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Iran Blinks, Delays Vote On European Crude Export Halt Even As US Escalates Military Developments Against Country
After it was the west backing down from further unnecessary escalation with Iran two weeks ago, when Israel and the US delayed indefinitely joint naval operations in the Arabian Gulf, it is now Iran's turn to blink. Following reports that Iran would pass a law halting crude exports to European countries, in advance of the full-blown embargo expected to take place some time by June, or as soon as European countries have found alternative supplies, we now learn that "Iran's parliament on Sunday postponed the debate over the bill." This is happening just as nuclear inspectors are arriving in the country "to probe allegations of a secret atomic weapons program." Yet does this mean that Iran has just exposed a major weakness that the West will immediately pounce on? It is still unclear - Reuters reports that "Iran's oil minister said on Sunday the Islamic state would soon stop exporting crude to "some" countries, the state news agency IRNA reported." Naturally the vague, open-endedness of this statement makes it quite clear that it was Iran's turn to de-escalate this time around. Or does this simply mean that Iran has been unable to conclude alternative oil trade arrangements with China, Russia and India just yet?
According to Reuters: "Soon we will cut exporting oil to some countries," Rostam Qasemi was quoted by IRNA as saying."
Yet instead of taking this cue to attempt some additional deescalation in its own part, the US has decided to double down in further belaboring already tense relations.
On one hand, WaPo reported late on Friday that the Navy wants a commando "mothership" in the Middle East, something which Iran will be delighted to hear.
The Pentagon is rushing to send a large floating base for commando teams to the Middle East as tensions rise with Iran, al-Qaeda in Yemen and Somali pirates, among other threats.
In response to requests from U.S. Central Command, which oversees military operations in the Middle East, the Navy is converting an aging warship it had planned to decommission into a makeshift staging base for the commandos. Unofficially dubbed a “mothership,” the floating base could accommodate smaller high-speed boats and helicopters commonly used by Navy SEALs, procurement documents show.
Lt. Cmdr. Mike Kafka, a spokesman for the Navy’s Fleet Forces Command, declined to elaborate on the floating base’s purpose or to say where, exactly, it will be deployed in the Middle East. Other Navy officials acknowledged that they were moving with unusual haste to complete the conversion and send the mothership to the region by early summer.
Navy documents indicate that it could be headed to the Persian Gulf, where Iran has threatened to block the Strait of Hormuz, a crucial shipping route for much of the world’s oil supply. A market survey proposal from the Military Sealift Command, dated Dec. 22 and posted online, states that the floating base needed to be delivered to the Persian Gulf.
U.S. military officials declined to say what prompted them to give the Ponce a sudden new lease on life. But contract and bidding documents underscore the urgency of the project.
One no-bid contract for engineering work states that the military was waiving normal procurement rules because any delay presented a “national security risk.” Other contract bids are due Feb. 3. The Navy wants the conversion work to begin 10 days later on the Ponce, which is docked in Virginia Beach
Also on Friday, the WSJ reported that the Pentagon seeks a mightier bomb vs Iran, one whose name could have only been inspired by the Adult Entertainment Expo: the "Massive Ordnance Penetrator."
Pentagon war planners have concluded that their largest conventional bomb isn't yet capable of destroying Iran's most heavily fortified underground facilities, and are stepping up efforts to make it more powerful, according to U.S. officials briefed on the plan.
The 30,000-pound "bunker-buster" bomb, known as the Massive Ordnance Penetrator, was specifically designed to take out the hardened fortifications built by Iran and North Korea to cloak their nuclear programs.
But initial tests indicated that the bomb, as currently configured, wouldn't be capable of destroying some of Iran's facilities, either because of their depth or because Tehran has added new fortifications to protect them.
Doubts about the MOP's effectiveness prompted the Pentagon this month to secretly submit a request to Congress for funding to enhance the bomb's ability to penetrate deeper into rock, concrete and steel before exploding, the officials said.
The push to boost the power of the MOP is part of stepped-up contingency planning for a possible strike against Iran's nuclear program, say U.S. officials.
Alas, in light of these two additional escalating developments, we are rather confident that Iran's latest gambit to show a modicum of goodwill behind the scenes will soon be extinguished.
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WTF???
http://www.businessinsider.com/the-report-that-will-blow-up-the-eurozone...
The Report That Will Blow Up The EurozoneThe report I refer to in the title requires a little background info:
In Holland, where I'll be for a few more days, there's a "rogue" right-wing party named PVV (Party for Freedom). It has no cabinet ministers, but the minority moderate right-wing government needs its support to stay in the saddle. The PVV, like other European right-wingers, is, among many other things, against much of what the European Union stands for. It's certainly against the Euro, and the bailouts with Dutch taxpayer money of countries like Greece and Portugal.
A few months ago, the PVV announced they had commissioned a report from British financial consultancy firm Lombard Street Research on the economic consequences of staying in the Eurozone versus returning to the guilder.
That report is about to be published "within days". It will prove to be highly explosive material. And the PVV will do all it possibly can to make sure it receives a lot of media attention. It may tear down the incumbent government, which is a heavy advocate of all things Europe, and which will have to quit once the PVV support dies, but for that party that's not the no. 1 concern.
And if and when Holland has a large scale discussion on the report and the issues it raises, Germany won't be able to ignore it and stay behind. And then, neither will France.
A British financial consultancy releasing a Euro-negative report (and commissioned by a right-wing party no less)? Stunning. The world will be shocked. SHOCKED. Total protonic reversal will surely follow.
If it can end the Eurozone, then it'll be a goody.
LOL, and if you "end the eurozone", then you sleep better?
For the europeans, yes.
Expect several Panzer divisions crossing into NL and arresting (or outright murdering) all PVV members. Remember Pim Fortuyn.
That will be followed by dutch citizens being ordered to take only their indispensable items in one suitcase per person, and proceed to board a train that will relocate them to another part of europe.
sleep better?
that is funny!
but i'd better be quiet or i might awaken the europeons! L0L!!! [not you, ghordie; i remark and appreciate your vigilance]
LOL
LOL
In Germany former Thyssen CEO Dieter Spethmann strongly opposes the Euro and states that Germany needs a _higher_ valued currency.
He cites the empirical evidence of Germany's economic success from 1971 to 1989 where Germany got wealthier and the Mark rose in value.
Another example (not from Spethmann) is the canadian Auto industry; the CAD went from 60 cents to par and the car plants did at least not wors then the ones in the US.
With my tremendous media power of circa 15-18 email contacts, I will publish a report tomorrow which reveals that - gasp - the entire worldwide monetary system is a - gasp again - PONZI SCHEME!
tick tock, tick tock,
Iran to halt oil sales to ‘some countries’
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/71394c8a-4a92-11e1-a11e-00144feabdc0.html
Fixes FT Headline: Iran complies with EU Oil Embargo.
The propaganda spin ensues
Hmm, probably Greece. Wouldn't get paid anyways.
And in Syria....
http://twitter.com/arabspringff
Reports that a missile battalion defected in Damascus outskirts and threatened to attack the Presidential palace if attacked.
100% confirmed that the missile battalion has defected in Damascus. They have the capability to attack the palace.
it is 100% confirmed that the Missile Battalion has defected, capability of hitting the presidential palace is there, threats not confirmed
Right now, they are in talks with the air force. A big part of the air force could defect!
A few scuds up Assad's ass would sure be nice.
Psyop.
A few scuds up Assad's ass would sure be nice.
You must work for the "US Department of State".
Reminds me of the whole "SCUD hunt" fiasco during DS1 and DS2.
Some footage clearly showed those "SCUD mobile launchers" were in reality just civilian trucks and in a couple cases a falafel cart.
I am sometimes puzzled and amazed by the great lengths TPTB will go to sell the public their bull shit lies.
where o where is the last imam hiding?
The White House
OT : http://endthelie.com/2012/01/29/flash-grenades-tear-gas-300-arrested-at-...
Flash-grenades & tear-gas: 300 arrested at Occupy OaklandPolice in Oakland, California, have used tear-gas and flash-grenades as a 2,000-strong Occupy Oakland march turned violent, with some protesters claiming that rubber bullets were also fired into the crowd. At least 300 people were arrested.
Not the weapons inspectors thing again? Because it worked so well at preventing war last time. /s
Inspectors on the ground couldn't find any WMDs. Rumsfeld said he knew where the WMDs were located. Then the UN pulled out the inspectors so that the bombing campaign could commence.
But it never occured to Rumsfeld or anyone else to tell the inspectors where he "knew" the WMDs were located. You can't make this stuff up.
The WMDs were hidden in that section of the pentagon hit by the missle on 9-11, right next to the bookkeeping section which showed where that $2,300,000,000.000.00 disappeared to. Rumsfeld never lies!
Why would the US need a "commando mothership" there? Isn't our 'ally' and 'unsinkable aircraft carrier' in the Middle East handling that end?
False FlagI don't know...deploying a mothership in the middle east to protect national interests? It's crazy how the US has the audacity to do such a thing on the other side of the world, well maybe it's not so crazy. The war for resources will only get worse, competition thrives in the context of scarcity.
I don't know...deploying a mothership in the middle east to protect national interests? It's crazy how the US has the audacity to do such a thing on the other side of the world, well maybe it's not so crazy. The war for resources will only get worse, competition thrives in the context of scarcity.
Iran rules. At least they do not kiss somebody's ass all the time. And believe me, these claims that they have some nukes there soon will turn out to be a false alarm. Just like weapons of mass destruction that Iraq was supposed to have. You are all manipulated. Wake up or dream on.
this is where oreo's post would appear if he had not pretended to answer m_thong to jump the string and spam zH for to n-thousandth time
can you imagine how crazy he must be to keep doing this, here? how insecure and psychologically unaware can a little man who has served Mammon his entire life, while apparently doing breathing and stretching exercises, BE to keep putting up OT links, as if this were faceFuk or puffHo?
why do you think he does this?
one zH recently told me the thought oreo just had a passion for his own website! L0L!!! i shit you not!
Hahaha!
did you "edit" while i was writing that, money_never_ps?
How did they pull this off?
Easy.
TPTB sent a cable to Tehran warning that upon the news of any oil embargo, then the Plutocrats in the West would immediately engage in the following:
1) Instantaneous margin increases announced on crude and gasoline futures on the NYMEX.
2) Pallet loads of pre-printed "short at market" order tickets would be unleashed on the NYMEX.
3) Bogus news regarding a potential Eurozone default would be released, setting off panic selling of "risk assets"
After intense discussion and evaluation, Iran finally admitted to themselves that fighting the "Infinite Fiat" machine in NY and London was a losing proposition.
Any questions???
Yeah, that would kill the stock rally. The PWG would have to go short the market. The VIX would rise. Further killing the rally. The Dow would be staring 8k in the face. Obama would be forced to do something drastic way ahead of schedule....
That is all in Iran's favor, so why wouldn't Iran issue the oil embargo? Oh yeah, because Iran is playing the hand the NWO dealt them like a bunch of bitches.
The current IAEA head is some Japanese guy whom the West pushed hard for. He was not highly thought of at the UN, but the US wanted him, and they got him. Voila! A new puppet is born!
to tyler's either/or question, it could be both, too? or neither!
i don't think iran is in charge of this process, so to me, they played this card b/c they "agreed" to do so, but what else do we know? nada-to-zilch, zeroHeads? not one of these nations is saying nuttin about nuttin except for this "blink"
i would prefer it be toward a peaceful end or resolution here, and put forth what i saw indicating that possible result, beginning about a month ago, and why i though it was waxing, not waning, in spite of all the truculence and war-whoops
furthermore the recent dollar weakness may be an early indication of peace and a trade bloc possibly forming around using a non-U$D currency, but in a manner which will not "destroy the US dollar", but it is too soon to know
i could imagine designing a staged process to work toward possible transitions and i wouldn't be surpriZed if stuff like that was actually being looked at by these nations as they were "droning" along last month and there were a few explosions and a dead scientist or two, and then the a huddle in the swiss embassy in tehran, and everybody backed off a step
and now, as tyler queries, is this a reciprocal step back to allow the process to develop? what the hell is going on here? hopefully the damned devils are working out the damned details, and all the branches of the decision tree won't end in "you're fuked" as in the EU and other fiatsco-like processes
Could you explain for those of us who are--less then--how trading oil or any other commodity actually-without USD involvement would ot could destroy the USD?
When oil is traded in U. S. dollars foreign countries have to sell their own currencies and buy dollars in order to complete the transaction. Take that away and a huge vacuum in USD demand would ensue futher weakeing the dollar. However, in reality there is no real substitute for the U. S. Dollar at this time. The U. S. Treasury Bond market is huge where several trillions in transactions can transpire in one day. There is no comparable market in the world right now. This according to Dr. Webster Tarpley.
Although the fed may devalue the U. S. Dollar by up to 40% overnight later this year that will not kill the U. S. Dollar entirely.
When oil is traded in U. S. dollars foreign countries have to sell their own currencies and buy dollars in order to complete the transaction
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Not if they already hold US dollars and only if they want to buy oil in the US dollars that they hold in reserves-
Oil can and does trade in any currency-at the USD/exchange rate of the day because oil is only "priced" on the world market in USD's-
US dollars are not neccessary to buy oil and to my knowlege never have been-except for Zimbawbe/Argentina etc.
i don't know j_j!
some of the "drama" on the www, tho has pointed to the "delta" or change in the situ if the U$D isn't used
it won't be "in demand" and will be "dumped due to oversupply", or something, b/c there are a near-infinite amt of "dollars" floating around, and probably a counterfeit or two, also
hewever, if currencies are "fungible" they should just trade, too, right?
but, it seems to me, that the fear-mongers, some of them, are talking about the "loss of global hegemony" as if "the dollar" could never get off the mat, again, if this were allowed to occur, BiCheZ! and some may be "reserves" for some other fiatsco, like PIIGFUK bonds, or hi risk junk corporates. due to group insanity, or the wrong meds. but what the hell are "reserves" any more, anyhow? what the hell, are you kidding me? don't get me laughing, here...
i don't undertstand it! but if people are nutso about it (and a few seem to be) i am trying to say there might be a possiblity of getting thru this w/out a cataclysmic event for the dollar, thus avoiding certain war over this! fuk that noise, j_j!
if the dollar isn't in demand, then it goes in the shitter and our exports and jobs pick up, i would think, but maybe the Ts tank too or something when the sta-puf marshmallow man arrives
but there may be a bankster dimension about control thru "dollar clearing" that they would kill entire nations over. would not surprise slewie in the least and we may well have recently seen just that
how the fuk would we know what we're seeing? L0L!!!
that "no fly zone" over libya for most of last year cost these NATO civilian protectors quite a bit of money, too. "...but no american lives were lost..."
the brits had a report last spring/summer i believe to Parliament about the actual costs, and then they decided to "re-commit" for another three months or whatever time period they were working on in the beginning that was shorter and didn't happen. in libya
but they 'forgot' about half the costs when they went to get more commitment, there, and the actual expenses later reported were simply breathtaking!
america didn't report any expenses, did they? anybody hear one fuking word about how much it cost, in dollars? i haven't. not one word
maybe it's another secret, or, like the DOD budget itself, nobody ever knows what happened with some of the money and that's official, too!
i still think this may be quid pro quo for libya: the chinese and russians just held their noses and were quite diplomatic thru the whole thing
so now they get to work this deal?
possibility? i hope so!
it won't be "in demand" and will be "dumped due to oversupply", or something, b/c there are a near-infinite amt of "dollars" floating around, and probably a counterfeit or two, also
hewever, if currencies are "fungible" they should just trade, too, right?
but, it seems to me, that the fear-mongers, some of them, are talking about the "loss of global hegemony" as if "the dollar" could never get off the mat, again, if this were allowed to occur, BiCheZ! and some may be "reserves" for some other fiatsco, like PIIGFUK bonds, or hi risk junk corporates. due to group insanity, or the wrong meds. but what the hell are "reserves" any more, anyhow? what the hell, are you kidding me? don't get me laughing, here...
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Yes currencies are fungible-
I can see the part about not using USD's in a trade-but the fact is-none of those countries have a choice but to accept USD's-
They (most) of them run a trade surplus with the US and so-they have no choice but to accept USD's from the US unless they stopped trading/exporting into the US and so they have to do "something" with those dollars or else they become basically useless-so-as i said in a previous post-they are mostly shut out of buying big business/property "in" the US because of Congressional disapproval-so the only alternative is to buy commodities such as oil with them-or-buy US debt paper and that's about the only way at "this time" that they can repatriate the USD back to the US-
There will come a time when US bonds get sold off and then there will be a big initial USD demand as bonds sell off and dollars again flow back to foreigners-then there will be an over surplus of liquid USD's-at that point the dollar could be in danger-right now though it's probably safe (if any of them are ever really safe)
An example--
If India buys oil from Saudi and pays in USD's and Saudi buys some goods from China in USD's-(for the same amount of money in each trade)-what does China do with the dollars?
That seems like a wash to me-
well, if they have a choice to accept or no choice to accept, it's no skin off mine, j_j; i was just saying that i didn't see a necessary traumatic "problem" for the dollar if iran didn't use it sell oil to, say, india, or sriLanka, that's all, and it sounds like you come the same idea
foreign countries and nationals may not get "approval" for a port or something where the national economy or defense is at stake
but they can still invest
how many patels own businesses and stores? how many chinese, japanese? real estate? no, everything they want won't get approved, but my whole life it has been much easier for foreign nationals to invest in the US than for a US citizen to invest in foreign assets, in general
the only reason the port deal got squashed, as i recall, was that someone "noticed" what the bush admin was gonna do, there, and the vigilance increased
i don't care what china does with the dollars; i don't care what iran does with its oil; i don't care if dubai can't buy a US port to run; i tried to answer your question, again, that's all... i still think you're making a mountain out of a molehill of the trade thing
china and these other countries may have surplus dollar 'problems', but those dollars are neither useless nor worthless, at least at the present time
answer this if you're still around ok? how can china have a dollar problem if it can buy gold silver coal oil wheat and pussy with the damned dollars? did you see the fuking grains being shipped to china last spring and summer? isn't, uh,...GM selling them cars? c'mon, j_j! the only thing i think china ought to do is FREE TIBET!!!
answer this if you're still around ok? how can china have a dollar problem if it can buy gold silver coal oil wheat and pussy with the damned dollars? did you see the fuking grains being shipped to china last spring and summer? isn't, uh,...GM selling them cars? c'mon, j_j! the only thing i think china ought to do is FREE TIBET!!!
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I didn't say China had a problem with dollars-i did say-they have no choice "but" to have dollars because of their trade surplus with the US-
I'm sure by the looks of things they are glad to have the trade surplus and so obviously they are happy to accept dollars which they can turn around and buy US grain etc. with-
GM has factories in China as well and they sell to whoever-
There was also a nixed buyout of Unocal with US properties and i don't see a security threat there-i suspect this is more related to tariff and trade barriers-sort of tit for tat for the currency peg and retaliation for trade barriers that China has imposed-
I understand that foreign country/companies have been buying toll bridges and such over the years and that's not seen as a security threat-
At some point-they will likely have to allow foreign buyers in but they seem to so far be blocking big buyouts and yes- foreigners can invest in US markets and US debt-
t.y. for clarifying your thoughts
since this dialogue has been going on for most of the weekend, i wasn't sure if your thoughts had changed
again, i appreciate you taking athe time, here
I just finished a fortune-telling course and try my new crystal ball... may I post my first prediction here? Well, I just do it:
I see ... I see... elite bankers winning and populations losing...#
what do you think? how was that?
good!
r = 1,
b/c i came to the same conclusion while playing w/ my own balls!
i sure hope this is just coincidence or maybe correlation!
wandstrasse - I foresee a bright future for you. I see a letter, no wait...the vision is sharper now, a telegram from Goldman Sachs asking you to replace Stolper, GS currency strategist.
I see bankers and other former Americans (now globalists) hanging from wide oak trees. God, what a beautiful sight. I love the smell of bankers' necks burning in the morning!
it means nothing because these stories can never be confirmed. Reuters started the stories, and the now Reuters is reporting another story. Don't ya get it??? Reuters is a propaganda machine. Its merely a distraction....and its working!!
And who is it again that owns Reuters? Something about a red shield with a six-pointed star begins to swim into the crystal ball.
on persia choking and squeezing the euro stop cock oil valve..
.“Haste is the mother of failure - and for failure we always pay a heavy price.”
in time the mothership will come and be destroyed not by persian hands.
but by the treacherous hands of the satanic Maccabees,Makabim,Maqabim.
be ware of the rabid dog who answers to the name bibi.
Hi, folks! Listen to this!
I've got a taxi couple days ago, night, nothing to see, general conversation with a taxi driver.
-How is life?
-yeah alright but could be better.
-wassup?
-just trouble back home.
-where is that?
-Iran
-???
So what is a trouble?
- inflation, embargo,economical crisis...
-so bad?
-inflation for the last month 300%
-wow, how so?
-the stupid president! If you was playing cards would you wait until the card are dealt and game is on, or would you show what cards you got as they being dealt and say: "See what I've got . I'm gonna fuck you over? This guy is saying we gonna wipe off Israel and he doesn't and they point the rockets on us. He says we gonna close the strait and he doesn't, so the yanks send the troops to our borders. What this all about? You wanna swing a punch, do it don't talk about it, you feel like doing it , do it if you are your rights!!!"
-that's a bit strong brother...
-we are calm and strait nation mate but oil is our curse!!!
-isn't what makes you nation so reach and strong?
-No! That what draws to much attention to us! You would love to go to see my country. It's like Europe but Arabic way....we have it all schools, museums, caffes, markets.
My father is working on market as a trader and he can sustain family of 6. Did you see something like this in Europe or USA? No brother you wouldn't. We are expiring nation, exactly like Libyans.
-No, what about Libyans?
-Did you know that they didn't pay taxes, that you could take a loan from a government bank and pay it back without extras. That every second kid in the family was entitled to be send to high school for the government costs, that the oil revenue was spread about population directly and medicine if free and good ? I wonder how they doing now? With all pipe lines and oil terminals secured by foreigner troops. I reckon we are the next.
- But I didn't see it on newspapers or TV?
-Do you think I'm bullshitting you?
We are like a wheat grain on the mill, no matter how hard we are we will be ground to the dust...and bread will be baked and thrown to the crowd watching our best sons killing each other for a cheer and pleasure of those who got a ticket to sit in Coliseum .
we have it all schools, museums, caffes, markets.
You f**king ***hole, the only reason your country is not a vast swath of barren desert and has Schools, Museums, Caffes, markets, and ILL ADD - FOOD, CLOTHES, ENERGY, BUILDINGS, WATER, MOSQUES, ROADS, CARS, and BOOKS is because you have oil. You have no other exportable product whatsoever (F your pistachios and rugs).
THAT being said, your LUNATIC LEADERS are going to cause your country A LOT of harm. NO ONE wants to attack Iran, we really don't but we are NOT going to allow your LUNATIC LEADERS to have a nuclear weapon. PERIOD.
TELL your LEADERS to contract for LFTR tech from CHINA and abandone nuclear weapons program and IRAN will sail into the 21st Century as a TOP COUNTRY!!!! The way your headed, the 21st century for you folks is likely to resemble the stone age.
Now. Do whatever it is you want, because if your LEADERS keep it up, the USA is going to bring pain like you people have not seen since the middle ages.
Bugger off. I sell what i buy.
Now that was ironic.
Europe is MORE ARABIC than most arab nations. Moslems don't call it Eurabia for nothing.
Paristan, Londonistan, Berlinstan....more moslems in those cities than in some ME nations.
BTW, your story is fake. An iRanian would NEVER call his country "Arabic". iRanians are persians.
BTW. This is a very huge generalisation.
Iranians are Persians (61%), Azerbaijanis (16%), Kurds (10%), Lurs (6%), Arabs (2%), Balochs (2%), Turkmens and Turkic tribes (2%),[231] Laks, Qashqai, Armenians, Persian Jews, Georgians, Assyrians, Circassians, Tats, Mandaeans, Gypsies, Brahuis, Kazakhs and others (1%).
Anything else is a fake in the story?
"...we are NOT going to allow your LUNATIC LEADERS to have a nuclear weapon. PERIOD."
L0L!!! acoording to what your lunatic leaders are saying publicly? you know this because you read it in the paper, perhaps?
if everybody's lunatic leaders are the problem with this lunacy, we may be helpless and hopeless and freaking doomed, but at least we might have a little empathy and solidarity with our "enemies" at some level
at least some of us might
Great Bill! You send your kids over to die in the sand for the fucking New World Order. Get real!
TYLER DURDEN, please write an open letter to IRAN stating that it would be in THEIR best interest and the worlds if they simply licensed LFTR technology from CHINA. China could engineer/build/service/and FUEL their LFTR's in exchange for payment in the form of Gold/Oil/WHATEVER. This will allow for ALL embargos to be DROPPED, the Iranian currency to increase in value. It will be the first ME country to be 100% Renewable/Clean/and cheap energy. Iran can continue to sell its one 'product' to the world and hand out the $$$ to its citizens. When the oil runs out they should still have plenty of money. And when the money runs out they can issue bonds like the US.
THIS WILL get IRAN THROUGH THE NEXT 250+++ YEARS!
I don't wanna justify your IQ level, but do you really think that basic mathematics, physic cultural heritage, and medicine was developed by glorious bomb and rockets lunching nation of USA?
Cultural heritage and about two bucks will get me a Starbucks tall coffee. The other stuff was about 2000 years ago and it was appropriated from others anyway. I see a world of misery in Iran's future. Can't see the Sunni's anywhere giving a rat's ass.
Mate, after your remark I am sure you don't know what a proper cup a coffee is. Starbuk(my ass).
LMAO
This confrontation is a precursor of what is coming. Whether the war starts with Iran or Syria or in another location, the world as we have known it, will be gone. Future history is written and recorded. Most people won't see it, until after the dust settles.
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Georg1 ! I shell confess I am keen reader of your blog. And I am so sad about how things are. My grand father was a sustainable farmer and I was spending long time being with him when I was a kid and I've learned a lot. I know how hard the life is when one got to own his bread and meat in a strait way. We are living in a wonderful world of do nothing get everything and for sure it something wrong with it. I am not saying everybody got to pull the plough, but for sure there is no happiness without sacrifice...
then you know that hard life is not bad life
but tradition
"...but for sure there is no happiness without sacrifice..."
thank you for reminding us of this, Babs
happiness is many things and there are books of sacrifices and books about the books; but if you don't know your heart's desire, you might not also know the "sacrifice" of what fuking nonsense you need to toss to stay on your path, either
as a very wize man once informed me: slewie, you are your own guru
boy, was he full0'shit! L0L!!! get it?
You really need to clean up the format of your blog. It's a mess.
And nobody likes the huge fonts.
Within the next 6 months we will be at war with Iran, mark my words.
Would it be bastard-like to put a bet in as: within the next 6 months and 1 day we will be at war with Iran.
Closest one wins!
I'll take up that offer. My bet goes to the day Ogolfer is declared winner in the upcoming elections.
Disagreed! It is too obvious. I look for something out of left field such as a India-Pakistan confrontation. We'll see. Just a hunch.
The war will happen, only a matter of time. In that sense, timing of 6 months maybe way off, but not the outcome. Iran war will not start until Syrian regime goes and judging from Libya, it may take at least one year to happen. Hell, under constant bombing and mercenaries roaming almost freely and being armed and shipped to Lybia it took 11 months. Syria is a harder case, because: no UN resolution was passed to allow for direct intervention, there is a direct Russian involvement, which only further delays a regime change for a year or so. Having said that, when Asad goes, add another 6 months and you may have an accurate estimate.
I agree with possibility of India-Pakistan confrontation scenario, but not as an alternative to confrontation with Iran, rather a follow-up. Once the war starts, it will not be just about Iran and in that sense it will be different from Iraq or Lybia (which were rather 'contained' ones), it will spread into entire region very quickly.
Within the next 6 months we will be at war with Iran, mark my words.
Then in 6 months $4 trillion of Treasuries will be dumped and American cities will be nuked shortly after.
China and Russia have drawn the line in the sand at Iran and told America (and Israel) don't cross it.
End of discussion.
that's what they said about ussr and usa over cuba. never happened
Makes sense if you trade crude oil and other stuff: http://www.spadacapital.com/?articleID=2236
Mobile special forces ship?
Talk about putting all your eggs in one basket.
Or they are trying to make an ad for GI Joe 3.
My car LOVES Iranian oil...
I don't give a fuck. Life will go on. And the sooner we wake up to that reality, the sooner we'll gather the resources to work on things that matter.
All the stupid American whites, blacks, Mexicans, and Asians need to start to pick sides. Who gives a fuck about Israel. I certainly don't.
Are you willing to sacrifice the life and limb of your children to protect some Jews in the desert? If you are, you are nothing but an idiot slave.
In other news - The weather in Davos, Switzerland is quite cold (or hot?) this time of year...
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http://media.zenfs.com/en_us/News/ap_webfeeds/8584e03ed3b19402050f6a7067...
http://media.zenfs.com/en_us/News/ap_webfeeds/46e27cd9d3a99402050f6a7067...
http://media.zenfs.com/en_us/News/ap_webfeeds/a2fdf128d3b89402050f6a7067...
http://media.zenfs.com/en_us/News/ap_webfeeds/47c7e461d3959402050f6a7067...
Actually the US has already committed an act of war by assaulting Iran's central bank:
US Attacks on Iran's Monetary System Take Hold - an Act of War by the US by any measure!
This could be the trigger to start the people killing:
Is the USS Enterprise being setup for a possible false flag event?
Two words: supercavitating torpedoes.
refusing to trade with someone is an act of war?
Really?
Really: "If goods don't cross borders, armies will"
but then that would mean the person wanting to trade is the one who commits the act of war, not the one not wanting to trade.
I still dont see your logic, sorry
Both sides want to trade, but under their own terms: Iran doesn't want to trade in USD, but happy to settle trade in gold, for example. US wants opposite, because there is no real settlement of trade. Either agreement is reached or war will follow, whoever wins, sets the terms of trade going forward. Got it? Now, when US is restricting Iran's access to USD it clearly is escalating dispute only to lead to direct conforntation sometime down the line. Who is to blame is another question, but historically winners made scapegoats of losers.
But under their own terms:
Yeah, that is the point of entering into a trade; both sides think they are better off after the trade. Else no trade takes place.
Making it very simple for you...
If I want to trade frozen squid for ceramic toilet seats, its because I value the toilet seats more then the squid. If the other guy does not, I dont declare war on him. Same for him; he is not going to go to war with me because I wont accept toilet seats in exchange for squid. If he goes to war with me to get my squid its not about toilet seats, its about robbery.
Now, maybe I use his refusing to trade as a pretext for war, but everybody can see through that because I can always find somebody else who wants my squid, sell to them and use the proceeds to pay for the toilet seats in something the seller values.
There is no act of war in any of this refusing to trade. Sorry.
Speaking of incorrect analogies, squid ahm vs oil, trade between individuals vs international trade, reserve currency enforcement and geopolitical interests. You might start thinking outside of simplistic constructs of one man trading on an island with indigenous before you can grasp what is going on. And don't be sorry, you only owe it to yourself.
From a Jordanian muslim fighter not so long ago
"We have the Koran that tells us what to do. We will restore the Sharia. Allah gave us oil and martyrs. We cannot stop. Soon the whole world will recognize our strength and become Muslim. The only ones will will not convert to Islam will be the Jews, and we will destroy them."
Abdul-Walid, talking about Islam's intent for Israel and then the west
Warning from a freedom fighter a long time ago
"If you will not fight for the right when you can easily win without bloodshed; if you will not fight when your victory will be sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a small chance of survival. There may even be a worse case: you may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves."
Winston Churchill, Age 24, talking about the threat posed by military tactics of Islam
Oh yeah, dah lodgik of da 'inevitable' whar.
Only one solution, start da war FIRST!
Clever
http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docId=7277751690450162669#
Something to think about...
Iranian Aircraft Carriers in the Gulf of Mexico [Satire]
http://original.antiwar.com/engelhardt/2012/01/29/iranian-aircraft-carri...
excerpt:
and another one:
Putting Israel First
The War Party's Achilles' heel
continued here: http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2012/01/29/putting-israel-first-2/
Hope we all remember that Iran's military said that any country that imposes these sanctions will not receive one drop of oil through the strait.
I don't read an Iranian de-escalation or a 'blink' here, more a line in the sand, a fairly frank ultimatum has been issued.
The ball is in Europe's court.
They will decide their own fete and they probably only have a couple of weeks to make that decision, before it's made for them.
I said from the beginning that this is a case of the west saying it will sanction Iran, and Iran turning it around and saying, er, no, I'm going to sanction you.
Two can play this game, the US and NATO stand to lose huge this way - not just Iran.
If Iran did it their way, then Iran would be the one to lose the most.
So they WILL NOT do it on the West's geopolitical and economic time-table.
It's more a case of Iran saying, "do ya feel lucky? ... punk? ... well do ya? ... go ahead ... make my day".
The Saudis and Gulf Emerites should be thinking very carefully if they really want this, because this means decades, if not centuries of reprisals if they back the West to smash Iran, to preserve Israel.
And likely from surprising locations and groups.
Police tonight are looking for a female bankrobber in Tehran. She is described as having brown eyes.