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"An Inconvenient Tax"

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With April 15 rapidly approaching, it is time to start thinking taxes once again. Yet do people actually stop to think about what the US tax system really is? And, as shown yesterday, does it even matter any more? After all as was just demonstrated based on cold, hard numbers, the US government has in fiscal 2012 funded deficit spending with 15% more debt (which will sooner or later be monetized by the Fed, as China just sold $100 billion TSYs in December in a harbinger of things to come) than with net tax revenues: should it not just drop the pretense of taxes altogether and fund the entire deficit with debt? After all it is not like it will slow down debt issuance any time in the next 4 years (when it will have $24.1 trillion in debt). For a 90 minute review of all that we take for granted as we sit down with our tax accountants, or with that copy of TurboTax (and in the case of Tim Geithner, push F1 repeatedly), various economists, politicians and industrialists weigh in on the U.S. income tax system in this hour and a half documentary showing how the tax code has grown and changed in response to military conflicts, economic changes and an ever-evolving political climate.

 


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Sun, 03/04/2012 - 19:35 | Link to Comment knukles
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Sherman:  Gee whiz, Mr. Peabody, if we don't have a budget how can we have a deficit?
Mr. Peabody:  Shut the fuck up, Sherman.

Sun, 03/04/2012 - 20:06 | Link to Comment nmewn
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Time for the wayback machine and Commander McBragg...lol.

McBragg: There! Washington DC, the US Senate December 23, 1913. Did I ever tell you about my brush with NY banker assassins holding a third of the assembly hostage?

Friend: No Ccommander, but I really must be...

McBragg (grabbing him by the shoulder): It was bitterly cold that evening and the day before Christmas Eve, when the peoples attention was turned to celebration & merriment. I had just completed my mission to recover the crown jewels of Freedonia when I came upon a sight engraved in my memory forever...

Sun, 03/04/2012 - 21:49 | Link to Comment Michael
Sun, 03/04/2012 - 22:31 | Link to Comment allseo
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Sun, 03/04/2012 - 23:34 | Link to Comment UP Forester
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But, does it work on Windows ME?

Sun, 03/04/2012 - 16:32 | Link to Comment Sudden Debt
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On a long enough timeline, taxes will pop up to 100% of your paycheck

Sun, 03/04/2012 - 16:36 | Link to Comment cherry picker
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Because we were fools to allow big bro to put his hands in our wallets by making businesses tax collectors first before paying us which is rigtfully ours

Sun, 03/04/2012 - 16:42 | Link to Comment Conrad Murray
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Yes. Taxes, if they are going to exist and be paid, should have to be paid by each individual twice per month out of his or her own pocket/account.

Sales taxes should be the same too.

Example: You go to the store and buy a pack of cigarettes. You first hand over your $1 for the smokes, then hand over the other $6 to the tax men next to the cashier.

Sun, 03/04/2012 - 16:45 | Link to Comment Sudden Debt
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I think that guy next to the cashier was a robber and You should have called the cops....
But I think I got your point.

Sun, 03/04/2012 - 18:17 | Link to Comment Fluffybunny
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Film not available outside of the US.

Q_Q

Sun, 03/04/2012 - 16:57 | Link to Comment ISEEIT
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I love you. Brilliant idea.

Now I need to go vomit. Satan is running ads just to my left. Satan is actually bringing the daughters into it.

How fucking vile.

Sun, 03/04/2012 - 17:34 | Link to Comment RSloane
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Ahh so it wasn't a nightmare....

Sun, 03/04/2012 - 17:46 | Link to Comment ZackLo
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It's OK guys, there is a tax bomb at the end of the year as everyone has pointed out that is going to cause a one time wave of tax selling that will bump up tax revenues going into the end of the year, all is fine don't worry move along.

Sun, 03/04/2012 - 19:28 | Link to Comment Don Birnam
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Conrad, not even bi-monthly.

How to impress upon the populace quite how much the central government takes from them ? Merely eliminate all withholding taxes. Then, come every 15 April, when a bill is due for, say, $15,000 in income taxes, perhaps the thought will finally permeate that heretofore impermeable membrane colloquially known as the thick skull, that "big government" costs.

Dearly.

Mon, 03/05/2012 - 09:26 | Link to Comment GMadScientist
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"...then hand over the other $6 to the tax men next to the cashier."

You could try a more efficient means of suicide than smoking cigs.

Sun, 03/04/2012 - 18:14 | Link to Comment Marco
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Funny that ... on a long enough timeline government subsidies will prop up to 100% of your paycheck as well.

Sun, 03/04/2012 - 18:26 | Link to Comment sessinpo
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On a long enough timeline, the survival rate of everyone drops to zero, including governments

Sun, 03/04/2012 - 18:34 | Link to Comment Silver Bug
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You've got to feed the beast. The government has become horribly corrupt.

 

http://davidmorganblog.blogspot.com/

Sun, 03/04/2012 - 19:19 | Link to Comment brettd
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Taxes on your paycheck is just the start.

Wait till they confiscate your stocks/bonds/cars/house.

See:  Castro; Mugabe; Chavez et al.

Sun, 03/04/2012 - 21:44 | Link to Comment A Nanny Moose
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I wil have Gone Galt long before then.

Mon, 03/05/2012 - 09:27 | Link to Comment GMadScientist
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Will anyone notice beyond the occasional sigh of relief?

Sun, 03/04/2012 - 16:32 | Link to Comment Ima anal sphincter
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Legalized theft. In one form or another, more than 50% of MY hard work is stolen from me. Total BS.

Sun, 03/04/2012 - 16:39 | Link to Comment dark pools of soros
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but your money going to fund birth control is doing God's Work

Sun, 03/04/2012 - 17:02 | Link to Comment Dave Thomas
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But who's birth is it controlling?

Sun, 03/04/2012 - 17:15 | Link to Comment Gully Foyle
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"But who's birth is it controlling?"

Whitey's

Sun, 03/04/2012 - 17:30 | Link to Comment GeorgeHayduke
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And God's work of funding more wars against Islamic people, keeping the CIA's opium crop safe, and other such "God's Work" types of projects.

That old god is a tricky dude. Killing is evil, unless he tells you to do the killing. Then it's righteous. The only propblem is, only you hear god give the kill order which kind of strange considering the omnipotence and all-mighty labels his followers give him.

Sun, 03/04/2012 - 19:14 | Link to Comment nmewn
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"but your money going to fund birth control is doing God's Work"

Ya know, I've been thinkin about gettin a penal implant (not that I need it) but I'm just thinkin about all the good works I could do with it...even when I'm asleep.

The major stumbling block I have is this...I don't want to pay for it.

Sun, 03/04/2012 - 20:32 | Link to Comment CrockettAlmanac.com
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No, you can't pay for it and your dilemma is another aspect of the war on men's health. Some of the other students are very depressed about this...

Sun, 03/04/2012 - 21:12 | Link to Comment nmewn
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As well they should be...it's obvious male member discrimination.

I have a right to life, liberty and pursuit of happiness and everyone but me needs to pay for my enjoyment of it ;-)

Mon, 03/05/2012 - 01:10 | Link to Comment Ms. Erable
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So... you want to be a publicly-funded porn star? Maybe you could slide that in as part of a grant request from the NEA under the category of 'performance art'.

Mon, 03/05/2012 - 07:46 | Link to Comment nmewn
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Nana said I have a "right" to pursue my dreams at everyone elses expense...I'm now asserting my newly created "rights".

Pay up ;-)

Sun, 03/04/2012 - 16:37 | Link to Comment Conrad Murray
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When April 15th rolls around, keep your hard earned money and, instead, send them a copy of goatse or lemonparty.

Fuck it. Anybody have some fax numbers for the IRS? I feel like sending them a few early.

Sun, 03/04/2012 - 16:50 | Link to Comment GeneMarchbanks
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Fax 'em good, Conrad.

Meanwhile the sleeples are on automatic. Hey, pal, might that check you're shipping off thoughtlessly go toward dubious usage?

Errr, like what exactly?

Sun, 03/04/2012 - 17:05 | Link to Comment Dave Thomas
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Most sheeples love April 15th cause they get FREE MONEY FROM THE GOVERNMENT! WHOOPEE!

I think the IRS urges most HR/Payroll offices to increase withholding to something larger than squeaky just so many millions of merikans get "FREE MONEY FROM THE GOVERNMENT WHOOPEE!"

If withholding was abolished, and everyone had to cut a check on April 15th, there'd be torches and pitchforks at 1600 Pennsylvania avenue.

Sun, 03/04/2012 - 17:28 | Link to Comment valley chick
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Just got my tax shit back today from the accountant.  All I can say is fuck the IRS.  Yes ...not just bad but real hurting bad...some damn freeloader will enjoy the $$$$$$$$.

Sun, 03/04/2012 - 18:28 | Link to Comment AgShaman
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"Gunga.....Gunga La Gunga"

Sun, 03/04/2012 - 22:09 | Link to Comment UP Forester
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At least you've got that goin' for ya....

Sun, 03/04/2012 - 18:44 | Link to Comment sun tzu
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Doing your patriotic duty

Sun, 03/04/2012 - 19:17 | Link to Comment valley chick
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Damn if we had kept the business open and damned that we closed it.  Screwed either way and did not enjoy it.  :(

Sun, 03/04/2012 - 20:34 | Link to Comment CrockettAlmanac.com
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Hey chick, your valley isn't called Galt's Gulch by any chance, is it?

Mon, 03/05/2012 - 07:26 | Link to Comment valley chick
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Wish it was.  :)

Sun, 03/04/2012 - 16:55 | Link to Comment nmewn
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Why not...that's what Warren does.

Sun, 03/04/2012 - 16:33 | Link to Comment bugs_
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biggest single reform to make to American governance?

move election day to April 16.  it is at the opposite side of the year for a reason.

Sun, 03/04/2012 - 16:47 | Link to Comment Jayda1850
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indentured servitude refers to the historical practice of contracting to work for a fixed period of time in exchange for transportation, food, clothing, lodging and other necessities during the term of indenture.   Wikipedia-

Say the average tax rate is 25%. So for three months out of the year I work wholly and solefully for the government. How is this any different from indetured servitude? 

 

Sun, 03/04/2012 - 16:48 | Link to Comment Cheesy Bastard
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It is different because indentured servitude ends.

Sun, 03/04/2012 - 16:57 | Link to Comment francis_sawyer
Sun, 03/04/2012 - 20:33 | Link to Comment Bicycle Repairman
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Hey, didn't those guys do "Bomb Iran?"

Sun, 03/04/2012 - 21:21 | Link to Comment CrockettAlmanac.com
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How about penning a ditty on hedonic adjustments called Good Privations?

Sun, 03/04/2012 - 17:51 | Link to Comment Umh
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You volunteer for identured servitude and get voted into paying taxes and receiving the government's spoils in exchange.

Sun, 03/04/2012 - 18:38 | Link to Comment BigJim
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Well, for a start, the indentured servant probably got more for his money.

Sun, 03/04/2012 - 16:53 | Link to Comment Hugo Chavez
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A labrynthine federal income tax system breeds contempt because only club members get to benefit and we aint in the club. Only the bottom fifty percent and the top one tenth of one percent are in the club.

I think it is every taxpayers patriotic duty to find a way to cheat. The sooner we become like greece in all ways the sooner we get real change.

Sun, 03/04/2012 - 18:46 | Link to Comment lotsoffun
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the bottom 50 percent are in the club because they voted for obama.  and will vote again if they get enough cattle prods to get them out the door again (which is unlikely because they've got so much coming in for free and love watching the television.  they are all feeling fat, comfy and loved right now).  the top 1 percent funded all that minimally. cost them peanuts and they are laughing about it.  obama played the puppet beautifully.   i expect the turnout for this election to be the lowest ever on a percentage basis.  hard to say what happens because the repubs don't have anybody vaguely convincing.

 

Sun, 03/04/2012 - 23:50 | Link to Comment FreeNewEnergy
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So glad so many around here get it, but Hugo has hit the nail on the head. AFAIK, cheating on taxes is an American tradition dating back to just about 1776. It became a national pastime in 1913 and a major league sport in 1968.

Sun, 03/04/2012 - 16:53 | Link to Comment AndrewCostello
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The problem now is that this debt is just being "created" out of nothing.  They have exhausted the savings and pensions of the people, and the currency system has just become one big worthless fraud.

 

Of course, the public are to blame, because they are the ones giving up assets (both physical and moral) in exchange for those worthless piles of paper which they then exchange for increasingly low quality plastic junk.

 

Read:

http://www.amazon.com/Simple-Wealth-Mr-Andrew-Costello/dp/1463523017/ref

Sun, 03/04/2012 - 16:54 | Link to Comment Ignatius
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The tax code isn't 50,000 pages long in an attempt to be 'fair',  that's for damn sure. 

Sun, 03/04/2012 - 17:31 | Link to Comment css1971
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You think they are just printing money now because nobody knows how the tax system works anymore?

Sun, 03/04/2012 - 18:17 | Link to Comment Amish Hacker
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The tax code is 50,000 pages long because it's a political document, not a scientific one. Over and over again, year after year after year, lawyers have figured out ways to tweak this and add that, in order to make sure that their clients receive benefits that someone else pays for.

It's never about "fair." It's about securing your over-representation in this representative democracy.

 

 

Sun, 03/04/2012 - 22:17 | Link to Comment UP Forester
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I thought we who pay taxes are supposed to get a receipt, or printout, or whatever, for where the money is going that is paid in.

Because, ya know, I'd kinda like to know what trinkets or $16 muffins were bought from the sweat off my brow.

Sun, 03/04/2012 - 16:56 | Link to Comment rehypothecator
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Use of the tax code to perform social micro-engineering is unethical, even when one gets the results one intends (that is, setting aside unintended consequences).  

Sun, 03/04/2012 - 18:25 | Link to Comment Marco
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Where does that rabbit hole stop? Is national defence ethical to tax for?

If so ... how is trying to maintain social stability not a form of national defence to begin with?

Sun, 03/04/2012 - 18:47 | Link to Comment sun tzu
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lame attempt...you might be able to fool some highschool and college kids with that one. maybe everyone in america needs an iphone to maintain social stability

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 16:05 | Link to Comment Marco
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No ... every adult in America needs to be able to get a job which pays sufficiently to raise a small family in good health and and a modicum of comfort.

Anyway, big talk about fooling when you avoided the question ... is it ethical to tax for national defence?

Sun, 03/04/2012 - 19:21 | Link to Comment earleflorida
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in the fox's den

Sun, 03/04/2012 - 20:05 | Link to Comment sun tzu
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Sun, 03/04/2012 - 16:58 | Link to Comment Sandmann
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Couldn't they produce an Abridged Tax Code listing the Pork Barrel Provisions like those for a "certain incorporation in Delaware" that we know to be GM ?

Sun, 03/04/2012 - 16:59 | Link to Comment russwinter
Sun, 03/04/2012 - 17:23 | Link to Comment Goldilocks
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/false dilemma?… the size of that video file was 6.66 MB :-/

Sun, 03/04/2012 - 17:08 | Link to Comment RSloane
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I have never felt as angry paying taxes as I have this year. I don't think I'm alone in that. How much of my money is going to be poured into pay-back projects for big time party donors with failed business plans? Is my money going to be used to finance a war with another nation or building infrastructure in foreign countries while our infrastructure rots? Maybe it will go to farmers to pay them not to grow things people need. Yeah, okay I feel better now.

Sun, 03/04/2012 - 17:16 | Link to Comment DosZap
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RSloane

Or pay for a "smidget" of one of the thirty six vacations the fist lady has gone on last year.

I have lot count of Obambys outings.

 

Sun, 03/04/2012 - 18:40 | Link to Comment lotsoffun
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the obamas are under a lot stress.  they are winning noble peace prizes by keeping the world safe for democracy and deserve every minute of free time.  michelle gave birth to future world peace prize winners.  i think they deserve a trip to the moon, maybe they can be the first colonists there.  martians have agreed to pay for it, as they want them as neighbors.  i think that's pretty funny, even for mr. lotsoffun.

 

 

Sun, 03/04/2012 - 17:19 | Link to Comment Gully Foyle
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RSloane

Dude, were you born yesterday?

Because I see nothing new in your complaint, at least nothing to differentiate this tax year from the last fifty or so.

Sun, 03/04/2012 - 20:40 | Link to Comment CrockettAlmanac.com
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Why criticize the frog who is smart enough to consider leaping before the pot boils simply because he didn't jump when the burner was first lit?

Mon, 03/05/2012 - 01:21 | Link to Comment Ms. Erable
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But... but... but... if you don't pay your fair share, we won't have toys like this to kill them thar terrists: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=-uV1SbEuzFU

America -Fuck Yeah!

('/sarc' - for the comedically impaired)

Sun, 03/04/2012 - 17:20 | Link to Comment Lost Wages
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Refund bitchez.

Sun, 03/04/2012 - 17:21 | Link to Comment Henry Hub
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The cost of the various ongoing wars should be separated from general taxes. This WAR TAX should be payed in September or some other date. Then people would realize the cost of empire. They would realize what it cost them personally fighting for oil and Israel.

Sun, 03/04/2012 - 18:49 | Link to Comment sun tzu
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the same goes for the bailout and welfare state taxes

Sun, 03/04/2012 - 17:28 | Link to Comment Atomizer
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  • 15.1 % don't work
  • Minimum wage workers don't pay taxes 

We all laugh at the policy makers going after the rich. Let's pretend you go after the rich. How long will it take for the rich to become unemployed and the revenue stream ends for policy makers tax receipts?. 

Regarding the current 15.1% unemployed.  Why haven't they been able to develop new employment opportunities or form new business’s to hire employee’s to generate taxable income?

We all can see your bullshit failure. Kindly explain your retorts.

Sun, 03/04/2012 - 17:35 | Link to Comment HungrySeagull
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The empty downtown testify to that.

120+ year old brick buildings are not worth the money to rebuild or green enough to sustain themselves with somewhat conservative energy demands each month.

It's cheaper to build outwards than it is to rebuild unless you demo it first.

Sun, 03/04/2012 - 17:43 | Link to Comment Atomizer
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Yes. This is how this fraud has gone on for millenniums. Build & Destroy, all human life is sacrificed to the money counterfeit operation.

Sun, 03/04/2012 - 17:29 | Link to Comment Umh
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It seems to me that "The Income Tax" is just a way to punish nonconformist. If the government wants money they just print it, therefore "The Income Tax" is a penalty for trying.

Sun, 03/04/2012 - 18:50 | Link to Comment SilverDOG
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Now that is close to the core. ++

Sun, 03/04/2012 - 23:42 | Link to Comment CrockettAlmanac.com
Sun, 03/04/2012 - 17:38 | Link to Comment HungrySeagull
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Our returns are finished for the year, we waited until after the IRS got the hitch set.

Now our Tax Preparer is getting too damn expensive. We are paying twice what we paid 10 years ago for the same goddamn service.

And that money eats into our refunds after taxes are settled with fed and state.

Withholding? HAH. Not worth the hassle.

There was a time when the Congress first voted Income Tax into existence with a 1% rate for everyone. One person remarked what is it gonna stop? 10%? 20&?

100 years ago.

Next year I think to submit electronically myself, it will half the cost and expense of the preparer.

Sun, 03/04/2012 - 17:50 | Link to Comment junkyardjack
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US citizens have already been taxed into homelessness by corporations, the government will need to start accepting first born children

http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2012-03-02/living-in-your-car-no-longer-just-for-bums#p1

Sun, 03/04/2012 - 17:54 | Link to Comment non_anon
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I've used TaxAct, online tax program for free Federal filing and cheap state filing.

The gov could give us, that actually pay an income tax, a holiday for a couple of years and see the economy take off, but once the taxpayer got a taste of freedom, there wouldn't be any going back.

Sun, 03/04/2012 - 18:24 | Link to Comment bob_dabolina
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Keep dreaming

Sun, 03/04/2012 - 18:54 | Link to Comment non_anon
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an unsung hero in the tax reform movement that was imprisoned for his fight with the system and he was a US Congressman

THE GEORGE HANSEN STORY

http://www.constitution.org/ghansen/conghansen.htm

I shall be imprisoned soon for my tax protest

Sun, 03/04/2012 - 17:55 | Link to Comment mickeyman
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People, the purpose of the income tax is to help manage inflation. Income tax drains money out of your pocket and keeps you from using it to drive up the prices of things such as food and gasoline. Yes, they could "fund" the budget out of smoke, but they still need to keep you from having a lot of cash around driving up prices. That's why it had to be introduced at the same time as the appearance of the Fed.

Sun, 03/04/2012 - 18:53 | Link to Comment SilverDOG
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BBWaah haaa haaaaa haa!

Sun, 03/04/2012 - 23:32 | Link to Comment BlackholeDivestment
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...2011, an unemployed American/Constitution moves capital from a brokerage account into a bank account. The American/Constitution lost money betting on the market and realized negative income for 2011 at Fed Zero. The movement of capital, at a loss, is a ''credit event'' in the eye of the American/IRS Agent(employed worker)/Constitution. There is no reason for the Unemployed American/Constitution to file any tax return, but because there is a ''credit event'' there is legal ground for a  ''charge'' by the employed IRS Agent/Americant/Constitution. The American/IRS Agent/Constitution must prove why the American/ IRS Agent is the cause of the loss. In doing so the American/Constitution causes more loss of principle (at minimum) as a measure of time related to the amount of labor (paper work etc...) it takes to PROVE the cost of the presumed innocent American/Constitution. LMAO. 

There is a reason why the American/Constitution/IRS Agent is the enemy of life, liberty freedom, independence and justice for all. Chairsatan and the Suicide Vampire Squid of the Great Wal Mart of China have guns and Americans don't have a brain. 

P.S. Mr. Down Arrow, you have no case. An American can have no job and a loss in the market, move their capital from one account to another and not have any cause to be taxed, BUT!!! that movement is legal grounds for IRS Agents to act if the American does not file, even though there is no reason for the American to file other than the cost required by the IRS to prove/file the American is innocent of any charge. LMAO That's the fact Jack and it means you owe.  http://www.allgov.com/US_and_the_World/ViewNews/Tax_Evaders_Renounce_US_Citizenship_120124 

Even the State Department says Americans are not free. LMAO.

 http://articles.nydailynews.com/2012-02-02/news/31019178_1_passport-fees-passport-book-application-fee 

...what are the the American Prison Wardens going to do if you refuse to pay for being an American Prisoner, force you to remain an American? ROTFLMAO PAAAAAthetic. 

P.S.S. If you are an American Soldier you are in the field as an enemy to life, liberty, independence, freedom and justice for all. That is your ''New World Order''. Every person that ever fought for freedom means ZERO now, and everyone killed by the ''armed forces'' was and is an offense.

Sun, 03/04/2012 - 18:15 | Link to Comment Atomizer
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Buying Turbo Timmy Tax software will keep you out of jail. Software is endorsed by: Federal Employees Dodge Taxes

 

No link needed, you can find the US taxpayer public servants who violated tax laws on line. Yet, they appear on TV spinning their fabricated tax reform story.

Sun, 03/04/2012 - 18:36 | Link to Comment Atomizer
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I hate to be someone to stir the pot. All taxpayer's income tax money goes to the IMF quasi account first, then it's redistributed accordingly. Start below, then find the IMF connection.

http://stormthunder.com/#axzz1oBoaty1G

Sun, 03/04/2012 - 18:53 | Link to Comment AndrewJackson
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I just watched the first couple minutes of this, but it looked like a piece of shit. It seems that the clowns in this film care more about making the tax system easier to navigate more so than eliminating the bullshit taxes all toghether. The more important question would be why can't our society do with the amount of taxation before 1916?

Sun, 03/04/2012 - 19:13 | Link to Comment Atomizer
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Andrew Jackson,

No sure if you meant the Hulu link or mine. Watch my link to understand the upcoming defunct Federal Reserve.

Sun, 03/04/2012 - 19:34 | Link to Comment brettd
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Saying & thinking "enuf is enuf" is one thing.

Knowing the action to take to support the words is the issue I face.

Sun, 03/04/2012 - 19:04 | Link to Comment ickeykerr
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At least we have our CPA's to save us - 'the great upholders of public trust'. They have educated themselves into imbecility. Theyre all criminally negligent and fundamentally not doing their job.

When it comes time to pay your CPA that $500 preparation fee, you might ought to suggest to them that that whole 'independence in mental attitude' thing applies just as much to the information they have received from their beloved government. 

 

 

Sun, 03/04/2012 - 23:01 | Link to Comment BidnessMan
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Ha ha ha. Sarc of course. The CPA actually works for the IRS - far more concerned about keeping their IRS certification than you. You just get to pay the fee.

Sun, 03/04/2012 - 19:36 | Link to Comment brettd
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Highly suggest creating personal/family charitable trusts.

If you're in a high tax bracket, it's better to send money to a fund you control rather than send 

that money to the govt.

Sun, 03/04/2012 - 20:29 | Link to Comment piceridu
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I don't know about you, but this documentary seems like a propaganda tool...justification, like wars just happened and the 16th amendment was our patriotic duty because of WWI...what about the creation of the Central Bank-Federal Reserve in 1913 and the 16th amendment in 1913...coincidence?

Sun, 03/04/2012 - 20:35 | Link to Comment krispkritter
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Liked America - Freedom to Fascism better.  Previously shuttered the Inc. so simple filing for the interim.  'Estimated Tax' is a fucking joke...this system blows and not in the good way.

Sun, 03/04/2012 - 21:14 | Link to Comment Seasmoke
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just stop working over the table

Sun, 03/04/2012 - 22:17 | Link to Comment non_anon
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this clip showed one side of the coin and not the other with the popular uprisings against the income tax throughout US history that the gov wants to hide from it's debt slaves

Sun, 03/04/2012 - 22:38 | Link to Comment puck
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If the tards in congress would issue money without intrest to put into the economy we could turd this log around

Sun, 03/04/2012 - 22:50 | Link to Comment Timmay
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Not one mention of the role of credit on the tax code. Take away the 40% of money that is borrowed to fund Federal Programs and just fund those programs with what we actually collect in taxes and I guarantee you people will pay attention.

Sun, 03/04/2012 - 23:03 | Link to Comment Tunga
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The tax code was never made "positive law" by the US Congress. It is "special law" that only applies to those who make themselves liable by claiming status as a US Citizen or an "employee" of the federal US government.

A national but not a citizen of the United States who lives outside the District of Columbia and does not sign a W-4 can be considered a "non resident alien". These NRA's are not liable to the "income" tax as long as they don't "perform the functions of a government officer".

Sun, 03/04/2012 - 23:53 | Link to Comment FreeNewEnergy
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Seriously, did anybody waste 1 1/2 hours to watch the stoopid video? I know I didn't. Figured, like a lot of economic, government and political stuff these days, I already knew the answers.

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