How US Banks Are Lying About Their European Exposure; Or How Bilateral Netting Ends With A Bang, Not A Whimper

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Tue, 11/01/2011 - 13:53 | 1833152 eureka
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Next to fall - US/DC/CIA/WALL STREET mafia-ponzi...

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 13:53 | 1833154 Motorhead
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Indeed.  Not if, but when.

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 13:58 | 1833193 LawsofPhysics
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I agree, but do not underestimate an intelligent, desperate, thug with a modern arsenal at his disposal.  Got physical, know your neighbors?  You better.

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 14:02 | 1833223 Don Birnam
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"...banks will always honor their own derivative exposure."

I.e., the Fed: Banker, Honorer, and Printer of last resort.

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 14:05 | 1833227 redpill
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I'll sell you a million dollar life insurance policy for $5 a month.  What a bargain!


Looks great on paper but here's the thing: I don't actually have a million dollars.  So you better not die :)


Tue, 11/01/2011 - 14:07 | 1833259 Pladizow
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And this is a surprise to who?!?!

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 14:18 | 1833317 Smithovsky
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Bloomberg, welcome to the fringe.  Would you like some coffee?  

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 15:28 | 1833716 JW n FL
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Bloomberg Thugs!


Celebrate the Fraud!

Celebrate the Criminality!!

Just like New York's Finest DO!


NYPD Fake Drug Charges for Arrest Quotas

Eight officers from the New York Police Department are facing trial for allegedly fabricating drug charges to make their arrest quotas


FBI arrest NYPD Officers for gun running and smuggling cigarettes into New York.

Who Do the White Shirt Police Report to at Occupy Wall Street Protests?

Financial Giants Put New York City Cops On Their Payroll

If you’re a Wall Street behemoth, there are endless opportunities to privatize profits and socialize losses beyond collecting trillions of dollars in bailouts from taxpayers.  One of the ingenious methods that has remained below the public’s radar was started by the Rudy Giuliani administration in New York City in 1998.  It’s called the Paid Detail Unit and it allows the New York Stock Exchange and Wall Street corporations, including those repeatedly charged with crimes, to order up a flank of New York’s finest with the ease of dialing the deli for a pastrami on rye.

The corporations pay an average of $37 an hour (no medical, no pension benefit, no overtime pay) for a member of the NYPD, with gun, handcuffs and the ability to arrest.  The officer is indemnified by the taxpayer, not the corporation.

New York City gets a 10 percent administrative fee on top of the $37 per hour paid to the police.  The City’s 2011 budget called for $1,184,000 in Paid Detail fees, meaning private corporations were paying  wages of $11.8 million to police participating in the Paid Detail Unit.  The program has more than doubled in revenue to the city since 2002.

The taxpayer has paid for the training of the rent-a-cop, his uniform and gun, and will pick up the legal tab for lawsuits stemming from the police personnel following illegal instructions from its corporate master.  Lawsuits have already sprung up from the program.

 See how breaking the Law effects business men.



Tue, 11/01/2011 - 16:02 | 1833935 Oh regional Indian
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Good stuff JW.


Tue, 11/01/2011 - 20:19 | 1835031 Dental Floss Tycoon
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Lying by only a factor of ten.  That's about as truthful as a fractional reserve banker can be.  

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 15:51 | 1833835 CClarity
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Also, recalling AIG, the way most banks protect against this contingency, is to buy CDS on the counterparty itself, thereby layering netting concerns on netting concerns, and pushing even more net exposure onto the strongest credit in the link:

Ala, Germany holding up the rest of Eurozone.  

And our solution to debt saturation is with more debt. 

Truly, the magical thinking of trying to outlast this rumbling approaching storm is not working.

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 14:18 | 1833320 redpill
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The widow!

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 21:25 | 1835187 NewThor
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Euro Markets down 5-6% tidal waves outflows beginning?

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 14:50 | 1833474 ZerOhead
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Bernanke apparently.

My guess is that as CEO of Bankster Inc. , rather than see his boys take an obviously forthcoming big dirt nap on this, he is more likely than ever to backstop the European sovereign/bankster crisis early while trying his level best to keep his fingerprints off it.

And fortunately for GS Morgan and friends... that one time audit that showed up $16.1 trillion reasons NOT to trust the Fed is now over.

$2T or so of very quietly arranged currency 'swaps' to the Chinese Central Bank to lend on to Europe should be enough to kick this Europroblem down the road for a couple of more years without creating so much as a ripple in the markets.

Stupid idea huh?

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 21:26 | 1835189 NewThor
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I wouldn't be surprised to see Bernanke have the balls to flat out announce QE3 tomorrow.

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 19:51 | 1834938 vocational tainee
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Oh, why is it ,that I can only spend as much ,as is in my posession?..

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 22:53 | 1835442 jekyll island
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Because you don't have a printer like Big Ben

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 23:54 | 1835595 gmj
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Why don't you sign up for 50 new credit cards, max them out, and then buy CDSes on yourself? 

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 14:08 | 1833268 Hard1
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Nothing to worry, US banks main counterparty are banks from France, a AAA rated CDO squared country.

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 14:52 | 1833540 knukles
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Well, I'm hedged, what with all the CDS's on my books (carried at cost) from Bear Stearns, Lehman and MF Global.  What could go wrong?

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 14:55 | 1833555 knukles
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Whaddya mean that because I bought my CDS's on Lehman from Lehman they're no good anymore?  ISDA didn't say anything about that.  Quit picking on me.  What the Bear STearns one from Bear and MF Globals from themselves too?  What is this, a fraud?

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 21:13 | 1835158 slewie the pi-rat
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bilateral banksterism, BiCheZ!

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 14:17 | 1833318 Deadpool
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or you better get 17,000 paying customers.

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 14:56 | 1833561 TruthHunter
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I'll sell you a million dollar life insurance policy for $5 a month.  What a bargain!

 Looks great on paper but here's the thing: I don't actually have a million dollars.  So you better not die :)


If this weren't a kleptocracy, wouldn't the Insurance Regulators step in and say CDS are our turf this crap isn't legal?

So,  give back $5, pay a fine and maybe do some jail time.

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 15:03 | 1833593 El Viejo
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Didn't congress have to have a special meeting to explain to those geniuses just how CDS work?

"When the people lead the leaders will follow." Some real genius said.

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 15:24 | 1833696 Kayman
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No reserve Insurance policies.  What's not to like ?  Premiums are today's income.  Losses are "go fuck yourself".

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 15:52 | 1833856 Ned Zeppelin
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Tell that joke to Brooksley Born.

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 15:19 | 1833658 peekcrackers
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You can insure your bunk insurance  from me for 1 million for $2.50   and I'll sell it to some guy in Iceland as a money fundfor $20.00 a month and take out Put Ops against it.

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 15:49 | 1833823 mccoyspace
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But that isn't fraud because your a "sophisticated investor" who would be aware of risks.
And how could it be fraud if everybody does it?


Tue, 11/01/2011 - 18:52 | 1834710 peekcrackers
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Hey let me add in a some of these Prime un-real estate ops I mean real estate markets ,, they are booming  in Detroit , ya appraised value  $68.00 ops I mean 680k.. great deal.. dont worry we will do CDS and sell it off to Bank in Canada they will throw it in to a pention hedge... all good!

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 16:06 | 1833964 Oh regional Indian
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This thread above, with your line of thinking peek, is exactly how it DOES work. An eighth grader could understand it.

Insurance, one of THE biggest scams pulled on general humanity. Scum sucker business. Death, Fear business.

Most banks have strong insurance ties. Lying is in their DNA. Money for nothing. 

It all makes sense to me anyway. See Buffet....Banks and Insurance companies. 

And recently, what has the world of finance been dominated by? 

Writing policies on Money Bets.




Toroidal Vortices and Stillness

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 18:44 | 1834681 peekcrackers
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Thanks  Oh regional

I am glad I stoped at grade 3 .

Yup a smiple little scam of  fancy words like "Insurance" to sell SHIT with nothing to back it up but a huge mess of suits finger pointig at each other.

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 21:04 | 1835143 RafterManFMJ
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And if he dies, how's he to know you don't have the cash? You, sir, are brilliant! Although I fear you may in fact be a bankster by the way you think.

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 14:05 | 1833239 Ahmeexnal
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No need to worry.  Just as Japan raised the limits on "dangerous levels of radiation exposure" so will the banks proclaim that their exposure to toxic assets will be within reasonable levels.

That's one of the fist lessons on Kick the can 101.

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 14:40 | 1833445 DosZap
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Just as Japan raised the limits on "dangerous levels of radiation exposure"

Yeah,now their Importing RADIOACTIVE cars...............

Going to a Japanese dealer?, carry a Geiger counter.

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 18:58 | 1834733 GeezerGeek
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Shop at night. Don't buy a car that glows in the dark.

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 21:06 | 1835147 RafterManFMJ
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a car that glows in the dark

No Sir! That's not a defect, that's a feature! Normally we charge extra for that eerie green glow, but I can see you are a man of distinciton, and I really need to sell two more cars this week...tell you what I'm gonna go...

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 21:47 | 1835238 UP Forester
UP Forester's picture, when you go down a dirt road, you don't have to worry about the tubes breaking on your neon under-lights!

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 22:49 | 1835431 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Cop: What you got in the trunk?

J. Frank Parnell: Ohhhh ... you don't want to look in there


Tue, 11/01/2011 - 14:06 | 1833255 legal eagle
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Come on now!  Banks misleading and misrepresenting?  Say it aint so Charlie.

A local real estate lawyer just sent me some mortgage assignments Bank of America submitted in a foreclosure case - from a make believe pretend trust that doesnt exist to one that does.  They will try anything.

Stop playing their game!

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 17:56 | 1834523 Mitzibitzi
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They'll dig out the biological and chemical weapons before they deign to fight you on the streets. There are too many of you and you're too well armed. Too many of you are veterans who know how to use those arms not just effectively but tactically and strategically. A straight up fight would degenerate into a decades long guerrilla campaign and TPTB know VERY well by now how well those turn out.

Going NBCR on the domestic population will engender a lot of outrage from the rest of the world, though, so it'll be essential that we get properly fucked by the same means at the same time, sadly. Welcome to the apocalypse.

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 19:07 | 1834757 fnord88
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Why would NBCR cause outrage? It was the terrorists. Cause they hate our freedoms. Although Chavez has lots of oil. So maybe it will be the commies. They hate our freedoms too.

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 21:08 | 1835153 RafterManFMJ
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Going NBCR on the domestic population will engender a lot of outrage from the rest of the world, though, so it'll be essential that we get properly fucked by the same means at the same time, sadly. Welcome to the apocalypse.


You could not be more mistaken; the rest of the world will laugh themselves into convulsions if the US imbecile mass gets gassed.  

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 18:16 | 1834593 disabledvet
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Who could that be I wonder?

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 13:59 | 1833200 gojam
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Maestrom pulling everything and everyone down !


PS, Maestrom is a cool word isn't it ?

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 14:05 | 1833236 Popo
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LOL.   It's   "M A E L S T R O M".

You're an idiot.

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 14:09 | 1833254 gojam
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Typo. dickhead.

I don't mind being corrected. but you go to far to assume i'm an idiot and by assuming you show yourself up.

I'm at the end of a long day.

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 14:13 | 1833282 Popo
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LOL at your excuse too.

The same "typo" TWICE in a two-sentence post?  



Tue, 11/01/2011 - 14:14 | 1833297 legal eagle
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Liked it better before you edited your post.

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