"I'm Bill Gross And I Endorse Ron Paul For President"
As a follow up to today's must read letter from Bill Gross, the PIMCO head explains what was the thinking behind the conclusion that is slowly leading him to become a gold bug, the potentially erroneous assumption that the Fed can not drop rates below zero (not if Goldman and JPM have their way), why Bernanke has no choice but to write checks when the Twist ends in June which will lead to bond buying for the next 12-24-36 months. Nothing new. What is new, and absolutely stunning, is Gross' endorsement for president: 'I'm a little Ron Paulish." (6'24" into the clip)... That's right. The bond king endorses Ron Paul for president, apparently on the realization that very soon he will have to pay Tim Geithner for the privilege of holding hundreds of billions in US paper. And now we've heard it all.
And with that statement, can we assume that all the cash that Gross donated to Barack Obama (see below) will flow toward "Ron Paul-ish" this time around?
Source: Exercises In Supreme Hypocrisy: Bill Gross Edition
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I guess he needs all the help he can get after getting 7% in the Medicare state.
Bill - Take two aspirin and you'll feel better in the morning.
GOT GOLD??????????????/
he just heard about NEGATIVE INTEREST RATE BONDS today and he's fucking tired of keeping his mouth shut about politics. I admire the guy. Enough is enough
I KNEW it. Bill Gross is now officially discredited as a financial professional. Ron Paul is a known hack who garners the support of conspiracy theorists, confederate racists and other radical extremists. Mr Paul has already been totally exposed by the media for his insane policies such as:
Needless to say, this association will seriously damage Mr. Gross’ reputation, which serves him right for betting against American debt, and selling out his own country.
Ron Paul and GOLD, What More Do You Want/Need ???
Million Dollar, you must thrive Orgasm on NEGATIVE VOTES ...
he keeps us "fair and balanced" lol great sarcasm
I Guess "Million Doller" is voting for that Used-Car-Salesman-Lookalike Nitt Ronney...
I betcha Million Dollar Boner and Hamy Wanger meatball each other as they type up troll posts on ZH. They're always referencing Ivy League professionals and keep using words like democracy all the time.
'I'm a little Ron Paulish." 6'24"
Doesn't that make little Ron Paul 8 feet tall?
I find Gross' new-found Ron Paulishness grossly insulting to my intelligence which is being grossly underestimated by Gross.
For even DARING to mention "He Who Shall Not Be Named" (for his love of that diabolical yellow metal that earns no interest and that can't be eaten), much less without including several gratuitous and graphic references to anal rape:
I BAN YOU!!!
"Million Doller" Is gonna EARN a Big Bonus today for the HIGH Negative votes he scored here on ZH ...
Yawn -- These comments get very dull to read when it's all response to idiot who is definitely *not* clever enough to be a writer for the Daily Show.
On other more important news. Anyone see that Pay Pal co founder gives Ron Paul a million. I'm buy more shit from Pay Pal. Thiel statment of support is great and ignored my lame media, of course.
"Harmon said in a statement to TheDC that ”Peter Thiel could see Mark Zuckerberg’s vision of Facebook before anyone else understood it. Peter knew that Facebook was the future and he was the first investor. I think Peter can see that Ron Paul is the future of the Republican Party.”
“While Romney and Gingrich are out pandering to voters over the age of 50, Ron Paul is winning over the youth vote, independents, Democrats, and ethnic groups — all of the demographics the GOP has struggled with for years,” said Harmon."
Ron Paul Revolution
mdb- love you bro. never change. stay black, mdb.
Hysterical that these guys can't spot satire even when is smacks em right in the kisser!
Well we won't see Gross on CNBS until after the convention, he'll get the Schiff treatment (a Ron Paul adviser).
BTW has anyone noticed that the talking heads now refer to "which of the three" or "the three potential candidates". The "one who cannot be spoken of" has "dropped out" of the race as far as FOX is concerned. Once and awhile CNN mentions him, but even their hope that he runs as a third party candidate is fading.
To add insult to injury, Republican Establishment Excludes Ron Paul From 2012 CPAC Event
We are doomed, buy more long term storage food.
That's what I thought when I first read him, thinking; "Nobody can still be that flaming dumb!" but then I see the results of various primaries and my doubts are cast aside. Yup. he's that dumb. It ain't funny anymore.
It's not satire when that's all you ever post.
Exactly the point that I have tried to make many times as well.
I think those bastards just suck --- there are enough REAL trolls out there without their dishonest contributions (if that is what they are).
"I'm buy more shit from Pay Pal. "
Paypal was instrumental in breaking wikileaks. They can go fuck themselves.
Doesn't that make little Ron Paul 8 feet tall?
God that was funny - who in the "h" "e" double tooth picks junked that?
Probably the very same humourless person who junked yours? Go figure. Some people just don't have a sense of humour. Sad.
Laugh it up, brah! The junks are a joke!
I junked it.. after I scrolled down and saw they were complaining about junks.. :)
Anyway,, Bill Gross should be screaming Ron Paul and Actually contributing.. He's short treasuries right? We all know RP would stop letting the FED keep intrest rates down.. This position was fairly predictable..
same here, bitchez
I think the 24" is the girth.
MDB got his game face back...keep up the mediocre work
Is Trillion(Zimbabwe)DollarAnus a troll, a parody of a troll, or a parody of a parody of a troll? Or has his meta-trollness finally become so tightly wound that he has sprung off into some unfathomable higher dimension of trolldom, of which all that we can see in our dimension is an incomplete and misleading intersection of his hypertroll existence with our own normal ZH spatial realm?
he's just a resident pejorative troll hoping for multi dimensionality
CNBC and all of TV is such shit for morons. All of TV is shilling and bowing to the Democrat's Muslim. TOTUS Allah. Gross is a tool for donating to the islamic.
I used to have more respect for him.
For the umpteenth time Freddie spouts the Obama is a Muslim idiocy:
Jezus Kee-rist on a cracker! Freddie I'll copy and paste my response to DosZap on another page here, just for you:
DosZap burbled: "WHY does he kiss rad Islams ass, and slap the Izzys?."
Really?
quote from:
Obama for President of Israel? | My Catbird Seat
Did Abner Mikva say that O-blah-ma would become known as the first Muslim President?
quote from: http://www.chicagojewishnews.com/story.htm?sid=212226&id=252218
Were O-blah-ma's early major financial backers(Lester Crown, Penny Pritzker), in his rise to prominence, Muslims?
see:
Mr. Obama's neighborhood
http://www.jpost.com/Magazine/Features/Article.aspx?id=118057
Is Obama's chief advisor(David Axelrod) a Muslim?
quote from: The Axelrod Factor
For extra trivia points, prior to becoming President did Obama live right across the street from Chicago's oldest mosque?
see: Obama Chicago Mansion Birdseye - Cryptome
Thanks for playing Are You Dumber Than Someone Who Still Thinks Obama Is A Muslim
p.s. DosZap, are you also known here as "Freddie?"
end quoted earlier reply
I should have added were Obama's first and current Chief Of Whitehouse Staff Muslims?
But fucking hell man, if Obama is a true blue Muslim, he sure keeps strange company don't you think?
What Obama really is, is a front-man and a puppet. But he is able to appear as being someone for anyone depending on where he's at and who he's talking to. Able to give flowery speeches(with the aid of a teleprompter) that are meaningless. Have you not noticed that his actions don't match his words?
He is also a "Cult of Personality" as created by TPTB:
Living Colour - Cult Of Personalityhttp://youtu.be/kX2D9qszF3E
I knew Gross was a closet ZH-er. I'll ask again, which Avatar is he?
Hey, Bill, condolences on your brother in law and congrats on the granddaughter.
I am Bill Gross --- and given my avatar, isn't it obvious?
I'm Sparticus.
No, I am Spartacus!
Some people are still taking this guy seriously. All us crazy conspiracy theorists will be the ones holding the gold when the rerack comes around. Best of luck to the suckers voting for OBromney.
So you are still in favor of facism, kleptocracy, and the continued destruction of fiat capital via the mis-allocation of the primary dealers and the Fed's ZIRP? Good for you, and my PMs thank you.
I KNEW IT! you do write for Jon Stewart!
I want an economy managed by EXPERTS, and I want the government to take a strong stance on drugs, terrorism and poverty. Ron Paul is a threat to the American way of life, and somebody has to tell the truth about his policies.
Obama/Biden 2012!! Vote for REAL freedom and liberty.
mdb now you're just being plain silly
No He's not.. He's one of the true visionaries on this rag of a blog. We have got to get back to true American values and RP is definitely not that. We need a strong military presence the world over, and that making all the drugs legal, well. . . . that can only lead to slovenliness and even more unemployment. We also need a strong government to get through the coming hard times, to keep the populace in line, as crime and rebelliousness go on the rise. Someone like Romney, who can create jobs, and knows how to straighten out the economy. He's the man for the job.
Could this be a hint of a Gross-Paul or Paul-Gross ticket? Either way it sounds kinda gross.
@Transformer-"We also need a strong government...to keep the populace in line..."
Why are you trolling here? Go over to the fucking HuffPo if you want to act like a dipshit.
Well. . . . you definitely need someone to keep your urges in line. Just look at you!!! Has your mother seen you looking like this?
Last time someone was in favor of "experts", Swastikas were all the rage!
Transformer
you need a white five gallon hat,a bible and some buttless chaps, get on yer soap box an' praise the lord brotha!
/sarc for morts button on
"We have got to get back to true American values and RP is definitely not that."
Really? I believe the concept of a Federal government with SPECIFIC and LIMITED powers ENUMERATED by the Constitution is
the true American value the country was founded upon.....
Let me guess, instead by true american values you mean the MIC that Eisenhower warned against??
"We need a strong military presence the world over,"
- "Peace, commerce and honest friendship with all nations; entangling alliances with none." - -- Thomas Jefferson
"and that making all the drugs legal, well. . . . that can only lead to slovenliness and even more unemployment."
oooh imagine americans free to make POOR choices! Egads! the horrors of freedom. People might destroy their lives with weed instead of the societal approved method of alcoholism!!!
"We also need a strong government to get through the coming hard times, to keep the populace in line, as crime and rebelliousness go on the rise."
Seems to me Germany tried that after WWI . Had a very popular guy elected to fix the economy, put people back to work and found a scapegoat to blame the problems on. worked out really great in the end.
Now everyone sing!
"America, America uber alles..."
You must be a "step-down" transformer.
Just in case you're not a troll MDB, I will direct you to a perfect example of an economy managed by EXPERTS which also incidentally had a strong stance on drugs, terrorism and poverty. A technocrat named Albert Speer put it together in the mid-1940s and it actually increased industrial output (read that as "real growth") in the middle of a massive manpower shortage and as the target of the worlds largest carpet bombing initiative.
A bald guy named Mao tried pretty much the same thing but without as much success, which goes to show that you have to be really picky about your choice of prime totalitarian.
You want an economy managed by experts? Try the Soviet Union. Oh wait.
go lay on a knife
On a freeway.
Under a truck.
You cutting and pasting from DemocraticUnderground, er... make that FreeRepublic again?
Oh yeah, that's really great stuff, that American debt. Good as gold.
The US government is selling oregano as weed?
You calling anyone a "known hack"....oh that's rich.
LMFAO!!
Long live American Debt!
Long Live Usery!!
Jesus would be so Proud of us ALL!
@Million dollar-
How the fuck did you get any upvotes saying, what very well could be, the single dumbest comment ever on ZH?
She is at work and voted on 10 different machines.
I gave him a green for "most improved sarcastic wit"
Sorry bout the misunderstanding...
I wholly endorse this non-dumb comment
Poe's Law states:[1]
“ Without a winking smiley or other blatant display of humor, it is impossible to create a parody of Fundamentalism that SOMEONE won't mistake for the real thing. ”
Sadly, this is so spot on modern day "enlightened political thought" that many take it seriously.
One day we'll look back and laugh.
Dude, we're trying to keep it unsophisticated this afternoon...
The pony-tails are giving me bad thoughts.
Troll attack!!!
MDB has got to be a joke - nobody is that dumb. I get a good laugh everytime the pie hole opens
Small phone screen led to pushing up by mistake? No other way to explain MDB thumb up.
Come on, dude, it's fucking funny. It's obvious sarcasm, and I thought this installment was better than most.
What freedom do you mean, exactly seer?
You've convinced me to vote for RP....
OK MDB, now can you prove you're not a stooge paid for by the 1% to plant disinformation on the internet? Because you cetainly post like one.
In my opinion this just proves that Bill Gross is able to see the wood for the trees and endorse a candidate that might. actually. do. something. for. a. change.
1. Obviously the war on terorism has been such a HUGE success in creating peace and tranquility round the world.
2. The War on Drugs. Ditto.
3. Auditing the Fed MIGHT lead to political meddling, but it is still better than the alternative of a private insitution making decisions beyond the reach of oversight BY THE PEOPLE.
Bill Gross and Ron Paul seem to be the only people who AREN'T selling out their country.
Oh, pardon me since I gave up my own million dollar bonus trading fixed income I must have become a radical racist conspiracy theorist.
Monkey.
Both MDB and HamyWanger have broken character several times. They're one of us, and not stooges, just providers of extremely dry sarcasm.
If you say so SEEK.
Drier than one of Bond's Martinis.
Links? The problem is they mix in a bit of truth (conspiracies etc), so it's hard to tell whether it's really sarcasm. Even then the conspiracy stuff is just a result of the Libertarian strategy of gathering as many supporters on single concrete issues as possible (end the Fed, drug wars, etc) no matter who or why they support those policies. On this point I prefer the Objectivist policy of staying away from such alliances.
It's definitely all sarcasm, but I don't find Hamy's stuff funny; MDB, however, splits my sides--not always, but today, yes.
ALso Ron Paul supporters will only vote for Ron Paul. So if you don't want Obama then pay attention.
http://www.freemarketfan.com/2012/02/there-is-no-such-thing-as-former-ron.html
Apologies. Double post
I must admit I'm not a huge Ron Paul fan but these three things are among the best of his policies, IMO.
And why aren't you a huge Ron Paul fan???
most likely waiting to see who el-arian likes, first
Robo--"And why aren't you a huge Ron Paul fan???"
Isn't it obvious. RP is going to end everything that is good and wholesome about America. He will cut our military abroad down to nothing!! Who will spread democracy then? He will cut actual spending by the federal government!! This will really hurt the economy, now is not the time to cut back. He will make drugs legal!!! Your sons and daughters will be smoking devil weed everywhere with a huge rise in crime and teen pregnancy.
Don't you get it? More freedom is not what we need. We need more control. What with the economy and all, crime and rebellion are going to be on the rise and the government must protect us.
Jeeez.
AND, we found out where The Bernank's leeches went that Rick was asking about.
They've transformed Transformer's cranial cavity into a salad bowl.
At least Bill Gross isn't afraid to step out of the lemming herd. He should be a little "Ron Paulish", Ron Paul is the only true man still running!
http://ericsprott.blogspot.com/
And he likes Ron Paul despite the fact that, as Santellli points out at the end of the video, FED policy will hugely benefit firms like PIMCO and people llike Gross. Easy to be noble when you're worth a cool billion, but at least he is getiing it right.
How does ZIRP and QE benefit bond funds again? Let's not even talk about real returns, even nominally what is the average yield across all maturities? 2.5 percent?
the captain is way too kinky to quote santelli and know wtf he means, too
listen, matt: is santelli kinky to you?
and don't piss him off, he hasn't had a lick of strange since breakfast!
if you understand, grasshopper, you may have command potential...
L0L!!! you don't need to get too negative here!
i don't know what santelli means or the captain, either! rilly!
maybe the smarty will enlighten us all, here, instead of just junking?
hey! maybe the junker knows the thinking behind the paul bill too! the one about the "FED's" 1.6 $Tril that drPaul "introduced" right after the "ceiling" votes in early august, last year?
the legislation: what's the thinking and legal/economic argument(s) there? i've asked about a half-dozen times now, on rPaul strings, and nobody ever tells me what their candidate is thinking and doing, here...
,,,i wonder why...
maybe i can help! what does the US Constitution say about fiat currency as "legal tender"? the FederalReserveBank? and what does this new paul 'law' say about the "debt" held by them? anybody?
no hurry, we've got practically the whole year, here, or at least a few months till the Convention and Candidate, and it's only been 6 months, so far, since the Bill was introduced and all zH ronPaul fans have refused to say one word about it. one word...
...except for...slewie?
no wonder this poor, old gyno isn't doing better! what is your candidate's purpose and strategy in introducing this "law" immediately the debt ceiling was raised?
anybody...? drPaul? do you know, uh, reverendHolyElectedRep-turned-prez-candidate?? oh, puleeeease tell us, massah or acolytes! we needs to know!
you see, i think we know too little about these "bills" and these "deals" and "moves". i'm sure this isn't something he would do so someone would write him a check, but what is he doing? and why?
as ORI might say: ...anyone...?
or have many of his supporters lost the...ability to think for...themselves...? about...rPaul4prez...?
...anyone...?
if you can't answer a relatively simple question or two about your candidate and what he is doing and why, how can you help him win?
roasting marshmallows and tossing them to him?
why did he introduce this Bill as a presidential candidate, what are its implications for the nation and for his candidacy?
...anybody...? drPaul?
if you don't know, and you can't find out, and you can't understand him, is that hard to talk about, sometimes...?
go ahead and junk me, but maybe just one little link explaining this?
i'll be around... take another 60-90 daze if ya need it, ok? you, too, tyler!
thank you in advance, btw!