Iran To Israel: "We'll Show You Hell"
While we are looking for the full IAEA report blasting Iran and specifically its nuclear program, claiming that Iran carried out work relevant for developing nuclear arms according to a UN report citing 'credible' info, as well as having information of activities in Iran specific to nuclear weapons, we already know what Iran's response is to any potential 'provocations' from Israel. To wit: "We'll show you 'hell'" UPI explains: "Israel will learn the true meaning of "hell" if it decides a military strike against Iran is worth the risk, an Iranian national security official said. Israeli Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu is said to have been reviewing strike plans against Iran's nuclear infrastructure as the International Atomic Energy Agency expressed concerns about Tehran's nuclear ambitions. Iranian officials have said any attack on its nuclear infrastructure would be suicidal." And the soundbites keep getting better: "If a military challenge is started against Iran in the region, the Zionist regime will definitely be faced with a hell," Javad Jahangirzadeh, a lawmaker on Iran's national security commission, told the semiofficial Fars News Agency." Israeli Defense Minister Ehud Barak, in a Tuesday interview with Israel Radio, said Israel doesn't want war. If dragged into conflict, he said, the casualties would be low. "Israel is the strongest country in the region and it will stay that way," he added." And while a few weeks or even days ago, the outcome of this event would have been easily predictable, following the just announced "microphone" gaffe involving Sarkozy, Obama and Netanyahu, suddenly the odds are far more interesting. Regardless, at this point, aside from concluding that Keynesians everywhere must be rejoicing at the imminent GDP boost driven by the military-industrial complex, we can also venture to gamble: short glass manufacturers. In a few months there may be a natural glut.
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bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb iran
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-zoPgv_nYg
Yea but where? Over 80 'possible nuclear sites' all over Iran North South East and West.
Really....this question gets 'thumbs down'? Why, because you cant answer the simple question? WHERE are you going to 'bomb'?
The only way Barry & Associates (including the Zionist warmongers) can justify a war against the Islamic Republic of Iran is by staging another false flag attack on continental United States: most likely a controlled nuclear explosion (dirty bomb) targeting a major urban concentration that may kill dozens of thousands of civilians.
This operation will be carried out by the CIA in partnership with Mossad and MI6 to subsequently be blamed on AlQaeda working in conjunction with elements of Iran's IRGC and Pakistan's ISI.
Besides that, Americans are a bunch of stupid animals easy to manipulate and subdue. The psychological impact of this event will elicit the brute and ignorant populace to demand a massive retaliation against the alleged perpetrators (explicitly Iran); the Obama administration will need the unconditional support of these mules in order to further their agenda.
Absent of this essential prerequisite (a false flag operation), President Soetoro won't be able to persuade US Congress to issue a formal declaration of war.
EXACTLY right Wankelord.
Did I miss the tin foil sale at Costco?
Too funny...
Actually Peabody you missed your critical thinking class, but it's ok, most blew off the class with you. I love how all the people who want to bomb Iran have no idea how we are going to survive 10$ gas as a nation, nor how Europe will survive 20$ gas. Their ignorance of how small the Straits of Hormuz is definitely showing.
You know we can always nuke the Straits to be a lot wider if we needed to.
I needed some humor in this thread, thx for that :)
If America / Israel / NATO (North Atlantic Terror Organization) bomb / attack / invade Iran, we can all plan on WWIII.
And it'll be all nuclear. Rothschilds / Bilderburgs / etc get their wish, reducing world population a few billion.
Have a nice day.
Formal declaration of war...I remember when they used to do that.
Never said I was in favor of bombing anybody...,
only that I am not in the school of those who believe the US/CIA/FBI attacked us on 911.
And since you seem interested, I am SO stupid, that I actually believe we send people to the moon and back. Can you believe it? I don't recall even being offered a class in critical thinking though, and that may have something to do with it. We obviously went to different schools together.
I will strive to be as thoughtful and intelligent as yourself.., cross my heart.
you're right, the FBI was clearly pushed out of the loop (Dick's orders)
The bombing comment wasn't directed at you, hence the word 'their' instead of 'your'. Also, because someone has a hard time questioning their beliefs on how the world works doesn't make them stupid, nor would I ever call you that. I would never claim i'm superior to you either, but your anger proves you'll never think outside your box. Not sure what the moon shot has to do with anything, other than try to claim i'm a conspiracy theorist. I'm sorry you are so ignorant to believe the U.S. and Israel don't plan false flags. Since the Gulf of Tonkin was proved to be fake, and the Six Day War was started based on 'reliable intelligence', enjoy your ignorance (ignorance is not stupidity, to clarify again). Thanks for the attempted insults though, but I have no superiority complex, so this doesn't really insult me.
I don't believe the US govt carried out 9/11 either (though I appear to be in the minority on ZH here), but I certainly wouldn't put it past our government to do such a thing. Nor do I discount the possibility that it's true. I just haven't been convinced, even though there are obviously discrepencies in the official story.
I don't think the above prediction is right, but I'm glad it's been made, honestly. If it does actually happen, then I would consider it fairly strong evidence of govt involvement and of that particular viewpoint as a whole. I've bashed conspiratorial thinking on this site before, but it's the trend in thinking that bothers me, not the possibility of conspiracy. Many seem to fall into the camp because they have lost all trust in government - and rightly so - but knowing they could and knowing they did are two different things. So long as one believes it from strong evidence, I'm perfectly open to the idea.
Some people here on ZH predicted the possibility of an imminent domestic terrorist attack as a cover for a crackdown on certain anti-governmental groups. Sure enough, not 5 days later, there were four senior citizens (!) arrested for plotting a terrorist attack. I found that quite fishy.
Many people seem convinced of recent/future false flag attacks because it plays so well into the agenda of certain interests in power today. Nevertheless, I don't think they NEED false flag attacks to execute their interests. As there are really hundreds of millions of people who hate the US, at most they would have to simply let security "slip up" in a certain case to get what they want.
The US, China, and Russia (et al.) are all playing at a new type of subversive warfare. We play various interests against our frenemies in such a way that we can't be found directly guilty of wrongdoing. Russia, for instance, helped train al-qaeda top brass, funneled weapons into iraq/afghanistan through other channels, an are directly aiding the construction of nuclear facilities in Iran. Meanwhile the US has aided, supplied, and militarily supported Israel for its own purposes in the same area.
It's not a proxy war, exactly, rather the next level beyond that. I don't believe there is one monolithic, controlling power at the top orchestrating events; I see a few competing groups striking each other via 4th/5th generational warfare tactics. I think that's where terrorist operations in the US come into play and what has driven various recent events in the middle east. But I could be wrong.
And I don't think you're stupid for not agreeing, naturally. Just my two cents.
I think that wanklord's thesis is certainly plausible, perhaps even probable.
For the sake of accuracy, and I hope I'm not being too pedantic, I'd like to point out that a so-called dirty bomb does not entail any kind of nuclear explosion. Rather, it employs a conventional charge to scatter radioactive contaminants. In essence, the hydrogen explosions at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant were dirty bombs, in that the explosive force came from the deflagration/detonation of a mixture of hydrogen and oxygen.
That is one source of very small radioactive particles floating in the atmosphere. The chemtrails determine where they will fall to earth.
I went out and measured radiation levels around the Olympic Peninsula WA. It is very significantly higher where they do heavy chemtrail spraying. It doesn't really matter whether the chemtrails cause clouds to form and the rain brings the particles down or whether they are spraying the particles themselves, for it comes to the same thing.
Here is a site you may or may not be aware of. Just a bunch of private citizens who purchased radiation monitors and hooked into a real time net display. It auto updates itself each minute. Sometimes monitors go offline for whatever reason. It also sounds an audible alert if the count per minute goes to >99
http://www.radiationnetwork.com/
Since when does he need a declaration of war? It will just be some "kinetic military action" that will be over in "days, not weeks."
Israel attacking Iran is the real Pandora's Box.
I've met Pandora, & her box is much nicer than that.
I hope when this WWIII thing gets started, the Chinese use their kinetic energy space weapons to destroy the entire space satellite and communication systems rendering satellite space unusable for decades.
China’s Anti-Satellite Weapon Test
http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/row/RS22652.pdf
Fine, but will I still be able to check facebook every 5 minutes?
No government would risk shutting down the internet because everyone would go outside and pitch tents in front of the ATT or Verizon store.
Actually I think the Sonnets and other very high level large internet hubs are quite valid in war. Take them out and you darken alot of information.
Hell, the Net was designed to provide a sort of a nigger-rigged survivable communications in event of all out nuclear exchange with the USSR.
As far as the bombs, just need a bunch of those very ultra deep penetrators I have heard of from time to time from Boeing. Little snippets like production was being started last year and things like that. They really should keep that stuff secret until ready for use.
The Internet protocols are designed to be surviable. Governments desires to funnel everything through checkpoints defeats the design of the protocols:)
You met her asian sister Panwhora
When was the last time the US Congress issued a formal declaration of war???
yeah, according to obummer's constitutional scholars, it would just be a "kinetic" action, so... all good. /s
or did anything constructive
5 June 1942
A what? I thought all we had to do was tell the guy "it's time to go"? that's declaratory...
Good question. I'm thinking WW II.
Puhleeze. I know of nobody that would believe any kind of attack on America would be Iran's fault. Pull the other one. People are a LOT wiser to the scams of the oligarchs these days than they ever were. They pushed their fraud and scams too far and woke the sleeping masses and now nobody trusts their government. The American people simply won't stand for another war with a country that did nothing to us. I venture to say that a lot of soldiers would tell them to go shit in their hat too after just coming home from 10 years of unending wars against 'foes' with little to no proof that they were ever really our foe to begin with.
The Amerikan people will go to war with Iran at the drop of a hat why ,the wars never bother American citizens (dancing with the stars is never stoped) 2 most Americans think Iran has Nukes, 3 the rest are just so stupid they dont't care ,as you see from the first comment on this page.
4. Hey i think al queada is being financed by Iran........
5. Take the heat off of israel - an aparthied state committing crimes according to the Geneva Convention -
4. Hey i think al queada is being financed by Iran........
5. Take the heat off of israel - an aparthied state committing crimes according to the Geneva Convention -
That was making fun of an idiot who came very close to becoming a US president but hey, feel free to read into it whatever you like.
We have been at war since those Marines got blown up in Beruit and no one did a goddamn thing.
Fallujah was revenge best served fast and hard.
Why were we in Beruit? I am not condoning the killing of marines, but we shouldn't have been there in the first place.
Why is a matter of conjecture. What we were doing there was saving Arafat's ass, when we should have been killing the filthy bastard and his cohorts.
Not even close.
Very much closer than you could know. Arafat was the son of the Mufti of Jerusalem and had at least 9 private audiences with the Pope. He was an integral part of Rome's plans to regain Jerusalem and therefore a protected son of the CIA.
I would surmise that you adhere to the Vatican Assassins ideology ( I don't). I know the Vatican has a lot of power and influence, but are you suggesting that they pulled the strings to have U.S. Marines protect Arafat? If they had this much power then why didn't they just stop the IDF from attacking through U.S. coercion. When Palestine was under British Mandate wouldn't it have been much easier for the Vatican to gain control? When Jerusalem and the West Bank were occupied by Jordan wouldn't that have been an opportune time too? I don't doubt the Vatican's attempts to control Jerusalem, but they seemed to have failed miserably which doesn't add up if they are controlling the world.
Regardless the marines or any military shouldn't be put in harms way unless the U.S. is directly threatened or attacked.
I don't "adhere" to any ideology. I take in all points of view, do my own research, and attempt to connect the dots. Phelps provides a lot of useful research, but is also blinded by his own religion into seeing connections that raise contradictions. His overall thesis is, however, sound and provides a better fit to events than does conventional "It's the Joos! ... No, it's the bankers! ... No, it's the Catholics!" of mainstream debate.
It's more complex than that. They don't micro-manage individual events from a central "war room"!
Rather, they provide and support an intellectual and political framework that includes very influential plants in all areas of government and industry who are working towards the Luciferian ideology of a global super-state ... but each with their own view of what would be "helpful" or "expected".
This means that sometimes one arm is unwittingly working against another to create "unintended consequences". It should also be recognised that even the Vatican itself has opposing factions struggling for control at every turn and within each generation.
That's why they have not achieved overall success in well over 500 years of attempting to stifle freedom ... and will continue to fail, IMO. The current fiasco in Europe is just one example of their failures.
As to your specific tactical questions, I could write a book on each of them. Let's just say thet contrived "problem" and contrived "reaction" don't always result in the expected contrived "solution"!
Central planning doesn't work but they'll still keep trying.
Thanks for the clarifications. Glad I'm not the only one that sees the contradictions in Phelps connections. I am not convinced that the NWO is of the Luciferian ideology, but I haven't really researched it extensively.
I think society is being conditioned by the gov. and media to see Iran as evil just as Saddam was ( I know its obvious). The Iraqi war was a long time in the making and this one is too. By the time we go to war with Iran the economy will be so bad that many will join the military just to have a job. The U.S. has to get control of as much oil as possible to ensure the reserve currency status as well as squeezing out Russian and Chinese control and influence. Whoever controls the worlds oil, will control the economies of the world including their monetary systems. If Iran acquires nuclear weapons that would be a game changer that the U.S. can't allow.
I wish you were right but you're wrong. If Americans were awake, Ron Paul would be running away with the GOP nomination by now. We're still asleep. We might be in a coma.
As the saying goes, the louder a dog bark, the smaller he is.
Iran is a weak country, to make up for it, they scream... they are trying to bluff us, but if you take a close look at the Iranian military, you would know that NATO would have total air superiority within a few days, easy.
Now if you though of invading... that would go like Iraq.
If you thought of OCCUPYING... now that's suicide.
Occupying is the only way (aside from regime change) to make sure they never get nukes.
But just bombing them (just like Osirak) will make sure they get nukes...
If you remember Iraq post-Osirak... before Osirak, they had something like 700 scientists working on a program... and they would be able to do 1 bomb every year... and they had a budget of $400 million.
After the strike : team of 8000+ scientists. Aiming for 6 bombs a year. Budget of $10 billion.
So go ahead Israel, bomb Iran and see what happens.
Don't forget all the Russian nuke scientists at the Iranian sites. Or the former Soviet chemical and biological scientists Iran picked up for a song after the 'Stans broke off and they were hungry.
Zombie Amerika
Amen. I hope 'merikens have is awoken to the old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again
Sok...now there was a great prez, thanks for the memories of ole GW! /sarc
I respectfully disagree; look at the person to the left and right of you. Unless you live in one of the relatively enlightened pockets of the U.S.A., you are looking at a television addict (4+ hours a day, more than I watch in a month) who cannot find the countries in question on a map; and who is growing increasingly frustrated in general.
All they have to do is steer that.
Well said Saxxon. All they need to do is control the flow of the angst. After stoking it obviously.
ORI
Paying Attention
my guess is it'd be on the Mexican border. Any thoughts on where?
"my guess is it'd be on the Mexican border."
Don't say that! Real estate prices here in San Diego are just now starting to stabilize and now you want to put a big bullseye on us?
sorry border town, but if you look at the U.S. it's the only hot spot that makes sense. Remember the whole telegraph that Iran was using Mexican drug gangs to assassinate the Saudi ambassador. However, the border is long so it could happen in TX, AZ, NM or CA...CA wouldn't lose O any votes so it's my #1 odds on favorite.
I wouldn't worry, San Diego, because when Mexico invades, they are going to rename you "Tiajuana Heights", should be good for a RE boost
LoL
As if "San Diego" needs to be renamed...
But Tijuana does sound a lot more enticing than San Diego.
hee-haw, hee-haw
You haven't been to Tijuana have you?
edit: Bolwevil clearly has visited though...
You already have a gigantic bulls eye on your west coast for a variety of reasons.
Screw the property values, relocate east and enjoy greater freedom and lower taxes along with a reduced threat of problems.
It'd need to be a big enough and recognizable enough, so maybe El Paso, TX, Noglaes or Tucson, AZ, or San Diego?
My guess is they'd pass on SD because there's too much military presence and it's too valuable. There are radiological scanners at the main border entry points, so it needs to be a plausible fence jump. Feds like Cali, too. They hate AZ and TX, so that'd be my bet, unless they want to go the "it could happen to you" route and nail the heartland, like Sioux City, Iowa.
I used to live on the border and my guess is definetly Texas or Arizona. El Paso has the second largest military base in the world so my guess is one of those small mexican border towns where mass drug smuggling happens.
TPTB are not going to interfere with their main cash cow: tax-free profits from drug trafficking into the US, particularly over the Mexican border! You're probably also unaware that the flow of both drugs and Mexicans into the US border states is aided and abetted by DC!?
Nope ... the bad news will be for Detroit....
You know, I was going to reply to you. I had it all written, but then I figured someone would soon be coming in the night to drag my ass off for some nice political rehabilitation and maybe not just me alone, but my near and dear as well, so I decided to shut my trap. I find myself doing that a lot lately. I don't think I'm having a psychotic break with late onset paranoia either. "By the pricking of my thumbs..."
-1Trillion for the Chaim Witz picture
I think I'll keep him anyway.
It will be along there probably Nogales most of all. Then Laredo.
Eagle Pass is just too quiet and Yuma has the Marines in the area.
Anything else is just too far to walk in any weather without water. You cannot carry enough to stay alive to cover the distance required to reach good ground.
If it was instigated by the current administration, it would be Alabama, Missisippi or the Florida Panhandle. Fallout would then go over SC, GA and lower NC. Less protected beaches and ports for entry, coastal states to make it look like a logical and viable attack from Iran. There are big concentrations of Arabs and Mexican illegals down in those states.
This would have the additional effect of killing the most Republican electoral college hopes and best chances of inciting war mania among the remaining conservatives.
I thought it might be Chicago. You've got a former IDF member as Mayor and Lucky Larry Silverstein bought the Sears Tower. If it worked once, it will work again. Americans never learn.
THe Chicago false flag would also hit the "it could happen to you" thread as well. I believe it will be DC or Chicago. What a better way to sweep the republic aside and install a dictator than to waste DC.
You could be right about DC. Then the UN could take us over - all for our own protection of course and to protect us against those 'evil terrorist'.
Detroit, they will kill Blacks and Muslims and then make it look like Iran did it. I'll bet 500 on it.
them's registered Democrats - Acorn division. Can't reduce their numbers.
Why not? In Chicago they still vote after they die. Why not Motown?
How could you even tell if a nuclear disaster struck Detroit?
I resent that comment.
Dave Bing
the house prices would go up
Instead of wreckage you'd see the foundations of the houses.
I bet if you sent a journalist that has never been to Detroit and tell them a nuclear bomb fell on the city they'd believe you. LMAO!
ouch! <lulz>
Detroit will make a fine training ground for Hell in the city.
Hate to say it but the smart ones have fled the place already.
I think I see an oppourtunity. Buy a few houses for a couple of hundred dollars and offer them as timeshare for SHTF preparedness training. Two week rental includes: no power, no running water, 6 gallons of drinking water, 1 case of canned cat food, and a broken can opener.
Fuck your mother. You've got too much time.
So are you also saying 9/11 was a setup? Do you really believe Ahmadinejad loves americans? I am not saying to go bomb them, but I would not trust that government either. He is the same guy that questioned wether the Holocaust ever happened. Was that a setup too? I could see him wanting to usher in the return of the Mahdi and really wanting to nuke Isreal.
Ahmadinejad hates the Jewish people. Long histroy of antisemitism in Iran, "Land of the Aryans." Hating jews is different than nuking of the planet. Way for us to fight anti semitism and hate is help each other out, not fight with guns.
>Ahmadinejad hates the Jewish people.
I'm not so sure. Ahmadinejad is ethnically Jewish (his parents were Jews). Maybe he just hates Zionism?
Even idiots allowed to post on ZH. The father, Ahmad religious Shia, but low class, so probably jealous of the smart attractive Jew.