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Initial Claims Miss Expectations, Rise For Third Consecutive Week For First Time Since August 2010

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Initial claims printed +362K, missing consensus of +352K, and up from a upward revised, (of course) 354K. As a reminder, last week's print was expected to be 355K, instead coming at 351K spiking the market far higher. Needless to say, the response would have been far more muted had the number come at its true final print of virtually on top of expectations, but who cares anymore - everyone appears to enjoy lying and being lied to. That this miss comes ahead of a critical NFP print will likely have some scratching their heads especially since this is the first time we have seen three consecutive weeks of rises since August 2010. Also keep in mind next week, today's 362K will be upward revised to 365K. Hence the immediate if not sooner need for more, more, more QE. Continuing claims also missed at 3416K vs exp. of 3400K, and rising from an upwardly revised 3406K. Finally, EUCs and Extended benefits rose by 27K. Finally, when it comes to comparing before and after, we think it always makes sense to see the full picture, not just initial claims, and account for continuing and extended. Here is what it looks like for all those who tell us that the labor situation is as good as it was in 2008.


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Thu, 03/08/2012 - 09:45 | 2235583 spastic_colon
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Bearish!  [whisper] [whisper] sorry, BULLISH!

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 09:49 | 2235595 Momauguin Joe
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What, no body played with the numbers? The number crunchers as the FED must be out at Spring Break.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 09:55 | 2235609 SheepDog-One
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AH yes thats right theyre busy with spring break lol. Cancun, putas!

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 10:00 | 2235623 spiral_eyes
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But at least we have the iPad 3, right bitches?


You mean to say Apple couldn't keep innovating at the rate they used to?

You mean to say that maybe they can't sustain their growth rates?

You mean to say they're going to eventually stagnate like Microsoft?


Thu, 03/08/2012 - 10:08 | 2235650 Momauguin Joe
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Peak iPad.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 10:10 | 2235658 Harlequin001
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I smell 'recovery"...

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 10:23 | 2235710 semperfi
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peak of the Apple bubble will be:  iSex

sell on that announcement

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 09:53 | 2235604 stocktivity
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It's all Bullshit!  Rally on.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 09:57 | 2235616 Clueless Economist
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Who was that hot bimbo sitting with Liesman on CNBS.  She said this "was a small increase in already very low claims numbers" and she "expects a pretty positive jobs report tomorrow"

Who is this hottie and what are her qualifications to sit next to an esteemed economist like Steve Liesman?

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 10:10 | 2235651 Problem Is
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It was a classic CNBC Anchorette...

"was a small increase in already very low claims numbers"

With a big increase in implant size...


She doesn't reflect the studio lights into a glare unlike Lies-man's esteemed cue-bald head...

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 10:13 | 2235673 Jake88
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esteemed economist Steve Liesman. LOL. CNBC's finest.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 10:13 | 2235675 misled
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Kelly Evans ... not sure about her qualifications but she looks good

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 11:11 | 2235872 Clueless Economist
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ok found her, from 3/1/12:

CNBC's newest star reporter Kelly Evans made her debut appearance on the financial news network this morning on "Squawk Box."

Evans, who previously wrote the “Ahead of the Tape” column and hosted the daily "News Hub" program for The Wall Street Journal, introduced a new (well, it's new to us) economic indicator -- "The Dentist Indicator." 

Basically, she said, her dentist is seeing way more new patients than normal -- a phenomenon that happens when people get jobs, and go back to the dentist for the first time in awhile with health insurance.

Read more:

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 11:47 | 2236032 absente reo
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5'11" / 6ft tall.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 10:16 | 2235677 MassDecep
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Silver and Gold and all PM's at bargain prices. Buy and get delivery!  The 99% are clueless and allow the lies to permeate their lives.

My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 10:37 | 2235753 King_Julian
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For in much wisdom is much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 13:39 | 2236511 Goldilocks
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AVE MARIA in good sound by Mirusia Louwerse with André Rieu (2008). (5:19)

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 09:46 | 2235586 Moneyswirth
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McJobs Bitchez!

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 09:50 | 2235597 Momauguin Joe
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Talking point of the day for Faux News.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 09:49 | 2235589 LawsofPhysics
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Why does that chart look a lot like M2 (at least going up).  FAIL.  Soylent green bitchez.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 10:12 | 2235664 Harlequin001
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Thu, 03/08/2012 - 09:48 | 2235592 Jason T
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Aggregate demand is collapsing..  


Cant' afford as much stuff because Ben is turning my money into confetti.  

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 09:52 | 2235602 SheepDog-One
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I can afford this case of 500 12guage buckshot I just ordered!

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 09:56 | 2235613 cossack55
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There is really no option to not being able to afford it.  A few less trips to the Golden Arches for the dollar menu and Voila!, its paid for.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 10:05 | 2235641 Problem Is
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Get your reload kits... Get'em while there hot! Get'em while they're still available...

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 10:07 | 2235649 scatterbrains
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Nice choice,  everyone is loading up on .308 for their M1a's thinking they'll reach out and tag shit at 1000 yards when the reality is it's going to be someone up in your spot from about 10 ft away in the darkness that you need to protect against. Nothing like emptying a sawed off 5 shot auto in a dark room with your eyes closed to dispense with all organic matter in about 5 seconds.  Remember to ask "who goes there?" after you've unloaded your first volleys, while reloading and not before.



Thu, 03/08/2012 - 10:12 | 2235668 Problem Is
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Nothing like firing that .308 right through the front door...

Rather than opening it to unload said shot gun...

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 10:20 | 2235700 semperfi
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Getting a handgun this weekend to balance out my collection of rifles/shotguns. Never owned one, never fired one - so, what caliber would you all recommend?  9mm?  45?  357?

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 10:29 | 2235727 Problem Is
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Me? I like the good ole Browning Hi power 9mm auto...

But I'm no expert...

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 11:31 | 2235955 MachoMan
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Spectacular suggestion for his scenario...  for someone who does not use handguns often and is simply looking to round out defensive capabilities, I would suggest 9mm.  I personally prefer .45 acp, but 9mm is more than sufficient to get the job done, is incredibly popular and a military caliber so there is a lot of cheap ammo out there, and you probably have a wider array of gun possibilities (there is only so compact you're going to get a .45 before it's too unruly).

I'd think a short list of generic 9mm handguns would be: browning hi power; springfield xdm 4 or 5"; glock 17 or 19; HK p30, p2000, or USP; beretta 92 or px4; ruger p95; Sig 226; SW M&P...

I would suggest going into a local chain store with the most prolific handgun collection...  just see how everything feels...  if you can go to a local range and rent your narrowed down choices before buying, I would also suggest this...  then buy one and GO TO THE FUCKING RANGE A LOT...  learn to take it down and reassemble it with your eyes closed...  and be sure to properly maintain it.  And, when your wife isn't looking, buy another.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 10:47 | 2235785 the 300000000th...
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It kinda depends on your purchasing power. I don't have a lot of money but I still managed to get a Ruger p95 9mm, and a 1911 45acp sistema. I keep about 500-700 rnds of 45acp but that shit is way too expensive and HEAVY! So I prefered to stock up on a lot more 9mm because its still a formitable defensive round( i dont care what anybody says) I get people that whine, " its not strong enough to take down an intruder" but when I ask them to stand in from of me to try it out, they all say "hell no" and its CHEAP! i get 50 round boxes at my local Walmart for 10 bucks.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 10:52 | 2235805 King_Julian
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The .40SW is a great round IMHO. Lighter than a .45 yet packing a good punch with 160-180 grain projectiles. The Glock 22 at about $530 is a solid bargain. Glock also makes this in compact 23 and sub 27 models. Some LE use .40 too. H&K, Sig and others have good choices. The simplicity and cost of Glock puts it over the top for me. An integrated light costs at least $200 new. You could just use a decent flashlight from Four7s (Quarks are outstanding and affordable in AA or C123) and have good night capability. 1000 rounds of PMC 40D ammo about $300. Defensive rounds run about $25/20. Get a good Blackhawk holster. Done.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 10:56 | 2235821 Dapper Dan
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The 500 S&W Magnum will produce almost 2600 ft.-lb. with its heaviest load, and more powerful loads may well be on the way.

Read more: Smith and Wesson Most Powerful Handgun - 500 Cal Magnum Pistol from Smith and Wesson - Popular Mechanics


You don't just casually pick up a Model 500. You have to lift it.


What you need if confronted with a tyranosourous rex in your house.

But really, 9mm

Shooting Times' Technical Editor rates the 9mm Luger and .357 Magnum as the ... the most vastly popular handgun cartridge of any type ever invented, worldwide.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 11:15 | 2235882 Big Slick
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I think that a big part of the question of load size for your pistol is your cash situation.  Mine's light and I like to practice a lot, so while I would've preferred 45 for stopping power, I chose 9mm for financial feasibility.  Practice a lot and get comfortable with your weapon.  Even dry firing at home is better than nothing.

ALWAYS REMEMBER: Use a full metal jacket load for practice (cheap), and use hollow point for actual defense!!!  I had a friend (Beretta 92) who didn't even know about hollow points.  Despite what you learned in the movies, they are not illegal, they do not go through bullet-proof vests, and they are the normal defensive load for people who know what they are talking about.


Thu, 03/08/2012 - 11:26 | 2235924 semperfi
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thanks everyone - all helpful stuff - purchasing power involves silver coins - real money

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 11:39 | 2235998 BeerBrewer09
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Buy whatever you feel comfortable shooting/carrying.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 10:15 | 2235682 LawsofPhysics
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Based on my own military experience. While what you suggest is good for "home protection" (and ignoring the fact that you won't ever see tactical nukes coming), I prefer the .556 and .223 variants fired from a firearm that has a 400x infared beam scope with a night vison switch.  Very easy to "tag" a target at 200 yards without them ever knowing they were being targeted and it can be used during the day or dark of night.  just saying, by the time a zombie horde gets into your house, its too late.  Good luck with the reloading thing, lots of aftermarket clips for the carbines that easily hold 100 rounds.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 10:26 | 2235705 Problem Is
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The Optimistic Outlook:

What do you do when there is no more ammo on the shelf?

BTW: "Zombie Squad" 556 AR-15 seems to be sound advice... LOL...

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 10:30 | 2235734 LawsofPhysics
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When everyone is out of ammo, that will be a good thing.  But if you are going to make a weak attempt at trolling, I'll play along.  Why in the hell wouldn't you recon all the ammo from your enemies?  Have you ever served?  The whole point of military ops is recon.  Always has been.  The actual fighting occurs mainly when an operation has either failed or the desired information and control was not obtained.  You will never hear about the successful military operations.  Grow up, no one with half a brain would actually sit around in one spot near a major city and wait during a systemic failure.  Besides, I happen to communicate often with my neighbors, firends and employees.  We will be fine.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 10:35 | 2235746 Gully Foyle
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"We will be fine."

Yes, I'm quite certain I have never heard that before.

Personally I have already reconned my neighbors as to which will fall first. More mouths to feed lower chance of survival. More people greater chance of them turning on you for personal motivations.

I only need to run faster than you to beat the bear after all is said and done.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 10:39 | 2235761 LawsofPhysics
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Sounds like you need to move.  You can either work to insure a better future for yourself and your community, or accept what others define for you.

Again, grow up.  Unless you are the fastest runner in a world of seven billion, you won't make it without some external help.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 11:19 | 2235898 Big Slick
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That's cute, Physics.  You're such a sweet kid.  Never lose that  :)

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 11:47 | 2236036 LawsofPhysics
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So are you.  the only thing you can bank on in this life is that no one gets out alive.  Chance always favors the prepared mind, in business and life.

Fri, 03/09/2012 - 02:08 | 2238663 Big Slick
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All true.   ;)   I heard a quote once (can't remember where): "On a long enough timeline..."

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 10:30 | 2235735 Gully Foyle
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"Based on my own experience. While what you suggest is good for "home protection" (and ignoring the fact that you won't ever see tactical nukes coming), I prefer the"

The ability to use any object as a weapon.

"Oh wait Mr home invader I need to grab my gun".

Could be turned into,

"See how that broken coffee cup cut your ass to the bone dirtbag home invader".

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 10:40 | 2235764 LawsofPhysics
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A liitle training in hand-to-hand is always a good idea.  Keeps you healthy too.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 12:03 | 2236111 CrashisOptimistic
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When talk moves to preparing for the post Peak emptying of cities into which food cannot be transported, the phrase "zombie horde" is always for some reason introduced.

It's a bad thing to do so.  It feeds into an already strong inclination of people to re-immerse themselves in normalcy bias and adopt the concept that "this scenario is horrible and therefore will never happen".  Since there is no such thing as supernatural zombies, introducing the word reinforces the already deadly temptation to ignore the scenarios.

There will be huge flows of desperate, hungry people, with children, walking out of cities, looting food stores and then private homes for food.  You will NOT hold them off with firearms.

You have to get away from the cities.  Even if there is no violence, you must not find yourself facing parents and children on your doorstep asking for or demanding food.  If you give it to them, you will die.


Thu, 03/08/2012 - 10:26 | 2235722 Gully Foyle
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End of story.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 10:43 | 2235773 LaLiLuLeLo
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Shotgun slugs: They give you wings

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 11:46 | 2236029 Antifaschistische
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Re:  Shotgun Slugs (nice..but)


For the AR guys...spraying boxes of .223 at hoardes of zombies..nice but conserve ammo.  Go with the .50 Beowulf.  Learn to point and hit a target.   ps. this will also stop cars.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 11:09 | 2235863 scatterbrains
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well yea that part would kinda suck.  

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 10:15 | 2235680 Jake88
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Where can we order guillotines?

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 10:17 | 2235692 LawsofPhysics
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someone should start manufacturing them, just to see how long it is before the .gov intervenes in the "free" market.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 10:37 | 2235751 Gully Foyle
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Manufacture them? Just make the Bankers vs Guillotine app.

I'm pretty sure the masses playing that on a new Ipad3 will get the message across.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 10:42 | 2235768 LawsofPhysics
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That is a great idea.  If you don't mind I am going to go talk to one of my programmers right now.  I would certainly not limit the app to any single platform.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 09:48 | 2235593 GeneMarchbanks
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If only there was a market to digest this.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 09:51 | 2235598 SheepDog-One
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Priced in a 'strong beat guaranteed' yesterday according to media a miss though? NO PROBLEM futures still rise anyway!

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 09:55 | 2235611 spastic_colon
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no such thing as bearish as long as there is the possibility of more printing

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 10:00 | 2235626 SheepDog-One
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There will be no 'printing', and anyway printing is all fake anyway. People in their funds and all that BS are just getting set up for the biggest fall in human history, real soon.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 09:54 | 2235606 forward ho
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The comment;( no one cares, we enjoy being lied to) is so true. We all know the unemployment numbeers are completly bogus. Ever see a comment in the MSM about this? Naked fear on their part, lest they be shut down for telling the truth.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 10:05 | 2235643 Moneyswirth
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You would be correct, sir...

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 09:54 | 2235607 NEOSERF
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Yes but as stated about Presidents being reelected, it doesn't matter what the number is as long as it is getting better...we are fast forgetting those 8M unemployed-early retired citizens...bon voyage and hit em straight...because if you can simply push this anomolistic group of underskilled "deadwood" to the side of your mind, then things really are improving because current gov investment doesn't seek to get them back into the workforce but to simply "not count them anymore" which is just as good for re-election chances...

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 09:58 | 2235618 SheepDog-One
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What 'doesnt matter' is the peoples opinion on who the new CEO of 'US Bankrupt Corp' will anyone can actually believe the peasants pick who runs the Corp is baffling.

I mean, its ALREADY totaly obvious just thru the 'Electoral College' that the peoples vote does NOT count at all, and no candidate for 'Head Puppet' even gets there without being hand picked by the banks...isnt it OBVIOUS by now you have no actual say-so at all?

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 10:42 | 2235769 Debt-Is-Not-Money
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"without being hand picked by the banks"

That is if it makes it past Diebold.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 10:49 | 2235792 WonderDawg
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You don't honestly think the Diebold people have any say, do you? They produce the results they're told to produce.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 10:47 | 2235787 WonderDawg
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It's obvious to me. I try telling it to friends and family and their eyes glaze over, as all of here have likely experienced. Frustration is something I'm learning to live with. Even people who seem semi-awake still fall back on the red/blue paradigm. It is so ingrained in the populace that the only thing that will change it is total desperation and hopelessness.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 10:01 | 2235619 Problem Is
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"everyone appears to enjoy lying and being lied to."

I don't.

I was just lied to last night by a classic self entitled manipulative Boston liar... we'll call Mick. After several bald faced lies and fallacies of argument...

I sent the bitch packing...

Now the Real Question

How will the bald face liar Obama Bin Lyin' lie about this one...

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 10:02 | 2235630 SheepDog-One
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AH theres the rub...'Everyone enjoys being lied to' and if you dont, now youre an enemy of the state, a terrorist. 

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 10:18 | 2235684 Problem Is
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You maybe a Domestic Terrorist if:

    You own gold...

        You own guns...

            You own silver...

                You read Zero Hedge...

Bet that's you Sheepy...

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 12:10 | 2236139 therearetoomany...
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Great, now Fox news is running a story today that 'Sovereign Citizens' are a growing problem.   Gun grab, here we come.  


How have we let this country slip into facism?   Time to pick up the pitchforks.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 10:42 | 2235771 SmoothCoolSmoke
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Lying, the new black.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 09:59 | 2235620 Jim in MN
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I cry like a little girl when the powers that be fail to lie to me enough.

Boo hoo hoo.


--Al Go Rithm, master market maker and CNBC content randomizer

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 10:02 | 2235629 Moneyswirth
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NFP report will show 5% unemployment rate due to most 20-30 year olds not looking for work, sleeping in their parents basements while clutching their liberal arts degrees in Medieval Wardrobe Design

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 10:13 | 2235674 semperfi
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when everyone unemployed is on the govt dole not looking for work then the unemployement rate will be ZERO - after working for 33 years I'm ready to take advantage of the govt dole and let Warren Buffuck be my suga-daddy - go live on any beach i want - free food - free cell phone - free ObuffetCare - maybe even a free gummit motors Volt - what more can a man or woman want ?

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 10:16 | 2235688 Moneyswirth
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It's the Amerikan way!

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 12:08 | 2236133 therearetoomany...
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well, except the beach will be the back alley and the free healthcare will be a gun.   but, it will be 'free'.  

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 10:03 | 2235634 ptoemmes
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George Carlin woudn't like there being two Finaly(s).  Final approach....

Scarily prescient...




Thu, 03/08/2012 - 10:06 | 2235642 semperfi
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"but who cares anymore - everyone appears to enjoy lying and being lied to"

Tyler, I love ya man!  Now we know how to become a successful A) salesman B) pyschologist C) womanizer D) public servant E) etc...    I'm an engineer.  I didn't figure this out until I was about 47.  If I would have known this when I was 16 boy what a different life I would have set out on !!!  ;P

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 10:06 | 2235645 monopoly
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Cross currents in this market really starting to get scary. What has gotton better? Nothing. Just hopium. Moving to the sidelines probably not a bad bet. 

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 10:11 | 2235646 SheepDog-One
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No problem, futures scream higher, looks like the plan for DOW 13,000 threshold is going to be pushed no matter what, Shiticanes be damned we've got pumpin to do here....what else is in the initial claims report, another QE rumor? What a bunch of shit.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 10:17 | 2235693 spastic_colon
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now you're gettin''s all about conditioned response

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 10:09 | 2235656 Moneyswirth
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Don't forget the beating of war drums...

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 10:14 | 2235669 LouisDega
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Yes, Garage band on my new Ipad will have that sound effect along with rock and jazz drums on March 16. I hope i am alive for Mr Fed ex mans arrival

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 10:18 | 2235696 fuu
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Don't fret precious I'm here.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 10:11 | 2235663 rsnoble
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Now now we don't want to have too much of the rally on a thursday, the important day is friday so all the dummies can come home and watch fox news and see GREEN and associate that with improvement and blow what little they have left on mindless fucking garbage over the wknd and stimulate this limp dick economy.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 10:11 | 2235665 eddiebe
Thu, 03/08/2012 - 10:13 | 2235672 Moneyswirth
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Tomorrow's report will be interpreted as SUPER AWESOME and we will rally into the weekend. 

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 10:14 | 2235676 Shizzmoney
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Love this msnbc header: "Job claims rise, but market stabilizing."

That has to be one of the biggest oxymorons I have ever read.

At least Dylan Ratigan keeps it real on there; he's the only one to keep hammering the fact that real unemployment (U6 number that is often cited by true Patriots like Bernie Sanders and Ron Paul) is around 22%.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 10:18 | 2235697 Moneyswirth
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You lost me at "true Patriots like Bernie Sanders..."

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 12:34 | 2236263 djsmps
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And the CNBC headline is:

Jobless Claims Move Higher, but Outlook Stays Positive
Thu, 03/08/2012 - 10:14 | 2235679 thepigman
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It's all for the broke banksters, and not for us.


A) Exchange toxic dogshit on your books for free money from Fed and


B) Take free money and pump it into high beta assets.

C) Keep the media constantly alert that EVERYTHING is getting better

and ALL is well.

D) Unload pumped high beta assets on retail chump investors (you

might have to wait a while...they're a dying breed.

E) Wash. Rinse Repeat.





Thu, 03/08/2012 - 10:16 | 2235686 SheepDog-One
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No problem, Draghi just said '0% rates for banks is the new normal, rates will never go back up for banks, its unfair banks should have to deal with pesky 'rates' question'

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 10:20 | 2235701 rsnoble
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Anyone ever get the feeling they're just trying to keep us afloat just long enough to accomplish all their middle east shit?  I don't think they can but who knows they've done a good job so far.  Don't get me wrong I know we're sinking and you know we're sinking..........but a lot of other people don't.  It's all a fucking joke.  This entire planet is a fucking joke. I like George Carlin's comment something to the effect "when the time comes planet Earth will shake us off it like a bad case of fleas".

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 10:23 | 2235709 kito
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The good news is the u.s. hasn't lost any jobs in the past twelve years. The number of people in the labor force in 2012 is the same as it was in the year 2000.......what's that you say?....there has been population growth over the past decade plus???.....repeat after me.....8.3 percent unemployment......8.3 percent are getting sleepy.....8.3 percent unemployment..........

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 11:15 | 2235881 Dapper Dan
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I belive we have added 30 million people in that 12 yr time frame.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 11:03 | 2235848 Blue Horshoe Lo...
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How is there anyone left to fire?

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 11:18 | 2235892 casper007
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ONLY idiots believe these numbers any way, nothing is getting better only the BS on CNBC is getting better

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 11:48 | 2236041 Antifaschistische
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When unemployment is 100% -- Initial Jobless Claims will be ZERO

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 12:27 | 2236219 Printfaster
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What I really don't understand is why the Fed and the federal government even need the banks.

Just lend it out directly to the public at 0% and cut out the middleman?  Run loan programs like treasury direct.  You apply to the government for money and they lend it to you at 0%.  If you think that banks exist to control the access to poor credit risks, think again.  Think Fannie and Freddie.

And who collects better from unpaid debt.  Look at student loans.  The feds keep the debt on books even if you are dead.

It does seem that the whole financial system exists simply to keep bankers employed.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 12:51 | 2236346 Madrid2020
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Not to worry the networks will spin this as a "temporary blip", it's an election year afterall. Expect 8.1% tomorrow w/all media outlets opening their broadcast celebrating the "Obama recovery". 


Thu, 03/08/2012 - 12:53 | 2236347 Madrid2020
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Not to worry the networks will spin this as a "temporary blip", it's an election year afterall. Expect 8.1% tomorrow w/all media outlets opening their broadcast celebrating,yet more evidence of the "Obama recovery". 


Thu, 03/08/2012 - 13:07 | 2236404 justsayin2u
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All you anti-americans need to get out and start buyin stuff now!! Jess don't buy any of that foreign made stuff.  Back up the truck and buy some stocks too - they're about to go through the roof when Benny lights that QE3 candle baby.  This train's a comin!

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