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Inside The Student Loan Debt Bubble

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We have long discussed the rapid rotation of credit growth from housing and credit card to auto loans and now student debt as the US is not deleveraging in reality at all. A recent report from the Kanasas City Fed notes that in the last 7 years, student loan debt has grown at a staggering 13.9% annual rate. This rise in debt has been accompanied by a notable rise in the percentage of delinquencies (over 10.5% and 8.8% over 120 days past due) as the complex web of the student loan market structure strangles hope for many willing learners. The clear message is that student loans present problems for some borrowers, though, at the same time, the analysis suggests that student loans do not yet impose a significant burden on society from their fiscal impact - even though rather stunningly the Federal government is now 93% of the market. We would add that high student loan debt and its associated payment burdens have left many wondering if the value of a college education outweighs the costs - especially as we note that less than 40% of borrowers are under 30 and more than a third still owe in their 40s.

The 'simple' market structure of the student-loan business - though we note at its root, 93% of loans are funded by the Federal government...

 

As the crisis hit in 2007, so the rate of enrollment rose notably and has accelerated...

 

and at the same time, delinquencies have surged...

 

Full report here:

rwp 12-05

 


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Wed, 09/12/2012 - 14:08 | Link to Comment vmromk
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Keep blowing those bubbles Ben !

You motherless piece of dog shit.

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 14:12 | Link to Comment Ruffcut
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Is it benny's fault or kids with parents thinking they are entitled to go away for college and rack up thousands of debt.

Partying is over and the fat lady is singing in b flat.

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 14:20 | Link to Comment LMAOLORI
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Logic I like that no one twisted their arms to sign on the dotted line.  And before all the people come along saying they should be forgiven the debt remember it's your children and grandchildren who have to pay that off with interest.

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 14:30 | Link to Comment Ahmeexnal
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"education" should be called what it really is: serfducation.

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 14:56 | Link to Comment Sauk Leader
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Where is the block on the flow chart that shows all the money flowing into the American Federation of Teachers?  

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 15:51 | Link to Comment economics9698
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On line learning will blow this bubble out in the near future.  And all the for profits with it.

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 17:57 | Link to Comment soccerballtux
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don't forget that you can only get counted delinquent if you actually made a payment to begin with.

If you graduate, can't find a job, and can't make a payment, you don't fall into the "delinquent" category.

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 20:11 | Link to Comment Vampyroteuthis ...
Wed, 09/12/2012 - 15:55 | Link to Comment Peter Pan
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College and university education has become the great enslaver in many ways. A great mass of graduates is not only over burdened with debt but is also unemployed. In addition those with Phd's and university degrees are more than often bought by vested interests to produce work justifying the position of the top .1%. Finally, the colleges are often churning out sub standard graduates or graduates in disciplines that are either already in over supply or courses which are totally airy fairy.

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 16:11 | Link to Comment Diogenes
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It's even worse than it looks. A whole generation has a choice, start out in life $100,000 in the hole or forego a college degree and with it any chance of a decent job.

Those who get the degree and the debt are then competing for a limited number of decent jobs - the result being low pay and long hours for those "lucky" enough to get a job.

How are they supposed to buy a car, furniture, a house, get married, start a family? They can't. Whatever they might have contributed to growing the economy now goes to servicing their debt.

So how is the economy supposed to recover with an older generation bowing out and a younger generation unable to afford to take their place?

Looks like the depression will last a long, long time. Or until all debts are wiped out by hyperinflation.

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 16:20 | Link to Comment pursueliberty
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BS.

Local CC has a two year RN program that actually takes three.  Total cost of books and classes is around $15k.  You will make that if you are agressive in your first three months out.

Better one for you.  E&I school down the road is around the same price.  Recent graduates are making the cost of schooling in as little as two months.  I know a guy who was logging in 60 hours a week at $25/hr doing nat. gas work in texas.  He quite because of his marriage and took a stable plant job that doesn't have OT every week.

I graduated as a RN in 05, I had a job two months before graduation.  Not sure if it is still that way, but I've never competed for a job.  I no longer work in the field, but I still see jobs posted for RN's in the paper everyday.

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 16:39 | Link to Comment JohnKozac
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RN's and PT's are solid. Good job demand since the health care industry is pretty powerful (and wealthy). My neigbor's in-law is finishing nursing school down under and already has a job lined up (Houston, I think?) for a decent salary. The really good thing about RNs is that they can put in extra time (overtime on weekends esp) and make more then 2x their normal hourly wage. The work is hard (my sister is a nurse) but if you are willing to work (and SAVE) you can do very well.

 

As pursueliberty says, there are still many opportunities for those willing to work.

Unfortunately, too many youngsters look at education as Partee Time.

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 22:08 | Link to Comment goldfish1
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collegeisascam.com

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 22:28 | Link to Comment A Nanny Moose
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Medical field works right up until medicare blows. G/L with this

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 14:46 | Link to Comment kridkrid
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It goes beyond just the cost of education, however. The college debt bubble does not exist without the mother of all bubbles, our monetary system itself. Like all Ponzi schemes, everything seems fine on the way up. We didn't really feel the college debt bubble because we could, in a sense, find shelter in the larger bubble... in the form of a job that paid well enough to survive and pay off the debt. Never mind the fact that perhaps that job was at some debt riddled dot.com... While we took on a mortgage for some house that was twice the size we needed.

Of course, everything mentioned above is the American Dream, no? Go to college, buy a home, work for some edgy start up. All of it marketed to us by those who collect interest. Same scam, different suckers.

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 14:46 | Link to Comment Watauga
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How does Obama get off the hook for this?  He panders to the 18 yr old voter, buying his vote with promises of free education for all. 

In the end, the taxpayer will get reamed on this deal, as usual.  It is, ultimately, simple wealth redistribution.

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 18:51 | Link to Comment ersatzteil
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That and this whole notion that "everyone deserves to go to university". I think everyone should be given the chance, but why not champion mechanics, carpenters, electricians, etc, as well?

"Dad, I'm marrying a mechanic. He enjoys what he does and holds a useful skill." > "Dad, I'm marrying a barista, but he has two psychology degrees and he's working on his MBA!" (+ massively in debt)

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 15:05 | Link to Comment Let them all fail
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Its kinda the safe option, like going with the big brand-name partner, "no-one ever got fired for....."  Its tough for parents to tell their kids don't go to college if they want to have "career-type jobs" and its even harder for 17-year old kids to understand the dynamics of it all when they see all their friends going to college. Plus, don't forget employers, being the creative type they are, like to see that college education, even if all you really did was get drunk for four years and learn nothing, they don't seem to make a distinction there.

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 14:14 | Link to Comment Mark Carney
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Well, somebody gotta buy that new iShit 5.

 

Apple Cult=Heaven's Gate

You know if Jobs told the fan boys to shoot eachother they would.

 

 

**also just talked to colleague at work, first thing he said was "eh, you see new iShit release, it has bigger screen!"

FML

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 14:09 | Link to Comment Debeachesand Je...
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Uncle Ben,please>please buy my childrens student loans so I can sell my house and move to Montana and buy a ranch.Pleaseeeeeeeeeeee.

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 14:13 | Link to Comment pragmatic hobo
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if bernanke has his way the student debt will be worth less than penny on the dollar in ten years time and most will be able to pay if off because minimum wage will be around $40/hr and gallon of gasoline will be around $20/gallon as DOW hits 36000.

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 14:12 | Link to Comment xtop23
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Difficult to pay back that degree in underwater flower arrangement when the only job you can find is surfin' burgers at Mickey D's.

They've done a really marvelous job.

Thank God I was born when opportunities were still plentiful and I had the sense to take advantage while they were.

Because our upcoming generations are well and truly screwed.

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 14:41 | Link to Comment SheepleLOVEched...
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tell us something that we dont know.....

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 14:13 | Link to Comment Seasmoke
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Ben just blowing bigger bubbles than Alans bubbles

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 14:13 | Link to Comment lunaticfringe
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Like carnival hucksters, the bankers and their lackeys have now priced college degrees beyond that point where the juice is worth the squeeze. It takes no degree to sign up for government disability. This is a far better return on your capital not to mention your tiime.

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 14:19 | Link to Comment kaiserhoff
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The Chicago Teachers are now on strike and the Jew York media are ignoring all the relevant data.

Average pay $71,000 plus princely benefits

Work Load - about half the days in the year

Competence required - You gotta be kidding. 

FIRE THE PHAT PHUCKS

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 14:54 | Link to Comment larz
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Unions - how do you think obama got elected - he is from this illinois cesspool whats your excuse in Schumer? and that pervert emailing photos of his junk?

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 14:18 | Link to Comment benkei54
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Impossible to discharge in bankrupcty, these debts will follow people for their entire lives.  Leaving aside the notion of creating modern serfs, have the genius economists considered what such a burden will do to the holy grail of aggregate demand for worthless shit?   The debt slaves will be unable to consume for many decades. 

 

Job growth for collection agencies though - see Sunday NYT.

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 14:23 | Link to Comment kaiserhoff
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And disqualify the VICTIM for many federal benefits, more or less forever, unlike a felony murder conviction which will be ancient history in seven or eight years....,  If I'd only shot my ex back when I reeeeealy wanted to....

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 14:30 | Link to Comment Henry Chinaski
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No, exactly the opposite.  The social costs will be too high. Intentionally.   There will be a student loan bailout. The end game will be a universal national higher education entitlement with a corresponding deduction from every paycheck like social security or medicare.

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 14:42 | Link to Comment dwdollar
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That would be the only reason to bail out student loans. That is, to make it a new tax and screw everyone a little more. Anyone who thinks Uncle Scam will just pay them off without bending everyone over is dreaming.

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 14:26 | Link to Comment JamesBond
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spot on analysis

 

jb

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 15:26 | Link to Comment JuliaS
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Lincoln freed the slaves. Now Lincolns are used to enslave.

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 14:18 | Link to Comment schatzi
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Those new shiny iPhones aren't going to buy themselves!

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 14:19 | Link to Comment Jason T
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Getting deep into debt in the US today is like getting caught up in the rip tide caused the the Fed's Jetty building they think can prevent the tide from going out.

Dont' get caught in the rip tide.

Get out in the county and become self sufficient which is akin to simply being on the shore

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 14:33 | Link to Comment dwdollar
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No place to run, no place to hide... and even if there was, most people wouldn't have the resources to get there. We're talking about debt slaves here.

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 16:41 | Link to Comment FoeHammer
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It's too late for most of us. Years of indoctrination served up by public schools, parents and society created the framework in which I made my decison to go to college. Oops.

 

It's hard to tell folks not to go to college because, for years, they have been told by everyone else to go to college. I doubt many high schoolers run an NPV analysis or even a simple cost/benefit analysis in order to make the decision to go or not. 

The mentality is "Put it on the tab. I'll use all that hope and change to get a job later on.".

 

PS. Looking for Junior analyst level work at an Austrian minded investment firm.

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 20:54 | Link to Comment Pants McPants
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Location? I'm of the austrian mindset & looking to get out of fortune 500 land.

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 14:19 | Link to Comment sangell
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I am Phoenix and I got a degree in Pay Day Loan lending and I"m doing great.

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 14:28 | Link to Comment kaiserhoff
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Well done, sangell.  Just be careful repoing those drug mobiles down in Old Mehico.  ZIRP FOREVAH!  Ribba, ribba, ribba

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 14:37 | Link to Comment LMAOLORI
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LOL funny I hope you meant that sarcastically anyway. Pay Day Loan Lending is amongst the most egregious forms of predatory lending. But then again no one forces people to take the loan however our govt. should not then be collecting for them either.

The Trouble With Democrats

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American Usury

 

One of the fundamental issues that party managers wished to avoid was the scandal of American usury. Usury is the ancient sin of charging inflated interest rates sure to ruin the borrowers. It is considered immoral by Judaism, Christianity and Islam because usury involves the powerful using their wealth to ensnare weak and defenseless borrowers. The classic usurer offers an impossible choice that debtors cannot easily refuse. If they reject the terms of the loan, they will not be able to pay the rent or buy necessities. If they accept the usurious interest rates, their debts will accumulate until they are bankrupted (at which point the creditors claim their property). No civilized society can endure in such conditions.

Usury used to be illegal in the United States but it was "decriminalized" in 1980--the dawn of financial deregulation. A Democratic president and Congress repealed all interest-rate controls and the federal law prohibiting usury. Thirty years later, American society is permeated with usurious practices--credit cards charging 30 percent and higher, subprime mortgages and other forms of predatory lending, the notorious "payday" loans that charge desperate working people an effective interest rate of 500 percent or more. Businesses, especially smaller firms, are also prey to usury in less direct ways.

 

in full

http://www.thenation.com/article/trouble-democrats?page=full

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 15:01 | Link to Comment potlatch
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I am Phoenix and I got a degree in corrections and I'm doing great.  Now my kids are gonna have a better future, in either corrections or if they study hard, pay day lending

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 22:31 | Link to Comment A Nanny Moose
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Which is more difficult...the spontaneous combustion, or rising from your ashes?

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 14:26 | Link to Comment Hyper Entropy
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I am so happy I bit the bullet and payed off my student loans in 5 years. It feels great. Debt you cannot discharge is indentured servitude, make no mistake about it.

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 16:30 | Link to Comment Mr.Bigfoot
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I'm a physician, graduated 6 years ago, still 6 figures in debt. I'm an indentured servant, slave to my debt.

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 17:31 | Link to Comment grid-b-gone
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My kid just paid off his loans before the first payment was to kick in next month. He commuted after one year of dorm life, worked two P/T jobs as much as possible during school, and lived at home post-graduation.

He has no spring break pictures to show for his college years, and no loan money ever bought a pizza, but he owns a car outright, has a 4-yr engineering degree, and now, zero debt. 

It was a personal, spartan sacrifice, and his bank account is wiped out, but he is free to make the most of the rest of his life. 

 

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 20:58 | Link to Comment Pants McPants
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Great story, thanks for sharing. You must be proud...sounds like you raised him right.

World could use a few (billion) more like-minded folks.

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 03:00 | Link to Comment ceedub
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Must be nice to have parents that can support you huh?

Also I doubt the validity of the story.  A engineering degree and a wiped out bank account from living at home?  Was his school that bad as to not require internships/coops?

I have friends that lived at home while studying engineering and they graduated with 20k in the bank. If school was more than 20k plus all that money from working two part time jobs, YOU'RE DOING IT WRONG.

 

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 14:37 | Link to Comment centerline
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Bubble after bubble.  The machine needs debt.  Got to feed the machine.

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 14:58 | Link to Comment q99x2
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The FED has to give the middle classes money to someone to by that Chinese junk. It mayswell be students. YeeeHaaa.

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 15:05 | Link to Comment potlatch
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PS to Yeehaw:

 

"students" are traditionally a sector of the "middle class" you speak of: they are, traditionally, middle class in the making.  We are speaking of the bubble and illusory nature of said "moddle class."  There is no "money from the middle class."  It is all a bubble now.  The middle class are so overloaded with tax breaks, credit offers, and prior debt that = stone = no blood.  You need to keep up.  

 

Jeez, tyler needs to stop getting links from Fox nation.

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 15:37 | Link to Comment earleflorida
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'in the beginning...

freddie met fannie...

a beautiful goyim he couldn't resist...

they fell in luv...

a blessed child was born...

they called her sallie- with a query lie at the end of her name...

the mae family became quite wealthy...

but then came the divorce...

broke and homeless were thee...

yet, sallie survived the turmoil...

tho her goyish figure she did lose...

she became bloated and obese...

where naught a sleight of eye, would a courtier seek...

as with her parents, freddie and fannie- sallie became unraveled...

the mae's forever penniless and downtrodden'd- now having lost all their health, where wealth once thought was all that was needed...

body's length broken- spirit and mentality now straddling a sewer- on a lower k street most try to ignore...

with but a whisper- were soon to be buried- a poorhouse graveyard in a strangers backyard...

all three on top of each other...

in a heartless corner...

in a town some call DCease...' 

 

Good nite Sallie Mae, and may you rest in peace, when money begets all evil from even the meek?

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 16:15 | Link to Comment JuliaS
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Education used to be the ticket out of the lower class into the middle class. Nowdays it's the ticket out of the middle class via debt into the lower class. High class stays where it's always been, in an isolated cesspool atop Mount Olympus.

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 23:27 | Link to Comment Radical Marijuana
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Inside of a global Ponzi scheme, the poorer and younger you are, the worse that is for you! One of the many ways that our society is committing suicide is spending an order of magnitude more money on old people, rather than young people. We make young people pay for old people, more and more, as just another Bizarro Mirror World manifestation of the facts that everything is backwards in a society controlled by the Fraud Kings.

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 16:01 | Link to Comment Meesohaawnee
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Kaiserhoff...Your anger should be directed at bankers no?  I  live there and you know what. I wish they can get every penny they can. King idiot handed out 220 mil in tax breaks to sears and the CME faster than Kim Kardashian's panties going down at a Chipendale show. and hes gonna fight one of the most valuable resources known to man. Of course your view points are probably a reflection of the corp/government owned trib. And on that note. The now market to the IQ of 2 Chicago Tribune on the front page told us what Derrek Rose thought of the strike on twitter. Really, thats how low we have gotten in the MSM. Im suppose to listen to what a barely high school educated kid from the South Side who cheated his way to Memphis and now is gonna have a baby out of wedlock ( i dont think hes married?) Yea Derrick. Stick to basketball and leave societies issue to people with edumacations.. Shame on you Trib

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 16:00 | Link to Comment Logikal1
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So.... how do I make money when this bubble pops?

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 16:11 | Link to Comment Sweetbread
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Call Fabulous Fab at once. Get him to package some choice Sallie Mae's for you to short...

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 16:04 | Link to Comment Apocalicious
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The average senior graduates with over $4,000 of credit card debt as well. Underclassman even have a 4-figure balance on average for the first time ever.

I can't figure out where that next generation of household formation is going to come from. Immigration?

 

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 16:31 | Link to Comment A Dutch on Meth
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Free education should be prefered over mortgage interest tax reductions.

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 18:05 | Link to Comment LMAOLORI
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Too much Meth nothing is free - someone pays for it.

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 19:21 | Link to Comment ersatzteil
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Finished my MS a couple years ago, been working in entertainment ever since (my degree is rather...specialized). Barely covering the principal on my portion of the bubble, but I'm luckier than most: I have a job, I have a job in my industry, and I can buy gas in Tijuana. And I have a job.

The mentality I have seen amongst my colleagues is that a Master's is the "new" Bachelor's. Also, many see how scary job prospects are, and would rather "put off" that daunting first-job-out-of-college for later. Plus they make it so damn easy to take out a six-figure loan that includes a "stipend" like Apocalicious mentioned.

Maybe everyone is just waiting for the bubble to pop so SLABS can be purchased by American tax payers a-la-toxic MBS...and they'll find ways to "foreclose" on debtors' degrees, then auction them off at below-market prices, to be sold to Americans at above-market value.

 

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 20:32 | Link to Comment dolph9
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I was lucky enough to get out of "schooling" well before this.  I do feel for those with debt.

But, in the end, it won't be payed off.  Just like mortgage debt.  It will be defaulted on or inflated away.

Which is why 90% of my financial worth is in metals until this whole thing comes down.

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 03:35 | Link to Comment AmeliaV
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I am afraid that student debt will only keep on rising , just as other debts as well. But tere are some companies ( like advance loan lenders) that will always benefit from economy crisis. So people are forced to get into a deeper money hole thatn they are in right now. Very sad situation and unfortunately we do not see any improvments no matter who is in charge of our country

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