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Initial Claims Miss For 7th Week In A Row, "Improve" From Last Week's Bogus Revised Number

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And so the gaming continues: Initial Claims miss expectations of a 383K print, coming at 387K, a number which next week will be revised to 390K. This is the 7th miss in a row, and 23rd miss of the past 26 weeks. It is also the highest 4 week average since December. But the mainstream media has its soundbite: "initial claims decline by 2,000" because, lo and behold, last week's 386K print was revised to 389K. We have discussed this topic to death: little to add here. The ceremonial scripting by the BLS continues full bore. The only real data point in today's release: those collecting extended claims continue to hit the 99-week cliff, as 42K more drop off Komrade Samov's free lunch dole. Finally, judging by the somewhat muted positive market response to this latest piece of horrible economic news, the data was bad but not bad enough: we need a 400K+ print for the ES to get back to 1,400 it appears.

Full summary of misses in the last 6 months:

 


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Thu, 06/21/2012 - 08:40 | Link to Comment battle axe
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YAWN......

Thu, 06/21/2012 - 08:52 | Link to Comment GetZeeGold
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Always wait for the revisions...

 

 

Thu, 06/21/2012 - 09:07 | Link to Comment sablya
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And the market blithely ignores reality.  It sings a little song like this, la-de-da, Bernanke...tra-la-la Bernanke.

Thu, 06/21/2012 - 16:49 | Link to Comment short-swap
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Can someone please explain to me how these numbers are so close to eachother week after week, revision scamming aside? If these are INITIAL claims, that means that each claim is a new, unique individual requesting unemployment benefits, correct? How is it that each week, the number varies by only a couple thousand? Is this actually, like everything else, an extrapolation based on some biased survey? Or are these discrete, actual counts? It would seem to me that there should be a legitimate tracking mechanism to actually count the number of claims. I could see rounding to the nearest thousand to make things clear, but I cannot understand how one week 386K new people file for unemployment and then the next week 387K. Shouldn't there be more volatility or are the exact same number of people laid off or fired each week???

Thu, 06/21/2012 - 08:41 | Link to Comment transaccountin
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amazing action in the /es. so disgusted. good is good and bad is better

Thu, 06/21/2012 - 08:44 | Link to Comment JPM Hater001
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Fixed.

"good is good and bad is Ben-er."

Thu, 06/21/2012 - 08:45 | Link to Comment Cursive
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@transaccountin

I'm not sure what the downward catalyst will be, but we are close.  Economic data is bad and the Fed passed on lending a helping hand.

Thu, 06/21/2012 - 08:40 | Link to Comment miker
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THEY are doing everything they can to hold the number below 400,000.  That is a significant threshold.

Thu, 06/21/2012 - 08:50 | Link to Comment ejmoosa
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...and likely one that has already been breached.  

Thu, 06/21/2012 - 09:02 | Link to Comment dbomb12
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Very soon the B.S will catch up even the FED admits it now

Thu, 06/21/2012 - 08:43 | Link to Comment Divided States ...
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Funny, this morning Bloomberg TV had simultaneous headlines with one caption that said that claims fell by 2k to 387,000 and right below on the breaking news caption had a headline that said claims rose by 2k to 387,000. So someone obvious wasnt paid off in the news dissemination.

Thu, 06/21/2012 - 08:48 | Link to Comment DeadFred
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The truth is much easier than lying, you don't have to remember what you said, what you're going to say, what you want them to hear..., you just tell the truth. I know, it's a radical idea.

Thu, 06/21/2012 - 10:45 | Link to Comment taniquetil
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Don't you get it? Claims fall when Barack pays up. The rise when Mitt pays up. If neither out-bribes the other, the headlines are chosen by =rand()

Thu, 06/21/2012 - 08:42 | Link to Comment malikai
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I'm so glad we've recovered. I was starting to get worried.

Thu, 06/21/2012 - 08:43 | Link to Comment JPM Hater001
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Do we have to call it a "cliff"?  I thought we were into Vaporized.  Those on 99 weeks were vaporized by reality.

Thu, 06/21/2012 - 08:50 | Link to Comment mayhem_korner
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Don't they just move from the UE benefits line to the SS/Disability line?

Meet the new boss...same as the old boss.

Thu, 06/21/2012 - 09:59 | Link to Comment MilleniumJane
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If they're "lucky."  :(

Thu, 06/21/2012 - 08:44 | Link to Comment MFL8240
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The dictator is doing great with the economy.  Exactly why he has attempted every other sleazy diversionary tactic known to the Chicago bozys.

Thu, 06/21/2012 - 08:45 | Link to Comment overmedicatedun...
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keep the homeless bums off the streets..gestapo er HLS has those jobs..USA one giant prison on it's way run by a dyke at HLS and a fag in the not so whitehouse..some people are more equal than others

Thu, 06/21/2012 - 08:45 | Link to Comment mayhem_korner
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CNBC.com headline "Weekly Claims Lower But 4-Week Average Hits 2012 High"

http://www.cnbc.com/id/47902094

Apparently, since no one at CNBC passed those higher-order mathematical constructs (like addition), they assume none of their audience did either.

Thu, 06/21/2012 - 08:55 | Link to Comment otto skorzeny
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the 3 people left that watch CNBC?

Thu, 06/21/2012 - 08:58 | Link to Comment GetZeeGold
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Oh....so their rating are recovering.......glad to hear it!

 

Thu, 06/21/2012 - 09:15 | Link to Comment ThisIsBob
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Jezus, a bunch of babe wannabes who have never sweated a drawdown in their lives reading a tele-prompter and telling me how it is?  Right.

Thu, 06/21/2012 - 08:45 | Link to Comment RobotTrader
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Poor gold bugs are getting the "Jerry Sandusky" treatment today.

 

After getting hoodwinked by all the "gold going to 'da moon!" calls going on at King World News.

Probably going to be another stellar day for retail, with more stocks in that group hitting 52 week highs.

Thu, 06/21/2012 - 08:55 | Link to Comment GetZeeGold
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Dude....we're up year after year for like 11 years now. We can afford it.

 

Just BTFDs......it's pretty damn easy actually.

 

Thu, 06/21/2012 - 08:55 | Link to Comment slaughterer
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Retail and tech are the "Great Shorts" for Summer 2012.

Many are stealth shorting retail with total conviction.   

Thu, 06/21/2012 - 08:56 | Link to Comment mayhem_korner
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I'm actually grateful that physical bullion can still be gotten at something close to the "Sandusky-ed" paper price.  Just means there are a lot of naivete still in the market to keep the blue-light specials going...

Thu, 06/21/2012 - 08:59 | Link to Comment somethingisrotten
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SPAM

Thu, 06/21/2012 - 09:00 | Link to Comment CCanuck
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 What is "Sandusky Treatment"?? Do you mean Gold bugs are children that  been sexually abused?

For all of Sandusky's victims, GO FUCK YOURSELF ROBOTARD!

Find some other analogies, YOU SICK FUCK!

Thu, 06/21/2012 - 09:08 | Link to Comment otto skorzeny
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the motherfer should be drawn and quartered-there is no downside risk to this kind of perversion any more- most of these f*****s will probably enjoy the prison "social scene"

Thu, 06/21/2012 - 10:20 | Link to Comment skohiu
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Benchmarks of retail: BBY, JCP and now BBBY....nuff said

Thu, 06/21/2012 - 08:45 | Link to Comment Vincent Vega
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Bullshitish.

Thu, 06/21/2012 - 08:46 | Link to Comment caimen garou
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all is well, when you have the monkeys pushing green buttons with bad news!

Thu, 06/21/2012 - 08:46 | Link to Comment mrktwtch2
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man its been 4 yrs almost since lehman..and this economy still has not recovered..i guess thats what happens when you have 1.2 trillion of losses on paper and use mark to mark to fantasy accounting to tell everyone that the stuff that you have is worth 95 cents on the dollar when the true amount is more like 15cents..

Thu, 06/21/2012 - 08:52 | Link to Comment mayhem_korner
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We should be so lucky that the paper losses were only $1.2 trillion.  If that was the extent of it, BLS wouldn't need to lie so much...

Thu, 06/21/2012 - 08:48 | Link to Comment newworldorder
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We here know the fixis in. Most people will only hear the improvement soundbite on a 2 minute upadate on the radio or TV after work today. They will 'hear" with their brain turned OFF and their "political" biases turned ON.

Financially, Europe burns and gold takes a hit. All is as it should with the world.

Thu, 06/21/2012 - 08:49 | Link to Comment ejmoosa
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How different the headlines would be if we only reported the corrected numbers a week later for unemployment and a month later for non-farm payroll.  

 

When was the last time an initial estimate remained unchanged?

Thu, 06/21/2012 - 08:49 | Link to Comment SheepDog-One
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YEAY more upbeat optimism for FREE MONEY!

Thu, 06/21/2012 - 08:55 | Link to Comment chanxmanx
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Why isn't the /es_f dropping like it's hot? 

 

ohh... apparently everything around the world is OK. 

Thu, 06/21/2012 - 08:56 | Link to Comment slaughterer
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There will be no QE3 until next year, after fiscal cliff fiasco.   Plenty of bad news to rally on until then. 

Thu, 06/21/2012 - 08:57 | Link to Comment buzzsaw99
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In order to fix this someone is going to have to lie harder.

Thu, 06/21/2012 - 08:59 | Link to Comment otto skorzeny
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this is getting to feel like summer of 08 with EVERY piece of bad news shrugged off- of course that was before PPT was in da house.

Thu, 06/21/2012 - 09:04 | Link to Comment Oldwood
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So things are getting better, right?

Thu, 06/21/2012 - 09:08 | Link to Comment Blue Dog
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It's not just the approximately 400,000 lost jobs every week that are a problem. It's the fact that new jobs were only 65,000 last month. We need 1,733,000 every month just to stay even. Even at 3 million new jobs every month it would take a long time for the economy to fully recover.

The way it is now, it's clear that the economy is continuing to shrink. GDP numbers are bogus because they're adjusted by an artificially low inflation number. The economy didn't grow by 1%. It shrunk by 6%.

All the lost income takes an increasing toll on the economy. People don't have money to spend. They're not buying. Companies can't pay their bills because their customers can't pay them.

 

Thu, 06/21/2012 - 09:11 | Link to Comment ThisIsBob
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No customers, no jobs.  All you need to know.

Thu, 06/21/2012 - 09:08 | Link to Comment MFL8240
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Bush's fault?

Thu, 06/21/2012 - 09:12 | Link to Comment LawsofPhysics
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Still believe the two-party lie?  That's a good sheep.  The banks and financial houses thank you and suggest starting another unfunded war.

 

LMFAO!

Thu, 06/21/2012 - 09:11 | Link to Comment LawsofPhysics
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Beating expectations, all      the       way        DOWN.

Thu, 06/21/2012 - 10:43 | Link to Comment JPM Hater001
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Best to countersink.

Thu, 06/21/2012 - 09:19 | Link to Comment adr
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The market still thinks Ben will unleash more QE. The prescription pain killer addict market is saying, "What do you mean you won't write me another, I have pain, I need it, you can't say no."

Did Ben say more QE? I didn't see it, but the market thinks he did.

I guess that is all he needed to do. Let the addict believe more drugs are on the way. Then the most worthless corporations in the world can keep gantin their directors more stock at ever higher valutations so they can all start buying parts of Greece and Spain.

Thu, 06/21/2012 - 09:23 | Link to Comment VonManstein
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Stocks are unshackable, hardly moving while the commodity complex and PMs are getting destroyed. 10 year not doing so much either considering.

The market is broken, the central planners have done a royal job of destroying it.

Thu, 06/21/2012 - 09:30 | Link to Comment prodigious_idea
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But Jim Cramer just said that lower gas prices mean savings on food and other items, particularly at Walmart so I'm better off, right?  And please don't ask why I was subjected to CNBC.

Thu, 06/21/2012 - 09:40 | Link to Comment Dukepinewood69
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Just out of curiousity,have the numbers ever been revised down???

 

Thu, 06/21/2012 - 09:58 | Link to Comment Hohum
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Claims down 35K year over year (NSA).  If the data is accurate, we're muddling along.

Thu, 06/21/2012 - 10:30 | Link to Comment Snakeeyes
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Excellent! But once again, more people are going on disability than are leaving welfare rolls. So, IJC is really a joke.\

http://confoundedinterest.wordpress.com/2012/06/21/economic-stall-speed-existing-homes-sales-fall-philly-fed-index-falls-most-since-august-2011/

Thu, 06/21/2012 - 13:55 | Link to Comment covert
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where are the real numbers?

http://covert.ias3.com/expose/

Thu, 06/21/2012 - 13:11 | Link to Comment Morrotzo
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Why would anybody listen to Bureau of Labor Statistics? They are almost always more optimistic than is warranted and are ceasely "revising upwards." Wrong 24 times out of 26! How could anybody care about their 27th prediction? They are clearly trying to make something seem better than it is. With proper numbers and assumptions, and no crooked agenda, you would think they'd at least get it correct 1 time out of every 2.

 

 

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