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How The U.S. Will Become a 3rd World Country (Part 2)
Submitted by Ron Hera of Hera Research
How the U.S. Will Become a 3rd World Country (Part 2) (Part 1 found here)
The United States is quickly coming to resemble a post industrial neo-3rd-world country. Unemployment, lack of economic opportunity, falling real wages and household incomes, growing poverty and increasing concentration of wealth are major trends in the U.S. today. Behind these growing problems are monetary inflation created by the Federal Reserve’s monetary policies, federal government deficit spending and the dominant influence of “too big to fail” banks and large corporations in Washington D.C., which has altered the direction of law in the United States. To make matters worse, the U.S. government faces a historic fiscal crisis.
High unemployment, lack of economic opportunity, low wages, widespread poverty, extreme concentration of wealth, unsustainable government debt, control of the government by international banks and multinational corporations, weak rule of law and counterproductive policies are defining characteristics of 3rd world countries. Other factors include poor public health, nutrition and education, as well as lack of infrastructure—factors that deteriorate rapidly in a failing economy.
Apparently ineffective regulation and relatively little law enforcement action by the federal government in the wake of the sub-prime mortgage meltdown resulted in widespread speculation that special interests had taken priority over the rule of law. Critics have also charged that the federal government’s policies threaten to eliminate what remains of the American middle class.
Accelerating Concentration of Wealth
In response to the economic downturn that began in 2007 and the start of the financial crisis in 2008, the U.S. federal government and the Federal Reserve resorted to a radically inflationary policy intended to save banks and to shepherd the U.S. economy through a recession. Instead, radically inflationary policies greatly increased the concentration of wealth.
Under ordinary circumstances, monetary inflation has the effect of redistributing wealth in favor of those who receive newly created money first. The value of money is reduced as a function of the number of currency units in the economy but recipients of newly created money can spend it before it loses value. In a declining economy, however, the wealth redistribution effects of inflation are magnified.
When the Federal Reserve or the federal government supports banks and financial markets through liquidity injections, bailouts, asset purchases, quantitative easing, etc., the lion’s share of financial support, i.e., newly created money, is captured by the largest financial institutions and by the wealthiest 1% of Americans. Money printing skews the distribution of money over the economy while the value of money, i.e., the purchasing power of wages and savings, is reduced. The overall effect is a wealth transfer from proverbial Main Street to literal Wall Street.
Looming Fiscal Crisis
U.S. government debt and deficit spending have markedly accelerated over the past decade. For example, The U.S. Department of Homeland Security (DHS) was created and the U.S. military grew to 3 million active duty and reserve personnel, not including contractors. Since 2001, the U.S. spent approximately $1 trillion on military expansion while the total cost of the U.S. wars in Afghanistan and Iraq has been estimated to exceed $3.7 trillion.
Although the U.S. federal government remains in denial, the Congressional debt ceiling debate and subsequent U.S. credit rating downgrade on August 5, 2011 were only the tip of the iceberg. In fact, the United States faces a historic fiscal crisis.
As of 2012, the majority of new federal government debt will stem from interest on existing debt. Treasury bond issues totaled $2.55 trillion in 2010, roughly 2x the federal budget deficit of $1.3 trillion. Artificially low U.S. Treasury bond yields, created by the Federal Reserve’s quantitative easing (QE1 and QE2) programs and by its current “Operation Twist,” only slow the rate at which the federal debt balloons.
The U.S. federal government’s fast growing debt is $14.94 trillion, approximately 100% of GDP. Additionally, future liabilities total $66.6 trillion based on generally accepted accounting principles (GAAP accounting) and using official data from the Medicare and Social Security annual reports and from the audited financial report of the federal government.
1. Medicare: $24.8 trillion
2. Social Security: $21.4 trillion
3. Federal debt: $10.2 trillion* (not including intra-governmental obligations)
4. State, local government obligations: $5.2 trillion
5. Military retirement/disability benefits: $3.6 trillion
6. Federal employee retirement benefits: $2 trillion
The eventual insolvency of the U.S. federal government cannot be averted through any combination of taxes, budget cuts or realistic GDP growth. Inflationary policies, i.e., increasing deficit spending by the federal government and debt monetization by the Federal Reserve, would devalue the U.S. dollar and potentially trigger a hyperinflationary collapse of the currency. To stave off the inevitable, interim measures might include tax increases, exchange controls, nationalization of pension funds or other measures similar to those taken in 3rd world countries.
Dominant Corporate Influence
In a 2009 radio interview on Elmhurst, Illinois’ WJJG 1530 AM, Senator Dick Durbin (D-Ill.) explained that “…the banks—hard to believe in a time when we’re facing a banking crisis that many of the banks created—are still the most powerful lobby on Capitol Hill. And they frankly own the place.” Senator Durbin was unequivocal in saying that the federal government of the United States is controlled by banks. Simon Johnson, former chief economist of the International Monetary Fund (IMF), had reached the same conclusion one month earlier in his widely read article The Quiet Coup. Johnson explained that the finance industry had effectively captured the U.S. government, a state of affairs typical of 3rd world countries.
Corporate influence over the political process, as well as over the tax and regulatory policies of the United States, is at an all time high. The federal government is the largest single customer in the U.S. economy and, through taxation or regulation, the government can grant or deny market access to private companies and can either prevent or mandate the consumption of their products and services. As a result, virtually every large corporation in the United States seeks to win the government’s business and to steer government tax policies and regulations in their favor. Naturally, politicians who accede to the wishes of particular corporations are given campaign funds to ensure their reelection. In the past decade, the amount of money spent on lobbying has more than doubled and there are currently 24 lobbyists for every 1 member of Congress.
The interdependence of elected officials and the largest U.S. corporations reached a new high with the 2008 bank bailouts. The influence of private corporations and de facto industrial cartels (comprising the largest corporations in each major industry) over tax and regulatory policies creates significant economic distortions that ultimately compromise the sustainability and the stability of the economy. Ideally, the government would be an impartial referee, rather than an active business partner that overwhelmingly favors large businesses over small businesses, despite the fact that small businesses account for the vast majority of American jobs.
Impact on the Rule of Law
Corruption, cronyism and weak rule of law are typical of 3rd world countries. The United States exhibits a clear corporate influence over elections and legislation and, arguably, relatively little law enforcement action where large, legally well-equipped corporations are concerned. Reports of so-called crony capitalism have appeared in the U.S. news media, but the term “corruption” has been avoided, along with discussion of fundamental reforms.
A cursory examination of legal developments over roughly the past decade evidences a pattern in which U.S. federal law systematically favors the largest financial institutions, as well as a paradigm in which financial institutions heavily influence both the regulations that putatively govern their activities and the laws that apply to consumers of their products and services. The financial crisis that began in 2008 and the subsequent response of the federal government appear to follow logically from prior legislative events:
- 1999 Gramm–Leach–Bliley Act (GLB). The Act repealed key provisions of the Banking Act of 1933, commonly known as the Glass–Steagall Act. In the aftermath of the Great Depression, the Glass–Steagall Act prevented depository institutions from engaging in high risk financial speculation.
- 2000 The Commodity Futures Modernization Act (CFMA). The Act deregulated over-the-counter (OTC) derivatives, such as credit default swaps, referred to by Warren Buffett as “financial weapons of mass destruction.” OTC derivatives were at the heart of the financial crisis that began in 2008 and are the root cause of the “too big to fail” doctrine. The Act preempted state gaming laws that had prevented banks from speculating in OTC derivatives with no connection to underlying assets.
- 2001 USA PATRIOT Act. The financial provisions of the Act allow banks to collect additional financial information about account holders, for example, linking business accounts to the personal financial records of business owners, thus weakening both financial privacy and the corporate veil. The Act enhances the ability of creditors to collect and allows federal authorities to monitor financial transactions and to obtain financial records without a subpoena.
- 2005 Bankruptcy Abuse Prevention and Consumer Protection Act (BAPCPA). The Act, which was sponsored by banks and credit card companies, effectively eliminated the concept of a “fresh start” by allowing banks and credit card companies to engage in collections activities, in effect, forever. As a result, small business owners who end in bankruptcy are less likely to ever start another business. The Act places banks in front of bankruptcy courts, creates liabilities for bankruptcy attorneys and contains many widely criticized, anti-consumer provisions.
- 2008 Emergency Economic Stabilization Act. The Act, commonly referred to as a “bank bailout,” authorized the United States Secretary of the Treasury to spend $700 billion to purchase distressed assets, especially mortgage-backed securities (MBS). Instead, the funds were given to foreign and domestic banks to offset their risky MBS, OTC derivatives and other losses. The bank bailout set a precedent of socializing losses but keeping gains private. The Act effectively bound the fate of the U.S. Treasury to that of the largest U.S. financial institutions.
- 2010 Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission. The Supreme Court of the United States held that corporate funding of independent political broadcasts in candidate elections cannot be limited under the First Amendment, overruling prior case law and guaranteeing the ability of corporations to influence elections without meaningful restrictions. The Court’s decision gave carte blanche to corporations to influence elections, legitimized the interdependence of elected officials and large corporations and created a precedent under which the rights of corporations supersede those of citizens.
- 2010 The Dodd–Frank Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act. The Act failed to restore critical provisions of the Glass–Steagall Act, significantly regulate OTC derivatives, break up “too big to fail” banks, prevent another financial crisis and prevent further bailouts. The Act created a Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, but did not repeal any provision of BAPCPA or restore the financial privacy of U.S. citizens removed by the USA PATRIOT Act. The Act failed to provide adequate funding to the government’s watchdogs, the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC), the Commodity Futures Trading Commission (CFTC) and the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), potentially hobbling enforcement. The Act has also been criticized for the burden it places on smaller competitors in the financial sector, which could ultimately result in an increased concentration of financial power in “too big to fail” banks.
Critics have alleged that, underlying the sub-prime mortgage meltdown that triggered the financial crisis in 2008 was rampant fraud. Fraud has been alleged at virtually every level from the assessment of property values and credit risk; to the loans themselves and to their securitization as MBS assets; to the ratings of MBS assets as AAA; to hedging or betting against MBS assets in the OTC derivatives market (perhaps including financial firms allegedly betting against MBS assets that they themselves created and sold to clients as AAA assets). After the crisis, a seeming pattern of fraud continued apparently unabated in the robo-signing foreclosure scandal where documents submitted to courts were falsified. Despite an avalanche of alleged crimes under existing federal law, no firm or individual of any significance in the financial crisis has yet been prosecuted.
President Barack Obama said in October 2011 that the mortgage finance practices leading to the economic meltdown were “immoral, inappropriate and reckless … but not necessarily illegal.” Since fraud is, in fact, illegal, critics claim that the U.S. federal government has simply failed to enforce the law. Adding fuel to the fire, the Solyndra loan scandal could be construed to suggest corruption at high levels and the MF Global debacle could be construed as indicative of weak regulation and law enforcement and even of questionable market integrity.
In theory, selective enforcement of the law risks the creation of two sets of laws: one for big banks and corporations, and for their executives, i.e., those with connections in Washington D.C. or on Wall Street, and one for everyone else. Among other things, failure to enforce the law could create an environment in which crime pays, but, for ordinary citizens, hard work, prudent financial decision making, saving and investing for the long term do not.
More than any other aspect of America’s progression towards 3rd world status, the federal government’s low level of law enforcement action where “too big to fail” banks are concerned is perhaps the most insidious because it raises questions of legitimacy and of the social contract. A financial and legal system of moral hazard implies that victims face double jeopardy while they are deprived of legal recourse, i.e., those allegedly defrauded might face inflation and tax burdens stemming from preferential treatment of favored corporations or from further bailouts.
Destructive Tax Policies
In the face of rising government debt, the rapidly shrinking American middle class is the primary target of the U.S. federal government’s tax policies. The eventual extinction of the American middle class would be a key milestone along the road to 3rd world status. Current U.S. tax policies favor the largest corporations and this is unlikely to change in the foreseeable future. Although tax increases exacerbate economic downturns, several tax options have been or are being discussed. However, none of them are likely to be put in place.
• Increasing taxes on corporate profits would result in job losses in the short term and would affect dividends and share prices in the stock market. Lower dividends or share prices would affect pension funds, including government pension funds.
• Increasing taxes on capital gains would impact the non-tax-exempt investments of the now retiring “baby boomer” generation and would reduce capital formation thus reducing investment in new businesses or business expansion and hampering job growth.
• Increasing payroll taxes would cause companies to downsize resulting in job losses and would have a chilling effect on hiring.
• A Value Added Tax (VAT) is impractical in the United States because countless special taxes already exist at all levels of the supply chain. To prevent unpredictable, disruptive consequences, implementing a VAT would require years of study and comprehensive tax reform.
• A national sales tax is undesirable because it would overlap and interfere with already existing state sales taxes, which are highly inconsistent across states.
• Carbon taxes remain possible but they would encumber businesses and result in job losses or reduce hiring.
Chief among the remaining possibilities is the income tax but, according to the Tax Policy center at the Urban Institute, Brookings Institution, 46% of American households will pay no federal income tax in 2011. The reasons include income tax exemptions for subsistence level income, dependents and nontaxable tax expenditures for senior citizens and low-income working families with children.
Assuming that big banks, multinational corporations and the wealthiest 1% of Americans remain off limits in terms of tax policy, the range of income taxed is likely to widen from the current tax on households earning more than $250,000 per year to progressively lower income levels. In fact, the government’s intended revenue source is precisely what remains of the once much larger middle class: professionals, small business owners and dual income families in urban areas, etc. These are the households that have managed to stay ahead of inflation, declining real wages and falling household incomes.
Among other things, U.S. tax policies will erode capital formation within the remnants of the middle class, which is the engine of small business creation and the source of most American jobs. The eventual result will be a three-tier socioeconomic structure consisting of a super rich wealthy class, a much poorer working class and a massive, politically and financially disenfranchised underclass, similar to that of a 3rd world country.
Via Dolorosa
The United States increasingly resembles a 3rd world country in terms of unemployment, lack of economic opportunity, falling wages, growing poverty and concentration of wealth, government debt, corporate influence over government and weakening rule of law. Federal Reserve monetary policies and federal government economic, regulatory and tax policies seem to favor the largest banks and corporations over the interests of small businesses or of the general population. The potential elimination of the middle class could reshape the socioeconomic strata of American society in the image of a 3rd world country. It seems only a matter of time before the devolution of the United States becomes more visible. As the U.S. economy continues to decline, public health, nutrition and education, as well as the country’s infrastructure, will visibly deteriorate. There is little evidence of political will or leadership for fundamental reforms. All other things being equal, the U.S. will become a post industrial neo-3rd-world country by 2032.
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Let me give that strawman a kick for ya, there you go knocked it over, wasn't that easy..
http://centurean2.wordpress.com/2009/09/02/muslim-rape-epidemic-puts-sweden-at-top-of-euro-rape-statistics-peace-in-europe-surrender/
I've known some black ladies who dyed their hair orange in order to stand out and make it more likely they could buy a cadillac.. Feel free to kick this over at your leisure..
Well done C for raising this important issue.
These fucks are sleepwalking to oblivion.
your lone green from me.
“the more 3rd worlders we import, the more 3rd worldlike we become. It's really as simple as that.” - trav777
The more 1st world arrogance we have, the more self-destructive we become. For those of a more religious bent, “Pride Goeth Before Destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall.”
If only white men ruled the world, everything would be OK?! What idiocy! The “golden age” of imperialism was no golden age for the slaves, the indigenous natives, nor the colonized. Nor is the 3rd world in any golden age today thanks to global corporatism, global finance, and the global militarism of the US and NATO.
The 3rd world is populated by impoverished masses ruled by oligarchies, dictators, and drug lords. Well we may ask just who is financing and militarily backing those rulers from Haiti to Egypt? Just who is backing apartheid and fomenting ethnic clashes? Why do some deny it is the tried and tested practice of divide and conquer?
What a upside-down view of history is there when looking through the racist lens. The real moneymakers for US economy until the Civil War were slavery and the military conquest and despoliation of a virgin continent. Through WW2, the US was an apartheid nation, marked by much abused and exploited labor, both at home and abroad, particularly in Latin America.
The brief post-war “happy times” were soon ended by thwarted attempts to maintain colonialism in Korea, in Vietnam, in Latin America., and by the Civil Rights protests at home.
There is no turning back the clock, no gated residence, no gated country that will forever enable a privileged elite to immisserate the many, ruin the planet, and wreak death upon all its inhabitants.
WTF?
DUDE, you're a FOOL.
Let's take the most obvious case, South Africa or Rhodesia. Is life BETTER for blacks in the ABSENCE of whitey? Sure! They don't have the oppression of electric power, refrigeration, consumer electronics, or modern medicine. They have the freedom of all-out economic collapse, starvation, and famine!
How AWESOMELY they live without the oppression of the colonists!
Your entire viewpoint is warped beyond belief. It's as if white men never invented ANYTHING...they just used slavery to come up with the lightbulb and airplane and internal combustion engine.
Retards like you, bellycrawling liberal pieces of mudshark filth, are the lowest form of life.
You're a fucking fool and a tool. You want to blame ordinary people for the state this country is in, but not the 99.99% white men (mostly Christians) who have led us to this point? Who do you think has been in control of the world for the last 300 years? Moron.
"Who do you think has been in control of the world for the last 300 years?"
The joos.
Fuck you trav. Greed is a human nature. Who do the fuck are you? another wallstreet failure venting anger; Now, direct your trading failure toward becoming a wallstreet fucker; At least, there is equitable redistribution of wealth in wallstreet if you have enough head and BULLS.
"And we have a desert nomad war tribe controlling the media and finance"
Trav in da houuuuuuse!
Spot on, spot on. You pretty much said it all.
Hope & Change with the muslim.
Puff.
Freddie, laddie, since you changed your piccie to the one of you in high school you've become a bit one-dimensional with your posts.
You need to broaden your horizons and focus your thought processes...
Puff.
Pass.
ditto
Ditto ditto, give it a rest Freddie. Every thread has one of your "the Muslim" comments. We heard you the first 100 times.
Fuck you imbecile
How it will? Has the author driven across this great land of ours? This country already looks post-apocolyptic, but in our current reality the zombies tend toward obesity. We are so fucked and 4th world already!
All other things being equal, the U.S. will become a post industrial neo-3rd-world country by 2032.
2032?? Try 2012
State of Michigan wants to take over Detroit...why..?? I don't know
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-12-02/michigan-plans-review-of-detroit-s-finances.html
The state is taking over several Michigain municipalities that are insolvent.
2032? Such optimisim. The US will be Tobacco Road long before that. Canada anyone?
america has always been a banana republic and now is becoming like sudan.
http://expose2.wordpress.com
Xenophobic, pro-Eugeneics, racists, anti-semites, scapegoaters, etc... ready, set, go!
Want to see who is to blame for this? Look in the mirror, you dumb motherfuckers.
oh nooooooooooz
careful with all those awful big worded epithets, you might hurt my feelings sniff sniff
Feelings? I dare you little stupid imbecility of man race. What is 1 the the power 1. Fucking hiralious. if you could only answer that. Now, how dare imbeciles such as your bread are trading markets. Sure, they do in order to lose their freaking ass.
I think the US will return to it's natural condition , the way it was before the whole superpower thing.In the past it was perfectly normal that the vast majority of the population was living in poverty with no social benefits , no easy access to credit , no medicaid or medicare , no reserve currency , no cheap stuff from abroad.This has always been like this , since the birth of the country.Why exactly is a return to the same condition considered to be 3rd world?
Why exactly is a return to the same condition considered to be 3rd world?
We thought we were too big to fail.
huh? We were the richest nation on the planet before any of this shit
Yeah; it's pretty fucking sad.
Trav7777, your comments are racist and idiotic. If we had less idiots like you in America, we might actually get properly elected leadership in this country instead of people mindlessly voting what they see on TV.
Which is why cars from Nigeria, Egypt or Mexico win at Le Mans.
No, but facebook was created by a Jew....so I win.
but myspace wasn't
This one's for you, buddy. My personal favorite is "Out of Whole World Came In Third".
If you laugh at these, you're a racist:
http://www.byroncrawford.com/2011/11/the-third-world-success-kid-meme.html
What, you mean all those countries with long histories of large, intrusive, corrupt governments?
No wai!
on what basis do you conclude that my statements are racist and idiotic?
because the MSM told you so? Wait, no, the TV tells the mindless to believe the opposite of what I am saying. Do you grasp the contradiction inherent in your hypothesis here yet?
Yup, you continually apologize for the government. Anything wrong with society? "Niggers did it." Surely it had nothing to do with massive overspending by our superior white overlords.
You are such a fucking retard.
warum spracht du auf seine Unwissenheit? er nicht kümmert.
the white man is not the problem, it is human greed and complaceny to theft.
Einheit.
I don't countenance racist speech like that, Adolf.
The government is what it is because of female and minority voting. Nevermind the overdiversity IN the government itself.
It's funny how you fucking retards can't seem to figure out how socialism WORKS in places like Portland, OR or Scandinavia but fails so miserably in Detroit. Hint: it's not the socialism that's the problem.
Give it a fucking rest will you - Homo Sapien fucked and bred with neanderthals the purity of the pasty/pale skin you so revere was a product of that union because humanity below the buckle be they be black white brown or whatever all feel the same - if intelligence is race specific (or according to your neat theory intelligence begins with white then somehow homepathicly descends and dilutes according to the swarthiness of an individual's colour) then what happened in the dark ages? Did Europeans breed on mass with invisible Africans? How would you explain the upsurge in cultural thought in the Middle East and China in the 9th and 10th century AD? Was there a mass influx of Europeans when Arabs were inventing Algebra and the Chinese were inventing gunpowder? Glug, glug, there goes your conceited theory - and the nature of globalisation is such that goods, capital and people flow across the globe and the more the frequency and the scale of this increases over the years the more likely people are going to have partners of another race because no one is going to be racist if they can't get laid and no-one, as Darwin would probably agree, is going to discriminate against the product of that union (i.e. their mixed race kids/gene pool) if its their own...the fact that you're bitter about the whole race issue says more about what goes on in your head then what the world is actually like.
Neandarthals weren't primitives. You watch too many geico commercials. Neandarthal DNA is in whites but not blacks. This is a recently-disclosed scientific fact.
The dark ages? Huh? WTF does 1000 years ago have to do with now? All because Rome fell and everyone moved to Constantinople?
The rest of it, go fuck yourself. I'm not bitter at all over race; I like fucking black chicks as much as the next guy. "No one is going to be racist if they can't get laid." WTF does this shit mean?
You are so effing stupid as to be barely worth responding to...do you even know where the fuck the term "racist" comes from and who it applies to? NOBODY ELSE besides dipshit liberal bellycrawling whites like you GIVES A SHIT about it, nor ever calls someone from their race a racist. EVER.
So, in reality what is going to happen is eventually all of YOU will have future convict mulatto bastard grandkids and your mudsharking bloodlines will be extinguished. Good riddance.
Neandarthal DNA is in whites but not blacks. This is a recently-disclosed scientific fact.
And also found in people of Asian descent - my point Einstein is that when it comes to breeding human beings don't give a damn who they hump be it people of other ethnic group or another species of humans the racism is cultural baggage that's all"The dark ages? Huh? WTF does 1000 years ago have to do with now?"
But genius didn't you say in so many words that the connection between race and intelligence is so immutable no amount verbosity can change this fact? Well Sherlock it ain't...and as any discerning reader on this thread will recall from your earlier post your entire assertion - I will not warrant to call it an argument since it lacks factual substance - that America and Europe in particular has been in decline with the arrival and subsequent racial mingling of europeans with non-europeans, your grasp of history is not even third-rate.
"The rest of it, go fuck yourself."
Translation: Can't countered what you've stated, so I'll respond the only way I know as potty-mouthed ignoramus with stunted vocabulary who expects people to recoil from his trashy tripe because race realism' - or as I like to call it 'race surrealism' - is so edgy, grow up your over-grown man child.
"No one is going to be racist if they can't get laid." WTF does this shit mean?
Read the paragraph in its context you or is following a sequence of paragraphs beyond your ken?
You are so effing stupid as to be barely worth responding to...
Yet you do...must be love.
do you even know where the fuck the term "racist" comes from and who it applies to?
What I and fellow decent minded - who had enough of a good upbringing - posters objected is not just your casual xenophobia, your misanthropic disregard of courteous language, your inability to sustain an argument, your inability to consider a viewpoint contrary to the one you may hold - familiar with the popper's falsifiability test? No? Google and educate yourself - no what really peeves us of is you're monomaniac with a chip on both his shoulders...arguing with you is like arguing with a Turing machine - you and other posters should go look that up also - that's stuck in a loop.
NOBODY ELSE besides dipshit liberal bellycrawling whites like you GIVES A SHIT about it, nor ever calls someone from their race a racist. EVER.
A) Am not white, am Gujarati, B) Am a political atheist. C) Bellycrawling? A keyboard warrior like you would brick it if you saw me with my broad shoulders and my big fists on a dark day.
So, in reality what is going to happen is eventually all of YOU will have future convict mulatto bastard grandkids and your mudsharking bloodlines will be extinguished. Good riddance.
Wow you really have issues...you thought of that when you were playing CONCENTRATION CAMP COMMANDANTE with your online buddies?
so you're a dothead bent out of shape that whitey conquered you? Gotcha.
Nah my problem is with you...
I believe I was quite clear when I posted
What I and fellow decent minded - who had enough of a good upbringing - posters objected is not just your casual xenophobia, your misanthropic disregard of courteous language, your inability to sustain an argument, your inability to consider a viewpoint contrary to the one you may hold - familiar with the popper's falsifiability test? No? Google and educate yourself - no what really peeves us of is you're monomaniac with a chip on both his shoulders...arguing with you is like arguing with a Turing machine - you and other posters should go look that up also - that's stuck in a loop.
And judging from the other posts directed at you its a view shared by many on this board
well, I apologize; your original post seemed so obnoxiously-written that I didn't think it warranted any kind of response.
On further review, I see I was originally correct.
Go falsify the theory then...you idiots act as if every theory you do not like is somehow structurally flawed; it's not.
"Hurr durr, I izn't rayciss"
*Is the definition of racist*
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism
But nice job outing yourself as a fucking socialist. I fucking knew it, with your constant defense of the state, whether by claiming the niggers killed the test scores, or by claiming that peak oil caused our current crisis, and that the socialist policies of our great white leaders had nothing to do with it.
Get the fuck out of here and go to the Obama forums where you belong. You can actually claim the moral high ground there, because at least you wear your vile racism and collectivism on your sleeve.
no tmosley, a racist is someone who notes racial differences, something most mind controlled pc leftist fuckwits are unable to.
any self respecting truth seeker would agree
I see, so truth seekers seek to categorize people, and judge them as individuals based on the qualities of the population of those in the category?
If I had done that, the best employee I ever had (black guy) would have never been hired.
Judge people as individuals, dumbshit.
jesus fuckin christ you are stupid.
So, you AGREE WITH EVERYTHING we say now?
Because I wasn't discussing INDIVIDUALS, you fucking CRETIN. It was a discussion of population dynamics.
I treat every individual as an individual. A general case is not a specific case. People like YOU are too fucking stupid to be able to have these two statements in your head at once.
The general case makes a predictive statement about the specific, no more and no less. I know you binary outcome retards can't seem to grasp anything beyond a dog's understanding of "good" and the opposite "bad."
WHO THE FUCK TOLD YOU IT WAS OK for you to use RACIST EPITHETS, you fucking PIECE of shit?
it's not, you motherfucking nazi scumbag
Trav, I am listening to Herman Cain on c-span. He is discussing the debt issue with two guest from the New Hampshire union leader editorial meeting. He has no tele-prompter and is answering solid business questions on spot imo. As a white business man myself, after listening to this gentleman on the fed, budget issue's etc, He is much sharper than most buisness people I know, white, black, brown or green.
Using a paint brush is not the answer to our problem's imo.
the problem here seriously is that YOU cannot figure out when I say that blacks have lower average IQ than whites that I AM NOT SAYING that "all blacks have lower IQ than all whites."
Your bringing up of ONE exception and attempting to invalidate the rule is a classic fallacy. Don't do it again.
At the start of the 20th century the USA was in the 5-10 range in terms of wealth per capita. Argentina was richer. USA people had considerably less government interference.
Source?
Most powerful but never the richest.
it's not! the imf & basel want to make the american sheeple believe this 'black proganda.
http://www.johntrumanwolfe.com/blog/
ref: blog [top bar] 4/28/11 'the imf's war on america'
ps. great reads
jmo
"fx_dilemma"...
Too much has changed around the globe, let alone this country, to go back.
Heck, Man, most of the people back then were miserable! Just try living like people did back then.
NOT THAT IT WON'T HAPPEN...We're gonna really have to toughen up!...So much for the comfortable, "AMERICAN DREAM"!
hmmm, REALITY!
so let's kill a few more million,... or go for a billion - what ya say. just for a good nights sleep,... we can even use the skeletons as logs in our comfy fireplace, singing,... 'god bless amerika'
Amish people don't seem to complain much about living an 1850's lifestyle.
Hmmmm ... they must have known what was coming and were getting prepared. Very suspicious. Hey ... the Amish are the NWO!! (They certainly show what the US will be like under the NWO).
So, you think people that amass power and influence will surrender it all without resolve? How quaint.
There is no "natural" condition. There are only the dynamics of the market and the limits set by the controls put in place by others. Today, we have the means to confront out oppressors through passive resistance, education, communication and determination.
If we set our own parameters for behavior and government, eschewing the fascism of America, we can rewrite the social contract in terms that trade government influence and intervention (thus corporate control) for liberty and laissez faire markets.
The fascists need a compliant population. However, we do not need them.
Civilzation is about production of goods and services. We can do that with our own money, our own labor and the rules of the free market. The social contract is based on the affirmation of the population. Instead of giving unto Caesar, tell him to exit stage right...
The British were the world's superpower and had the world's reserve currency until the 1940's. Over 70 years later everybody drinks at pubs and plays golf. Not a bad result after losing the reserve currency. The women aren't that hot but when you drink alot you don't notice as much and everything's good. Good beer, good golf.....so-so women. I can live with it.
stateside
Bad teeth though.
You beat me to it. Yeah, dental care and orthodonics must not be covered by the national health service.
But hey, they still have the monarchy! /sarc/
First up , The British Gave up their Empire, they did not lose it, a primary condition of the Marshall plan, (The rebuild of Europe , post WW2), was, hey you can have the LOAN, Britskies, but you have to give up your Empire, tis a condition of the BAILOUT.
When British soldiers were trying to save France from the Nazis, the USA was standing around Jerko wanking on each others gay inbread bottoms, chit chatting about Neutrality and not give a fuckery, the Brits were fighting the Nazxis in 1939 but the USA did not show up until !942 ?
WW1 Began in 1914 and went on until 1918, the USA showed up in 1917,
My point is, the USA has no reason to gloat, the USA was a day late a ton o' times,
I mean no disrespect to the hundreds of thosands of US servicemen who gave EVERYTHING, but it is not a glamourous truth.
It all looks a bit ugly since 1913'ish.
The USA gets involved when it looks like the Germans or Russians might use the UK as an airbase ?
When the Battle of Britain was over and Hitler realized he could not take the UK, he turned on Russia, gave up and went east.
The USA was not even in the war yet, but apparently US banks were financing both sides, ? IBM, FORD.
I will not even go to Japan this evening, with Ford engines in their vessels,
Most Americans never get too much further than the village boundaries,
in fact or in mind, but know this, England is about the same size as Rhode Island, Wales is about the same size as San Bernadino ,CA.
Scotland twice as large and Ireland is run by Leprechauns.
As far as British dental care, it ranks amongst the best in the world, if not thee best, you might want to Google, British surgical and Dental innovations of the 20th century,
Fuck you in your financial Times, pick up a fucking history book now and then, so you can actually base your opinions on facts rather than assumptions sold to you in high (AS A KITE) high school ?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/local/lancashire/hi/people_and_places/history/newsid_8189000/8189386.stm
That was admirably spunky until you came up with that BBC link at the end.
The BBC are the biggest bunch of motherfucking, corrupt ,multi-culti rammed down your throat, dont report on any news story with a foreign born criminal... bunch of cocks ever.
Those pakistani rape gangs in the north of england - the BBC ignored the whole thing.
i'd disband it and hang the board for treason.
lol...I was rockin along with him till this...
"Scotland twice as large and Ireland is run by Leprechauns."
Never reach under an Irishmans kilt & fondle his lucky charms ;-)
desert nomad war tribe must own them too
So, according to you, the British 'gave up' their Empire... because they would rather have had cheap money from Uncle Sam than carry on exploiting their 3rd world conquests? They 'gave up' their Empire because they had no choice. Even if it hadn't been a condition of the Marshall plan - and I'd be interested to see some references proving this - Britain was spent. It was broke. Britain's military adventurings destroyed its Empire... and the US is to be criticised because it was not quite so eager to go to war?
As for the US showing up a day late a "ton o' times", has it occurred to you the US had no business getting involved in WWI? That BRITAIN had no fucking business getting involved in WWI, pledging the lives of millions of its young men to defend a bunch of corrupt European monarchies? That it was the US involvement in WWI that gave the Allies the ability to push the ruinous Versailles 'Treaty' down Germany's throat, which was what set the conditions that gave rise to Hitler?
As for Ford engines in Japanese vessels... how many British-made weapons help prop up vicious despots the world over today?
Enough of the nationalist militarism. If the US hadn't got involved in WWI the world would probably be a lot better place today.
America's involvement in WW1 was prima facie evidence of her continued existence as a British colony.
I think it's more likely to be more evidence that the MIC had already had an established grip on the body politic even back then.
The interests of the MICs of the US and the Brits are usually confluent.
I'm glad you didn't go into Japan, because I really didn't want to brain myself by bashing my head against the keyboard.
Since you have such a hard-on for England, you should be proud of the fact that most Japanese warships were powered by British propulsion systems - namely Brown-Curtis and Parsons turbines. Don't know of any IJN ship powered by Ford, or what that even had to do with your screed.
Speaking of village boundaries, you may want to check in to your nearest geography class: San Bernadino is 153 square km; Wales is more than 8,000. Not even going to bother checking the Rhode Island/England claim.
Put your 101 IQ to better use next time.
write in answer: the loyalist are____ ____.
The pound sterling got fucked in the ass in the late 19th century when they went off the silver standard.
They would have lost WWII, and maybe WWI, without the help of the US. The Brits lost status before you say, and they never were a lone super power. They lost to America/France in 1783, remember?
ummm...they beat the French later and kept Canada, with the Canadians actually burning down the White House in 1805. The Americans did not swing the balance in the Great War of 1914-1918, but were important and gratefully accepted volunteers. I agree that wiping out half an entire generation of young men in the Great War, saw the demise of the British Empire and that they were not ther lone superpower at the time. Pretty much like America won't be, or even isn't now. The USA accounts for almost zero of wealth that is not ecumbered by debt. On this basis, given that all countries are more or less broke, the only currency that counts for superpower status is nuclear warheads. I think that having enough to destroy the world 50 times over is pretty pointless and even destroying half would bring the other half to starvation, so I am not sure nucelar missiles are worth anything either.
And they have a welfare parasite state that would put our Octopus Mom to shame.
And they have a police/surveillance state that would put our NYPD and Operation Fast and Furious to shame.
And they have a official policy of forced multiculturalism that would put our affirmative action quota system to shame.
No thank you.
desert nomad war tribe got them too...Rothschild Bank of England
they are huge in the UK. couldn't get that drunk. remember the still own the colonies like Canada and the usa that's why they aren't totally done yet. wait till we go and they have nothing. except the opium, forgot about that one.
there are some very attractive "british" women, but most of them are celts.. green eyes, red hair; there you go. or blue and yellow, whateverthefuck.
green and yellow would make it.
or blue and red.
How the U.S. Is an Obanana Republic.
Fixed it for you.
Obama is a failure. Eric Holder has been a failure and still maintains his job. Geithner has failed at his job and has been retained. Bernanke has been a failure and still retains his job. Will Obama retain his job. If Obama does get re-elected the future of this country is very very dim.
Yeah, well don't get out your shades if Romney, Perry or any other Repub (except RP of course) gets elected either.
May be they are really succeding.
Doom and gloom.
The bankruptcy of the Us Gov. will not kill the american spirit. Rebirth will occur. The US has a culture of freedom and believes in a Republic. Things have gotten out of hand in the past 50 years but the great default will result in a burden being lifted.
Look at Iceland.
Turn off all media and other distractions you might have a chance of delivering that message.
The f**ktard morons who watch TV enpower and enable their overlords. ZH is filled with morons who watch Tv including CNBC.
Difference in the US is that there are forces that will continue to try to hold us down.
Iceland isn't burdened with diversity.
I agree; but I beleive (or is it a mad hope?) that the great default will result in an exodus so that we can rebuild from wreckage.
No, they're a homogenous cluster of retarded white people.
which is why their standard of living is 1000x higher than africa with the homogenous cluster of supersmart cool black people.
Honestly Trav what is up with the whole racist slant? What the fuck does race have to do with our country turning into a fucking shit hole dictatorship? Race and immigration have nothing to do with our constantly reduced standard of living, corruption within the government, or central banks going MAD on each other.
WTF is the point to keep blaming race? You make no fucking sense.
You are so fucking wrong it's ridiculous.
The first thing that race has to do with America's demise is niggers: our constant coddling of them and getting virtually nothing in return.
The second thing that race has to do with it is that America somehow think it's a good idea to bring practically the whole world to these shores. Now, a few Chinese or Mexicans, and it wouldn't be a problem. But it's practically a tide of biblical proportions at this point.
And even if Chinese and Arabs and Mexicans and Indians show that they can maintain America, will they actually work together, like the European immigrants of the past did? Somehow I don't think it will be that easy.
Diversity just doesn't work. People prefer people like themselves, in all things: race, language, interests, age, education, class, etc. You can't just make people with widely varying backgrounds magically work together and create a prosperous society.
Witness the never ending propaganda on TV and elsewhere that always has token people of different races smiling happily and enjoying each other's company.
Have any of you ever actually seen this in real life? I can probably count on one hand the number of times I have observed it.
quid debemus cogitare?
kids dont care about race. go look at any nursery school and see if the kids distinguish between races. pointing fingers at other races is just like the 2 parties pointing fingers at each other for failed governmental policy and reluctance to look at the real problems in the society. I married outside my race. we just speak different languages
i think the fundamental problem in american society is that everyone wants to be a real estate agent or lawyer or paper pushing clerk making six figures after partying for 4 years studying liberal arts and psychology. The college enrollment statistics in the US is horrifying. More people take up psychology as a major than all of engineering (civil+ mech + electrical + etc ) AND computer science COMBINED. its just fucking ridiculous.
I dont think the government is not spending a lot of money on the the african americans, and no i dont think the african american societies in the US contribute much, but I dont think its because of the race but sort of like the divide and rule policy of the british empire the government employs to keep the whites and blacks segregated.
fuck off trav
YES, they DO.
Children self-segregate and african kids prefer white dolls and proportional white faces. Even in nursery school you can ALREADY see disparities in rates of skills development between the races.
JFC, MORON, did you not see the COVER of Time Magazine, where they asked "is your baby RAYCISS" (of course it was a white baby)??
EVERYTHING you think you know is FALSE.
You got this nursery school thing from where, actual rigorous observation of nursery schools or did you hear something like it said by some talking head on the MSM. Because the actual studying of nursery schools shows the OPPOSITE of what you assert, and that's why Time just HAD to run that as a lead story!
Yes, yes, the MSM TOTALLY tells the truth on race, unlike everything else they talk about which is 100% propaganda. Got it. Makes total sense.
Blacks and whites SELF segregate. In fact, every race tries to segregate itself from blacks. ALL DO.
I've got young kids. And I haven't seen any sign of this 'self-segregation' you proclaim.
Looking at various races throughout history, we can see advancements and declines relative to others. And this includes Whitey. There was a time when the (brown) Egyptians were way ahead of white Europeans. The Indus civilisation - they were brown, too. How about the Saracens, vs your beloved whitefolk in Europe?
People migrate to improve their lives. The problem in the US is that, because of the perverse incentives of socialism (free education, free healthcare), we attract those who have most to benefit from coming here - ie, the poor of neighboring countries. The fact that they have brown skin is irrelevant.
I might also add that it was LBJ's minimum wage that destroyed the burgeoning Black middle classes. That and the 'War on Drugs' and welfare have given us our beautiful modern ghetto culture... in which an increasing number of white people are taking part, because the same incentives are working the same magic on them, pigmentation notwithstanding.
What the fuck does ANCIENT HISTORY have to do with NOW?
Populations can diverge in as little as 500 years. You've got young kids and you are NOT a sociologist?
Go examine the work of SOCIOLOGISTS instead of pretending like you are doing rigorous research, JFC. You're gonna tell me something about the movement of the stars now because you looked up once or twice?
Ah, so it's only modern whitey that is genetically superior to the brownies? So any instance of brownies being demonstrably culturally superior is irrelevant if it's more than, say, 500 years ago?
What I'd like to see from you, Trav, is some kind of evidence that this 500-year divergence is genetic, rather than cultural-political-economic-environmental.
As for SOCIOLOGISTS (any sociologist who accidentally leaves the caps lock on, I'm guessing), most of them would run a mile from your whitey-ubermensh frothings.
I don't care about 500 years ago and the populations you mentioned are caucasian in origin AT ANY RATE.
Yes, Ahabs and persians are fkin caucasian. Over time, they have been diluted with increasing amounts of subsaharan african, aka negroid.
This is how the populations diverged so much.
The ancient Egyptians were caucasian, were they? I guess that explains the pale skins, and thin noses and lips when they represented themselves in their artwork.
I think it is much more complicated than you are saying Trav.
The black kids play with white dolls because their role models on TV are usually white. Hollywood doesn't put out many black stars, and when they do, they are cross dressing comedians.
They like the blacks to dance, whislte, and stay quite.
And black musicians that won't comprimise with the Illuminatti? They kill them. The LAPD shot Tupac and Biggie. Jay Z on the other hand throws up the diamond and is "protected".
The brainwashing by the MSM you speak of is true, but it much more complex than you think.
Oh, and their are plenty of dumb fuck ass witted rednecks out there (in Amerika and Europe) that have shit for brains, so why you never talk about trailer park trash I am not sure.
are you a frickin idiot?
DON'T ARGUE WITH ME IF YOU DO NOT KNOW THE NATURE OF THE STUDIES, OK?
Because you are talking out of your ass with this "role model shit." It's NOT APPLICABLE to this study, dood, and if you bothered to DO THE RESEARCH, you would know why I am being so abrasive.
Hollywood glorifies blacks...they don't put out black stars because people don't WANT TO SEE THEM. People vote with their wallets and blackness is not saleable. It's not beautiful, it's not naturally cool.
Even blacks want whites...there is an evolutionary biological reason for this.
I do talk about trailer trash...whites have lower average IQs than east asians. However, these rednecks are still smarter than all but exceptional blacks - FACT.
Here we go with illuminati shit...STFU man. Jay Z and Tupac...wtf. where do you come up with this paranoid nonsense?
"Exceptional blacks" put a hole in your theories. Blacks are either genetically imperfect, or, they are not. So these exceptions, they are there, which means they are just as capable as anyone else, and you are wrong.
you don't appear to be able to discriminate between the specific and the general. I must only assume that is because you are insufficiently intelligent to do so.
Bringing up "perfection" is a classic sign of strawman fallacy.
Chum, unless you are asserting that Blacks' intelligence doesn't follow the same bell-shaped curve as the rest of us, then, even if their average intelligence is (say) 10 points lower, the top quintile of Blacks is still going to be more intelligent than the lower three quintiles of whites.
Hardly 'exceptional'...
Your hatred of people with African ancestry is fucking up your ability to think. It's a shame, because you're clearly a pretty smart guy (in other respects). You may find it worth your while to explore why you hate them so much... this ethnocentric monomania of yours is holding you back.
look, dood, the distribution curves are out there for you to go look at.
black (US) mean is at 85, white (US) mean is 100. The SD is 15. I will leave it to you to figure out what that means. I don't think you understand what a gaussian distribution looks like.
And, then HERE WE GO AGAIN with this "hatred" shit...what the fuck is wrong with you people? You are like fucking DOGS while bells are ringing.
No sooner do I yank your chain and force you near your mental 3rd rail than you start calling me a HATER and a NAZI...you really should introspect on how your conditioning to the statement of FACTS is causing you to do this.
OK, it's a 1 SD difference, is it? So the upper quintile of Blacks still has an IQ higher than 50% of whites, rather than the 60% I stated. That's still not what I'd call an 'exceptional' number.
Q: When have I called you a Nazi? A: Never.
But are you a 'hater', yes, I think it's pretty clear you hate people with brown skin.... to the point that you think socialism would work in white-only societies, because us whiteys is so superior, we're immune to the perverse and destructive economic incentives and disincentives that socialism establishes.
Ask yourself this, IQ-worshipper - given that asians have such high average IQs, why did collectivism fail in their societies, ethnically untainted by the evil brownskins? Because socialism CAN'T work, ethnic purity notwithstanding.
Tell me another bed-time story, Bonzo.
There isn't a single identifiable culture from foreign shores that hasn't paid their dues in the "X Need not Apply" and "We Don't Serve X" barrel in the US...Irish, Polish, Chinese, Italians, etc ad nauseam...all demonized and exploited on arrival, all bringing something to the table, and all working together every day, if you'd open your beady little eyes and take a gander. Your opinions of the world are filtered through your surroundings which sadly bear little resemblance to the other 99.99999% of the globe, I suspect.
"our constant coddling of them and getting virtually nothing in return."
This is wrong. Welfare children make willing soldiers and willing voters for more government.
Hmm, you point out that coddling of blacks is the problem, then claim it is the fact that the people wha are coming are somehow fundamentally different is the problem (rahter than the act of coddling itseld).
But you keep blaming immigrants like an ignorant buffoon. It makes you easier to control. Ignore the men behind the curtain.
The people coming here today are no more different from each other than the immigrants of yesteryear, and after a few generations, they all integrated perfectly. But integration requires that no-one recieve special treatment, niether free shit nor oppression. Unfortunately, we haven't done that. We jumpted straight from oppression to free shit.
Note that earlier cessation of oppression had marvelous effects, where blacks segregated themselves (to avoid repression), and created their own high powered finance system, the "Negro Wall Street". Of course, the oppressive elements of society wound up grinding that venture into dust, but the point stands.
The cycle is the same everywhere. If people are oppressed, they will be poor. IF they are coddled, they will lack self motivation. If you just jump from one to the other, they will be both. It happened with the Russians, it happened with the Chinese, it happened with the American Indians, etc, etc, etc.
If you want to see what happens when oppressed people are freed, look at Ireland. Long regarded as an island of filth, as bad or worse than Southern Europe (there was a time when Irish committed most crimes in America), after the British were forced out, and the Irish Republic was founded, they rapidly rose to the level of most of the rest of Europe. The same has happened in many of the former soviet republics. The same has happened in Chile.
It really is that "easy". Of course, it is tremendously difficult to get oppressive regimes to stop their oppression, and one of the natural reaction to the end of one of those regimes is socialism, where the new leaders want to "help" the population as much as they can (think Hugo Chavez). Their coddling and redistribution doesn't help. It takes at least a generation for the effects of such oppression/coddling to disappear (witness Russia, only now coming into its own).
Don't just take things at face value, or make the mistake of thinking that because something is, that it can never change, or that it has always been a certain way. This is a form of normalcy bias.
Honestly? Do you really have such a hard time grasping that stirring up racial hostility and mediating the resultant mayhem is a great way for manipulators to cloak their aspirations for hegemony with fake moral superiority?
Talkin' bout warlike desert nomads and their khazarian allies here.
Trav speaks brutally, but he is often correct.
I gotta ask, man...have you LOOKED around the world at what type of governments each place has?
I mean, mfer, seriously. Race has almost everything to do with culture and society because the races have different average attributes.
Yup, absolutely nothing to do with the intrusiveness of their government. It's all dictated by the amount of melanin in their skin.
did you actually just assert that blacks and whites differ ONLY in the amount of melanin?
So if I showed you an albino from africa, YOU WOULD SAY that biologists, anthropologists, forensic coroners, people running clinical drug trials, ALL OF THAT, would say they were obviously european in origin?
Just shut.the.fuck.up. ok? Socialism works in white countries.
Yes, just a quick look at the history of Russia will confirm that thesis.
Or were the Russsians just not 'white enough' to make socialism work?
Really? Then how, exactly, would your stupid ass explain the USSR?
Congratulations, you have officially gone full retard.
the USSR was far beyond socialism. You cannot compare that to Scandinavia and you prove yourself to be a complete RETARD by trying to do so.
Your monomania for anarchism is borne from your desire to lord your silver over people who starve.
Trav, try not to fuck up the small portion of where your right "diversity long term is no solution and probably poison" with socialism working in white countries. It never works and the working of it in Norway is directly and irrevocably tied to oil when that goes socialism for all intents and purposes ends too.
yes, I agree with this to some extent. But what about Sweden and Finland and Denmark and Iceland.
Just accept it, ok?
Stormfront Bitchez!
The population of Iceland is roughly one thousandth the population of the US. It's racial makeup and culture is more, shall I say, unified. A stretch to compare the two, IMHO.
The fall of the US will be violent. It will create power vacuums domestically between states and abroad between regional powers. For a time, it will be pure pandemonium.
The brainwashing is nearly complete....come back to us! The fall of the US goverment (as we know it) will not be the end of the world. It doesnt need to be supported at all costs in order to keep the world from falling into "violet panademonium". The US gov is not the warm security blanket you think.
I agree that it is both inevitable and necessary. I'm just saying we shouldn't have any illusions about the period. For a lot of Americans, it will be the end. Anyone who is remotely prepared should have a good chance of survival. But you know, that's like 10% of the population. The rest is too busy running each other off the road to get home and watch football.
But, my good Doctor, the fall of the USGov will be the end for the 50 percent who don't pay taxes, the 41 million on food stamps and the legions of citizens who are not properly prepared for a collapse. When they can't feed off the system, they will feed off of us. Then it will be the end. Already the infrastructure is being pillaged for scrap. When the smart and productive either disperse, get rolled over, or hunker down...well just ask any former Roman from 500 AD.
Hey Ron Hera......
How many billions does the SEC,and th CFTC and the FBI to do their fucking jobs....>
Lack of funding.....potentially hobbling enforcement
Stay away from the KoolAid.......Too stong for you...
The SEC,AND CFTC AND FBI,are a bunch of over funded porn watching perverts.
"All other things being equal, the U.S. will become a post industrial neo-3rd-world country by 2032."
2032? I was thinking 2012. In 20 years, the entire planet is going to be unrecognizable to people living today, far far worse than an actual 3rd world country.
It's a race to the bottom, bitchez! Scorched Earth, FTW!
We have been livinging in the "Darwinian Cheat" where we attempt to defy the laws of nature with fiat currencies. The "reset" is going to be catastrophic. The "bottom" of real estate will be abodes purchased (seized) not through "legal purchase under P&S", but through BRUTE PHYSICAL FORCE. Chew on that mental bubble gum.
Great. Can't wait.
sorry,... but arianna huffington said all the above [parts 1,2, & 3]
published ~ 9/9/10 ___ "America-The 3rd World"
although, a nice quick refresher
thanks
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/arianna-huffington/third-world-america-chron_b_676474.html
Stay the course, kids, or its violent revolution. You die, and worse you lose everything you have.
If we could get rid of the Fed and the dollar as the world’s reserve currency, and send the international bankers packing, we could get back to being the Land of Opportunity.
It’s amazing the similarities with a Third World country based on the points that the author makes, but America differs from the emerging nations in that it is a country separated from hostile neighbors with two oceans and relatively friendly nations north and south. It has vast natural resources, and it has a highly educated population.
We were warned time and time again from Thomas Jefferson on against the giant parasite that is sucking out the lifeblood of the American miracle – a central bank composed of international bankers, our Federal Reserve System and its creation, the IMF.
“What they do want, more than anything else, is social power. They want control over every living human being without question. All other concerns are secondary.” -- Giordano Bruno
it was freedom that built thr most powerful economic and social climate that human happiness has ever known. Central bankers have dashed those hopes, not mistakenly but deliberately. And the old world despotism now has the new world by the throat.
“[T]he issue and destruction of money by the money-lender is not a service, but a weapon which can be and has been used to perpetuate poverty amidst abundance, which renders individuals and nations powerless to protect themselves, and which may even be perverted to serve vast designs for the complete subjugation of the human race to tyranny, exploitation and the powers of darkness and evil.” – from a letter of “DEMAND FOR MONETARY REFORM IN ENGLAND” addressed in 1943 to English dignitaries by 32 prominent Englishmen.
This explains the tragedy that triggered America’s demise, when her representative government in 1913 gave central bankers who know no fatherland the sole privilege to issue and control the nation’s money supply… and to destroy it at their discretion.
The American Dream was about individualism and the opportunity to achieve success without interference from monopolist bankers with special privilege over the many. Get Big Brother off our backs and the American Dream will be restored.
Swing by the DMV sometime and see how long you hold on to that opinion.
But I gave you a green arrow because the rest of your post seemed spot-on.
I agree. Also we are educated enough to know what we are missing. Having lived for an extended period in the third world I can say that people had low expectations. Everyone here thinks they deserve whatever they want because they are special.
What are we highly educated in? A BFA in women's studies is't going to do much to keep us at first world status.
"Deservins got nothin' to do with it..."
The education gap has widened substantially. It is/what will be- America's downfall.
what education gap, the one between the haves and have nots? or between asians and blacks?
Both
Props to Asians
I don't know how they do it
then ASK.
Asians have higher average IQs than whites.
"ASK" are you Chinese Trav?
i thnk we can conclude that trav is african-american, at this point, BiCheZ!
White power!
I'm a motherfuckin space alien, bitchez
White powder!
"Props to Asians. I don't know how they do it"
They insist on education, "Tiger" moms and such. Also Asian women are very selective.
Between welfare slaves and free men, idiot.
blacks and hispanics comprise a large majority of welfare recipients, aka TANF.
Your constant reductio ad absurdum attempts to distill everything down to ridiculously simplified slogans is truly idiotic to behold.
So? They are slaves. White slaves behave just as poorly. The culture merely values the correct things, namely education and hard work, because we had time to develop that culture between the time that the majority of people were serfs and the time they started being coddled by the state. Stories about about the legendary worthlessness of Russian serfs for an entire generation after they were freed by the tsars. Yet today they have advanced mightily. Prior to the Civilizing effect of the Roman Empire, the Germanic tribes were all highly oppressed by each other and their own people. They lived in huts for thousands of years, yet as soon as they came under Roman laws, which respected property rights, and witnessed the wonders created by those people, they suddenly changed, and became proto-Europeans.
Your idiotic reduction of all the world's problems to "blacks did it" is what is "idiotic to behold". Funny you don't realize that those words mean that you are an idiot when you look at them. I would argue that you have ALWAYS been an idiot, in that you ignore any and all fact that does not agree with whatever ideas are already jangling around in your head.
Why don't you go to a fucking Obama rally, you dipshit socialist?
no; white slaves behave much better than blacks.
And dirt poor white trash still outscore middle class and even rich blacks on SATs.
The rest of this ancient history shit I ain't even gonna read. Including the part where you call me a "socialist" HAHAHAHAHAHA...another meaningless word. Rayciss...Socialisssss, wtf u gonna come up with next, you frickin faggot
Thanks, Real Estate Geek.
I live in California where extremely large waves of immigrants coming in from Mexico – legal and illegal – are from poor villages and are generally low educated and poor; many must be added to the welfare rolls.
Socialism, i.e., income redistribution, Obamacare, Medicaid, Food Stamps, Housing subsidies, job displacement of higher paid workers, is impoverishing the nation and now is piggy backing on the Social Security System which is more and more itself becoming a welfare program. Soon, if not stopped, socialism/welfare will lower all boats, except for the State-connected.
This is the elephant in the room that no one, this article included, wants to mention. How can America avoid becoming a Third World nation when it is importing a Third World nation?