy party said: "The people must send them [Golden Dawn] to the dustbin of history."
Kasidiaris reportedly threatened journalists and technicians offscreen also.
Golden Dawn, which obtained 7 percent of the vote and 21 seats at the parliamentary, is considered a neo-Nazi party in Greece.
Leader Nikolaos Michaloliakos has rejected claims of affiliation with Nazism, even though the party's emblem, a squared spiral, and its colours recall closely the swastika. Michaloliakos made a Hitler-style salute when he was elected in 2010 to Athens city council.
A video published on YouTube showed muscular supporters of Golden Dawn urging journalists to rise from their seats as a sign of respect for Michaloliakos when he took the stage. Those who refused were expelled from the room.
Well, if one's country is going down, may as well go down swinging. But perhaps there are worhtier targets than women...
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These are not women. They are zionist banksters’ agents in Greece. They are traitors to their country and its people and must pay for their actions.
It appears that ZeroHedge is a provocateur deliberately exciting bad feeling against people who love their country and their people.
It is OK for ZH when police thugs in America are beating up and killing Americans including women and children. After all, one must pay its bills selling paid commercials.
When does Germany flush this whole country down the toilet?
er dunno, they tried it once before if I remember correctly and it didn't work out too well...
I think he went full retard.
no, he is a full retard with a longer history of public violence
still, they (Golden Dawn) are fascists, not neo-nazis
I junked you. I thought it was kinda refreshing.
are you junking my general stance, my statement, my nitpicking or my awesome avatar? I demand more junking buttons!
and an explanation why it's so difficult for so many to keep fascists and neo-nazis apart
why it's so difficult for so many to keep fascists and neo-nazis apart...
Yes, you're right, the two aren't exactly the same. Franco, for instance, was a fascist, but wasn't a Nazi.
Many people think our countries are socialist, but most Western polities' economies are run along fascist rather than than socialist lines.
Fascists were socialists. We can say that they were better socialists or worse socialists, but at the end of the day, socialists they were:)
Can't we just call them all Statists, then?
They all advocate the political means over the economic means in society. Their common end is in parasitism, tyranny and disaster.
'Only moments ago New York has come under...'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Py_IndUbcxc
Oh, excuse me, where were we? Oh yea! semantics...
Additionally, I did not care for the bit about vilifying "public violence". Every cultured, emotionally comatose Northern European knows violence against women should be kept in the privacy of ones own home.
LOL - you are up to no good, today, eh? How about: "Men, by being superior to women, don't need violence against them" ? I forgot who said that but I think it was one of the early Italian proto-fascists poets and revolutionaries, perhaps Gabriele D'Annunzio. ;-)
Hehe, you guys are getting close to having a debate on keeping your pimp hand strong.
At the end of the day, whether Neo-Nazi, fascist, communist et al, they are all from the same family. Namely "Socialists". Ridding the political system of this heinous bunch is what all men of good will should be striving toward.
Bitchzzzzz....:)
since this is a point of view that is not shared by Nazis, Neo-Nazis, Fascists, Communists and Socialists, I think that even if you were right in principle you can't be right in fact. It's akin to say "for me, you are all coloured" to a Chinese and an African.
Ghorius, you are making progress. At least we are now agreeing on facts. The analogy still needs some work though:)
well, I kind of like facts. I have to agree though that the impromptu analogy is a bit weak.
You have to excuse me, I'm still reeling from the shock of being junked. And nobody here to mop up my bitter tears... ;-(
and to be frank, I'm questioning my English skills, what I wrote was either misunderstood or this IDIOT really has a lot of friends here in ZH.
Come on, Golden Dawn sympathizers, show up and fight! Tell me what Metaxas would say to all this.
Charles Martel would say slap the bitch again.
Oh, and the reason communists, fascists, et al. don't share the sentiment that they are, in fact, all the same, is because they're fighting over who gets to run the State, and monopolize the political means. Tapeworms versus roundworms.
you guys dont get it....supporting fascists will bring nothing good.
Agreed. Condemning them would likewise bring nothing good and if you really want to be honest, somewhat hypocritical.
I don't see where fascists are being supported in the thread. Some comments about slapping politicians in general, some wishes for Communists to be slapped (though the ladies are both Communist), some stupid comments about Northeners and Southerners in regard to how they treat women, and of course the usual sexist/anti-sexiest/feminist/anti-feminist remarks. Up to now, of course.
Culturally speaking Mediterranean views of women differ from continental views. There is a contrast that exists no matter how 'stupid' you think it might be.
does this extend to the views on violence against women? I beg to differ.
Yes it does. The Slavs are even worse.
What differs is: what we do about it.
Look, it's pretty simple. Women getting smacked around stands as a fact of life, Finland or Greece doesn't matter. Ethics, is not at issue, there we agree. How it gets addressed on a societal level is where the problems begin. The 'outrage' of people who see something like is different in the Balkans than Sweden. Read Pierre Bayle who had interesting thoughts on the subject.
I'm not condemning nor defending anybody here. In all honesty, I'm indifferent.
It's called "pluralism". Look it up in the dictionary.
Oh, and while your at it, look up "diversity". :)
There! I junked YOU. Keeping the balance!
"full retard" Who? the neo-Nazi or the ZH troll?
Oh dear.
1995, Russia, 2 presidential candidates. Glass of orange juice.
http://youtu.be/QcHuRvO9ndM?t=4m1s
When does he meet Merkel face to face?
Give him a glass of moonshine and a lit cigarette please...
I see things are getting sorted out.
1)The water throw was a fail, she barely had to dodge it.
2)The slaps were girlish, another fail.
He humiliated himself good enough, was the warrant really necessary?
I always get my girls to practice strait left, left, right just in case....
1) The water throw was a fail, she barely had to dodge it.
Yeah, but be fair, he only had a glassful to work with.
I thought that her reaction to that was by far the most interesting part of the whole clip. There she was, yelling non-stop and making that irritating hand-chopping gesture repeatedly (as if to say, "I'm cutting through the crap here, listen to this because I've got all the answers"), and she gets half a pint of water thrown at her, and she shuts up instantly.
And before I'm told how racist and Nazi it is of me to have noticed something that happened, because that means that I must approve of it -- spare yourself the effort.
In all fairness to the Nazi, you don't know what she was saying to him...
NAZIs always win the street fight. Invading giant communist countries, well, that's another thing.
One instance where quantity won out over quality. But at least it saved half the continent. Could have been worse.
Very subtle sir! I must admit I am baffled by that comment (the saved part)
I think you know exactly what I mean:)
It all sounds like Greek to me...
That was just the preview. Wait for the full movie to be released. Going get ugly.
Do you know where your gold and ammo is?
A Greek gentleman from head to toe ...
Memorandum (aka EU) Violence: Youth unemployment in Greece 53%
+1000
take that, commie bitchez!
When your mother is next because her skin isnt the right color, i'll be laughing and saying "take that , retarded bitchez"
The only skin color in any jeapardy these days is white, which is what our Greek pugilist is trying to explain.
Great political debate, brilliant!
Preview of Obama versus Romney 2012?
Yes... this is part of the divide in this unhappy family known as Europe. Sure, those in the South can be seen publicly smacking, spitting on and cursing women. Those in the North have been in instances where they wanted to do this but would immediately be banished by the mob morality and its crushing mediocrity.
EU motto: United in Diversity
Diversity = FAIL
Moral of the story:
'You steal from me with the help of the government; I beat the crap out of you!'
Isn't this just a 'free market response’ to getting robbed?
I didn't use to believe in violence - then I grew up. The powers that be can spin this all they want; but deep down, they're crapping themselves. Not amount of Sachi & Sachi bullshit is going to work this time, they have played the spin game to long. Now everyman and his dog are going to vote violence because that is the only left that will get the MPs attention.
The status quo parties can argue against violence all they want, but they are robbing their own people everyday and hiding behind the army.
As Nelson Mandela said, when political dialogue no longer works, violence is the only option left to you.
this guy has the wrong enemies. its not the communists or the far left that sold out greece. it was the mainstream parties now discredited....when the mainstream becomes corrupt, the extremes take over....the communists and the fascists hate each other and both see a different enemy. chaos will continue....how much you want to bet they werent talking about goldman sachs...
Who cares - both are "spend other peoples money" operations, though one side is more anti-semitic and at least has to go out to loot other countries instead of pretending to work.
Exactly.
If the mainstream parties has simply been honest, purged their corrupt MPs, admitted they were wrong and sorted the issue out, none of this would have happened.
Instead they have spun this so far and so long, the extremes are voted in, not because the people support them, but to punish the middle parties.
Now that a confrantiona has broken out on air, expect it to get worse. As the police are now marginalised by Golden Dawn as protecting the status quo.
When people get this angry, they will stike out and anything or anyone. Just so long as someone is made to suffer. This is now going to get ugly.
The mainstream parties are socially as left as the leftmost leftists of 100 years ago.
Is that the best you can do? A down arrow?
WE CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!!!
So let me get this straight. You do not disagree with Lebe's arguement, but you criticize him for making it? The 'collective' WE might not be able to handle the truth, but you got to at least make the effort :)
With what of the factual content of the comment are you disagreeing? The values of multiracialism, feminism, cultural relativism, the sexual revolution etc. all have their origins in the radical left and are all accepted as a matter of principle by contemporary 'mainstream' politicians. Things like nationalism, ethnocentrism, male authority, the traditional family, sovereignty of parents over their own children, sexual conservatism etc. were, conversely, taken for granted by 'mainstream' politicians of the 'West' early last century, as they had been essentially throughout European history. Only the most radically red of red radicals would then have suggested that it was a matter of social progress to question the meaning of national identity, to call for massive immigration from the third world, to pass legislation regulating 'hate speech', to have employment equality programs for minorities, to watch have ones teenage daughters running off with descendents of slaves, to homosexual 'couples' to adopt children, to legalise homosexual marriage and so forth.
Sir I don't think anyone disagrees with the factual content of your post/s. Even open Communist spokesbitches for the left on this very thread did not refute what you said, lest they be open to ridicule (IMO)
What you got, were protests of the fact that you said it. (IMO) (which I attempted to elucidate, by my comment)
multiracialism, feminism, cultural relativism, the sexual revolution
All of these are supported by the radically "left" idea that people should be treated EQUALLY within the eyes of the law. In other words: it's not OK for laws to treat people of one ethnicity differently in a free society.
You can worry about left and right if you like, but political progress over the past thousand years has been understood to mean INCREASED individual liberty with regards to treatment by government.
For sure it all sucks if you want to be a slaveowner.
Equality under the law is not what multiracialism, feminism, cultural relativism and the like have delivered. Where's my NAAWP? or my Congressional White Caucus? Would such equivalent racial affinity groups be legal under the USSA's diversity mandate?
As you say: "it's not OK for laws to treat people of one ethnicity differently in a free society." And so the racial and gender quotas mandated by the redistributionist Left are not equal protection. The State's codification of such people as "protected classes", is not equal protection.
The massively invasive State bureaucracy necessary to enforce said "equality" is not liberty. Nor is the reduction of society to its lowest common denominator progress.
The law must be blind. People aren't. And a free citizen should be allowed to associate with, transact with, rent to, employ or avoid anyone they damn well choose to, or he is not free.
Yeah, there's always a problem when you try to codify something into a system of laws. That's why I'm an anarchist.
If you want a White People's Party, I know they exist already. You could start another if you're not happy with the options here.
Personally, I never really felt like being born "white" was one of my great accomplishments that I deserve any credit for, but if that's the best you've got to fall back on, you do what you gotta do.
You're not an anarchist. You're just childish.
But you are not unintelligent. Someday you will discover your own principles and standards. And then you will have more than false analogies, ad hominem smears, and the wishful projections of the dominant ideology of the day to stand on. I wish you luck.
Sincerely,
Beef
You're flailing.
If I didn't understand my own principles and standards, I wouldn't be here arguing with the crypto-fascists every day. I pick my opponents here carefully.
If the day comes that your lot takes control of State-power and tries building a great "White Christian nation," I'll proudly join the other "terrorists" who can tolerate people and beliefs that are different.
When you fight like a girl, guess that's who you pick to fight with
from the back ilias looks like obama,shocking!
Except I think that she probably smacks him all over. May explain the purple lips...
I hope his Mom was watching him on TV. She must be very proud.
What do you tell a woman with two black eyes? Nothing, you already told her twice.
--Ilias
You know the best part about being married to a panda?
Rena looks hot - I would like to splash other things in her face..
2012: Nazi's vs Communists. My grandparents are rolling in their graves.
Might still be better than NWO vs fake space aliens.
Similar scenes are playing out in Ashwaubenon and Green Bay this morning.
I often wondered what was up in Madison. And now I know. The water is tainted with bathsalts. Since the '60:)
I'm NOT defending this guy (can you imagine his finger being near the red button?) but it sure looked to me like Kanelli came out of her seat first and swung first.
She did swing first. But she had the strength of 3 mice and presented a danger somewhere between moth and rain.
But even one mouse can be a threat. Besides, I was always taught that he/she who swings first, looses the debate:)
She got what she asked for, then.
Yea, it's always the Neo-Nazi's fault. :)
But didn't the Womens Lib movemnet teach us that we should not treat women differently.
Hmmmmm.
To be honest, I am shocked, shocked by the bourgeois undercurrents in that last statement.
Hmmm...
She wouldn't have gotten hit if she was in the kitchen... Yea? Is that what you are trying to say?
Correct, he should have just told her to go and make him a lovely cup of tea.. thats what I say to my missus when she comes out swining.. works every time.
What does your pig farm have to do with it? I agree expecting him not to hit the woman erases the advances the NOW crowd has achieved over the years. No, I believe in womens equalized role amongst men, you swing at me you get full fist in the kisser I don't check for tits I just swing until the threat is neutralized, congratulations NOW...
Good point, and further: The women sitting around the table are not innocent and unaware, they are political activists, by choice and free will. They are ready to use the government to impose politically sanctioned violence. They are not innocent bystanders being caught in a fight by accident, they are actively pushing a political agenda.
Anyone who has seen the Taiwan or Korean parliaments in action would laugh at this petty greek TV catfight. And yes, the taiwanese women fight too. They even fight each other. Just search youtube. And in case anyone wonders, Taiwan and Korea provides a far better economic structure and more wealth to its citizens than Greece.
Politically speaking, men (or other women) has little to gain by providing "feminine privileges" to women who seek power over them and equal or superior status to them. Unless women are expected to exhibit certain feminine qualities, such as acknowledging themselves being weaker, there is nothing to gain for others (men or women) to respect such privileges. The politican in this case is doing this calculation and realizes that he has little to lose politically by engaging in a battle. In fact, he may gain support, both from men (and women paradoxically), by demonstrating that he does not take her cr*p (whatever cr*p is from his viewpoint) from anyone. Hey, if he can fight for himself, he can fight for me too.
Basically - if there is a fight, you need to fight (applies to anyone who enters the fight) and may the best fighter win. Whoever enters the fight, needs to fight.
It's not really a safe assumption that the guy would've thrown water at and/or slapped a GUY who was giving him trouble, though.
Riiiight. Watch the other two men in the video: sitting back, staying quiet, de-escalating. They knew what was going down.
It's a fair assumption they didn't escalate because they knew the dude would fight. That, or they're not political enemies, and didn't have a bone to fight over. But all men know what happens when you start a fight.
60 years of Feminized 21st Century society doesn't negate a couple hundred million years of mammalian evolution. Never will.
You can base your understanding of the world on your assumptions if you like. I prefer to see evidence. That's a personal thing.
Ah yes. The end of the modern world is also the end of modern feminism. The notion that a woman is equivalent to a man and can stand next to a man and say her mind. That she will be respected as an equal. That her words will matter. That she will be protected by the law.
Those are soon going to be relics of the oil age, because, when the chaos becomes intense, men will revert to their biological baseline, which is violence, and nobody will have the time or inclination to answer charges that a man slapped a woman for getting out of line.
Massive, unyielding regression, economically, technologically, infrastructurally, culturally, socially . . . that's just part of this great unwind. In a few decades, when oil and natural gas are too expensive for most, paleolithisism will reign in the home.
Oh, and while I eschew violence, and particularly violence against physically frail opponents, like the chubby woman this meat head was attacking, in fairness to the fascist the woman ran her mouth the entire time he was doing his Hilter impression. While I wouldn't have hit her, I certainly would have had the urge.
'While I wouldn't have hit her, I certainly would have had the urge.'
+1 for rare instance of honesty by what I imagine to be a person from one of the several liberal democracies mind-washed by Puritanical restrictions or the generally grim Protestant ethics.
US citizen civilization and its good sides are only the result of affluency due to the age of abundance?
But US citizens are a superior breed of humanity. They will keep the line no matter what.
Shouldn't yoou be violently putting down a riot at Foxconn, or doing something equally vile (and violent) like a good chinese citizen is taught to do?
If he cant handle a political argument he shouldn’t be taking part in one, let alone representing a party with 7% of the votes. And when the oil runs out we start slapping women about? Jesus Christ, you are either taking the piss or incredibly stupid.
I concede that it's a very difficult notion to comprehend, but, once you comprehend it, it's as obvious as the sun in the sky.
The belief that the Western world's treatment of women (and minorities) is somehow the result of societal evolution, whereby time, consideration, and wisdom have conspired to allow us to arrive at the conclusion that women should be treated as equals, and not second class citizens, is inanely irrational. This perspective implies that we've been on a one way road of discovery, and that women (and minorities) will never lose any ground they have gained, because now we somehow "know better." Wrong. Our raging biology has simply been temporarily suppressed.
What has allowed the West to, temporarily, in the last 100 years - and really only in the last 40 or so - treat women better than the previous 10,000 years, is simply, as another poster in this side thread sardonically noted (and was blasted for it by folks who can't recognize sarcasm (a trait that seems to be becoming more common)), ABUNDANCE. As the very temporary spike in energy per capita subsides, so too will the culture and society that developed around it.
Without cheap energy, men and women will revert to their pre-industrial roles, and, likewise, the societal amenities that women have come to expect will begin to deteriorate.
Without cheap energy, women will either have no children and struggle to maintain what they have now, and therefore be Darwinized out of the gene pool, or they will have children, and, just like women all over the world who don't have access to 10 cents per kWh power, and they will spend most of their time raising their children, to the exclusion of politics, employment outside of the home, education, and so on.
Or did you think the couple billion women all around the world who are currently treated like useful, talking dogs are treated that way simply because their part of the world simply doesn't "know better" yet? Silly goose.
Biology drives human behavior. There's a guy in China/India/Indonesia/Honduras/Nigeria right now beating his wife. He will not be subject to any local criminal prosecution. What separates that man from "Western" men is energy availability, and nothing else.
'Biology drives human behavior.'
Only a partial truth, ideology drives human behavior to a much larger extent.
You've missed the entire concept. Completely. Ideology only drives human behavior in times of abundance/excess. Like now, in the Western world.
In times of competition and scarcity, which is almost always, biology is our cruel overlord.
To wit - the way the woman in the hut/home is treated in rural Iraq, rural China, and rural Nigeria is about the same, regardless of "ideology."
But, sir, you spoke it like most believe it - that they can conquer biology with words. Only, sadly, when the listeners are fat and happy.
I see. As it so happens I actually work in the very field you are referring to and you are speaking nonsense specifically known as sociobiology. Biological determinism. Darwinian evolution is not a theory of social progress, you are clueless. Feel free to read:
http://www.amazon.com/The-Mismeasure-Man-Stephen-Gould/dp/B0043NGJHI/ref...
Also, on another thing you mention: scarcity. Again, we are in a period of abundance and mass production. You've confused wants and needs on a basic level.
And you think genes that determine the structure and activities of the biological organism just switch off because you have a theory of "social progress". I'm going to tell my neighbor's cats they should adhere to a progressive, tolerant ideology and stop killing small animals and fucking all night. LOL
Since you work in the very field, feel free to read up on behavioral genetics. Your mind will thank you.
Oh you mean those mad intellectual cats, i know them well, when they aren’t fucking and fighting they are practising mathematics and reading Marx? But you are right, they just cant help themselves, no matter how civilized they pretend to be. We should all take note, especially those nincompoops with they’re “theories of social progress”.
You need not of conceded anything old chap, i know only too well where you were coming from, it's just that the notion you want me to comprehend is a construct of your limited imagination. Your ideological pervasive peak-oil spiel has taken over your withering mind like a dose of the crabs, throw in a piss-poor understanding of Darwinism and hey-presto, out pops a fucking maniac with a crystal ball... perhaps you should stop drinking the petrol and we could get a few more years before we cant help ourselves "taking our belts off" to women.
As for the biological determinism and moral relativism that you just butchered in true neophyte style… you should take a course in the humanities mate, stop trying to work out the future path of the human soul using peak oil theory, the cognitive quantum leaps are hysterical. Perhaps I should turn on my megaphone here…STEP-AWAY-FROM-THE-DETERMINISM. What is the saying again? “A madman is not someone who has lost the power of reason…a madman is someone who has lost everything except the power of reason”.
Self-control, morality, civilization, empathy, measured reason, communication, kindness, humanity, education, activism, sociability and social intelligence, community, culture, the evolution of the species where the good get the upper hand and the festering maggot sociopaths are consistently rooted out of each generation… if you think all that was built on oil abundance you’re a fucking fruitcake.
Gender and sexual equality, the ever declining trends in bullying, animal cruelty, racism, husband/wife battery, rape and sexual violence including child molestation etc etc…what you are saying is that “biologically” we will ignore all these when the gas runs out. Maybe you will, but I wont.
Itch Wrote: what you are saying is that “biologically” we will ignore all these when the gas runs out. Maybe you will, but I wont.
I love the professor long winded types who refer to "courses" that one should take to understand how things are and will be. Like economics courses, I suppose.
You won't, eh? You'll still be the decent, modern man that you are? Right?
Until some hungry man knocks your teeth down your throat as you pontificate on whatever social theory of behavior it is to which you subscribe. Then you'll mumble in your own blood. Because hunger does not respond to reason, and your words are just those - words, and likely words from a man who has never been without food or shelter.
Biology can be resisted, but it always wins.
Explain the declines in bullying, animal cruelty, racism, husband/wife battery, incest, rape and sexual violence including child molestation. Come back to me when you have an answer other than your tormented philistine doomsday fantasies in which im laying on the ground with my teeth knocked out mumbling "in my blood" that FrankIvy was right. You're gonna have yourself a good ole time those fantasies, right frank?
In this instance the glass in the water was appropriate. He just ran out of water...he had 'lapse in muscular coordination'...
Too true.
Our 'civilisation' and its laws and regulations are
purely a function of affordability.
The reversion is coming amd female equality will be one of
casualties.
As to the slap,she was EQUALLY treated and deserved what she got.
Female equality is not the innocent victim you think it purports itself to be. Google Rockefeller foundation, women's studies.
Wonderful, the ancient art of debate:
thesis - antithesis - glasso'waterindaface - faceslapping
He looks a bit like a moroccan
Nah, Looks more like a turk to me.
Someone should just dump a ton of bath salts into Wall Street tap water and watch the meltdown happen... would be nice.
+1, baby.
Failure is so difficult to watch.
Which reminds me, ancient Athenian democracy employed Scythian slaves to whip unruly speakers.
This unfortunate episode reflects the nervousness and tension with living in Greece the tremendous economic crisis. The impoverishment of the society is happening very quickly and the politicians have started to blame each other if any generated. Worst of all this, is that still do not see the light at the end of the tunnel.
the scene is interesting.
if it was not completely scripted, I would be very surprised.
What fucking planet are you on? Scripted? Please, get out more and get some exercise, talk to people, other than the people in your head.
...and lay off the bong, your mom is starting to suspect something.
yes indeed 5 people from 5 different political parties got tegether with a TV station to set him up, hewas actually kidnapped and a body double sent ourt to commit the act while the FX guys photoshopped his face onto the double.......
No, then lets hear how they did it........asshat.
Are they really neo-nazis? From my experince in Sweden, you only have to use logic in a debate to be labeled extreme right, nazi, etc.
That's because logic is just a social construct of patriarchal, chauvinist, racist Europe and its dead white males, don't you know?
Your perfect logic is ........almost criminal in modern day Euroland.
I never knew, i must remeber that one for the next time im asked to do some math. Or was that an ironic way of saying no one listens to your opinions?
You obviously didn't get the memo. Anyone who doesn't support the status quo is a right nazi. Especially those who support debt free money, those are the extreme nazis. And those who disagree to global ursury schemes and question central banking are the neo nazis. And those who do not want to continue endless wars are a fascist.
I don't support violence, unless absolutely necessary and I'm not a nazi. But, let’s face it; we ought to downgrade the "feminine" perspective in the world. Look at it like this, "they" gave women more of a chance and...Greece is what you get. Don't believe me? Let’s take another country. Before the meltdown, Spain boasted about its high percentage of women in the legislature. Apparently, they're doing great.
Why on earth is it now necessary to begin any statement with "I'm not a nazi but..."
Because he is a nazi?
I don't support violence, unless absolutely necessary and I'm not a nazi. But, let’s face it; we ought to downgrade the "feminine" perspective in the world. Look at it like this, "they" gave women more of a chance and...Greece is what you get. Don't believe me? Let’s take another country. Before the meltdown, Spain boasted about its high percentage of women in the legislature. Apparently, they're doing great.
Arent US citizen northern european countries boasting about the same?
Might be US citizenism.
Only by comparison to shitty track record of Chinese comradeism.
Chinese have a lot of female members in the governing party?
No - female members are aborted before they are born.
Hahahahah...great fun there in China eh?
Chinese citizenism.
Long butt lube companies in China, preordained result of femals destruction policy. Ohh yeah also war lots of war..
"China! - Making the World's Future Supply of Homosexual Men!" (tm)
Works out, anyway.
When all those chinese bachelors come knocking on our doorstep and demanding that we make good on our debts, we can just give them the std-ridden gold-diggers that's the quintessential american woman these days. They can then destroy china with their incessant materialism and gold digging.
The logical conclusion of such "US citizenism" might be to restrict such "citizenism" to females, yes ? / sarc
But then we wouldn't get to listen to your whining, bitchlet.
People who can't tell correlation from causation are "a hoot".
Try again. Mrs. Thatcher wasn't a liberal and look at how she fixed the UK in the 80ies.
This seems like BS more staging of events. There is a significant parastate in Greece that controls things that was set up by the West during the Cold War. I wouldnt take things like this seriously.
Probably not scripted, but the placement in the news before the election should be enough. And if we were following a script here, the next big video should be a female cop beating up Golden Dawn...
Dude, get some meds for your paranoia.
Dude, read before reaching for the pseudo-psych smear.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Gladio#Greece
Reminds me of a news account from about twenty years ago. A guy was in court to face charges for beating his wife. His case was going badly so he leapt out of his chair right there in the courtroom and attacked his wife!
Sounds like she picked a real #Winner.
"You must never hit your mother with a shovel...
It will leave a bad impression on her mind."
Greek Politics Go Full Stooge.
Kanelli is a member of the Greek Communist Party or KKE and is one of the most aggressive talkers around, using slang and sometimes offensive language. She even smokes when she is live on air something which is not allowed on Greek TV but nobody gives a damn.
As i said she is very abusive in her tone and voice as well and in her remarks. She had been asking for it for a long time now.
I am totally against violence and i agree with most here that Ilias is out of line in this case even though he had to endure her remarks and the lady's from SYRIZA.
Both called him names and accused him of being a NAZI and all the usual stuff (also a traitor be calling him GermanoTsolias, a German sect which collaborated wiht the NAZIS in WWII in Greece).Also, the SYRIZA woman even mentioned a court hearing who Ilias had on Tuesday and was postponed. So, it was also a personal attack to him and that's how he considered it and attacked.
We have a saying, those who harbor a snake egg will be eaten by it when it hatches...
So what's wrong with calling him a NAZI? That's what he is...
If he is a NAZI (I'm not saying he isn't - as well as a coward), a national socialist, then why is he a 'far right' winger...
NAZI-ism is a far left thing that has long been mischaracterized as the right of the spectrum.
More accurately, if you think of political though on a circle rather than a straight line, NAZI-ism is where far left and far right meet.
Well, not so far left.
Golden Dawn are mostly junta lovers and espescially Kasidiaris.
They are not NAZIS or even FASCISTS so much, as lovers of the millitary regime during the 7year junta in Greece (1967-1974). They believe that it is the solution to Greece's problems. So, that makes them enemies of the Democratic State.
Many have harboured them, like the millitary and the police and have used them to disband peacefull demonstrations of left wingers and anarchists. They are very "useful" sometimes and they can be very handy to have...
That is why i mentioned the saying with the snake...