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Iran To Hold New "Massive" Naval Exercise Near Straits Of Hormuz, To Run Parallel With Joint US-Israel Wargame

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The selloff in crude yesterday, provoked by this Reuters article stating that Iran is ready to resume nuclear talks with the West, is now well over and the accumulation has again resumed, following (not so) stunning news that merely days after its 10 day Straits of Hormuz military exercise ended, the country is already preparing for yet another, "massive" naval exercise. As RT reports, "Iran is planning to hold new “massive” naval exercises near the strategic Strait of Hormuz within the next few weeks, the country’s Fars news agency has said, as Tehran’s tensions with the West continue to escalate following threats of new sanctions against the Islamic Republic over its controversial nuclear program." And this time the wargame comes with a twist - it will likely occur just across from a comparable drill ran jointly by the US and Israel: "The newly announced Iranian drills, codenamed The Great Prophet, may coincide with major naval exercises that Israel and the United States are planning to hold in the Persian Gulf in the near future. AP quoted on Thursday a senior Israeli military official as saying the drills would be held in the next few weeks." And since the Tonkin Gulf Resolution script is being used point by point, any lost escalation "chances" in the end of 2011 will surely be regained within days.

From RT:

Iranian Defense Minister Ahmad Vahidi was quoted in the Fars report as saying the Islamic Revolution Guards Corps was planning to conduct “its greatest naval war games” near the Straight of Hormuz in the near future.

 

The announcement came just days after the Iranian navy completed its 10-day naval exercises near the Strait of Hormuz. The drills were held after the Islamic Republic threatened to block the waterway, where an estimated 40 percent of the world's seaborne oil passes, in response to Western plans to ban oil imports from Iran. The Islamic Republic derives some 60 percent of its budget revenues from oil exports.

 

The exercises, called Austere Challenge 12, which both Israeli and U.S. officials have described as the largest-ever joint drills by the two countries, are designed to improve missile defense systems and co-operation between the U.S. and Israeli forces.

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Fri, 01/06/2012 - 08:39 | 2038630 GeneMarchbanks
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My War Game is bigger than yours!

 

The Great Prophet. Is this what happens when men-children with nukes take over?

Fri, 01/06/2012 - 08:43 | 2038643 disabledvet
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i'm sorry. did you call them..."men children with nukes"?

Fri, 01/06/2012 - 08:58 | 2038663 GeneMarchbanks
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Does it not seem like Rob Riggle's character from The Goods is now world leader?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6hI0rFZ_w8&feature=related

Fri, 01/06/2012 - 10:04 | 2038921 Badabing
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Where can I get a boat like that? Perfect for summer weekends on the great south bay.

Ill definitely get a spot at Flynn’s with that thing. Excellent bug out boat!  

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user5/imageroot/2011/12/Iran%20boat.jpg

Fri, 01/06/2012 - 11:54 | 2039307 Jreb
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Was thinking the same thing. Thought it would be great fun to tease Green Peace boats with in the PNW. Nice looking boat anyways. Wonder if it would sleep a family of four???

Fri, 01/06/2012 - 14:12 | 2039966 Badabing
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If you don't like that one take your pick.

http://www.sanfranciscosentinel.com/?p=85526

 

Sat, 01/07/2012 - 15:50 | 2042484 gravedestruction
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Don't know - but here's a closer look to help decide on procuring one...

http://media.zenfs.com/en_us/News/Reuters/2011-12-30T191149Z_202532918_G...

Decent looking vessel for a missile launching fishing trip.

Fri, 01/06/2012 - 08:53 | 2038669 DogSlime
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more dangerous than "sharks with frikken lasers"?

Fri, 01/06/2012 - 09:08 | 2038685 Mark Wilson
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Lol! :)

Fri, 01/06/2012 - 09:12 | 2038692 Ghordius
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hey, DogSlime, I paid good money for those "sharks with frikken lasers" in my Evil Redoubt, don't you cheapen them

Fri, 01/06/2012 - 09:13 | 2038689 Ghordius
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"Austere Challenge 12" ??? This is not a codename worthy of "The Great Prophet"

First: I'm flabbergasted, I thought two-word codenames would be enough without numbers.

Second: did I miss Austere Challenges 1-11?

I propose we rename Austere Challenge 12 into "Humility Bush 2" - I definitely remember how Bush the Second was calling for Humility in foreign affairs.

But of course the crowd here would prefer "Nobel Price 1" - the Iranian Leadership would opt for "The Great Satan 666"

Fri, 01/06/2012 - 09:15 | 2038698 pan-the-ist
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Sink a couple ships and it will soon be the "Great Profit" for the ship builders and the rest of the defence industry... financed with our children's futures, assuming we win this time, which we wont.

Fri, 01/06/2012 - 11:02 | 2039111 caconhma
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It appears that Iran tells to zionists in Amarica and Israel:  "fu*k you", we are not Libya.

I must say the game becoming interesting. Iranian are doing the right things since they must closely monitor potential aggressor activities and respond immediately.

 PS

The longer America will be screwed waging zionist wars. the sooner China will get a superpower economic and military status.

Fri, 01/06/2012 - 11:28 | 2039205 sushi
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The longer America will be screwed waging zionist wars.

 

 

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But it is good for Barry O:

1) Something "happens"

2) Oil goes above $ 150 bbl

3) Global economy tanks

4) Barry blames the Great Satan. Gets himself off the hook

5) Barry has a war on his side come November

6) Barry can roll back all his defence cuts citing the Great Satan

7) Barry can proclaim his laws regarding illegal search and indefinite detention were all enacted with security of US people in mind in this form of war scenario. He demonstrates his "foresight." No one bothers to ask if his "foresight" was part of his plan.

8) Economic problems and unemployment all roll off the front pages as we get to watch the ME explode and the Great Teleprompter takes credit for the war on Great Satan.

9) Peace Prize II coming right up.

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 16:07 | 2055721 In Fed We Trust
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And the Drudge Report has this distraction fior us today.

"US denied killing Iranian Scientist with car bomb today!"

Car bomb us the distraction while ship number two moves in,

I still say the first bomb dont drop until oil is at 150.

Yes that includes night time trading too.

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Do you see it what happens Larry....
When you park 2 ships in the Straight of Hormel Chili?

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 16:12 | 2055746 In Fed We Trust
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Satans last trade:

Long Oil
Short S&P

All profits, reinvested

Long Oil
Short S&P

Fri, 01/06/2012 - 19:56 | 2041087 Nexus789
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Which ones are you referring to? The Iranians have operational weapons technologies that are far in advance of the US in some vital areas...such as radar avoiding supersonic missiles (Mach 2.5+), one type of which carries a 300kg warhead, 300mph cavitating torpedoes and the most advanced passive raders in the world which are linked to some of the most advanced missile batteries. The small subs they have are ideally suited to the location and they are very quiet. 

Sure the US, without intervention from Russia and China, would prevail simply from a material perspective but it would be a very costly conflict from many dimensions. To my knowledge US warships have no defence against such fast rader defeating missles which would be launched from the backdrop of the rugged Iranian coast - hard to see them coming and the Palanx system on US ships may not have enough time to lock on as they predict a target threat against a number of criteria and one of which is a consistent reduction in range from the target - these missiles are designed to evade this.

Iran, has therefore, assumed a posture to fight a non conventional asymetrical war.

 

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 17:54 | 2056174 Mpizzie
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LOL.  I'm not fan of American militarism, but we hear this every time we are about to go to war.  The enemy has some special weapons that will defeat us.  Every single time.

And then we beat the hell out of every conventional force we face and eventually the unconventional forces. People look at Jane's and read some articles on websites and think that we are about to lose a massive battle because people have some kind of hard-on for the USA to lose a fight.  

First, you need to determine if these super weapons are real.  While we must figure they must be, we have caught Iran numerous times posting images of weapons that do not exist.  

Second, you need to determine if they have sufficient quantities to affect an actual battle.  Just because I drove by your house in a Lamborghini kit car and honked the horn - doesn't mean it's real and I have 5 more at home. Having one demo model that you shoot for state TV does not mean you have a large enough number of them for sustained operations.  

Third, you need to determine if it actually is radar avoiding.  An Aegis destroyer is vastly different than Russian ground radar systems they have been testing these missles against.  They don't even have S-400's and have limited S-300's in the mountains, not on the ocean in a Star Craft lake boat with rocket launchers.

Fourth - We have known these exist since 2006, we have defenses.  We actually look at these things and learn.  

They just finished almost two weeks of war games - they are a month, minimum, away from another war game because they have to port, refit, resupply, debrief, retrain, then go out.  That's why we are going in - because they are gone now and the chances of a blow up are lessened.  

If the Iranians win a sea battle against the Americans, I will post a video of myself eating dogshit on Youtube and post the link here - and Tyler has my actual email and can call me out.

 

Fri, 01/06/2012 - 09:26 | 2038735 cossack55
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Austere Challenge 12 is a US shortened code name for the US economy.  The full code name is "Austerity Challenge 2012".  I think the sheeple won't get it.

Thu, 01/12/2012 - 02:45 | 2057505 Kiwi Pete
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How about renaming it False Flag 12? Too truthy??

Thu, 01/12/2012 - 03:06 | 2057512 prains
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Ka mate Ka mate
It is death It is death

Ka ora Ka ora
It is life It is life
Ka mate Ka mate
It is death It is death

Ka ora Ka ora
It is life It is life

Tenei Te Tangata Puhuruhuru
This is the hairy man

Nana i tiki mai whakawhiti te ra
Who caused the sun to shine again for me

Upane Upane
Up the ladder Up the ladder

Upane Kaupane
Up to the top

Whiti te ra
The sun shines!

 

www.maori.org.nz/waiata/sound/mp3/kamate.mp3

 

 

Fri, 01/06/2012 - 09:16 | 2038701 Snidley Whipsnae
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"The Great Prophet. Is this what happens when men-children with nukes take over?"

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Idiot-men-children... Hormuz conflict to be followed by gas rationing... To be followed by an overnite explosion of counterfeit gas rationing cards... To be followed by the imprisonment of any caught using fake ration cards on grounds that they are terrorists... To be followed by construction of more prisons in US... etc, etc, etc...

Ain't Democracy great? I'm certainly glad that the founding fathers locked in our Bill of Rights!

Fri, 01/06/2012 - 12:20 | 2039430 ElvisDog
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Gas rationing for Euro-land, but maybe not for the U.S. How much of the U.S. oil comes through the Strait? Not that much if I remember. We get most of ours from Canada, Mexico, West Africa, and Venezuela I think. While it's true that oil is fungible, I'm pretty sure the U.S. would have a little talk with our Northern and Southern neighbors about who they should keep selling their oil to.

Fri, 01/06/2012 - 12:50 | 2039560 Urban Redneck
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The Candians have already said "no pipeline, then the oil goes to China"  The Europeans have the benefit of a much lower sensitivity to the relative price of oil since the taxes are so much higher in Europe, which also gives the European States the ability to lower the oil taxes, pay a higher price for crude, and keep the drain on the consumers' wallets constant.  The US does have a "strong dollar policy" it could leverage, but then the FED would have to monetize an even greater % of GDP to make up for the export loss, and further subsidize EU bailouts in the process.  The US lacks the tax policy flexibility- except with respect to developing nations which still subsidize oil prices.  So in a bidding war between the US, EU, and China, the US holds the weak hand, since it doesn't have China's (or actually any) excess foreign exchange reserves to draw down.  We already gave the Canadians and Mexicans NAFTA in pursuit of energy security, and have drawn a line in the sand on building pipeline.  At this point the Mexicans probably think we are arming the opposition, which is only one step removed from putting US boots on Mexican ground.  If Obama tries the imperial approach, I think he is going to be laughed out door and it could blow up in his face given the foreign policy "image" he is trying to project. 

Fri, 01/06/2012 - 09:47 | 2038833 steve.stuart
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Everyone should have equal rights .. if Israel can have nukes why not Iran. I thought Zerohedge is for non-biased sensible people.

Fri, 01/06/2012 - 11:01 | 2039119 Triggernometry
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Exactly

Fri, 01/06/2012 - 12:39 | 2039510 RichardP
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There are no non-biased sensible people - anywhere.  Everyone is biased in the direction of their own self-interest.  If all had equal rights, all would have equal access to my food and my land.  Ain't gonna happen.  Not here.  Not there.  Individuals, who value their own personal food and land, won't let it happen.

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 16:32 | 2055840 Jack D. Ripper
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I agree! If any Afghan peasant can own an AK-47, why shouldn't I be able to own one too?

Fri, 01/06/2012 - 09:53 | 2038863 Treason Season
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Making sure they don't miss their stop Iranian style

 

http://news.payvand.netdna-cdn.com/news/12/jan/public-hangings-Sepah-Ban...

Fri, 01/06/2012 - 09:57 | 2038890 JPM Hater001
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Boyz.  I think we have a dance off.  Get the cardboard...we be break dancin.

Fri, 01/06/2012 - 12:12 | 2039397 Think for yourself
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Looks like it might get really fucking serious. Have to time-constrain your priorities more and more.
http://rt.com/usa/news/us-troops-israel-iran-257/ 

Seriouser than ever, yet it also seems so pointless - barely a wave of fear on the surface of my meditation, and then I go back in the depths of being centered. That's the beauty of it once you've gone to the absolute time constraint - living in the now. 

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 16:11 | 2055737 Gringo Viejo
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I think "The Great Profit" more apt.

Fri, 01/06/2012 - 08:37 | 2038631 EscapeKey
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Keynesians everywhere salivating at the prospect of significant public sector spending programs.

Keynesian economics = socialism.

Fri, 01/06/2012 - 08:46 | 2038650 disabledvet
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"techno--econo--geeko's" salivating even more as the prospect of a "great white naval light" leads to whole a new slew of..."thingy's." Scary if you actually think about...what did they call it? Operation False Prophet?

Fri, 01/06/2012 - 09:20 | 2038713 smlbizman
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after watching the corporal get cut off on cnn. i am inclined to believe our guys are not so gung ho anymore....

it also led me to believe, when the time comes, they will point their guns in the right direction...

the brainwashing propaganda, just like here at home has lost its magic on our soldiers.....i could be wrong.. 

Fri, 01/06/2012 - 09:39 | 2038797 Thadeous
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You're not wrong.

Fri, 01/06/2012 - 11:07 | 2039134 JeffB
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"the brainwashing propaganda, just like here at home has lost its magic on our soldiers.....i could be wrong.. "

 

If the polls are right, and I think they are, our military strongly favors Ron Paul and his call for all wars to pass constitutional muster by being voted on by Congress rather than giving the President(s advisors?) fiat power to wage war whenever they feel the urge.

Chickenhawks like Gingrich aren't getting much support from our troops.

Fri, 01/06/2012 - 13:08 | 2039669 Socratic Dog
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I really, really, really hope you (and the polls) are right.  It would be the only true ray of sunshine in an otherwise very bleak outlook for the US political future.

Fri, 01/06/2012 - 11:09 | 2039136 JeffB
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Oops. Duplicate. Sorry. Please delete.

Fri, 01/06/2012 - 09:16 | 2038700 pan-the-ist
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Hmm.. so fascists aren't salivating over this oppurtunity?  You still don't know what those words you use mean, do you?

Fri, 01/06/2012 - 09:20 | 2038712 Snidley Whipsnae
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Pan the ist...

About your post above... The first oil tanker that is sunk in or near the Strait of Hormuz will send insurance on tankers through the roof.

Not to mention that damn few merchant marine crews will sign on for a cruise into a hot war zone.

Fri, 01/06/2012 - 09:28 | 2038742 pan-the-ist
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Point is, they'll get to extract wealth from us to "defend us" from the fucking mess they made - the fascists.

The same cocksuckers who stir up the wars profit from them.

Fri, 01/06/2012 - 09:40 | 2038805 Snidley Whipsnae
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"The same cocksuckers who stir up the wars profit from them."

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Of course. I assumed we all knew that. My point is; what is left of the US economy will be wrecked by one or more oil tanker sinkings... oil being fungible and likely to go the highest bidder.

If the oil supply to China is constrained significantly I doubt they will remain out of the conflict entirely.

Fri, 01/06/2012 - 10:53 | 2039098 kridkrid
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China wants in, IMO.  They need to rejigger their population imbalance.  Their one child policy has created a surplus of single dudes unable to find a wife and build a life.  Just my two cents.

Fri, 01/06/2012 - 11:02 | 2039123 Fedaykinx
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a large surprlus of young men is a really bad situation, historically speaking.

Fri, 01/06/2012 - 11:14 | 2039151 JeffB
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I imagine Russia doesn't want to be a silent witness to all of this. They already warned us about intervening in Syria & went on high alert a week or so ago. They're supplying Iran with a lot of their nuclear materials. Why should they sit idly by while we attack one of their clients? Well, maybe they'll benefit from the spiking oil prices, but they're still a big wild card in all of this as well.

 

Fri, 01/06/2012 - 12:34 | 2039492 kridkrid
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It's WWIII... it's baked in, I think.  Who knows who ends up on what dance card... though it would seem natural for China and Russia to be on one side, with the US on another.  Which labels get applied to which team will be largely agreed upon after the war is over and a winner is declared.

Fri, 01/06/2012 - 12:40 | 2039518 cranky-old-geezer
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Nope, not a wild card at all.

Russia will come in firmly on China's side.  They have a strong mutual defense pact with China, and they've been waiting a long time for an opportunity like this.

Iran is China's 3rd biggest oil supplier. 

Both Russia and China have warned America (and Israel) stay out of Iran.

America invades Iran it'll go thermonuclear very quickly.

Fri, 01/06/2012 - 11:43 | 2039250 eureka
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Escape - Yeah, that's right - and that includes US Elite's corporate-military-bankster-USD-World-Reserve pseudo-individualist, Collectivist Empire Keynes-sianism a.k.a FASCISM.

Remember - only little child-men buy into the pseudo-dichotomy between left and right - whereas grown ups realize that left and right slogan'ism, symbolism and dreck seduction is synergistically employed by THE ELITE to further their fraternal networks' of individual-and-fraternal abhorent hunger for power.

Socialism+Fascism = cousin forms of Keysianism = COLLECTIVISM = ELITE CONTROL.

THE ENEMY - IS - ALWAYS - THE ELITE - IN ALL ITS FORMS.

Fri, 01/06/2012 - 08:38 | 2038633 ABG LINE
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Austere Challenge?  LoL!

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