If Hitler Was A Goldbug...

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... all it would take to end his regime would be a few CME margin hikes. Of course, if Hitler had somehow survived those 2008 margin calls, we would all be living under the 3rd Reich now with gold at all time highs.

And for those who are sick of all the Hitler parodies, here is another one.

h/t Igoryek1979

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Fri, 09/09/2011 - 19:39 | 1652931 Rahm
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Gold, bitchez!

Fri, 09/09/2011 - 22:07 | 1653131 MarketTruth
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When Hitler conquered a nation they took their gold bullion... and of course artwork,etc. Then again the Swiss allowed storage for various people, etc... and it took decades to get Switzerland to release it to the rightful owners.

 

 

Sat, 09/10/2011 - 01:03 | 1653731 malek
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Yeah, at least that's what the MSM want you to believe.

Sat, 09/10/2011 - 02:26 | 1653837 BaBaBouy
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Hehehehe ... It's late Friday, and TYLER's been drinkin' Again ...

Sat, 09/10/2011 - 11:48 | 1654427 gmrpeabody
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Classic..

I needed the laugh.

Sun, 09/11/2011 - 01:35 | 1655762 Goldilocks
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Another Hitler parody, same video…

Crash JP Morgan Buy Silver - Max Keiser vs. Jamie Dimon

“Any moron who makes less than $50 million a year, leave now…”

“Fuck those smart asses at Zero Hedge!”

“Don’t cry, Blythe, the IMF will hire you.”

Sat, 09/10/2011 - 11:04 | 1654335 pain_and_soros
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Through the press propaganda, through the use of the organs of information, it was possible to found the great model parties. Already in those early days they saw to it shrewdly that here were always two or three groups apparently hostile to each other, but in fact all hanging on a gold thread, the whole designed to take account of a human characteristic - that the longer a man possesses an object, the more readily he grows tired of it. He craves something new: therefore one needs two parties. The one is in office, the other in opposition. When the one has played itself out, then the opposition party comes into power, and the party which has had its day is now in its turn the opposition. After twenty years the new party itself has once more played itself out and the game begins afresh. In truth this is a highly ingenious mill in which the interests of a nation are ground very small. As everyone knows, this system is given some such name as 'Self-Government of a People.'

Besides this we always find two great catchwords, 'Freedom' and 'Democracy,' used, I might say, as signboards. 'Freedom': under that term is understood, at least amongst those in authority who in fact carry on the Government, the possibility of an unchecked plundering of the masses of the people to which no resistance can be offered. The masses themselves naturally believe that under the term 'freedom' they possess the right to a quite peculiar freedom of motion - freedom to move the tongue and to say what they choose, freedom to move about the streets, etc. A bitter deception!

Sounds like a perfect description of the current US political landscape and the naivety of the vast majority of its citizens, doesn't it?

The ominous part is this was written in 1922 about England, as the British Empire was losing its status as the most powerful entity in the world, by none other than Adolf Hitler.

http://www.hitler.org/speeches/07-28-22.html

 

Sat, 09/10/2011 - 21:23 | 1655492 New_Meat
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kinda' like Sophmore Poly Sci in a 3d tier junior college, just sayin'

Ominous was like 10 yearz away.

Sat, 09/10/2011 - 02:20 | 1653834 cynicalskeptic
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Japan took a hell of a lot more.  Somehow - according to the official histories - most of it was never recovered.    But then with China going Communist and Korea split and in the midst of a war in the early 1950's do you really think the US would ackowledge finding it, much less return it to China, Korea and elsewhere?   (Note;  The FAILURE to return stolen tons of gold and silver to China after WWII is one more reason for the Chinese to be royally po'd at the US)

According to some - Yamashita's treasure was used as a slush fund by the CIA for decades funding black ops and buying off governments.

Maybe the price of gold was NOT manipulated for decades but instead was kept down by a continual influx of gold sold into world markets.  But they've blown theoir wad - it's gone now.  Hence the conscious manipulation - for other reasons (propping up fiat).  We're in major tin foil hat territory here but some have made a convincing case.  On the positive side, this means that there's no longer a huge amount of bullion that could be dumped onto world markets - disrupting markets and depressing the price.

The ultimate question is: Where did it all go?   Who owns it now?

Would be really a bitch if the only reason the Arabs  kept selling the US oil is that they were allowed to convert paper $$$ to gold and they're hollding a lot more than they've acknowledged.  (But then maybe the bankers leased it out or 'borrowed' it back).

 

Sat, 09/10/2011 - 02:47 | 1653878 cossack55
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Black Eagle Bitchezzz!!!!

Fri, 09/09/2011 - 21:34 | 1653200 ihedgemyhedges
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If I remember correctly, isn't this a rerun on ZH Tyler?????  Know I've seen it somewhere.

Sat, 09/10/2011 - 09:51 | 1654229 SilverIsKing
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Hitler's many appearances on ZH. Enjoy...

http://www.zerohedge.com/search/apachesolr_search/Hitler

Fri, 09/09/2011 - 21:57 | 1653242 BKbroiler
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"Gold is not necessary. I have no interest in gold.  We'll build a solid state, without an ounce of gold behind it.  Anyone who sells above set prices, let him be marched off to a concentration camp.  That's the bastion of money" - Adolf Hitler

Fri, 09/09/2011 - 22:55 | 1653290 Zero Govt
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Yep, somwhat perverse how JP Morgan got this anti-truth inversion (perversion) of the actual truth onto ZH today ...saying James Turk and Jim Sinclair "got it wrong" in this Hitler rant when of course they've been bang on the button for 10 years... when the truth doesn't fit, make-up blatant lies ...maybe it was Elliott Waves delusional idiot, Rob Prechter, that got this piece of crap on here, he's been wrong for 10 years on Gold and the entire past 20 months 

Here's Prince of Pricks, Rob Prechter, finally admitting he got it "wrong on Gold for some time 6mins into this Vid (he misses out it was 20 months in a row of cataclysmic wave counts and his retarded side-kick, Steven Hochberg, managed nearly 100 weeks straight of failing crashing waves)

http://greshams-law.com/2011/08/12/robert-prechter-on-bloomberg-11811/

Yep the Tweedle-Dumb and Tweedle Dipshit of financial predictions, Prechter & Hochberg, have been whitewashed for nearly 2 years on Gold but the delusional Mr Prechter still thinks he has a legit opnion calling Gold too high t buy at $1,800 an Ounce... Gold of course went to over $1,900 so impoverished Elliot Wave subscribers already missing a 100% move in Silver in 2010 (i'm one) are missing out again listening to these frauds of finance

Elliott Wave theory.  the biggest pile of crap ever peddled by a bunch of delusional incompetent quacks (Prechter are you listening?)

Fri, 09/09/2011 - 22:59 | 1653407 ronin12
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+ DOW 3000.

Sat, 09/10/2011 - 01:22 | 1653615 Daily Bail
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Tyler...a public service announcememnt...TARP Taxayer Rapist John Thain was on CNBC today getting fellatio from Maria Bartiromo:

http://dailybail.com/home/john-thain-tarp-taxpayer-rapist-with-maria-bar...

If you've never seen WalStreetPro rip off Thain's head and piss down his neck, you can watch that here:

http://dailybail.com/home/the-greatest-youtube-video-of-all-time-revolut...

My apologies for the Friday night interruption...

 

Sat, 09/10/2011 - 02:04 | 1653814 Fish Gone Bad
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My my my, Maria is looking particularly frightening lately.  Must have her makeup gun set to "Bride of Frankenstein".

Sat, 09/10/2011 - 01:45 | 1653792 Whalley World
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When I read Conquer The Crash in 02 I could'nt believe that a very smart guy could not get gold (Roubini, you listening)  Tea leaf readers get way too much respect.

PS Jim Sinclair quit doing interviews on financialsense.com when Prechter came on to talk down gold.  Not long after, we got jsmineset.com so thanks Rob, er I think

Sat, 09/10/2011 - 04:29 | 1653950 Snidley Whipsnae
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ZG... I have found financial nirvana by being short charts since the mid 1960s...

Or, as Jim Rogers puts it "I have never met a wealthy technician"

Sat, 09/10/2011 - 04:40 | 1653957 Snidley Whipsnae
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Hitler's fat would have been pulled from the fire (again) by Hjalmar Schacht, Reichsminister of Finance.

Schacht was brilliant... No quantity of bull shit repellent could prevent Western bankers from falling under his spell.

"Rise and Fall of the Third Reich" WL Shirer... great history for those with the time to read it...

Fri, 09/09/2011 - 19:39 | 1652932 Id fight Gandhi
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Ugh, this is painful if you speak German.

Fri, 09/09/2011 - 19:53 | 1652956 Not For Reuse
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yes, quite amusing indeed, but volume needs to be at zero to enjoy

Fri, 09/09/2011 - 20:59 | 1653112 narapoiddyslexia
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You obviously do not speak German. This is not funny. This is not parody. This is not humor. This is not what you think.

This does not belong here.

Fri, 09/09/2011 - 21:21 | 1653161 prole
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If not here- where?

Sat, 09/10/2011 - 02:16 | 1653827 Fish Gone Bad
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@narapoiddyslexia - Here, let me try to 'splain to you why this is funny. Hitler had a freakin' film crew in his bunker filming himself have a meltdown during World War II. How much more reality TV does it get?

Fri, 09/09/2011 - 21:31 | 1653191 Leraconteur
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I understand what the original script and what Hitler is saying in this scene.

This meme is funny due to the fact of the over-reaction of the actor to the events when other text inserted.

If one cannot laugh about the final capitulation of the German military as the Russians close in and Berlin lay defenseless, and Adolf laments not killing his entire high command, then what can one ever laugh about? 

Fri, 09/09/2011 - 21:43 | 1653221 ihedgemyhedges
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Sprechen sie, STFU??????????????

Fri, 09/09/2011 - 22:46 | 1653377 Not For Reuse
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wow, wrong 6 out of 6, pls let me know if you are long or short equities right now. TIA

Sat, 09/10/2011 - 14:40 | 1654788 Freddie
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The tragedy is the German people elected an usurper from Austria - ditto the US in 2008 with the Kenyan illegal.  The "allies" post WW1 using the banksters really F'ed Germany over helped by Morgan and Rothschilds.  Sadly the Germany military did not take Hitler and the SS/Gestapo out circa 1940.

Fri, 09/09/2011 - 20:43 | 1653069 Lord Welligton
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It's all Greek to me.

Fri, 09/09/2011 - 20:49 | 1653085 Freddie
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Sadly Germany got this Austrian usurper thanks to - who else - Morgan/Rockefellers and Rothschilds bleeding Germany for reparations.

Fri, 09/09/2011 - 23:36 | 1653535 hivekiller
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And for the second time too. Nobody comes to power without the help of the bankers. He was doing just what they wanted until he tried to free Germany of the tentacles of the bankers. Once he did that he became enemy number one of the moneychangers. Without Hitler, there would be no Israel so he's the patrol saint of that shitty little country. Nuremberg was just a show trial where Germans were tortured into false confessions. The people who profited from the war were never mentioned, never prosecuted. America made off with German technology and scientists and benefited from Europe's destruction.

Oh and by the way, there was no holocaust. The Jews were re-located to concentration camps to create the myth of the six million dead in ovens and to protect them from the carnage of war.

So much for history.

Sat, 09/10/2011 - 01:01 | 1653725 Antipodeus
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"Oh and by the way, there was no holocaust. The Jews were re-located to concentration camps to create the myth of the six million dead in ovens and to protect them from the carnage of war."?

And you are a disgusting piece of bilious sub-human shiiit. Just the sort of intellectually sub-standard, evolutionarily-deficient moron who Shitler wouldn't even have bothered sending to the camps -- just a muddy ditch somewhere (along with the rest of your useless family).


Sat, 09/10/2011 - 01:17 | 1653755 hivekiller
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Did you know that as many as 150,000 part Jews served in the German army including two field marshals and fifteen generals (two full generals, eight lieutenant generals, five major generals) according to the book Hitler's Jewish Soldiers? Did you know that Hitler offered to free all the Jews in Europe if the Zionist leadership paid a fee for each person and re-located them out of Germany but the Zionists turned them down? Did you know that of the supposed six million dead Jews that four million were to have died at Auschwitz but that officially that number is now down to 1 million yet the official myth still says that six million died. Further did you know that official records at Auschwitz only show 58,000 deaths? Do you know how much Germany has paid in reparations to Jews to the millions who claim to be 'survivors'? There's lots more. So all you Jews who don't like the truth can fuck off.

Sat, 09/10/2011 - 02:41 | 1653866 AnAnonymous
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and re-located them out of Germany

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Relocation of people? Sounds like a typical US citizen move...

Sat, 09/10/2011 - 09:46 | 1654221 Léonard
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Let me guess, hivekiller... are you a muslim ?

I'm asking because we have so many poor litlle muslims over here that love Hitler and who are trying to push us against them and f*** Europe once again.

Sat, 09/10/2011 - 11:39 | 1654400 hivekiller
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Actually I'm partly Jewish but was raised an American so I don't think like Jews do. You know. The whole chosen we're holier, better, and smarter than you bit and the rest of you are donkeys, cattle, cockroaches, etc. I don't care for Muslims any more than I care for fundamentalists of any religion. They are all a threat to my freedom. I say deport them before your culture is overwhelmed by them just like we need to deport all the hispanics and send blacks back to Africa. You can't have a civilization where people who are intellectually inferior are granted special privileges and called victims. Look at Zimbabwe. Look at South Africa if you want to know what's in America's future. Don't like what I say? Kiss my ass. The whole plan for allowing unlimited immigration comes from Jews who want Israel as a racially pure state - shades of Hitler - and the rest of the world a multicultural mess. Don't fall for it. It's a lie designed to destroy Western civilization and the idea of individual freedom.

Sat, 09/10/2011 - 16:12 | 1654964 b-rad-is-rad
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I don't think like Jews do. You know. The whole chosen we're holier, better, and smarter than you bit and the rest of you are donkeys, cattle, cockroaches, etc.

THEN

I say deport them before your culture is overwhelmed by them just like we need to deport all the hispanics and send blacks back to Africa. You can't have a civilization where people who are intellectually inferior are granted special privileges and called victims.

See anything inconsistent?

Sat, 09/10/2011 - 17:10 | 1655067 hivekiller
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There is no reason to for affirmative action, special set asides for minorities, or political correctness which is nothing more than lying about history,  the truth about mean IQ differences between the races, differences in crime rates between the races, use of welfare, etc. Forcing whites to carry the burden of caring for minorities is a form of slavery. Blacks have an entire continent. Let them return to it. Same with hispanics. They have more than an entire continent. Let's see what they can create aside from the contribution of whites. I doubt it will be much more than salsa.

Sun, 09/11/2011 - 10:32 | 1656013 Are you kidding
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One is between whites...the second is between a white and a black.  It's perfectly consistent.

Sat, 09/10/2011 - 14:45 | 1654804 Freddie
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80%+ of American Jews voted for a known Muslim in 2008 to destroy America and they still love him.  This occurred 7 years after 9/11. 

Sat, 09/10/2011 - 09:51 | 1654227 Léonard
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You mean Hitler, that guy who was funded by Prescott Bush (president Bush's father and president W Bush's grandfather) and so many others WASP National Socialism sympathizers ?

Sat, 09/10/2011 - 11:09 | 1654341 boiltherich
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Not to mention Henry Ford and Brown Brothers Harriman.

But holocaust denying is nothing new, though I am surprised and embarrassed for those here that give this fucker +1's in spite of a total and complete lack of documentation of his claims.  Quite true there was a lot of blame to go around in a world as messed up as it was then and is now, but anybody that thinks fascism is ever OK, that Hitler was not pure evil, that millions and millions of people were treated like garbage to be destroyed on an industrial scale, sadly there are some of you here and many in our modern nation, and you are the antithesis of life, everything that is good is denied to you and you can't figure out why.  Open your eyes, the ugliness of life is in you not outside, not some banker in Europe, not a Jew or Israel, it is your own diseased mind.

Sat, 09/10/2011 - 10:10 | 1654261 clymer
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Why don't you people like jews? I'll tell you why! let's examine the word: "jew" ..Rhymes with "Eew", as in "Eeeeewww.. A Jew."

 

Such a silly reason not to like an entire class of peoples.

 

why don't we just all agree to dislike intergenerational, inbred, control-freak families that like to centrally plan global events so that they will always remain in control of this old rock, even if it means war, famine, poverty and genocide? Some are Jewish, some are Christian, Some are Muslim and some are fricken Chinese-Buhdist-midget-porn-watching, black gay jewish klansmen.

http://picture.funnycorner.net/funny-pictures/5063/black-pink-klan-love-...

 

 

 

 

 

Sat, 09/10/2011 - 12:42 | 1654531 Exposer of Inte...
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WW1 = gives the land back to Israel

ww2 - Pushed the Jews back to their land

ww3 (Coming) All the nations go against Israel to fight against it

Epiilog: Jesus Christ comes back and ALL eyes shall see him, Israel (as a nation) recognizes he was the Messiah and ALL israel is saved.

1000 year Millenimum reign of Jesus Christ on earth who rules with a rod of Iron

Sat, 09/10/2011 - 14:51 | 1654811 Freddie
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Jesus will rule with a rod of Iron?  Huh? 

Sat, 09/10/2011 - 18:10 | 1655143 See in the pink
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Q: Why do shepherds wear flowing robes?

A: 'Cause sheep can hear the sound of a zipper from a mile away...

 

 

Fri, 09/09/2011 - 19:43 | 1652940 FiscalCrater
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Achtung Bitchez!

Fri, 09/09/2011 - 20:00 | 1652978 idea_hamster
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...or

"Ach! Tungsten! Bitches!"

when you try to take delivery.

(which, I suppose would be "Ach! Wolfram!" but you get my point.)

Fri, 09/09/2011 - 19:45 | 1652942 El Gato
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"I should have bought Google! Like Stalin!"

Fri, 09/09/2011 - 19:45 | 1652944 --Freedom--
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Wow. That was as good as the iPad one.

Fri, 09/09/2011 - 19:47 | 1652948 redcorona
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I don't think he was very fond of gold actually.  But he is more relevant than ever.  Here are Hitlers thoughts on 1) gun control 2) media manipulation 3) the police state and 4) the origin of the left/right paradigm.

http://www.hitler.org/speeches/07-28-22.html

 

Fri, 09/09/2011 - 20:33 | 1653040 Urban Roman
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It's interesting that there's a site called hitler-dot-org.

I wonder if there's a similar memorial to Caligula?

Fri, 09/09/2011 - 21:51 | 1653238 ihedgemyhedges
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"I wonder if there's a similar memorial to Caligula?"

Yes, it's under the new .xxx domain...........................

Sat, 09/10/2011 - 02:55 | 1653887 cossack55
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Yes. www.SEC.org.

Sat, 09/10/2011 - 00:25 | 1653670 ninja-ish
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wow. i never would've guessed that his speeches were so rational. as far as international banking usury conspiracies, he was right on. Especially when you find out that the Ashkenazi Jews are not Semetic Hebrews, but are actually Gog and Magog, mentioned in Ezekiel 38 and 39 of the Bible and Surah Kahf 18:94 and Surah Anbya 21:96 of the Quran. The world is in deep shit. When you research these people from religious texts, you'll find out that they are unstoppable international corrupters and murderers destined for global domination. Good luck!

Sat, 09/10/2011 - 01:04 | 1653732 tmosley
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What!?  The Jews are giants from British folklore?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gogmagog_(folklore) or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gog_and_Magog

lol, talk about dumb.

Let's all go crazy and blame ethnic groups rather than the people actually responsible for this mess!  Then let's drudge up some stupid inapplicable folklore in a quest to incite hatred against a group of people!

Never mind that most of the people responsible aren't Jews.  Never mind those sorts of facts.  In fact, let's honor Tim Geithner as a hero among men for not being a Jew.

Sat, 09/10/2011 - 02:36 | 1653859 ninja-ish
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you're an idiot. did you get all your information from two Wikipedia articles, or did you look up actual references I listed? Gog and Magog are religious entities, not "British folklore". just because myths get attributed to something factual, doesn't make it false. now, i never said ALL Jews were anything. nor did I say I hated them. I merely pointed out that Ashkenazis are not Hebrews. if you deny this point, your a double idiot.

Sat, 09/10/2011 - 02:45 | 1653873 ninja-ish
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additionally, if you're going to argue that international finance is not largely run by the Jews, you're a triple idiot. because from Bernanke, to Geithner, to Greenspan, to Stiglitz, and many other top economic figures, it's a clear pattern of predominantly Jewish influence. ever heard of the Rothschilds? not that ALL the people responsible are Jews or that ALL Jews are responsible. if you're only looking at absolutes, you're just asking to miss the obvious big picture. however, i think I made it pretty clear that i'm not anti-Jewish by the fact that I was surprised by Hitler's essay. if i was a racist, i wouldn't have been so surprised that a racist could make such a compelling argument. but i think you've just proven the opposite: that non-racists can be morons. now, if you'd actually looked up any credible info, you'd know the descriptions of "giants" isn't mentioned in the Bible at all. neither are any of the other bizarre details. go check your facts.

Sat, 09/10/2011 - 08:51 | 1654140 tmosley
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JEWS ARE DEMONS ITS A FACTOMGWTFBBQ

FYI, Geithener isn't a Jew, and most of the TBTF banks aren't run by Jews (JPMorgan being the exception).

You have no idea what you are talking about, and instead use crazy interpretations of ancient folklore to try to prove that members of another race/religion are something or another as an excuse to hate them.

Stupid.

Sat, 09/10/2011 - 08:57 | 1654152 nmewn
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Jew bashing is the national pastime from the ME all the way through Europe...its sorta like soccer for them...lol.

Sat, 09/10/2011 - 09:16 | 1654181 ninja-ish
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did I say Jews were demons? no. did you check my references? no. of all the people i listed, you found one non-Jew. congratulations. if you're arguing the Jews don't control international finance, you need to get a life. you conveniently didn't mention Rothschild... again, the whole point of what I said is to demonstrate that Ashkenazi Jews actually aren't the biblical Jews at all. you don't have a response to this, which is why you're dodging the issue.

 

you're the one that has no idea what you're talking about. and you're claiming I hate people, after I clearly demonstrated that I didn't. but just because i don't hate someone, doesn't mean that i'm not going to call a spade a spade.

Sat, 09/10/2011 - 09:28 | 1654194 tmosley
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I'm not "dodging the issue".  I'm calling you out as a lunatic who is doing nothing but spreading hatred based off of some lunatic theory by "citing" the Bible.

No one cares, you lunatic.

Also nice how you coveniently ignore the fact that all but one of the TBTF banks are run by non-Jews.  So there has been a rash of Jews in the Fed.  Imagine that!  There is no such thing as nepotism, after all, it must all be a big giant conspiracy that has been going on since biblical times!

You can call a spade a spade, but you are also calling a rake a spade, and a hammer a spade, and a racoon a spade, and trancendentalism a spade.  EVERYTHING is a spade to you.  Because you're a hate filled lunatic.

Sat, 09/10/2011 - 09:37 | 1654205 ninja-ish
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answer this question: are Ashkenazi Jews the Biblical Jews? if they aren't who are they? i see nothing wrong with identifying the Jews by using THE BIBLE of all sources.

 

did I say the TBTF banks are run by Jews? no. i said that international finance is run by Jews, and the top economists are also largely Jewish. Lloyd Blankfein is Jewish. Krugman is Jewish. the list goes on and on. but that's not my point. who cares about what religion they practice? i'm discussing their identity and their role in the world economy.

Sat, 09/10/2011 - 10:08 | 1654258 SilverIsKing
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Much like the Chinese laundry and Greek diner? Right?

Sat, 09/10/2011 - 18:15 | 1655149 See in the pink
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Concrete and trash-hauling, anyone? :p

Sat, 09/10/2011 - 09:50 | 1654222 ninja-ish
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if you have a problem with identifying the Biblical Jews and identifying Gog and Magog, that's your issue. i have no problem at all calling a spade a spade. you can keep the rakes, the hammers, and the racoons to your self and go throw a transcendalist party in a dark closet somewhere for all I care. i'm not spreading hate, because that's not my motivation.

 

but here is the issue your have to deal with:

if the Ashkenazi Jews aren't biblical Jews, then who are they?

if the Ashkenazi Jews aren't Gog and Magog, then who is?

questions you'll never answer, because you don't wanna know. or you don't want the rest of us to know.

Sat, 09/10/2011 - 09:53 | 1654233 Léonard
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International finance is mostly runned by WASP people and the WASP mentality.

Sat, 09/10/2011 - 18:17 | 1655156 See in the pink
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Grammatical gibberish is mostly speaked by...?

Sun, 09/11/2011 - 17:08 | 1657285 prains
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I didn't know that George and Dick were Jewish, missed that somehow

Sat, 09/10/2011 - 10:27 | 1654288 jm
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You shouldn't be banned, but you need to be corrected.

Hitler wasn't rational in any sense of the term.  He was a petty opportunist that demonized gays, Jews, and other groups to gain power, while he was partly Jewish and most likely gay himself.  And this worked when combined with vested interests that used him to harness citizen funding of their interests... a war machine.   This technique endures to this day because of the massive ignorance of the majority. 

Practically speaking, the idea of calling a man that initiated an unwinnable two-front war rational is completely irrational.  Calling a man rational that placed so little value to human life is absoutely irrational.

But above all, Hitler was a man that had no concern for anyone but himself.  He didn't care if the gernal staff was killed for his mistake.  He frankly didn't care if the entire country was burned to ashes to validate his wishes.  He didn't care about the literal rape of Berlin.  You are absolutely irrational for thinking he provides any meaningful rationality in this world.

Please learn the lessons of history and do not repeat them.

There is something innate in man to explore, and exploring evil is a part of this.  But evil offers nothing but destruction, so don't speak of it lightly. 

Sat, 09/10/2011 - 11:24 | 1654370 ninja-ish
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are you people reading what you want to read or what?! i NEVER said Hitler was rational. I said that I was SURPRISED that he could make such a rational ARGUMENT. if you didn't read his speech, you won't get it.

 

you're the one who needs to be corrected. obviously, there's nothing "rational" about gassing millions of innocent people. but even a crazy tyrant can make a logical statement. maybe you'll realize i'm not a neo-nazi if i explain that if Hitler were alive, he'd probably kill me. was he crazy? yes. were his war tactics crazy? yes. does that mean he's never been right or made sense in his whole life? no. see you people claim that others are generalizing the Jews and painting them all with an evil brush, and then turn around and generalize others in different areas. hypocrites. i never said Hitler should win a humanitarian award. what i was highlighting was his ability to recognize the deception of the international bankers in Germany. period. get your facts straight.

Sat, 09/10/2011 - 11:45 | 1654416 jm
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When you say:  "i never would've guessed that his speeches were so rational" it is a disturbing sign of an inability to look deeply at the facts, as opposed to project what you want ot see.  His speeches are not rational .  I can't see where Hitler ever made sense. 

His father hated him for who he was and instilled a self-hatred that destroyed much of the world.  This self-loathing, on a personal and collective level continues to this day in many parts of the world, and among many that quote scriptures for nefarious ends.  Just as Hitler spoke of racial purity justifying death and destruction, so people speak of religious purity as a justification of death and destruction.  Same thing from the same type of minds.

In essense, Hitler found good scapegoats to blame for the problems of a desperate nation in order to exploit people.  People continue in this horrid tradition to this day. It is indeed easier to blame others for what one is in part responsible for, but this doesn't make it true or rational in the least.  

 

 

Sat, 09/10/2011 - 12:54 | 1654543 ninja-ish
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the facts are that then and now international bankers continue to rape the global economy, by their own admission. if you deny this, bring your proof because I definitely have mine. you never even referenced any part of his speech to show where you disagreed with him. maybe because you didn't read it.

 

i don't care about his father or his supposed self-loathing, so you need to just stay on topic buddy and stop trying to change the subject. the Jews quote scripture to claim they have a right to slaughter Palestinians for their land. i don't see you complaining about that. and i'm not advocating any type of purity, racial or religious. i'm identifying civilizations and centers of power. gotta problem with it? go see a shrink.

 

it's very convenient for criminals to rebrand themselves as scapegoats after the fact of their pillaging of civilizations, but the truth is that international banks do take down economies through hostile means. period. blaming the middle class, who actually always lose all their wealth during these economic collapses is a filthy trick of the devilish, predatory, elite bankers and their propaganda-pushing supporters.

Sat, 09/10/2011 - 13:50 | 1654612 jm
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International as well as other bankers offer credit to businesses and households.  Sometimes they make poor choices regarding the credit profile of their debtors, just as debtors sometimes overextend in taking this credit.  There is a correlation that strengthens as debtors cannot support their payments, making the problem more severe.  Banks in response tighten credit and credit lines as well as tighten underwriting standards, making it harder for people that need credit to get credit.  People that don't need credit don't want it.  This makes debtors pissed, and creditors demand full payment.

Both sides are being unreasonable in this situation. Principle needs to be reduced or term extended to make the debt serviceable.  Debtors need to make sacrifices in their lifestyle.  There should be no such things as a free lunch.  Unfortuneately, there are plenty of bailouts for banks, businesses and households that interferes with this natural process and screws things up.  This is where politics meets the natural order of things.

Comment c'est.  There is nothing Jewish or conspiratorial about it, it is a law of the jungle in the world of finance.  If all the banks of the world vanished overnight, the replacements would work in exactly the same way.  Even so-called "Islamic banks" extent credit and loans, dolled up in technical jargon to satisfy extreme views. 

Even Al-Azhar is cool with loans. 

Edit:  http://www.ruf.rice.edu/~elgamal/files/interest.pdf which has the fatwa in Arabic on page 29.

 

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If a Jew is using scriptures as justification to kill Palestinians then they are wrong to do so.  They should choose life so that they might live in peace, and treat all others well and with respect.  Just as all should.  One side or the other in Palestine (and elsewhere) has to have the strength to break the cycle of revenge and do good to the other side, if only for their own good. 

Civilizations are nothing more or less than a group of people and their collective memories and routines.  Outside of particulars, civilizations operate in the same way all over the world.  There is no reason to think that they cannot coexist and even thrive in peace.  Jews and Muslims once did when Europeans were less enlightened.  It can happen again.  Regarding centers of power, they are fleeting and shift like water. This is the nature of the world, and there is little to do about it other than minimize such influence in one's life.  "Attacking" and investing hatred or any type of energy into such ephemeral shadows is useless.   

The third part is just emotional fanaticism, so it's not worth discussing.

Sat, 09/10/2011 - 14:20 | 1654705 ninja-ish
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just like i thought. no proof whatsoever. it's cute how you attempted to paint international finance as so nice and innocent, but as i said, by the admission of the bankers themselves it is anything but.

 

let's start with Greenspan: http://www.321gold.com/fed/greenspan/1966.html

 

and let's also include Stiglitz: http://www.gregpalast.com/the-globalizer-who-came-in-from-the-cold/

 

I'm sure you're going to call these Jewish economists self-loathing anti-Semites for simply pointing out the obvious exploitation of the poor and unsuspecting middle class, aren't you? the truth is, these aren't just "poor choices" being made by banks. this is economic rape, which has also been thoroughly exposed by Taibbi: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/is-the-sec-covering-up-wall-st...

 

the fallacy in your argument stems from your failure to define the true essence of "credit". what is the function of extending credit to someone? it gives the lender risk-free profit by transferring all the business risk onto the shoulders of the working class donkeys. in a captured fiat economy, it's virtually impossible to escape inflation and lending. and with the Fed's funny money tricks, it's equally impossible to escape the vicious wrath of their orchestrated Wall Street booms and busts. which is why "the rich get richer, and the poor get poorer." risk-free profits mean no losses. banks win. we lose. pay me money, or i'll take your collateral. game over.

 

so I'm sorry pal, because there is something at least partially "Jewish" and conspiratorial about it. it's the same story over and over again in every country. Germany, Argentina, and now America. whenever there's a bank bailout or hyperinflation, or any other sudden impoverishment of the masses, you better believe that their loss has been someone else's gain. and that someone is the international bankers.

 

and no, if the banks vanished it wouldn't be the same, if you eliminated the essential characteristics of banks: fiat money, lending on interest, and third-party transactions with corrupt middle-man institutions.

 

gold, bitchez.

 

as for "Islamic banks", it's a misnomer. what you have is "apparent" Muslims working in banks which are actually backed and owned by Europeans. and if you know anything about Muslim countries, you know that all their institutions are corrupt, and so are their leaders. Islam clearly forbids usury, so apparently Azhar has also been corrupted. but that's not surprising: Western-backed dictators are in control of virtually the entire Muslim world today, who happen to be financed by lots of Islamically-illegal credit-based American money. if you look into history, there were never any "Islamic banks" in the Muslim world that were "cool with loans." This is a modern, non-Islamic, financial innovation. Islamic economics originated with gold, silver, and commodity based money and hand-to-hand transactions and was totally free from usury. it represented what was probably the last free and fair market on earth.

 

now, you're just a person with no references spouting inchorent ideas and quasi-plausible opinions with no actual facts to back them up. there has never been anything in history to match modern Western civilization. you forget to mention that Jews and Muslims lived in peace before Europe became a superpower, back when Muslims were in power. then Europe launched the Crusades and here we are today. i haven't "attacked" anyone, and your refusal to admit this and continue with this ridiculous accusation is actually itself an attack.

 

now, i'll leave it for the reader to check out my links and tell me whether or not it's "just emotional fanaticism". like i said, i brought my proof. where's yours? it's not a coincidence that you don't want to discuss it, because you know you have nothing to stand on. i've identified the crime of the modern international financial system. and you're just attempting to spray potpurri on dog shit. good luck with that one.

Sat, 09/10/2011 - 14:54 | 1654799 jm
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Nowhere do I say that I agree with Greenspan or Stiglitz or the typicalu economic theories.  But there are tens of thousands of economists around the world that are not Jewish.  Central bankers print; most central bankers in the world are not Jewish but they print all the same. 

Banks received hand-outs and preferential treatment by virtue of being banks, not because they are run by Jews.  The majority of banks in this world are not run by Jews.  They received this treatment because banks, particularly dealers and prime brokers, comprise the spinal cord of the global financial system.  If this is a central bank, this is the fulcrum point of any possible monetary intervention as they extend credit and warehouse securities of all stripe.  that said, there have been wefare checks going out for decades to households, and permission for corporations to cheat on their taxes for nearly the same amount of time, so bailing out banks is really just an extension of existing policies of preserving ther status quo for eveybody, thanks to the credit card China and Japan foots us called the 1month t-bill. 

Rape is a sexual crime.  To compare financial hardship and economic crisis to rape is incorrect.  Everyone (except children) had a part in this disater, and there is no point in pretending to be innocent and violated if one took out a loan that they can't repay, or lost money in a 401k.  Or the eocnomic downturn has hurt them, though I am sympathetic to these challenges.

I know little about Islam except from what limited experience that I have with Muslims.  Even those with extreme views are mild in personality, which is admirable.  Most that I know are reasonable people that see the hypocrisy of Middle Eastern societies and speak of this once trust has been gained.  They know that using some fake traditions like hadith or Talmud to orgainze society is a dead end.  There are unsavory others that are kind of like the Democrat/Republican devotees that think God is on their side and everyone else is going to hell for disagreeing.  But they are also extremely conservative and slow-moving with respect to change, even as global influences destabilize the region in ways that are yet to unfold.

As for the rest, there's not much to address, as it is a personal opinion which you are entiled to.  Your factual basis is easily refuted.

Sat, 09/10/2011 - 14:17 | 1654735 jm
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I can't edit this post, so I'll add one thing about Hitler "supposed" self-loathing.  The idea of a man that was part Jewish engaging in killing Jew simply because they are Jews implies self-loathing.  Also, it is documented that one of Hitler's kinks was to shit and pissed on.  Sorry kids, but this Hitler business needs to be shut down.

http://www.stumblerz.com/7-peculiar-facts-about-hitler/

 

Sat, 09/10/2011 - 14:21 | 1654741 ninja-ish
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irrelevant, bitchez.

Sat, 09/10/2011 - 14:47 | 1654807 jm
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It's not irrelevant.  It points to a deep-seated psychosis in a murderer that so many fools idolize.

Sat, 09/10/2011 - 14:57 | 1654829 ninja-ish
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irrelevant to the topic at hand. besides, i don't think anyone here idolizes hitler.

Sat, 09/10/2011 - 15:03 | 1654838 jm
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You must be new here.  LOL

Sat, 09/10/2011 - 15:59 | 1654937 ninja-ish
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actually, i'm not new here. but anyone who does idolize Hitler can speak for themselves. as for me, i could care less if a person follows the Jewish religion. but what I won't tolerate is the exploitation of these bankers and the oppression of the Zionsits.

Sat, 09/10/2011 - 16:15 | 1654969 jm
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Good luck to you.  While we do not agree on a basic level, we can agree to work towards dispelling the illusions and propaganda that politicians, opportunists and fools vomit out on a daily basis and finding the truth through observation and  logic.

Fri, 09/09/2011 - 19:59 | 1652959 no2foreclosures
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History is interesting to say the least.  Real history is very rare.

Hitler and the Nazis engineered the miraculous recovery of Germany, out of the Great Depression long before the U.S. and the U.K., from 1934 through 1939 (viz., the autobahn highway system among many accomplishments) without the use of a single ounce of gold (the Treaty of Versailles pretty much left Germany financially destitute).  They issued their own currency in the form of government bonds specifically for public works projects and then retired the bonds when the public works were completed.  This way they ensured none of the hyperinflation they had just experienced.  It was probably because they opted out of the Anglo-American debt-based monetary sustem that probably let Winston Churchill to make the following pronouncement which is rarely heard in the Western lamestream media:

"You must understand that this war is not against Hitler or National Socialism, but against the strength of the German people, which is to be smashed once and for all, regardless whether it is in the hands of Hitler or a Jesuit priest." (Emrys Hughes, Winston Churchill, His Career in War and Peace p. 145)

Sorry, Tyler.

Fri, 09/09/2011 - 20:11 | 1653004 Id fight Gandhi
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The Jews sold out Germany in wwi, and they got a raw deal with the treaty of Versailles which is why they were on the outs with the nazis during WWII.

Fri, 09/09/2011 - 20:16 | 1653013 no2foreclosures
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No only that, the World Jewry (no Israeli state back then) declared (economic) war on Germany in 1933!

Fri, 09/09/2011 - 21:50 | 1653236 Mactheknife
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Churchill warned Chamberlain that if he made the Germans sign that treaty that "We will be fighting them again". 

Sat, 09/10/2011 - 11:10 | 1654344 jm
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Jews fought in the German army in WWI with distinction.

Ernst Junger, the most renouned WWI veteran, broke with the National Socialists because of his respect for the German veterans of WWI that had Judaisim as a heritage.

Fri, 09/09/2011 - 20:30 | 1653036 JR
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England was poised to lose her empire to Germany and, hence, Churchill’s aggressive stance as Lord of the Admiralty prior to WW I urging every offensive action available against the German nation.  Prior to WW II, his aggressiveness became an obsession and when war came he made himself the only choice as a leader and refused peace negotiations with Hitler.

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