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Iran Blinks, Delays Vote On European Crude Export Halt Even As US Escalates Military Developments Against Country

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After it was the west backing down from further unnecessary escalation with Iran two weeks ago, when Israel and the US delayed indefinitely joint naval operations in the Arabian Gulf, it is now Iran's turn to blink. Following reports that Iran would pass a law halting crude exports to European countries, in advance of the full-blown embargo expected to take place some time by June, or as soon as European countries have found alternative supplies, we now learn that "Iran's parliament on Sunday postponed the debate over the bill." This is happening just as nuclear inspectors are arriving in the country "to probe allegations of a secret atomic weapons program." Yet does this mean that Iran has just exposed a major weakness that the West will immediately pounce on? It is still unclear - Reuters reports that "Iran's oil minister said on Sunday the Islamic state would soon stop exporting crude to "some" countries, the state news agency IRNA reported." Naturally the vague, open-endedness of this statement makes it quite clear that it was Iran's turn to de-escalate this time around. Or does this simply mean that Iran has been unable to conclude alternative oil trade arrangements with China, Russia and India just yet?

According to Reuters:  "Soon we will cut exporting oil to some countries," Rostam Qasemi was quoted by IRNA as saying."

Yet instead of taking this cue to attempt some additional deescalation in its own part, the US has decided to double down in further belaboring already tense relations.

On one hand, WaPo reported late on Friday that the Navy wants a commando "mothership" in the Middle East, something which Iran will be delighted to hear.

The Pentagon is rushing to send a large floating base for commando teams to the Middle East as tensions rise with Iran, al-Qaeda in Yemen and Somali pirates, among other threats.

 

In response to requests from U.S. Central Command, which oversees military operations in the Middle East, the Navy is converting an aging warship it had planned to decommission into a makeshift staging base for the commandos. Unofficially dubbed a “mothership,” the floating base could accommodate smaller high-speed boats and helicopters commonly used by Navy SEALs, procurement documents show.

 

Lt. Cmdr. Mike Kafka, a spokesman for the Navy’s Fleet Forces Command, declined to elaborate on the floating base’s purpose or to say where, exactly, it will be deployed in the Middle East. Other Navy officials acknowledged that they were moving with unusual haste to complete the conversion and send the mothership to the region by early summer.

 

Navy documents indicate that it could be headed to the Persian Gulf, where Iran has threatened to block the Strait of Hormuz, a crucial shipping route for much of the world’s oil supply. A market survey proposal from the Military Sealift Command, dated Dec. 22 and posted online, states that the floating base needed to be delivered to the Persian Gulf.

 

U.S. military officials declined to say what prompted them to give the Ponce a sudden new lease on life. But contract and bidding documents underscore the urgency of the project.

 

One no-bid contract for engineering work states that the military was waiving normal procurement rules because any delay presented a “national security risk.” Other contract bids are due Feb. 3. The Navy wants the conversion work to begin 10 days later on the Ponce, which is docked in Virginia Beach

Also on Friday, the WSJ reported that the Pentagon seeks a mightier bomb vs Iran, one whose name could have only been inspired by the Adult Entertainment Expo: the "Massive Ordnance Penetrator."

Pentagon war planners have concluded that their largest conventional bomb isn't yet capable of destroying Iran's most heavily fortified underground facilities, and are stepping up efforts to make it more powerful, according to U.S. officials briefed on the plan.

 

The 30,000-pound "bunker-buster" bomb, known as the Massive Ordnance Penetrator, was specifically designed to take out the hardened fortifications built by Iran and North Korea to cloak their nuclear programs.

 

But initial tests indicated that the bomb, as currently configured, wouldn't be capable of destroying some of Iran's facilities, either because of their depth or because Tehran has added new fortifications to protect them.

 

Doubts about the MOP's effectiveness prompted the Pentagon this month to secretly submit a request to Congress for funding to enhance the bomb's ability to penetrate deeper into rock, concrete and steel before exploding, the officials said.

 

The push to boost the power of the MOP is part of stepped-up contingency planning for a possible strike against Iran's nuclear program, say U.S. officials.

Alas, in light of these two additional escalating developments, we are rather confident that Iran's latest gambit to show a modicum of goodwill behind the scenes will soon be extinguished.

 

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Sun, 01/29/2012 - 14:32 | 2107524 Eclipse89
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oil bitchez.

Sun, 01/29/2012 - 14:35 | 2107537 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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Iran's a bunch of bitchez.

Sun, 01/29/2012 - 14:38 | 2107549 1fortheroad
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"Massive Ordnance Penetrator." bitchez

Sun, 01/29/2012 - 14:47 | 2107585 Manthong
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No wonder those mullahs wear dresses.

Sun, 01/29/2012 - 15:14 | 2107676 Ahmeexnal
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iRan figured out what would happen. iRan shuts the oil spigot to ooooro-zone. Saudi Arabia picks up the tab.  "How is this possible??" the peak-oil f-tards scream?  Easy: Saudi Arabia buys discounted oil from iRan, then turns around and sells it to the ooooro-zone with a nice profit.

Sun, 01/29/2012 - 15:22 | 2107694 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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Peak oil f tards....

We have already established your logic is if A then not B.

If A......"the elite support peak oil theory"...which is total bullshit by the way, there is no news on peak oil in the MSM.

Then not B...."so since I don't agree with the elite, peak oil theory is not true."

Fatsexual, you write fallacies.  It will be best if you shut the fuck up.

Sun, 01/29/2012 - 16:53 | 2107912 Transformer
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Peak oil is like a self fulfilling prophecy.  As long as we believe, and the oil companies believe it, it will probably work out tht way.  On the other hand, the Russians don't believe it and they have an entirely different theory, called "Abiotic Oil", which simply means that oil doesn't come from dead dinosaurs and plant material, it is made deep down in the earth's mantle.

The lowest any biological material has ever been found is 16,000 feet.  The Russians drill as deep as 42,000 feet for their oil.  And their theory has made them the world's number one producer.  Can't argue with success.

Sun, 01/29/2012 - 17:10 | 2107948 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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You are wrong.  Russians are using reindeer piss.  The EROEI is poor though, which is why Russia needs oil above $100pb.

And please feel free to let the world know you have solved peak oil.  You can post your research here:

http://theoildrum.com/

Sun, 01/29/2012 - 20:36 | 2108275 caconhma
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Don't forget that ayatollahs are running Iran. These people are illiterate POS without any clue about running either domestic or international affairs.

·        After all, Iran has no friends. Neither Russia nor China are their friends. They are just Iran’s customers.

·        Remember that Iran was welcoming the American invasions into Iraq and Libya

·        Iranian economy is a jock

·        Iranian security apparatus is only capable of beating up their own dissidents but totally incapable of protecting their top scientists and military installations

·        As for Iranian military, their war with Iraq revealed their WW I military capabilities.

If Iran will play Qaddafi games blinking under pressure, it will be destroyed in no time. Only clear indication by Iran to fight back and inflict severe damage on major EU population centers as well as on Israel and Saudi will stop NATO and Israel.

 

 

Sun, 01/29/2012 - 17:13 | 2107950 CrashisOptimistic
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You don't have very much knowledge about this matter.  You came across some comment in a website and read an article by someone with no degree in geology or physics and you thought it was truth.

The Russians do not have "an entirely different theory".  A couple of Russians published an article speculating on abiotic oil.  The article and authors were dismissed by Russian geologists and global geologists, and it was dismissed by the Russian oil companies.  

They do not drill and produce oil using an abiotic model.  They drill and produce oil from conventional structures underground found with seismic studies.

The Bakken oil field last year produced a lot of oil.  There is great excitement about it.  There is also mathematics.  The amount of oil it produced was roughly equal to 1/2 the oil produced by the state of Oklahoma in 1927.  It was 1/5th the amount of oil produced by the state of Alaska in 1988.

Oklahoma's oil production is presently down 75% from its 1927 production.  That's 80+ years of technology improvement that did not stop the decline, and 80+ years for abiotic sources to refill those empty fields, and it has not happened.  

Nor will it. 

 

Sun, 01/29/2012 - 21:10 | 2108312 Transformer
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I love it.  Everything you've ever been taught is wrong, my friend.  Check out the origins of the dinosaur theory, before dissing what the Russians are doing.  Peak oil is real, and it is real because the whole industry, except for the Russians, think like you do.  Of course those fields are producing less, of course the new finds are smaller.  No argument.  The Russians have a different theory, and they don't mind being the world's number 1 producer.  they gave up long ago trying to convince the West.

Don't you think if somebody is in first place, someone should be interested in how they got there?  The BP oil spill in the Gulf, our Gulf, is a prime example.  They drilled deep, down to Abiotic levels and discovered a huge pool of oil, but at temperatures and pressures that they did not know how to handle.  The Russians offered to come and fix it for us, but nope, that aint allowed.  Figure it out.

 

Many Russian geologists and petroleum researchers credit the rise of Russia over the past 50 years as the largest producer of oil and second largest producer of natural gas in the world to the successful application of the abiogenic theory of oil and gas formation. The Russians claim to have successfully drilled over 300 ultra deep (around 40,000feet) oil and gas wells through granite and basalt based on this theory. These claims have been questioned by Western geologists and petroleum engineers.

 

The most recent attempt at gaining credence for the abiogenic idea was only a few months ago. A research team at the Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm, Sweden, led by Vladimir Kutherov, demonstrated that animal and plant fossils are not necessary for producing oil and natural gas. The team simulated the thermal and pressure processes that occur in the inner layers of the earth to generate hydrocarbons, the chief component of oil and natural gas. The team also noted that oil and gas has been found 7 miles below ground in Texas and fossil oil and gas could not, via, gravity have seeped down to such depths.

 

It aint a few Russians, it was their whole science department who came up with the theory, not just a couple misfits.  The Russians actually come up with new science every now and then, contrary to what our history tells us.

http://freeenergynews.com/Directory/Theory/SustainableOil/

http://seekingalpha.com/instablog/400230-vinod-dar/47079-abiotic-oil-and...

http://www.rense.com/general58/biot.htm

Sun, 01/29/2012 - 22:30 | 2108421 Haole
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This is just one of the travesties of manipulated "knowledge" being inflicted on the world through so-called mainstream education and science.

Props to you for trying to spread a little truth.  Just try and get the average petroleum geologist to proclaim that Macondo wasn't venting at thousands of psi over ambient water pressure because the rotten lizards and palm trees were extra ripe... ;) 

 

Sun, 01/29/2012 - 22:46 | 2108438 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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Once again, please share your sources with people who know.

http://theoildrum.com/

Sun, 01/29/2012 - 23:04 | 2108478 Transformer
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Hey 8 Ball, this aint The Oil Drum.  This is Zero Hedge, where bullshit doesn't walk, or talk, or even slither along.  Quote your authorites all you wish.  We. . .  are asking you. . . . to think for yourself.  It's kinda the prime directive here. 

"Hmmm, that team over there, have just surpassed the Saudis, when everybody knew that the Saudis had, by far, the most oil on the planet.  I wonder how they did it?"

That is the proper attitude.

Sun, 01/29/2012 - 23:46 | 2108550 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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Its not like Russia is producing more than they did in '89.  And I am just pointing out that there is no creditable evidence for abiotic oil anywhere, and if you think you have some share it with the pros.  It's like when someone brings bullshit financial story to this site and they get called out.  If you talk about abiotic oil on the oil drum you will get laughed off.

And since you using names your mom used mine last night a few times.

Mon, 01/30/2012 - 02:12 | 2108776 Transformer
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You mean a bullshit financial story like Iraq, Libya, and Iran didn't sell oil for Euros, they just sell it in dollars and then convert it down at the bank or the currency exchange place on the mall.  Ha

And as far as Abiotic oil goes.  Hmmm, the world's number one producer says they used this theory to become #1.  That's not credible or even a little bit interesting?  And Russian Geologists are not credible?  why?  Because they're Russian, and everyone knows all the good science comes from the West?  If the dinosaur theory was true, then where did that deep deep oil that BP botched up in the Gulf Of Mexico come from?

You see, here is all this evidence staring you in the face.  There is a ton more of it on the net.  Now that still doesn't prove anything, (300 wells to below 40,000' is what proves something) but you'd think a person such as yourself who calls himself Lennon Hendrix would maybe just scratch his head and wonder a little bit.  But no, if the authorities that are in vogue don't agree, then you can't even think about it.

So it comes down to either you are a troll or a sheeple or pretty stupid.  This is why we are where we are today.  You got to wake up.   And waking up means questioning things, especially when there's a really good reason to question.  Don't buy what the authorities tell you.  They are usually wrong.  When a big authority tells you something, there's usually a socio-political-financial reason for it, like. . . .for example. . . . Global Warming.  Just like Peak Oil, it's a theory that will change civilization forever.  And both of them mean that the common people are spose to go without, reduce, use less, have a lower standard of living.  When somebody tells you that, you should question it, just a little, and maybe a whole lot.

You do not need an authority to tell you how the world works.  In fact, you should be suspicious when they do. 

Mon, 01/30/2012 - 09:16 | 2109124 Jack Napier
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Thx for those links. I'm more concerned about peak silver. Nobody's going to be doing nuclear fusion anytime soon, I don't think. Bullish on diapers and TP for when all the kiddiez can't buy their max-iPads when silver runs out. That makes me bullish on fiat currency too, due to the TP demand.

Sun, 01/29/2012 - 23:34 | 2108523 Haole
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Using theoildrum as a source is funny.

Sun, 01/29/2012 - 23:46 | 2108552 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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using rense as a source is funnier.

Sun, 01/29/2012 - 23:55 | 2108574 Vic Vinegar
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Can't green you enough for that one.  It's a fine line between being awake and being a lunatic.  Rense is a lunatic.

Mon, 01/30/2012 - 03:32 | 2108837 Transformer
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Oh I get it, one of my links was to Rense, whatever that is.  It's a Richard Heihberg essay.  He's a majore proponent of Peak oil. Wrote a very popular book

Mon, 01/30/2012 - 09:16 | 2109128 Jack Napier
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People usually give me shit for using ZH as a source. Go figure.

Mon, 01/30/2012 - 09:29 | 2109174 Disenchanted
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Rense may be a lunatic, but I found this pic at the top of his site today to be rather amusing...and accurate:

 

http://www.rense.com/1.imagesH/votemachinesplash.jpg

 

Not to mention the links posted at his site daily from sources around the world can be rather informative at times. Much more informative than anything I can get from turning on the idiot box here in the good ol US of A.

 

Does Rense and his website often gore one of your particular oxen, and that's why you declare him a lunatic with no explanation?

Sun, 01/29/2012 - 23:07 | 2108481 Tuco Benedicto ...
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I got a cab ride from a petroleum engineer college student a few months back.  He seemed like a very intelligent middle eastern type but he had never heard of "abiotic oil".  Isn't our educational system great!?  Geez!

Sun, 01/29/2012 - 23:48 | 2108554 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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Yup.  But some dude on a blog that listened to rense knows what all geologists do not.  Unicorn piss can power cars!

Mon, 01/30/2012 - 02:30 | 2108797 Transformer
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WTF is Rense?

Sun, 01/29/2012 - 23:03 | 2108477 Tuco Benedicto ...
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Bingo Transformer!!!!!!!

Mon, 01/30/2012 - 05:50 | 2108911 tired1
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For me, the fact that helium and other noble gases are recovered from natural gas is indicative of the abiotic process.

Moreover, these days, pretty much anything that in the past I casually dismissed as kook or conspiracy theory I am re evaluating. I have come to realize that much of my 'knowlege' or the world is a least suspect.

Sun, 01/29/2012 - 15:30 | 2107729 Divine Wind
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Ding Ding Ding Ding Ding Ding

We have a winner!

Sun, 01/29/2012 - 15:39 | 2107754 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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Iran doesn't like the House of Saud.  They wouldn't sell them oil at a discount.

Sun, 01/29/2012 - 16:43 | 2107889 quintago
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Don't worry, inside one month's time, Iran will announce that it is halting all nuclear enrichment until around the time the presidential election has taken place. They are not the irrational actors they are portrayed to be. They know exactly what they are doing, and the more aggression the US shows, the more it solidifies the people behind the ruling mullahs. Unfortunately this is EXACTLY what we don't want, and what the Israelis want - an isolated Iran.

China needs Iran to for the resurrection of the Silk Road, so while China didn't bat much of an eye when disturbances and uprisings took place elsewhere in the ME, Iran is a different story for them. They don't need the rest, as long as they ensure they have Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iran, and Turkey. Turkey's ok, AfPak will be clear of US influence in a few years, and Israel will just need to gamble a bit to see how far it can push the envelope. The Russians are waiting in their Syrian naval base for a disturbance in Iran.

Sun, 01/29/2012 - 15:57 | 2107794 falak pema
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You must have smoked Afghan opium. An Ayatollah shill is more a representative of Shaitan in the eyes of a Saudi luddite, wahabbite freak of sunnite rabid streak, who runs naked to the Kabbah and does his Roza, when he hears the name of a shiite deviationist proposing to him haram oil at discount. You want him to die on Viagra's unholy thrills for having defied Allah by bowing to an Ayatollah, similar in name and religious shame as Orthodox schismatic clown in the eyes of latinist Papist zealot; ready to kill the bug of heretic disease in reformist and orthodox christian lands over four centuries; like Arnaud Amaury before Bezier's walls, shouting "kill em all", or 4th Crusaders spreading God's word in COnstantinople for the benefit of Venice's OLigarchs....History repeats, and a 800 hundred year span is a grain of sand...when it comes to extolling eternal God. 

Its like pretending today that Exxon organises Venezualan oil sales at discount to USA...imagine that! It would give GWB nightmares and Hugo Chavez another cancerous remission. Not on...its heresy to pax americana, imperial construct; like shiite collusion is to wahabbite ideology.

An erudite illuminary is alleged to have said : If you allow people to lie all the time, they finish by becoming naked to all in their illusionary concoction. If only the Oligarchs could remember that...instead of inventing lies, damn lies...

Sun, 01/29/2012 - 16:17 | 2107847 Hobbleknee
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Good call, actually.

Sun, 01/29/2012 - 16:59 | 2107921 Uncle Remus
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I'll buy that for a petrodollar.

Sun, 01/29/2012 - 20:02 | 2108235 Debeachesand Je...
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Wouldn't be the first time two foes in the ME did some back door trading.

When the Shad ruled Iran,his military was mostly equipped with American hardware.With the advent of the Iraq/Iran War, the mullahs military was fast depleting their American supported parts and looking around to buy replacement parts.

Well, since Israel had plenty of American parts especially for the F4 Phantom jet fighter,Iran contacted Israel by very back channels and were receiving those parts for a hefty price.

And that's how that event became known as the Iran/Contra Scandal.

Sun, 01/29/2012 - 20:24 | 2108256 Ahmeexnal
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You are correct. Backdoor market operations account for more trade than legit ones.

Ah, the venerable F4-E with it's M61 Vulcan.  They don't make them like they used to.

Modern aircraft are crappy as a $2 waffle maker. 

BTW, if anyone has to get on board an A380, they should check their full will and testament is correctly filed:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/sns-rt-us-airbus-a380tre80n1pz-20...

One of those flying WalMarts is bound to drop over a major urban area anytime.

 

Sun, 01/29/2012 - 20:30 | 2108265 knukles
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Hey... Airbus said that the cracks were "normal"
Probably within design and maufacturing specs.

Jesus..

And the planes are just how old?

Sun, 01/29/2012 - 15:19 | 2107685 Oh regional Indian
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C'mon Man-T, this is chess, not billiards. There are permutations and combinations of rehtoric+sabre rattling that will take us to the ides of March again. 

20-25 March, the shift into Aries, the RAM. That is when positions harden enough for people to butt heads. Sure most here are aware of Iraq War launch, Bosina long before that, Libya.... on and on, back in history. Mars, the red planet like to see some blood spilt.

Till then, war games. Nice how they can play us all like marionettes though. I'm agog too, Fleet including aged, 8 reactor carrying Enterprise... powering towards an already huge presence, secret troop build-ups in Yemeni and Omani islands as reported by Debka, USraels on again off again largest ever joint exercise.....

Talk about levers.

ori

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Sun, 01/29/2012 - 15:38 | 2107712 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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Don't glorify this game.  Chess is beyond these idiots.  They are dogs playing poker, and they are all bluffing.  Why?  Because what they bet, the fiat they use to trade, is not worth anything.  He who wins wins nothing.  This is there game:  it is pointless.

The game is to confuse the masses; to mix up the status quo a little, all the while implementing mezmorizing states into the peoples brains.  Fear!  Fear!!!!  Repent!  Repent!!!  Obey!  Obey!!!!  And while this goes on the oilgarchy, the Dinosaur Kings, they drink and wait to ull the rip cord. 

'Cause it's just another day in the life of a goddamn boss!

Sun, 01/29/2012 - 15:40 | 2107756 Oh regional Indian
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But in practice it is chess. Very strategic. The US started raping Iraq in 1991, 12 years of DU softening along the 33rd parallal (yes, the No fly Zone was the 33rd parallel north, go figure), months of slow logistic build up on the Road to Baghdad, Outright PR fabrication a la Wag the Dog with the Kuwaiti Nursery Bayonet stabbing Iraqis.... no mines, no nothing, The famed Republican Guard of Iraq.... abject surrender....wtf???...It's happening like that again, but here it has been encirclement, pincer..... Afghanistan, Pakistan, Libya, now Syria...Nigeria totally destabilized,slowly enough that 95% of the 99% never can hold the story line....no Muslim state worth anything left to Back Iran up.... Only a waffley China and a seemingly resolute SSSR. And An India being played for a fool by being forced to do the Oil for Gold thing with Iran. If that was not some wily move to move both PM market and Oil. see what happened to Gold since that announcement...

It's chess all right. Best to see it for what it is. Not fools, those running the show. Only psychopathically clever.

ori

Sun, 01/29/2012 - 15:53 | 2107785 tiger7905
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There is also the 100,000 troops being moved just offshore to Iran...

 

http://goldandsilverlinings.com/?p=1863

 

 

Sun, 01/29/2012 - 15:59 | 2107804 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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India is NOT trading gold for oil, and there are not 100,000 troops moving to the ME.  Neither of these stories have any sources.  These are like the rumors that DSK was going to jump in on Gaddafi's gold dinar and Saddam was going to trade oil for euros.  None of that is true.

Sun, 01/29/2012 - 17:03 | 2107932 Transformer
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It's those damn lying arabs again.  Imagine the gall, for Hussein to trick us into a war by pretending to sell oil for Euros when he wasn't really doing it.  Qadaffi did the same lying trick plus pretending to set up that gold backed currency in Africa.  That's probably what made Cheney so mad at Hussein.  Cheney did not like liers and Obama doesn't either.

That's enough of playing practical jokes, you lying Arabs!!!

Sun, 01/29/2012 - 17:15 | 2107955 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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Let's make this plain and simple.

Saddam wants euros....so he sells oil for dollars and swaps dollars for euros.

Gaddafi wants gold....he sells oil for dollars and trades dollars for gold.

Why would they risk their regemes and their lives when they could get what they want without jumping through hoops?  They wouldn't.

Sun, 01/29/2012 - 20:32 | 2108263 Ahmeexnal
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You do not understand the importance of scale.

Muad'Dib Gaddafi wanted gold, and you think JPMorgan was going to sell him all the gold he wanted, thus crashing the global banking ponzi?

Let me guess.  You hold no gold.

Ahhh...you're one of Al Gore's fanboys who wear a "peak oil" t-shirt.

So you must be hoarding buckets of premium unleaded for when oil becomes more valuable than gold so you can peddle your oil to those valley girl Hummer owners.

Sun, 01/29/2012 - 21:33 | 2108341 Transformer
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It just amazes me, that every time this subject comes up, some idiot chimes in and says "Iraq, Libya, and Iran do not (did not) sell oil for Euros"  What are they trying to prove, how stupid they are?  There must be some real 8 balls that read ZH.

Sun, 01/29/2012 - 22:52 | 2108455 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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They didn't need to!  All they needed to do was sell oil for dollars and swap dollars for euros!  Holy shit, you guys, you are on a financial blog talking about FX swaps and you are telling me the leaders of these countries were hunted down because they threatened to bypass the use of FX SWAPS!  Holy shit, listen to yourselves!

I feel like writing this over and over again so you can not post such foolish comments.

Why in hell would K-Dawg risk his whole empire when he could sell his oil and then trade the dollars for goldo nthe OPEN MARKET?  Think about it?  There is nothing to gain! 

Why would DSK even consider going behind the back of the Banking Cabal to institute oil for gold?  Why?  Why would.....never mind....just forget it.....

Oil comes from unicorn piss and Saddam was executed because he couldn't figure out how to sell dollars for euros like millions of soccer moms in America do.

Mon, 01/30/2012 - 09:28 | 2109152 Jack Napier
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What you fail to understand, or at least make mention of, is that by selling their oil for dollars they are enabling the US empire's petro-dollar. The point is not just to get gold or Euros, the point is to stop using the US dollar, period. As the world reserve currency, and since most US dollars are held outside the US, a lot of people are pissed off about inflationary policies. ZIRP 2 iNFiNiTY means everybody in the world is looking to get away from the USD. The elite only needed the US at first for currency domination back when it was an industrial powerhouse, and now with a new global currency taking form they don't need the US anymore, and will let it become a 2nd world nation like all the 3rd world nations have already become thanks to globalization.

Sun, 01/29/2012 - 22:59 | 2108467 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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Gaddafi had gold.  So you are saying he risked the gold he had by trying to trade oil for more gold, when he knew that if he tried to start a gold backed currency the West would fuck him up?  That doesn't really sound like him.  He sort of licked licking boots if it meant he could be the ruler of his country.

Once again, your whole Gore schtick is old.  The MSM does not support peak oil.  If anything your flawed logic of "If A then not B" should mean you support peak oil, because the establishment does NOT support peak oil.

Have you ever heard FOX talk about peak oil?  NBC?  No and no.

Why don't you go and discuss peak oil with a group that will laugh you off the blogosphere.  Good luck!!!

http://theoildrum.com/

Sun, 01/29/2012 - 16:01 | 2107811 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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Yes, I understand, the game is long in the tooth.  But the Bonesmen are not clever.  They are schooled smart, sure, but not clever.  Why?  Because the game has no merit.  It is a giant Fiat Ponzi, and when SHTF, they will run like pigs from a gun.  The oilgarchy are a bunch of pansies and if we stood up to them they would fold, which is why this world is so damn pathetic.

They are playing checkers, ORI.

Sun, 01/29/2012 - 21:32 | 2108342 Transformer
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Are you really an 8 ball?  Are you a fugitive from a pool table?  Jeez man, do a little research.

Sun, 01/29/2012 - 22:54 | 2108462 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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Look, my unicorn has to piss and I need to put its dick in my car (because unicorn piss has a higher EROEI than abiotic oil).

Sun, 01/29/2012 - 15:28 | 2107722 Pseudo Anonym
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"Massive Ordnance Penetrator."

with all the obesity these days, that's what one must have

Mon, 01/30/2012 - 00:17 | 2108611 PrintPressPimpin
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hoping to get a new poster of our Floating Fortress we are going to be sending over to eurasia...this just seems to get more and more surreal.. 

Mon, 01/30/2012 - 06:31 | 2108934 Disenchanted
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There's a nice pic here...

 

USS Ponce to Become Spec Ops Mothership

http://defensetech.org/2012/01/28/uss-ponce-to-become-spec-ops-mothership/

 

And just for shits and giggles, check out the urban dictionary definitions for ponce.  I lol'd

 

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Ponce

Sun, 01/29/2012 - 14:47 | 2107583 DoChenRollingBearing
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@ Mr Lennon

Iran's also a bunch of flip floppers!  How about that...  + 1 for you!

I read some years ago that the Pentagon could make a new (sort of) bomb by taking up into space specially shaped tungsten rods.  And then just drop them from 50 miles up.  Tungsten is heavy, hard and would not nelt upon re-entry.  Just the speed of those rods would slice through hundreds of feet of rock and would cause LOTS of damage to underground facilities.  All of this with NO explosives.

Kinetic energy bitchez!

Sun, 01/29/2012 - 14:52 | 2107609 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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Yeah well, there probably is not going to be any of that anytime soon.  It will just be bickering from both sides so to have an excuse to keep oil prices high when in reality it is the elephants in the room, monetary policy and oil supply, that are the real reasons.

Why are oil prices high?  It's Irans fault!!!!!!

-dumb American

Sun, 01/29/2012 - 18:27 | 2108091 Hugh G Rection
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Soo True! Hahahaha, GOYISHE KUP! We play the idiot Goyim like a fiddler on a roof, keep them distracted with pop culture retardation and controlled media, while we send their children to the slaughter and pillage their wealth.  If our Mossad gets caught dancing after blowing up your buildings, we have our highly placed sayanim send them back to us! HAHAHA stupid Goy, now come take care of Iran for us!

- asshole Israeli

Sun, 01/29/2012 - 18:43 | 2108116 Optimusprime
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+1,  Couldn't give you the green arrow, because you started your post with italics! 

We are, I think, beginning to approach a critical mass of minds who have become "Jewise" to the point that the expectable bleatings  about "anti-semitism" fail to play their distraction/misdirection function.  Deal with the huge facts, people.  Don't be distracted by bullshit.

Sun, 01/29/2012 - 19:41 | 2108142 Hugh G Rection
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I think you're right.  I sincerely hope in my lifetime we will see justice brought to the dual citizen traitors that enabled a foreign terrorist network to commit mass murder on our own soil.

 

Once people realize the media has been subverted and they have been lied to, I suspect the impending investigations will make the McCarthy hearings look like childs play.

 

http://wikispooks.com/wiki/9/11:Israel_did_it

Sun, 01/29/2012 - 20:36 | 2108272 Ahmeexnal
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Why are oil prices high?  It's Irans fault!!!!!!

Let me fix that for you:

Why are oil prices high?  It's Bush's fault!!!!

-socialist dumb-0-crat

Sun, 01/29/2012 - 15:19 | 2107690 Ahmeexnal
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DCRB:

True, that tech has been around for -hold on to your hat-....millions of years.

There's one such rod still in the Yucatan peninsula.  One shot created a ELE. 

You'd better pray those Raytheon engineers are sober and that they quadruple check their calcs before launching one of those rods over iRan. 

Sun, 01/29/2012 - 15:20 | 2107691 Gully Foyle
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DoChenRollingBearing

Yeah well Heinlein wrote about rocks fired from the Moon at targets on Earth.

Newt's all up in that shit.


Sun, 01/29/2012 - 17:02 | 2107930 Uncle Remus
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Whoa. Newt can read?

Sun, 01/29/2012 - 17:07 | 2107943 akak
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Yes, I believe that name of that Heinlein book was "The Moon is a Harsh Mistress --- and Newt is her Bitch."

Tue, 01/31/2012 - 17:00 | 2114155 Uncle Remus
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Can I get that on my Kindle?

Sun, 01/29/2012 - 15:54 | 2107787 Desert Irish
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Trying to understand the physics behind that. I believe it was Einstien who calculated that a steel pole stretched from the earths surface to the moon would only need to be tapped an inch to knock the planet out of orbit but that's due to the leverage. In this case you would be restricted by maximum velocity unless they were motorized - it wouldn't matter if you dropped the poles from 1 mile or 50 miles. I'm sure there's someone here with a degree in physics that could expalin it.....

Sun, 01/29/2012 - 17:14 | 2107957 a growing concern
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The estimate ( see Project Thor) is that the rods would be traveling at 9 kilometers per second. That's absolutely devastating if you can get it to hit what you're aiming at.

Sun, 01/29/2012 - 17:11 | 2107951 a growing concern
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Yeah but it's a bitch and a half to fly a telephone pole sized tungsten rod into orbit. I think that's the main logistical constraint. Well that, and there being international prohibitions against the weaponization of space.

Sun, 01/29/2012 - 22:53 | 2108458 Tuco Benedicto ...
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Yes, there are international prohibitions against torture too but that didn't stop former Americans Bush and Cheney did it!

Mon, 01/30/2012 - 01:03 | 2108675 Hugh G Rection
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Hey at least they didn't outsource it to the Chinese...

Mon, 01/30/2012 - 03:51 | 2108847 francis_sawyer
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I read some years ago that the Pentagon could make a new (sort of) bomb by taking up into space specially shaped tungsten rods

"Project Thor" (Rods from God)

oops~just saw above

Sun, 01/29/2012 - 15:46 | 2107773 Silver Bug
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Iran realizes this would economically criple them at the same time.

 

http://silverliberationarmy.blogspot.com/

Sun, 01/29/2012 - 18:22 | 2108080 Hugh G Rection
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Don't give a shit about Iran, but the USA is a bunch of bitches if we continue to fight Israel's wars.  Media-check, banking/finance-check, educational system-check, political appointments- check.... Last hope is the military realizing Mossad and dual citizen traitors on the inside false flagged our ass 10 years ago.

Sun, 01/29/2012 - 20:41 | 2108283 frostfan
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blah blah blah  always Israel.  Yes, I did not forget your overwhelming evidence that Israel was behind 9/11 when you sent me links to why a 300 pound black man died in his 50s, a distorted English translation of what your so called dancing terrorists said on a talk show (cuz you know they say ZOG so often in Israel) and some other sketchy off the wall link that is all innuendo and no connection.  Ten years later, still no names?   This is the same Mossad that couldn't pull off killing Khaled Meshaal and had all their agents on TVs in Abu Dhabi yet somehow they pulled off 9/11 with no names or videos ten years later?

I keep forgetting that every war the US has fought is for Israel like WW1, WW2, Vietnam War, Korean War, Spanish-American War.  Yup we Americans should have known Israel was behind all of them and don't tell me it's not possible since Israel wasn't a state before 1948.  That's a conspiracy.  Israel existed way before then and that's less ridiculous then Mossad behind 911.

Sun, 01/29/2012 - 21:54 | 2108332 Hugh G Rection
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Names?

Urban Moving Systems- Dominic Suter, Paul and Sivan Kurzberg, Yaron Schmuel, Oded Ellner, Omer Marmari.

Investigation into Urban Moving Systems halted by Jane Harman D-CA (dual citizen zionist)

Michael Chertoff released all suspects back to Israel after 2 months (also dual citizen zionist)

Owner of UMS D Suter fled to Israel to avoid FBI questioning.

 

Do me a favor and explain these police transmissions from 9/11? How do you explain a UMS van exploding on King St.?  I suppose it's fake?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aKj6uJ5Mt4

 

Mossad WAS behind 9/11, and your weak straw man defense doesn't hold water.

This is a pretty comprehensive link, I can also give you the link for the 140 pg police report on the "dancing Israelis but I doubt you'd read it.

http://wikispooks.com/wiki/9/11:Israel_did_it

 

This 4 part special report got wiped from Fox News archives... wonder why Rupert didn't like it?

  • Video - Israel spies on the USA part 1
  • Video - Israel spies on the USA part 2
  • Video - Israel spies on the USA part 3
  • Video - Israel spies on the USA part 4
Sun, 01/29/2012 - 21:40 | 2108352 Hugh G Rection
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The US Army disagrees with you concerning Mossad's capabilities.

 

In 2001, an elite US Army study center devised a plan for enforcing a major Israeli-Palestinian peace accord that would require about 20,000 well-armed troops stationed throughout Israel and a newly created Palestinian state. The report attempts to predict events in the first year of a peace-enforcement operation, and sees possible dangers for U.S. troops from both sides. Of the Mossad, the Israeli intelligence service, the US army officers say: "Wildcard. Ruthless and cunning. Has capability to target U.S. forces and make it look like a Palestinian/Arab act."

The amazing thing about this is that this story was reported in the Washington Post on September 10, 2001. [1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVKGRB3cygg&list=FLttU-lPuKrF73VJzvgjGdZg...

Sun, 01/29/2012 - 22:53 | 2108457 frostfan
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Hugh,

Quoting the US Army....very impressive.   So.....you have a US army report showing who they blame the 9/11 attacks on?   Oops :)  If I had to guess, the US Army also  wrote a report on 9/11 too.

Stick to the fringe groups to quote.

 

Sun, 01/29/2012 - 23:17 | 2108501 Hugh G Rection
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No remark about the exploding van? What about the one near GW bridge that hadn't exploded yet?

Here's another fringe tinfoil twoofer... Major General Stubblebine

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=daNr_TrBw6E

G'night Putz

 

Mon, 01/30/2012 - 00:36 | 2108643 frostfan
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Did you notice the guy is like 90 years old and not fully there?   Did you do a history check on the guy?  He wasn't a intelligence head for almost 20 years before he gave that speech.  If he was the intelligence head in 2001, that's one thing but he wasn't for 17 years not that any of you conspiracy guys imply that.  You NEED to have people think he was the intelligence head in 2001.  You NEED to distort and twist.

By the way, right next to his speech on youtube was a video with two million hits that insists that they have proof that no airplanes hit the world trade center.  Those are people on your side of the argument sir, not mine and it must be very disappointing to people like you that so many traffic helicopters took pictures of those planes hitting the towers.  Otherwise, we would be hearing all these "experts" insisting that it wasn't possible that planes hitting the WTC just like they say with the Pentagon.

Oh by the way, I woldn't do a count of how many generals believe your Mossad theory of 9/11 compared to those who don't.

Scoreboard, bitchz!!!!!!

 

Mon, 01/30/2012 - 00:54 | 2108665 Hugh G Rection
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By the way, right next to his speech on youtube was a video with two million hits that insists that they have proof that no airplanes hit the world trade center.  Those are people on your side of the argument sir

That's called controlled dissent.  The best way to control dissent is to lead it.  Look into Cass Sunstein and his program of cognitive infiltration.  What does it say when a government is so concerned with truth getting out.  If we're nutters, why the need to infiltrate the truth movement with disinfo trolls???

 

Judy Wood is a prime example with the Directed Energy Weapon nonsense.  Loose Change and Alex Jones are two more subtle examples (notice they never bring up the Mossad connection).  The idiots that claim holograms were used are likely all government trolls...(have you submitted an application?)

 

You want empirical evidence as to how the towers/wtc7 fell, watch AE911 Truth Explosive Evidence.  You want to know who and why, watch Missing Links.  You want to continue to be an ignorant douche (or is it complicit accessory after the fact?), then just keep right on with that official bullshit conspiracy story.

 

This is what you believe by the way....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuC_4mGTs98

Mon, 01/30/2012 - 09:53 | 2109248 frostfan
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Maybe you mean well Hugh but all this circular stuff you keep sending out lacks a bullseye in the middle.   It's not the first conspiracy out there but it's like the people still looking for the missing votes in 2004 Ohio.  You find 500 votes here and a thousand votes there and guess what, they're still 148k votes short of what they're looking for but they found something.

As for blaming everything on Zionists, well, you can go back to reading about the founding of our constitutional convention and find out just how sneaky liars and how greedy Christians were with no jews present.   But more likely, you're going to disregard anything Christians do and only focus on anything that benefits jews or as many of you use a cover, Zionists. 

 

Mon, 01/30/2012 - 13:59 | 2110213 Hugh G Rection
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I grew up a good little brainwashed Christian NeoCon.  Israel could do no wrong, Jews were God's "chosen" people, and after 9/11 I bought into patriotic mania.

 

The idea that I blindly want to blame Jews for everything is false.  A few years ago I started digging into 9/11, and the evidence forced me to change my paradigm.  I really don't care if someone goes to church, temple, or a mosque... this country was founded on the idea of freedom of religion.

 

When a group of xenophobes, secular or religous, pledges loyalty to a foreign country they should not be allowed to serve in office.  When they use that office to cover up the murder of Americans to be blamed on their enemies in the middle east, they should be punished for high treason.

 

Mon, 01/30/2012 - 16:32 | 2110637 Disenchanted
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^ +1000

all the above, same as me(edit: except for 9/11, I didn't need the '9/11 truth movement' to know we were being lied to from the day it happened)...expanding on the following:

 

"When a group of xenophobes, secular or religous, pledges loyalty to a foreign country they should not be allowed to serve in office.  When they use that office to cover up the murder of Americans to be blamed on their enemies in the middle east, they should be punished for high treason."

That goes for Zionist Gentile cut-outs, frontmen, and lackeys as well...especially those who are able to influence public office holders. Prime example in my book is some one like the fat c**t 'Reverend' John Hagee.

That POS should be deported ASAP. There are plenty of other examples, but for Hagee see this:

 

7. John Hagee Ministries (& Christians United for Israel): Registered in Texas. Evangelical Pastor John Hagee has been praised by both U.S. and Israeli officials for his unstinting support of Israel. The Christian Evangelical news network GOD TV reports that Hagee has raised US$58 million for charities in Israel. Im Tirtzu, the Gush Etzion Regional Council and the settlement of Ariel have all reportedly received funding from his network, among other venues. Hagee's operations are perhaps the most high-profile ones on this shortlist, partly because as an Evangelical leader he possess political clout that has brought presidential hopefuls to break bread with him.

from: http://mondoweiss.net/2011/12/the-tax-deductible-occupation.html

 

and this:

John Hagee world class, hypocritical Israel firster:

Pastor John Hagee – Cornerstone Church Ministry, Heresy, Divorce & Dirty Deeds

http://www.blog.joelx.com/pastor-john-hagee-cornerstone-church-ministry-...

 

This was Max Blumenthal at one of John Hagee's CUFI shindigs back in 2007. Fucking priceless...

Rapture Ready: The Christians United for Israel Tour

http://youtu.be/mjMRgT5o-Ig

Mon, 01/30/2012 - 18:10 | 2111073 Hugh G Rection
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Disgusting video.

I still have family with the same sick delusional support of Israel.  If they only knew the zionists are using them as useful idiots...

 

Tue, 01/31/2012 - 04:30 | 2112073 Disenchanted
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I still have family with the same sick delusional support of Israel.

 

I do as well, but I'm pretty much estranged from them now.

 

With what was pumped into my head as a youngster, I've found lately two sources that have helped me personally in dispelling some of those 'demons.'

 

The first is a very interesting book called Not In His Image by John Lamb Lash:

http://www.amazon.com/Not-His-Image-Gnostic-Ecology/dp/193149892X

Don't mistake him for some run of the mill 'new ager' as he voices some strong opinions in the book about that scene.

 

...and second was listening to the thoughts of a man by the name of John Trudell. Here's a brief video of Trudell discussing blame, guilt, intelligence, and sin:

http://youtu.be/NXR2iNFDxHE

 

I also like what he has to say here:

John Trudell - Mining our Minds For The Machine

http://youtu.be/6GgUyZ4F7CU

 

If you found those interesting you can find more of Trudell on youtube, and here: http://johntrudellarchives.com/

 

Tue, 01/31/2012 - 06:17 | 2112125 Disenchanted
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btw...

sick delusional support of Israel

 

did you catch this?...and can you imagine this making it into print in a US newspaper:

 

The downside of unbridled support for Israel

http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/opinion/the-downside-of-unbridled-s...

Fri, 02/03/2012 - 02:24 | 2122341 Hugh G Rection
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thanks for the links.  that Haaretz article surprised me.

Sun, 01/29/2012 - 20:18 | 2108254 AbruptlyKawaii
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classic head fake

Sun, 01/29/2012 - 22:49 | 2108448 Tuco Benedicto ...
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Well thought out and articulated!

Sun, 01/29/2012 - 15:22 | 2107698 Gully Foyle
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http://www.theonion.com/articles/bush-still-working-on-manned-mission-to...

Bush Still Working On Manned Mission To Mars Quietly In Spare Time

DALLAS—Speaking from his home in Dallas, former president George W. Bush told reporters Tuesday that when he's not busy giving lectures or writing his memoirs, he spends most of his spare time working on the manned mission to Mars he proposed in January 2004.

"This is genuinely important to me," said Bush, looking over sketches of potential rocket systems he had drawn up while waiting for his oil to be changed at a service station earlier this week. "I wasn't kidding when I announced a plan to get us to Mars, by God, and I intend to finish what I started. That's why I try to carve out a little time before lunch and after dinner to work on this important interplanetary initiative."

"It's a big project," Bush added. "Lots of little details to work out."

While in 2004 many critics suggested Bush's call for a mission to Mars was little more than political theater, the 43rd president has called those claims "ridiculous." Bush said he has spent many hours scouring the web for information about space travel and Mars, in addition to checking out "a bunch" of books on the subject from the local library and regularly e-mailing contacts he still has at NASA to ask their advice on his plan.

He also frequently watches the PBS program Nova.

"It's the first thing I think of when I wake up after having some breakfast and doing the crossword," Bush said. "Ask anyone: Whenever I have a spare minute, I'm always thinking about how to put astronauts on the surface of Mars."

"And Laura knows not to bother me on Saturday afternoons when I don't have a speaking engagement or a golf match to go to," Bush added. "That's my Mars time."

 

Working from the makeshift basement office he refers to as "Mission Control 2," Bush said he has grappled with some of the major issues surrounding a manned mission to Mars. For months he's been jotting down notes about how zero gravity would affect the bone density and muscle mass of the crew, and he spends about five minutes during his morning jog each day coming up with ideas for safely storing a year's worth of onboard oxygen.

Sometimes, Bush said, potential solutions come not when he's reading about the Red Planet's inhospitable surface conditions on Wikipedia or brainstorming shuttle names through free-association exercises, but when he's not thinking about the historic 34- million-mile voyage at all.

"Just last week, I was out in the garden tending to the tomatoes when it hit me: The astronauts should grow their own food to eat on their spaceship," Bush said. "I'm not saying I have all the specifics down just yet, but how the astronauts going to Mars will eat is at least one thing the next president won't have to worry about."

Bush recently started a blog devoted entirely to his thoughts about setting up a permanent colony on Mars. To achieve this, he writes on MarsUSA.blogspot.com, the astronauts will need to bring materials for building a sustainable base on the planet, and be able to convert water in the Martian soil into hydrogen and oxygen for the trip home.

"That's just common sense," Bush said. "All the science-fiction writers know that."

Bush admitted that he didn't have as much time as he would like to devote to the mission, but assured reporters he would never give up on something so important. While the challenges may seem insurmountable, he said, the greatest hope for man to achieve the incredible goal of landing on the surface of Mars lies in exploiting as-yet undiscovered technologies to overcome the incredibly daunting physical distances involved.

"I'm pretty busy right now, but when I get a spare 30 minutes, I'm going to start working on that," Bush said while flipping through a copy of Scientific American. "I'll have my friend Jerry from down the road come over and crunch some of the numbers for me. He's good with computers."

Sun, 01/29/2012 - 15:34 | 2107740 tom a taxpayer
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I wonder if the Martians are working on a Mission to Earth? Martians may not want to arrive until the dust settles...too messy to deal with so many warring clans.

Sun, 01/29/2012 - 15:38 | 2107748 Gully Foyle
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tom a taxpayer

"too messy to deal with so many warring clans."

Illuminati=Martians

 

Sun, 01/29/2012 - 17:13 | 2107953 akak
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I look forward to the day when humans finally establish first contact with the Walmartians.

Sun, 01/29/2012 - 17:14 | 2107958 GeorgeHayduke
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Can they put his whole family on the spaceship, including Jeb? That way we won't have any more Bush's in the White House screwing up the world.

Sun, 01/29/2012 - 15:29 | 2107727 adeptish
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USS "Ponce"

You could not make this up...

ponce [p?ns] Derogatory slang chiefly Britn

1. a man given to ostentatious or effeminate display in manners, speech, dress, etc.

2. another word for pimp

 

Really America ???

Sun, 01/29/2012 - 15:41 | 2107757 Gully Foyle
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adeptish

Talk about a word having two  meanings.

I can equate "ostentatious" with "pimp" but not "effeminate".

Then again it is a nation where people eat Spotted Dick.

Sun, 01/29/2012 - 17:20 | 2107968 akak
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Then again it is a nation where people eat Spotted Dick.

To judge from the overall level of physical attractiveness among the British population (think of any member of the royal family here as an example), spotted dicks are the least of their problems.  How that nation even manages to maintain a birthrate over 0.00 must be purely due to "closing their eyes and thinking of England."

Sun, 01/29/2012 - 21:37 | 2108345 Transformer
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And then when they finally do get a pretty one, she has the sad misfortune of dying a car wreck.

Sun, 01/29/2012 - 16:40 | 2107885 TrulyStupid
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What's at issue here is not oil, but the status of the USD as world reserve currency

 

http://www.caseyresearch.com/articles/will-iran-kill-petrodollar?ppref=G...

 

Sun, 01/29/2012 - 20:37 | 2108259 ToNYC
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Time to launch yet another psychiatrialist bubble out there in the slow news day...hurry up an steal what they won't sell US on our terms. Stop them from stopping themelves 'cause it hurts too much to stop.

Sic semper a tyrannis.

Sun, 01/29/2012 - 14:36 | 2107539 Randall Cabot
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Up to 100,000 US troops present by early March

For the new buildup on Socotra, Washington had to negotiate a new deal with Yemen’s ousted ruler Ali Abdullah Saleh.
Injured in an assassination attempt last year, Saleh demanded permission to travel to the United States for medical treatment. The Obama administration first refused, then relented when Saleh made it his condition for consenting to additional troops landing on the island.

Western military sources familiar with the American buildup on the two strategic islands tell DEBKA-Net-Weekly that, although they cannot cite precise figures, they are witnessing the heaviest American concentration of might in the region since the US invaded Iraq in 2003.

Then, 100,000 American troops were massed in Kuwait ahead of the invasion. Today, those sources estimate from the current pace of arrivals on the two island bases, that 50,000 US troops will have accumulated on Socotra and Masirah by mid-February. They will top up the 50,000 military already present in the Persian Gulf region, so that in less than a month, Washington will have some 100,000 military personnel on the spot and available for any contingency.

 

http://warsclerotic.wordpress.com/2012/01/27/massive-us-military-buildup-on-two-strategic-islands-socotra-and-masirah/     

 

 

Sun, 01/29/2012 - 14:40 | 2107560 GeneMarchbanks
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Well, Valentines day is fast approaching. Togetherness.

Sun, 01/29/2012 - 15:02 | 2107613 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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100,000 troops....

who has reported this?

...this is like the whole gold for oil thing.

Sun, 01/29/2012 - 15:27 | 2107719 Oh regional Indian
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I think they are stuck in a script loop LH. They are getting away with playing the same shit drama again and again.

This Iran saga has felt so much like Iraq, no? Slow pincer, bullshit /terririst/Nuculur charges by the same tired hacks at a UN funded and led "mission" for heaven's sake.

And why are they called missions? It's the words again. Missions were originally working for and in the service of God. 

And now we have missions everywhere. like the humanitarian libyan mission. Mission...wow, who would have thought.

Language.

ori

It's OIL for a very very very good reason.

/the-deep-perversion-of-language/

Sun, 01/29/2012 - 15:34 | 2107739 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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Jordan Maxwell type shit.  I can dig it.  Makes for some interesting the-ories.

^-^

Sun, 01/29/2012 - 14:36 | 2107541 LookingWithAmazement
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No Europe-boycott. Bye bye crisis. Boring world we live in.

Sun, 01/29/2012 - 14:55 | 2107616 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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You are rubbing off on me.  It looks like all fascist regemes are using the same playbook:

Bluff and keep bluffing!

Sun, 01/29/2012 - 15:21 | 2107693 Ahmeexnal
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A few more hours to prepare are welcome.

Sun, 01/29/2012 - 15:33 | 2107738 falak pema
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are you sitting in Davos or in the decision room of Merkel's eurobunker where the fate of Euro zone and kriegsspiel against Euro meltdown is being planned? Berchtesgaden of Merkozy land? 

Btw : is the turkey lunch good there? 

Sun, 01/29/2012 - 17:30 | 2107989 LookingWithAmazement
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Euro will be saved. Boring world we live in.

Sun, 01/29/2012 - 14:38 | 2107548 lolmao500
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OT : Gingrich biggest supporter investigated for bribing foreign officials

American billionaire, close ally of Netanyahu, and main donor to Gingrich's campaign has been under federal investigation for his casino empire's alleged involvement in a corruption scandal in China, ABC reports.

Last year, the Department of Justice and the Securities Exchange Commission launched an investigation into Adelson's alleged bribery of Chinese officials.

According to ABC, Sands casinos was allegedly cooperating with Chinese organized crime groups, known as triads, who allegedly organized high stakes gambling and sex junkets.

Chinese press reported at the time that more than 100 prostitues were found in the casino, during a raid by local authorities. A former manager at the casino, Steven C. Jacobs, sued Sands, claiming that Adelson told him to remain silent regarding investigation taking place against the company.

Several months ago, Adelson contributed $5 million to Winning Our Future, a pro-Gingrich super PAC. More recently, Adelson's wife gave another $5 million to the same super PAC, providing a major lift to the former House Speaker's campaign.

http://www.haaretz.com/news/international/report-adelson-under-criminal-...

Can Gingrich run end already?

Sun, 01/29/2012 - 18:08 | 2108054 earleflorida
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it has been said, that sheldon adelson is the largest single individual contributer to mossad in israel's short history

he is so far right natanyahu,... he makes him [binji] a [metaphorically speaking] fringe member of the 'ripon society'?

jmo

Sun, 01/29/2012 - 14:39 | 2107552 ekm
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Oh my God. Did anybody actually expect they would prohibit oil exports to Europe?

That's the only thing they have to buy food for the people. That would be ABSOLUT SUICIDAL for the regime. Their currency is already in hyper inflation.

Guys, do some simple math. For Iran, Oil = Food.

Oh, hold? Would they all go in HUNGER STRIKE as a nation? Don't make me laugh please.

Sun, 01/29/2012 - 14:41 | 2107564 lolmao500
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They only export 0.8 barrels to Europe.

I doubt they will cut their exports to Turkey anyways.

They'll just export more oil to India and China.

Sun, 01/29/2012 - 14:50 | 2107605 ekm
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Thx for commenting. See above.

Sun, 01/29/2012 - 14:56 | 2107619 ekm
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India has not paid the bill yet to the Iranians, they are using Turkey as mediator. 

Sun, 01/29/2012 - 14:42 | 2107565 ucsbcanuck
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"Oh my God. Did anybody actually expect they would prohibit oil exports to Europe?"

Sure - if India, China and Russia will buy those exports at the same price they are selling to Europe, who gives a shit about Europe? Money's money - doesn't matter whether it comes from the EU or from India, China and Russia.

I think the deal with India, China and Russia hit a snag.

Sun, 01/29/2012 - 14:49 | 2107602 ekm
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Sir, Russia does NOT buy oil. Russia is the biggetst oil exporter in the world, not Saudi Arabia.

However, assuming you are correct, then Europe, USA and Canada will ban food exports to Iran. Do you think China will export grain and other food to Iran with 49c/hr average wage? Oh, oh, oh, China has a surplus of pigs. They love pork. They will help the muslim Iranians with a lot of pork...(sarcasm).

Sun, 01/29/2012 - 14:58 | 2107624 Global Hunter
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Russia may be an exporter but I don't think that would stop them from buying a resource to feed into their refineries and pipelines if the price was right.  They export to eastern and central europe, as a poster above me said money is money and gas is gas.

Sun, 01/29/2012 - 15:00 | 2107630 ekm
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And then they would just turn off their riggs? Think about the flow of oil. It never stops.

There is a theoretical possibility that may happen, but it will make Iranians sell oil at a deep discount that will plung oil price immediately. Russian doesn't want that.

Sun, 01/29/2012 - 16:07 | 2107818 Global Hunter
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turn off rigs no but it would allow them at the margin to depend less on exploration and the drill bit.  Yes I agree with you about the discount to price, remember though Russia maintains gas pipelines west into Europe, refiners of end product require cheap resources or their margins get squeezed, furthermore supply of resource means nothing if the end users cannot afford the refined product any longer.

Sun, 01/29/2012 - 15:24 | 2107710 Ahmeexnal
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Melamine pork chops, sausages, bacon and spare ribs qualify as Halal.

Yes, chiNa will send food to iRan.

Sun, 01/29/2012 - 18:15 | 2108069 earleflorida
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mr. gorbackev, tear down that wall

so they did,... hmmm - one 'score' later - russia 1 - usa 0 

?

Sun, 01/29/2012 - 22:15 | 2108401 Bringin It
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Sorry to bust up your wet-dream with a dose of reality, but countries have food surpluses and need oil. They barter. They will continue to barter regardless of dollar dictates from the Ponzi Money Camp.

Without a physical embargo, which is an act of war, Persians will have food.

Sun, 01/29/2012 - 14:40 | 2107557 bank guy in Brussels
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This is Iran playing chess, at which they are masters.

They are giving the stupid leaders of the EU, the Euro-Idiots, time to adjust their programme.

The European leaders are never so foolish, as when they are acting as slavish poodles of the American bully.

Sun, 01/29/2012 - 15:21 | 2107692 dracos_ghost
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Or Chindia said you want to sell us that oil you took off the market. Sure. At 70% discount.

Sun, 01/29/2012 - 15:05 | 2107558 EL INDIO
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West escalates, Iran escalates, West appeases, Iran follows.

Seems reasonable !

Sun, 01/29/2012 - 15:39 | 2107755 dick cheneys ghost
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Right....this has been going for yrs......all by design by the socio-paths who run the world.........meanwhile the US is setting up a global police state right under our noses....

Sun, 01/29/2012 - 14:43 | 2107570 Atomizer
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EU bans Iranian oil imports [Updated January 24, 2012 12:27:15]

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-01-23/eu-slaps-ban-on-iran-oil-imports/3789110

Sun, 01/29/2012 - 14:44 | 2107571 A Lunatic
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Manifest Destiny, Bitchez. God save the Status Quo.

 

 

/sarc

Sun, 01/29/2012 - 14:45 | 2107573 lolmao500
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Manifest destiny is no better than the Israeli ``chosen race`` or Hitler's master race concept.

Sun, 01/29/2012 - 14:56 | 2107621 A Lunatic
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You are today's poster child for reading comprehension failure. Congratulations.

Sun, 01/29/2012 - 14:59 | 2107629 Eclipse89
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Actually this is not due to Iran embargo, but to Monti's taxes on gasoline... Italy doesn't give a fuck about Iran's oil, as we use the Lybian one.

Anyway, this protest has already ended 5 days ago with a negotiation between the government and the representatives of the protest.

Please get informed before posting bullshits.

The captain thanks you.

Sun, 01/29/2012 - 15:29 | 2107725 Ahmeexnal
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Yes, Italy does not need to import oil. A huge deposit was recently found off the coast of the island of Giglio.  And it's already refined and ready to use!

Sun, 01/29/2012 - 21:51 | 2108370 Bringin It
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http://www.dollarvigilante.com/blog/2012/1/25/italy-on-the-verge-of-a-fu...

On the 16th of January these protesters began "Operazione Vespri Siciliani", a blockade of the Island of Sicily. Within two days the transportation of all goods was stopped. Over the next week, nothing entered or exited Sicily. This was no mean feat given that Sicily is not a small Island; it has a population of over five million people and a surface area of 25,711 km2.

Sun, 01/29/2012 - 14:48 | 2107593 Pants McPants
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LCDR Kafka....too perfect!

Sun, 01/29/2012 - 14:48 | 2107594 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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But Iran is trading oil to India for gold!  Gold remember!  It was reported by....by...shit, who reported that India would trade oil for gold....

Oh yeah, nobody.

Yeah, escalation, right, no.  This is all a stupid card game and everyone is bluffing.   They are also fienting their raises like a bunch of bush league amatuers.

Sun, 01/29/2012 - 15:51 | 2107781 CrockettAlmanac.com
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It's a continuation of The Great Game but some players aren't bluffing. Bachman explained in a very animated way that Iran would nuke Israel by the spring. She wants action and the sooner the better. The closer that people like her are to the Big Red Button the scarier things get.

Sun, 01/29/2012 - 14:49 | 2107597 Dollar Bill Hiccup
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Russia is importing oil from Iran ? That would seem odd.

Sun, 01/29/2012 - 14:57 | 2107626 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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Russia sells oil for more than $100.  Buying it from Iran is cheaper, consider Iran's discounted currency.

This is why people that don't understand peak oil (call it peak cheap oil if you want) are stupid.  Sure Russia is producing more than anyone right now, but the EROEI is making their exports expensive, which is not condusive to their economic outlook.

Mon, 01/30/2012 - 03:14 | 2108827 toomanyfakecons...
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For all you PEAK OIL DENIERS... check out "Beyond The Peak" beginning at 2:23:43 of the latest Zeitgest movie, you might learn something... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Z9WVZddH9w

Mon, 01/30/2012 - 03:37 | 2108839 Vic Vinegar
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Mr Lennon Hendrix = a voice worth listening to.

toomanyfakecons... = a damn spambot, pimping a worthless movie.

Tnx for playing, clown.  Here's a Katy Perry video for you on your way out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98WtmW-lfeE&ob=av2e

 

Mon, 01/30/2012 - 09:53 | 2109251 toomanyfakecons...
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The truth is stranger than fiction... and you are an Ostrich my good man.

Sun, 01/29/2012 - 14:49 | 2107599 Negro Primero
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"Lt. Cmdr. Mike Kafka, a spokesman for the Navy’s Fleet Forces Command." ...HU!!!

Sun, 01/29/2012 - 15:54 | 2107790 CrockettAlmanac.com
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"I never met a morphosis I didn't like." Will "Cockroach" Rogers.

Sun, 01/29/2012 - 14:50 | 2107603 lolmao500
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Russia/China should just do military drills in Iran with Iranian forces to show NATO they are not fucking around.

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