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Hungary Folds, Ready To Change Its Laws To Get European Bailout Money

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If there is any one more vivid confirmation of Mayer Rothschild words "Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws" then we have yet to find it. Today Hungary, which had "valiantly" defied Europe and the IMF in ignoring pressure to make its central bank more "malleable" finally folded, following a recent explosion in its bond yields, a surge in CDS to records, and a collapse in its currency. And to think how easy it is to subjugate a state to slave status in our "globalized" days without shedding one drop of blood. Reuters reports: "Hungary's government is ready to consider modifying disputed legislation if the European Commission deems it necessary, Foreign Minister Janos Martonyi told the bloc's executive and European Union partners. "We fully respect the authority of the European Commission, the guardian of the EU treaties," Martonyi wrote in a letter dated January 6 and published by his ministry on Tuesday. "We stand ready to consider changing legislation, if necessary."" As Rothschild foresaw so effectively over 200 years ago, selling out your sovereignty only takes a few pieces of (paper) silver.

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Hungary, which wants to secure a multibillion euro financing deal with the International Monetary Fund and the European Union, is locked in a legal dispute with the European Central Bank and Brussels over a new central bank law.

 

The European Commission last month asked for the law, which it worried will compromise the bank's independence, to be repealed.

 

Martonyi said the government was ready to conduct dialogue with anyone who raised concrete concerns.

Hungary is merely the first case study of how the annexation of non Eurozone countries will proceed shortly, once it becomes clear that anyone who is not with a failed European experiment, is against it.

 


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Tue, 01/10/2012 - 11:09 | Link to Comment ACP
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I'll change my laws to get bailout money.

And then squander it, of course.

Then change the laws back.

Tue, 01/10/2012 - 11:11 | Link to Comment GetZeeGold
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I'm sure they'll feel pretty stupid when they find out it's not real silver.

Tue, 01/10/2012 - 11:14 | Link to Comment LawsofPhysics
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Exactly, more indebted slavery is NOT a bailout.  When is it America's turn?

Tue, 01/10/2012 - 11:17 | Link to Comment Harlequin001
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Treason.

Tue, 01/10/2012 - 12:39 | Link to Comment trav7777
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not exactly.  The global financial system makes it impossible to get energy without participating in a debt racket.  This is what happens when usurers control production and is WHY usurers have periodically been run out of countries throughout history.

So for Hungary, it's either starve and freeze or else knuckle under.  Iceland has its own energy and they even eat horses there.  They have had to belt tighten and become more autarchic.

It was either that or allow foreigners to take possession of their country as landlords. 

Sat, 03/24/2012 - 13:03 | Link to Comment l.hauri
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it is the same issue all over the world. I am sure that we will see improvements in this area. timeline covers

Tue, 01/10/2012 - 11:18 | Link to Comment francis_sawyer
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"Goodbye city life... Green Acres we are there!"

Tue, 01/10/2012 - 11:39 | Link to Comment Muddy1
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Are there news reports out of Hungary about bank runs and bare shelves in grocery stores?

Tue, 01/10/2012 - 11:55 | Link to Comment LawsofPhysics
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One might ask what the standard of living was to begin with.  I know several Hungarians, none of which are in a rush to return.

Tue, 01/10/2012 - 11:42 | Link to Comment Coast Watcher
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Greeks fleeing cities, going back to the land.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/09/world/europe/amid-economic-strife-gree...

 

Tue, 01/10/2012 - 12:48 | Link to Comment Ghordius
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Badly researched, Tyler - perhaps next time I go to Hungary I have to invite you

"Reuters reports: "Hungary's government is ready to consider modifying disputed legislation if the European Commission deems it necessary"

sheesh, it sounds too good to be true, eh? The IMF, the EU commission and SecState on one side and little Hungary on the other, of course you know where the baddies are, eh?

If you were Hungarian, you would be protesting for this law to change too. It's a new "Basic Law(s)" which is practically an Amendment to the Hungarian Constitution and is drawing protests among a population not known for protests. It has a lot of really unsavory (and illiberal) elements and for once the Commission is right.

http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/regions/europe/120103/hungary-pr...

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/03/world/europe/rare-opposition-protests-...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-16387117

I would add a zerohedge link but this time ZH is not "the source"...

Tue, 01/10/2012 - 14:33 | Link to Comment Excursionist
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Laws are enacted to make a central bank more beholden to politicians and their wheelings and dealings.  People protest the power grab.  Supra-national entities like the IMF call bullshit.  Said politicians retreat with tails between legs.

I'd say the retreat was unfortunate if Hungary's politicians were cut from a cloth different from the rest of the world's elected officials.  No evidence suggests they are, however.  So I have to also agree with the IMF et al.'s coercive tactics.  Sometimes you have to force your kids to eat their peas for their own good.

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 20:32 | Link to Comment 1 Peng?
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I never believed force-feeding children has long-term positive effects.

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 20:30 | Link to Comment 1 Peng?
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Not really, Tyler was absolutely to the point! (maybe not as much due to deep research, as to good instincts)

Hungary is a typical case where you don't get the fair picture from MSM! In other words MSM is bluntly lying. The reason: 

The Hungarian government managed to find itself a lot of powerful enemies both internally and externally by trying to work in the interest of its people. For example, taxing German-French state monopolies operating in Hungary and commercial banks hasn't earned them too many friends, but a christian type of new constitution is also not too popular with EU-politicans. 

You are right that those who were in the street in early January 'were not known for protests' before, because they represent the leftist elite which is now affraid of losing (some of) its power. Yesterday there was a pro-government protest in Budapest with 10-times more participants than the protest you were refering to. I am looking forward to see the coverage on it in Western MSM.

Next time you visit Hungary try to speak with more people!

Tue, 01/10/2012 - 13:13 | Link to Comment midtowng
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Hungarians voted in a proto-fascist government and gave up their rights in the hopes that their government would stand up for them.

Instead they were betrayed twice over.

Tue, 01/10/2012 - 11:09 | Link to Comment Dick Darlington
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Luckily Europeans have PLENTY of extra cash to spread around. Just one call to ponzimaster Rehn and it's fixed!

Tue, 01/10/2012 - 11:09 | Link to Comment Cone of Uncertainty
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Speaking of silver.

TIF down 11% as luxury spendig implodes globally.

Tue, 01/10/2012 - 11:13 | Link to Comment GMadScientist
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Good thing I didn't go long blue boxes.

Did you ever think that might be a function of their margins?

Tue, 01/10/2012 - 12:40 | Link to Comment trav7777
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well you pay $400 for $40 worth of silver.

But it IS a get out of a jail free card with your bitch

Tue, 01/10/2012 - 11:10 | Link to Comment Mongo
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Because, when it comes to the IMF, it just a matter who you pay and how much...

 

What a f***ing joke...

Tue, 01/10/2012 - 11:24 | Link to Comment GeneMarchbanks
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Another confirmation that a default in a sovereign is never going to happen at least in name. CDS = clown shoes.

Tue, 01/10/2012 - 11:11 | Link to Comment GMadScientist
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I guess there's no Gyorgy Dozsa among them today.

 

Tue, 01/10/2012 - 12:18 | Link to Comment Alienated Serf
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i now have a new hero.  awesome.

Tue, 01/10/2012 - 11:11 | Link to Comment Dr. Engali
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We welcome our new European Lords and masters with open arms.

Tue, 01/10/2012 - 11:26 | Link to Comment BennyBoy
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Kneel down before your Financial Elites!

The vig will be paid.

 

Funny Financial elite cartoons:

http://financeall.tumblr.com/

Tue, 01/10/2012 - 11:12 | Link to Comment cossack55
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Way too long under the jackboot of the USSR.  1956 was when Hungary was de-balled.  Slaves ever since. Go long knee-pads.

Tue, 01/10/2012 - 11:12 | Link to Comment GeneMarchbanks
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Eurozone or the IMF or both. These are the options for European nations...

Tue, 01/10/2012 - 11:16 | Link to Comment slaughterer
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You forgot a third option: BK

Tue, 01/10/2012 - 11:17 | Link to Comment GeneMarchbanks
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Burger King? WTF? That option doesn't exist. See: ISDA.

Tue, 01/10/2012 - 11:17 | Link to Comment Gandalf6900
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Yes unfortunately we are old countries, that have bcome lazy and painfully unelastic...united rebellion is almost unthinkable in Europe...sigh!!!

Tue, 01/10/2012 - 11:18 | Link to Comment ZeroPower
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They dont even have the EUR yet and already this BS. Whoa...take heed non-Eurozone EU members!

Tue, 01/10/2012 - 11:53 | Link to Comment slaughterer
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Hungary contained.  Greece soon to be contained.  Not one black swan let out of its cage.  

Tue, 01/10/2012 - 11:18 | Link to Comment Kaiser Sousa
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the people of Hungary should prepare to go Hungry....

Tue, 01/10/2012 - 11:18 | Link to Comment curbyourrisk
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BITCH SLAVE!!!

 

 

Tue, 01/10/2012 - 11:27 | Link to Comment wandstrasse
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former Goldmanite taking over Hungarian government in 5, 4, 3, 2..

Tue, 01/10/2012 - 11:28 | Link to Comment Vince Clortho
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Has a time been announced for the official boot-licking ceremony?

Tue, 01/10/2012 - 11:29 | Link to Comment EscapeKey
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Hungary's main exports are porn stars and goulash, although I'm not too sure about the goulash.

Tue, 01/10/2012 - 12:20 | Link to Comment Hippocratic Oaf
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But we're def sure 'bout the porn stars and don't forget the strippers.

Tue, 01/10/2012 - 11:31 | Link to Comment blueridgeviews
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And the monopoly money keeps coming for those who need it. We are now 2 years since the crisis in Greece and still no solution except printing/making up money to hand over to countries. For what? The illusion of no problems?

 

I just got a 1099 from an account I have and got paid $100 for loaning $8600 for an entire year.

 

When I grew up I was told to save your money and let IT work for you. I'm ready to FIRE my money for not working.

 

4 more years of Obuma and I'll be ready for suicide.

Tue, 01/10/2012 - 11:45 | Link to Comment Vegamma
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You earned over 1%? Easy blueridge and back of the risk taking before someone gets hurt. Or were most of your returns early in the year when Tbill yields were non-negative?

Tue, 01/10/2012 - 11:50 | Link to Comment EscapeKey
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got paid $100 for loaning $8600 for an entire year.

Don't forget to pay your taxes.

Tue, 01/10/2012 - 11:35 | Link to Comment BandGap
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Junkies will do anything for a fix.

The real problem with this is that other governments are going to point this as an example of "cooperation" among the Eurozone and their sheeple. I mean, if Hungary can do it, why not others?

Tue, 01/10/2012 - 11:36 | Link to Comment illyia
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I would love to see names: Follow the money; this is a crime scene.

Eh?

Tue, 01/10/2012 - 11:38 | Link to Comment The Count
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The Hungarian are spineless idiots just like the rest of us.

 

Tue, 01/10/2012 - 11:39 | Link to Comment niccolo and donkey
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The socialists trashed the country and their leader (who was Premier at the time) was caught on tape admitting to repeatedly lying about state finances and the state of the Magyar economy.  Fidesz, led by Orban, was swept in through disgust with the socialists.

 

Unfortunately, global powers led by Hillary Clinton have been engaged in a full-court press on Hungary since Orban came into power with the banking laws being at the top of "western concerns".

 

Read all about it what's going on in Hungary here:

 

http://www.saloforum.com/index.php?threads/hungarys-orbanization-is-worr...

Tue, 01/10/2012 - 11:52 | Link to Comment The Count
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Our government has been taken over by high finance and misuse that power to bully the rest of the world.

Tue, 01/10/2012 - 11:40 | Link to Comment LookingWithAmazement
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So then. The next Black Swan, Hungary, saved and solved. No crisis. Next one, please.

Tue, 01/10/2012 - 11:41 | Link to Comment fightthepower
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Losers

Tue, 01/10/2012 - 11:47 | Link to Comment ricocyb13
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the country of Hungary had a great advisor, hungarian jew Mr. George Soros.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Soros

Tue, 01/10/2012 - 11:53 | Link to Comment The Count
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What else is new. What do you think Bernanke, Paulson, etc etc etc are?

Tue, 01/10/2012 - 12:09 | Link to Comment SMG
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Oh you mean Illuminati, right?

Tue, 01/10/2012 - 12:39 | Link to Comment Alienated Serf
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did you just say hank paulson is jewish?  LOL.  christian scienist loon, but thanks for trying.

Tue, 01/10/2012 - 12:50 | Link to Comment The Count
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I quote wiki...

Paulson was born in Palm Beach, Florida, to Marianna (née Gallauer) and Henry Merritt Paulson, a wholesale jew-eler.

Presto!

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 12:14 | Link to Comment Doe
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They didn't even have to go to Soros for advice. Martonyi, the foreign minister quoted in the article had the "honor" of participating in Bilderberg's 2008 meeting. 

 

http://newsworldwide.wordpress.com/2008/06/09/bilderberg-meeting-sorted-...

Tue, 01/10/2012 - 11:52 | Link to Comment AldoHux_IV
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How pathetic in what it takes to bend so many to so few's will via the same instrument that will blow up in their faces: debt.

While this development is bad for anyone not in the elite funded class, one wonders when Hungary will be blamed for troubles in the euro system.

Tue, 01/10/2012 - 11:52 | Link to Comment Dcheeth2
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Humpf,

I had a bet with my mate, that Austria will be bailing out banks faster than speedy gonzales as a result of Hungary, before Ireland drops the Euro (his perception of the first cataclysm).

Oh well, that's me a tenner out of pocket then.

Tue, 01/10/2012 - 11:54 | Link to Comment Non Passaran
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Of course. The ruling party wants to stay on power.
And the main question is will they return the "borrowed" pension fund money... I think we know the answer. This was never about "Hungary" but about fight for power over the voters. It makes no difference. Actually the citizenry might be better off with the IMF involved.

Tue, 01/10/2012 - 11:55 | Link to Comment MayerRothschild
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All according to plan.  Nothing to see... Please move along...

 

 

 

 


Tue, 01/10/2012 - 12:48 | Link to Comment Snakeeyes
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Once again, Hungary submits to the bootheel of Germany.

 

Tue, 01/10/2012 - 14:33 | Link to Comment steve from virginia
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For Hungary to escape the euro Ponzi scheme they must be more forceful.

The UK is not a good example for Hungary as the country is too large for the Europeans to indimidate. It's also separated from the Continent by that damnable creek. It's also too prickly: that Hitler chap had problems with Brits during his attempt to unify the eurozone from 1940-on.

Best for Hungary to follow the example of Iceland. The Hungarians need to turn to themselves and let the rest of the Europeans fend for themselves. The conflation of economic interests and the ideal of political accomodation across the continent is intellectually dishonest. Ror the large countries in Europe to economically bugger the smaller is not solidarity but rape.

Hungary simply needs to default on its euro-denominated debts. This would be a PRIVATE set of defaults (Hungarian sovereign debt is largely denominated in forints). The Hungarian's problem is that the government is trying to support the Hungarian banking sector which is insolvent (like all the other banking sectors).

Of course, euro capital would flee the country but this would be a good thing (inevitable, under any set of circumstances. What is a euro? A European word that means 'zero'.) Right now, the cost in forints to buy euros (to service/repay euro-denominated debts) is increasing. Ditto the cost of Swiss francs which is the other currency of note circulating in Hungary. Budapest should simply order its banks to stiff both sets of lenders and watch what happens next.

A default is inevitable, nothing the IMF or EC can do to prevent it. A small euro loan will not fix what is wrong in Hungary as the same order of business cannot fix what is wrong with Italy or Spain. Once on EU country exits, so goes Germany.

Germany MUST exit or all of Europe's massive liabilities are fixed to its (Germany's) balance sheet as it is the only semi-solvent EU country. Even if tiny Greece defaults instead of Spain or Italy, the liabilites of the EU beginning with Greece's lenders will cascade. Germany will have little time to decide whether it will follow UK or become the bagholder/fool in the market for the rest of the Europeans ... all this with no euro as it would also vanish in a heartbeat.

 Wiping out the euro and leaving 'Mr Nobody' to owe trillions is the European strategy for dealing with its massive and increasing debts. In the meantime, kick Hungary and Belarus, Latvia and Portugal.

Paybacks are hell ...

Tue, 01/10/2012 - 15:04 | Link to Comment hungarianboy
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Don't trust us! We'll grab the money and change it back in another way. You pay we laugh... :D

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 02:15 | Link to Comment johnjb32
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"Hungary is merely the first case study of how the annexation of non Eurozone countries will proceed shortly, once it becomes clear that anyone who is not with a failed European experiment, is against it."

LMFAO!... Pass the popcorn. Hungary goes fascist to get European bailout money, when Europe is dying. They do not grasp that they are fighting for a better berth on the Titanic. On the other hand, herein lie the clearly visible seeds of a bloody European shooting war. I am not the first to have seen that.

Someone needs to get the children out of the control room. -- Michael C. Ruppert

 

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