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Iran Military Shoots Down US Drone, Threatens Response

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From PressTV:

A senior Iranian military official says Iran's Army has shot down a remote-controlled reconnaissance drone operated by the US military in the eastern part of the country.


The informed source said on Sunday that Iran Army's electronic warfare unit successfully targeted the American-built RQ-170 Sentinel stealth aircraft after it crossed into Iranian airspace over the border with neighboring Afghanistan.


He added that the US reconnaissance drone has been seized with minimum damage.


The RQ-170 is a stealth unmanned aircraft designed and developed by Lockheed Martin Company.


The US military and the CIA use the drone to launch missile strikes in Afghanistan and in Pakistan's northwestern tribal region.


The unnamed Iranian military official further added that “due to the clear border violation, the operational and electronic measures taken by the Islamic Republic of Iran's Armed Forces against invading aircraft will not remain limited to the Iran's borders.


The report comes as the United States has beefed up its military presence in and around the Persian Gulf region in recent months in the wake of popular uprising in Bahrain.


The US Department of Defense says Washington is closely monitoring the developments in Bahrain, which is the headquarters of the US Navy's Fifth Fleet and holds some 4,200 US service members.

From Reuters:

Iran's military said on Sunday it had shot down a U.S. reconnaissance drone aircraft in eastern Iran, a military source told state television.


"Iran's military has downed an intruding RQ-170 American drone in eastern Iran," Iran's Arabic-language Al Alam state television network quoted the unnamed source as saying.


"The spy drone, which has been downed with little damage, was seized by the Iranian armed forces."


Iran shot down the drone at a time when it is trying to contain foreign reaction to the storming of the British embassy in Tehran on Tuesday, shortly after London announced that it would impose sanctions on Iran's central bank in connection with Iran's controversial nuclear enrichment programme.


Britain evacuated its diplomatic staff from Iran and expelled Iranian diplomats in London in retaliation, and several other EU members recalled their ambassadors from Tehran.


The attack dragged Iran's relations with Europe to a long-time low.


Washington and EU countries have been discussing measures to restrict Iran's oil exports since the United Nations nuclear watchdog issued a report in November with what it said was evidence that Tehran had worked on designing an atom bomb.  

And from AP:

Iran's semiofficial Fars news agency says the country's armed forces have shot down an unmanned U.S. spy plane that violated Iranian airspace along its eastern border.


The report says the plane was an RQ170 type drone and is now in the possession of Iran's armed forces. The Fars news agency is close to the powerful Revolutionary Guard.


Iran is locked in a dispute with the U.S. and its allies over Tehran's disputed nuclear program, which the West believes is aimed at the development of nuclear weapons. Iran denies the accusations, saying its nuclear program is entirely peaceful.

It appears Iran plans to retaliate:

Iran's response to the downed U.S. drone's violation of its airspace will not be limited to the country's borders, a military source told state television.


"The Iranian military's response to the American spy drone's violation of our airspace will not be limited to Iran's borders any more," Iran's Arabic language Al Alam television quoted the military source as saying, without giving details.


Iran said in July it had shot down an unmanned U.S. spy plane over the holy city of Qom, near its Fordu nuclear site.

As a reminder from Stratfor, here is how the US navy was deployed most recently as of Wednesday. Looks like life for the Stennis boys is about to get exciting.


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Sun, 12/04/2011 - 11:11 | 1943708 GeneMarchbanks
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And it's over folks.

It's unmanned I believe, so it really shouldn't be that big of a deal. Although the desperation is getting obvious..

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 11:18 | 1943753 Comay Mierda
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Nasty false flag coming soon in the USSA, obummer needs to get his approval rating up!

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 11:22 | 1943762 GeneMarchbanks
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That doesn't make any sense. Election year, so you'll get what you always get: Smear campaigns, massive fund raising, probably some sort of stealth QE for the sheeples...


Sun, 12/04/2011 - 11:26 | 1943780 Oh regional Indian
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He is a single term president Gene, but a life time Czar, don't you see?

The Kabukification of the planet is beyond obscene now. Twisted, strange, phantasmogorical..




Sun, 12/04/2011 - 11:41 | 1943828 Comay Mierda
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Makes perfect sense. I can hear it now. "Amerika needs to stay strong in this time of great war. We shouldn't be replacing our leaders as it will show weakness to our iranian enemies. I propose to halt elections until we succeed with our kinetic actions. Remember, I have a peace prize!" - obummer

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 11:45 | 1943849 sabra1
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my avatar awaits!

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 11:53 | 1943863 dwdollar
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Expect this to be spun by the MSM as an aggressive move by Iran.

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 12:17 | 1943947 john39
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how dare they shoot down a U.S. spy drone trying to do "god's" work... /s

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 12:30 | 1944001 optimator
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What next, arrest "Hikers" from the U.S. that just happen to like hiking in Iraq and happen to not have a GPS, and happen to stray over the border into Iran?

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 12:36 | 1944028 wisefool
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How about the "opposition" (republican) candidate that pays a less effective tax rate than our patrioitic american single moms?

Obama 2012. Profit from it!

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 12:49 | 1944077 Popo
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Is that an actual photo of the type of drone that was downed?

Because throwing a photo up there is deeply irresponsible if it's not what was shot down.

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 12:52 | 1944089 wisefool
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+1. It would be interesting if we had the facts regarding the tools of core agression. ... whether foriegn or domestic... not for me ... but for the less sophisticated folks.

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 13:26 | 1944211 Temporalist
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How the Drone Warfare Industry Took Over Our Congress Drones play an increasing role in foreign wars, on the border, and in Congress.

November 30, 2011

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 13:32 | 1944230 macholatte
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Will this be the first war fought only "After Hours" when the market is closed?

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 14:05 | 1944306 macholatte
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If Iran, Russia and China were serious about ending the "USA Imperialist Aggression" all they would need to do is buy the election for Ron Paul.  So I think they are also full of shit and want another war as bad as the banksters so everybody can re-boot into a NWO. Ever get that feeling you're a pawn and you've just been moved to another position on the board? I hear Japan is selling used HazMat suits cheap.    JMHO


Ron Paul: ‘I’d like to think of myself as the flavor of the decade’



It must be nice being President... Obama to jet off to Hawaii for SEVENTEEN DAY Christmas vacation


Sun, 12/04/2011 - 14:39 | 1944397 ArmchairRevolut...
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Our aggression hurts us more than it hurts them. I think they are waiting for us to self destruct.

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 14:51 | 1944412 macholatte
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The US Republican race is dominated by ignorance, lies and scandals. The current crop of candidates have shown such a basic lack of knowledge that they make George W. Bush look like Einstein. The Grand Old Party is ruining the entire country's reputation.

Tough times demand tough and smart minds. But all these dopes have to offer are ramblings that insult the intelligence of all Americans -- no matter if they are Democrats, Republicans or neither of the above. Yet just like any freakshow, this one would be unthinkable without a stage (in this case, the media, strangling itself with all its misunderstood "political correctness" and "objectivity") and an audience (the party base, which this year seems to have suffered a political lobotomy).

A Club of Liars, Demagogues and Ignoramuses,1518,800850,00.html

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 15:53 | 1944566 Things that go bump
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The poor crop of ignoramuses and buffoons the republican party is offering up only confirms my conviction that the real power lies elsewhere and for whom we vote no longer matters - the POTUS is just the face it wears and he does as he is told.  The new boss will be the same as the old boss, just as Obama's policies are quite indistinguishable from Bush's and the new Republican President's policies will be indistinguishable from Obama's.  Our government has been coopted by people who are quite unreachable by any vote we cast.  I am done playing their game.  I withhold my consent.

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 16:23 | 1944668 Real Estate Geek
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Sun, 12/04/2011 - 16:22 | 1944669 Real Estate Geek
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Did you notice that RP was not mentioned ONCE in that screed?

It appears that the author wrote the headline before the article.

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 17:21 | 1944823 Flakmeister
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You might want to brush up on your reading skills

Meanwhile, Michele Bachmann has fallen off the wagon, although she's still tolerated as if she's a serious contender. Ron Paul's fan club gets the more excited, the more puzzling his comments get. Jon Huntsman, the only one who occasionally makes some sort of sense, has been relegated to the poll doldrums ever since he showed sympathy for the Occupy Wall Street demonstrators.

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 17:38 | 1944853 Temporalist
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Well of course they can't actually say that he's lied or demagogued or is an ignoramus.  They can only claim that his comments are puzzling but when a bunch of keynesian money printers and elitists are puzzled by one's comments it is the best thing going for you.  Why would they understand not wanting to kill people around the world for peace when they only have their own gain in mind?

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 17:51 | 1944882 Chuck Walla
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Hunntsman out Progressives even Mitt.  He is the RINO poster Boy after McCain goes,

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 14:55 | 1944425 LawsofPhysics
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The marxist jews that already control Russia were some of the orginal NWO members.  They are some of the most ruthless and vile people to walk the earth and they know full well what is going on in the one world government as they have been part of it for 100+ years.  They will likely facilitate the war in so much as it will bring a much quicker destruction of the U.S.A.  China is the outcast here.  Either way, now things get interesting moving forward for sure.

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 17:04 | 1944779 Michael
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Don't worry, their global government was destroyed when we launched the Climategate e-mail attack that destroyed their global carbon tax mechanism.

No global government tax, no global government.

Second volley of Climategate e-mails recently released insures total destruction of their NWO plans.

Check out Climategate 2.0 at Climate Depot and Watts Up With That.

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 15:13 | 1944471 DionysusDevotee
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Have you listened to RT?  They're trying their best.  What are they supposed to do, "Hi, Were the communists, and we support Ron Paul, now please stop trying to take over the planet" ? 

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 16:21 | 1944667 Mauibrad
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Not much different than Hamas running phonebanks for Obama in 2008 in Gaza and then him paying back Hamas with taxpayer money with one of his first acts in office.

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 17:02 | 1944774 macholatte
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Actually there is a big difference (if I understood your comment). RT has a small audience and their programs do not have anything close to the impact of a large amount of cold, hard cash used to buy the MSM. The campaign donations gathered by Hamas were well known before the election and served as a clear slap in the face of the American Sheeple as the Progressives spit on American law.  In order for Iran, China and Russia to buy the election of any candidate, they would need to threaten the MSM with a great deal of money laundered through any number of avenues which is not beyond their capabilities.  The cost is nearly insignificant compared to a military war operation and the result can be much more enriching.  Just look at what the Soros Machine has done to America since they installed a Communist-Muslim as POTUS.


The end justifies the means.

-- Alynski


Sun, 12/04/2011 - 19:20 | 1945077 Libertarian777
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The irony is Ron Paul is a bigger threat to the ruling elites in Iran than the current administration.

Remember, while the USA keeps sanctions and military threats against Iran, the Iranian powers that be have a 'we need more power, we need a larger military, we need your civil liberties to protect you from the threat of American invasion'.

When Ron Paul comes to power, and does the complete opposite, starts selling refined gasoline to Iran, helps them build a nuclear reactor (that cannot proliferate nuclear weapons), opens an embassy, Ahmadenijad and Khomeni will have to explain to the people why they cannot have the same liberties.

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 19:36 | 1945117 wisefool
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And when Ron Paul gets elected the opposite occurs here. Instead of being oppressed by religious fundementalism as people are in the Islamic world are. Our "liberated" minds will have to start paying for our own sins. Case in point, since single moms pay more taxes than Mitt Romney, and single moms will control this election. Most people dont know that if you are good at dodging child support you get the bounus of dodging taxation. And vica versa. And like Fitch says "It is bizzare how you dont even tax consumption in any meaningful way ...."

He's not a saint and he will not accomplish most of the things he tries. But he would be the best traction possible of getting the globe out of this rut. Ron Paul 2012.

Mon, 12/05/2011 - 02:58 | 1945940 TruthInSunshine
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Wake the f*ck up, people.

Zero Hedge is full of diverse but also aware regulars. While we don't agree on all issues all the time, we do tend to see things more accurately than most with the red pill filter assisting us.

The ONLY thing that will harken any sort of significant change in the United States or throw a monkey wrench into the cogs of the machinery marching us on a slow but relentless grind into the assimilated one world borg is if things get painful enough for a majority of the sheeple quickly enough, so they actually take the time to pull their heads out from their asses and do even a modicum of basic, independent research on the whys and whos as to what's turned their little American Dream upside down.

Otherwise, it's all a slow simmer leading to a nice, calm death. No quick boil.

I'll believe real and positive change is afoot when there are tens or hundreds of thousands of protesters marching angrily upon the New York Branch of the Federal Reserve, demanding an end to any private central bank, whatever name it goes by, and a return of the coinage of money to the Congress, as the Constitution mandates.

- Whether Congress screws things up and people over as badly as the private fractional reserve central banksters and those who employ them is another question altogether, but let's get one step done at a time.

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 13:35 | 1944242 wisefool
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"It is well that war is so terrible, otherwise we should grow too fond of it"

-- Sent from my tax free I-Pad, to Professor Paul (wanna be, check the likeness) Krugman. Thank you Nancy Pelosi!

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 13:35 | 1944246 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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I guess we know what happened to those power plants.

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 17:50 | 1944878 johnu78
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Sun, 12/04/2011 - 21:15 | 1945339 CompassionateFascist
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The apparent ease with which the Iranians hacked into the computerized controls and literally flew the thing over to Iran is bullish for the resistance in our own coming Civil War. The globalist ZOGsters are probably going to be using drones against us as well.

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 19:58 | 1945173 jonjon831983
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So... I have an X-Box 360, if I get X-Box Live Gold Membership am I allowed to fly one of these and go around shooting stuff?


Cuz... that'd be cool... and any qualms about invading another country's sovereignty would be quashed as it would become like a video game.  That's one way to get the ethical dilemmas outta the window.

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 13:03 | 1944122 Floordawg
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The posted photo is a RQ-170, RQ-satisfied?

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 16:39 | 1944711 optimator
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That latest technology RQ-170 targeting drone (or was it a target drone) is now on its way to China, hope Iran took a few photos for us first!

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 13:08 | 1944148 BigInJapan
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See, there is this thing... It's called Google...
Yes, it's the same type.

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 14:05 | 1944324 Hobbleknee
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We will never know because the Iranians buried the drone at sea according to American customs.

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 17:09 | 1944703 valley chick
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What the heck?

So a reported lost drone but not aware of one shot down?  How crazy does this get?

Was one really shot down or will we never know?

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 17:11 | 1944800 MsCreant
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Linky no good.

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 17:16 | 1944807 wisefool
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I think it is a snark to the typical Ron Paul Poll. (meaning every time the MSM see ron paul anywhere near the top they 404 it)

They did the same thing this week on the ABC program "this week" 5 minutes about Santorum then 15 seconds: Lets talk about ron paul .. Okay,  he will place no lower than 3 in Iowa ... Okay thats enough talk about him ... What about John Huntsman? ..... Oh yes he could be a dark horse like Santorum .... blah blah blah ....

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 18:03 | 1944900 valley chick
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Thanks MsCreant...CNN must have pulled it or moved it.

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 16:42 | 1944709 TeamDepends
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It was actually one of those new-fangled "imaginary" drones.

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 19:23 | 1945096 I like bubbles
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5 seonds of google work





Sun, 12/04/2011 - 20:28 | 1945232 Money Squid
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pooopooo, are you so lazy that you can't look up RQ-170 to see pics and determine in two seconds if the right pic is posted? Put down that donut, brush off the powedered sugar and use those chubby fingers to search google and see for yourself.

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 23:10 | 1945642 Mesquite
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Give it a rest...

RQ-170 pictures are all over Google..

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 12:53 | 1944092 trav7777
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wtf are we doin...smh

all the patriots out there...ask yourselves what the US mentality would be if some other nation were flying a spy aircraft in our airpsace

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 13:06 | 1944138 chunga
Sun, 12/04/2011 - 13:07 | 1944145 spiral_eyes
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Iran has every right to defend itself against evil PNAC neocons.

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 13:18 | 1944185 LawsofPhysics
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Damn straight, but they are being baited by a desperate one world government backed by a large fighting force.  TPTB are hoping that Iran does respond and, I dare say, will make it look like they respond (big false flag) regardless.  Time to make damn sure you can trust the friends, family, neighbors and employees you surround yourself with.  The one world government that has been running thing for 50+ years is indeed getting desparate and the sick individuals behind the IMF/U.N. etc. are convinced they can manage another world war at this point.  It has been pre-ordained.  Same as it ever was.  Hedge accordingly.

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 13:24 | 1944207 redpill
Sun, 12/04/2011 - 13:27 | 1944218 wisefool
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Busybodies. Its what we (trained or instict) think makes the world go 'round. The alternative is probably just as bad, but I'll cast my lot with you folks here.

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 14:50 | 1944415 j0nx
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Uh huh, good luck with that when your closest 100 neighbors all hail from 100 different countries. Liberals have made sure that nobody in this country will cooperate with one another when shit hits the fan because they will all think their way is the right way and will not trust anyone else. Hip hip hooray for multi-culturalism! There is no more unity in this country because of it, certainly not in any of the population centers at least.

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 14:59 | 1944434 LawsofPhysics
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Unless you know this to be the case, you are simply rambling and that is fine with us.  Having your competition underestimate your capabilities is always a good thing.

But you are right about unity, it has never been encouraged by any government as it would lead to their immediate loss of control.  Divide and conquer has alwasy been part of the underlying two-party system.  Think about, if voting really lead to change, it would be illegal.

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 15:14 | 1944474 wisefool
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At the core of this blog is trading. Since voting is a waste and the traditional market is rigged can we get a cohisive playbook together here about how to make money from this?

I can buy intrade calls for Obama 2012. But I am not sure they are cheap enough yet. If we keep mouthing off and actually get Ron Paul in the presidency, nuetered or not, any gold positions are going to trade sideways.

I am not evil. I just want to have some money to beable to afford my taxation. Thank you ZeroHedge.

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 13:15 | 1944180 redpill
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It would be all-out war, of course.


This is when RON PAUL could stand up and say STOP THIS FUCKING MADNESS and if the media would actually carry it he would get a lot of people agreeing with him I think.

Many Iranians very much want a free democratic society.  But when you paint people into a nationalistic corner all that happens in conflict.  Which of course is precisely what is desired.  If the people of the world were at peace with each other, it would focus the attention on the universal failure of our various power structures.



Sun, 12/04/2011 - 13:27 | 1944212 Dr. No
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The US has a long history of doing nothing when someone downs our aircraft.  China anyone?? Anyone remeber that?  it was pre-911 though so people tend to forget.

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 13:34 | 1944241 macholatte
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Sheeple tend to forget anything older than the last episode of X-Factor.

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 14:01 | 1944315 jumblies
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What? It's finished? Damnit, launch cruise missiles at Cowell et al. Send in the TSA, DHS and...oh, Squirrel!


Sun, 12/04/2011 - 16:40 | 1944716 optimator
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Don't be so sure as we certainly don't arrest the "Hikers" that cross the Mexican border.

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 12:50 | 1944083 willien1derland
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I would not be surprised if the U.S. Drone had sponsor decals like NASCAR...I can see the decals now - Goldman Sachs-"Doing God's work"; Bank of America "Helping set opportunity in motion'; Morgan Stanley-"Derivatives for your Life'; Wells Fargo - "We got your Pony Express"...Democratic National Committee "Not your Father's political party"; Republican National Committee - "Herman Who?"

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 13:09 | 1944150 wisefool
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If you dont let the MIC take out their frustrations in a disembodied way, they might have the time to marry up and overpopulate like the brown people. One thing they wont do is be invited to certain publically funded debates about democracy.

Obama 2012. Profit from it! We only live so long....

Mon, 12/05/2011 - 02:46 | 1945932 Bolweevil
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Egan-Jones "We'll cut you." (C)

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 15:28 | 1944498 11b40
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......doing God's work, over their territory.

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 12:23 | 1943970 redpill
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Exactly, they should just let us violate their airspace, of course.

The absurdity is that we're supposedly keeping an eye on their secret nuclear ambitions, all of which can be done with satellites.   These drones are for tracking troop movements or mobile and rapidly changing assets. 

As for them "downing" it, I think it's more likely we lost contact with it, it crash landed, and the Iranian military recovered it.

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 12:36 | 1944022 dwdollar
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I have wondered how difficult it would be to jam the control signals used by these drones. Surely Iran has some device with this capability, courtesy of Russia or China.

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 14:41 | 1944399 DeadFred
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This is one of the more interesting and less talked about aspects of this incident- they took down a stealth drone using electronic means. Do you think the Iranians came up with that technology? They're not the dullest crayons in the box but I think they had special help withh this.

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 15:05 | 1944451 Misean
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Pfffft! These guys don't even hash the passwords. The signal is clear text.

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 15:12 | 1944467 Barnaby
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Just the US culling its aging inventory. A little obsolescence for the enemy to try and copy.

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 15:47 | 1944548 AustriAnnie
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"I think they had special help with this"

Sort of like Afghanistan had special help from the U.S. to get Russia out.  Payback time?

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 16:34 | 1944693 DeadFred
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Maybe some wonk from the Beijing Institute of Technology hacked into the control system via one of those rumored hard-wired counterfeit chips in all the US planes and was able to just remotely land the drone at a nearby airfield. Imagine if they can override pilot control on an armed FA18 landing on the Stennis or soon to arrive Carl Vinson. The victor unsually fights the next war with the old but successful tactics, the opponents often try new techniques.

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 17:17 | 1944805 FEDbuster
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EMP weapon?  China has been working on these for awhile.  Good place to test them on the Iran/Afgan boarder. 

Great book on EMP after effects is "One Second After", would take America back to pre-electricty days.  Results in a 50%+ die off in the first year.

Tue, 12/06/2011 - 14:05 | 1951548 Andy_Jackson_Jihad
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How do you know they even did it?  Those predator drones crash ALL THE TIME due to malfunction or human error (I AF pilot once told me that all the flight school flunkies fly the drones).  For all we know this damn thing lost GPS and flew into Iran by accident before running out of fuel.

If they had some super-awesome way to spoof the US controller and take control of it, why would they tell anyone?  If they jammed it, why tell anyone?  That's like rule #1...

For as often as the predators accidentally violated commercial airspace in the past it wouldn't surprise me if an Airbus landed in Tehran with this drone wedged in it somewhere.

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 14:47 | 1944405 knukles
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Pattern Recognition at Work

Iran and China are butt buddies.
The Chinese are very very good at hacking the piss out of anything they so choose.
The Chinese have seriously breached the US defense systems a la missiles over LA, subs rising amidst of carrier groups, hacking defense sattelites, fucking with public utilities... remember?
Sure you do.

The drones are flown over radio/computer, etc., etc., etc., hackable in the very end, as is any system, Believe It or Not, Ripley... 

Put two and two together and you get a hijacked drone.

Some drones are stealth.
Where for art thou little funny explosions at Iranian missile test sites come from yonder out of the blue (pun)?


As Ren and Stimpy were fond of saying; "Ren, will you get the popcorn?" 

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 12:58 | 1944105 willien1derland
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This is exactly what the 'Conservative' Republican candidates refer to about an oppressive regulatory environment - violation of air space should only apply to taxpayers & those who must bear the burden of Wall Street's inability to accept responsibility for the risks they have taken - Doesn't the Iranian Government recognize that regulations do not apply to Wall Street, K Street, or Washington DC - I mean really...They need to get with the damn program - </sarcasm off>

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 13:24 | 1944208 Seer
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"These drones are for tracking troop movements or mobile and rapidly changing assets. "

Funny, I thought that they were just wedding Pinatas!

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 14:33 | 1944336 Taint Boil
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MSM bias? Fox News - the masters of spin

Bill O'Reilly's loud mouth is not always right.

Imagine if another country was flying their stuff over our land.................

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 17:52 | 1944885 Chuck Walla
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And what a 180 it would be if this were a Republican. But, gotta support "Hope & Change" with bullets now!

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 14:21 | 1944368 DaveyJones
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and it covers the grey hair

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 11:53 | 1943864 Dr Bob
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exactly, i have been thinking that a black swan event like this would happen.

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 11:57 | 1943875 MrBinkeyWhat
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"Don't change horses in mid stream." From the movie "Wag the Dog". Must see!!!

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 13:11 | 1944158 rwe2late
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Changing times. Winner of the best election slogan is ?:

"He kept us out of war" - Woodrow Wilson

"He kept us at war" - ObombA

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 13:32 | 1944232 leftcoastfool
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Don't forget about G.W. Bush's Presidential Directive: National Security Presidential Directive 51 - It's still in effect...

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 13:47 | 1944278 Last_2_Sense
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While I don't doubt that something like that could ever happen, I do remember a shit pot full of websites saying the same thing about incurious George. Life time dictator, end of elections yada yada. 

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 17:28 | 1944835 Bobbyrib
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It's not like this would be the first time (W '04). 'We shouldn't be replacing chiefs in a time of war.' How easy the "partisans" forget.

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 19:10 | 1945062 GeorgeHayduke
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It's not like any of the mainstream Rethuglicans (Paul exluded) would be any different than Obama. In fact, they would likely beat the war drums even louder. The Military-Industrial Complex ALWAYS wins every presidential election.

Mon, 12/05/2011 - 01:55 | 1945895 Shirley Wilfahrt
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Funny....I remember a bunch of folks saying the same thing about 4 years ago....


Status Fucking QUO Motherfuckers.

Obama barely has the stones to finish his first term....much less pulling a Chavez.

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 11:42 | 1943836 Blankman
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ORI - He is only a single term president if we are not involved in some form of war.  I highly doubt he will lose his spot in the middle of a war.  Worked for Bush.

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 16:07 | 1944622 el Gallinazo
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The American Sheeple were dumber then and they still had their HELOC ATM's.  My feeling is that the average American has had a belly full of war now.  Only way to pull it off is another huge false flag on USA soil first, maybe a dirty bomb or a real suitcase nuke on a smalish city.  Otherwise it would be a big political election negative.

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 11:45 | 1943847 redcorona
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Sun, 12/04/2011 - 12:37 | 1944037 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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Desert Nomad War Tribeification.

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 18:07 | 1944912 Debt-Is-Not-Money
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And what's another name for a Kibbutz?


Complete this word: Commu....!

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 15:03 | 1944446 VyseLegendaire
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Kabukification +1 

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 15:12 | 1944466 The Big Ching-aso
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I have a feeling we're gonna bomb the Flying Fuk out of Iran whether they like it or not.

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 11:33 | 1943803 duo
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I got it.  OBL #2 that was taken out in May was a double, the real one is still out there in Pak.  Seal teams 1-5 and 7 are on it.

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 12:00 | 1943882 Elwood P Suggins
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No there is finally absolute proof that OBL is dead.

He registered to vote in Chicago last week.

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 12:12 | 1943930 rosiescenario
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.......very nice....

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 12:23 | 1943967 Abitdodgie
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I liked the way they killed the seal team that killed OBL about 2 weeks after the raid , just tieing up loose ends .

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 12:37 | 1944031 myshadow
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um, no.  There are at least 1200 men who are part of 'Seal Team 6'.  It was not specifically the people who were part of the Bin Laden raid who were killed.

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 13:46 | 1944274 steelrules
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And you know this how? From the MSM?

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 14:47 | 1944411 myshadow
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I'll get back with you when I ask them when I stopped beating my wife.

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 16:36 | 1944701 MsCreant
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Did you catch her driving? Leads to prostitution, lesbianism, and porn. Which was it for you?

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 13:32 | 1944231 NumberNone
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Looking more like Pakistan set the seal team up.  Too much of a coincidence that 24 Pakistani's killed in 'accident'.. 

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 15:13 | 1944472 marsdefIAnCe
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It is important to specify what you mean by the Seal team that took part in the raid.  There are two important classes, the first being those who actually were on the ground, and th second being those in the helis that never landed.


There was only one helicopter from which men disembarked for the raid and it blew up on lift off after the raid:


There was never the possibility of body extraction to the USS Carl Vinson.  The Seals that were murdered a couple of months later were the ones who knew this, that no body extraction was possible.  The fact that OBL was never at the compound is much more sensitive information, so the boys that hit the ground and thus knew that OBL was not present were never allowed to walk away from the raid.


The photograph of the OBL kill was simply taken off the internet.  It is a photoshop job that was in circulation, at a minimum, months before the raid:


If you are wondering where OBL is today, some useful information to follow is:


(1) Pastor Manning's interview of Wayne Madsen

(2) Sibel Edmonds testimony that OBL was an English speaking operative

(3) Minor vs. Happersett - proof of a contrived controversy - why, though?

(4) Dr. Pieczenik's discussion of a certain someone who spoke Arabic

(5) Overlayed images of OBL with a certain someone who has an identical facial structure

(6) Revelations 13

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 12:20 | 1943957 Muddy1
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Team 6 is now 8, or is it 12?

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 16:40 | 1944712 MsCreant
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If seal team 6, turned out to be 9,

I don't mind.

I don't mind.

Cause I got my own world to live through

And I ain't gonna "copy" you.

Roger that?

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 19:01 | 1945035 The Heart
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Roger that! +1,000,000,000,000


"White colored conservative flashing down the street...

Pointing their plastic finger at me...

Their hopin soon my kind will drop and die...

But...I'm going to wave my freak flag high...




Jimi Hendrix.

It was a golden age then. Where are we going next?

To those Navy fellers and girls...wave on...wave on drummer.

Mon, 12/05/2011 - 03:45 | 1945978 MsCreant
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Point on mister Bankerman
You can't live like me. 
Nobody know what I'm talking about 
I've got my own life to live 
I'm the one that's gonna have to die 
When it's time for me to die 
So let me live my life the way I want to

Yeah . . . 
Sing on brother, 
Play on brother . . . ;-)

Still sends chills. Thanks for playing with me.

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 12:55 | 1944085 BennyBoy
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How dare the Iranians defend their airspace!

We must attack them for it.

Wait...what was that?

I think I just saw an Iranian drone flying over NYC.



Sun, 12/04/2011 - 11:50 | 1943857 Ned Zeppelin
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Obama, McCain, Romney, Gingrich, etc., with the possible exception of Ron Paul, are all in the hire of the same employer. 

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 13:09 | 1944152 rodocostarica
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What do you mean POSSIBLE exception. No way RP is on that payroll

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 14:06 | 1944330 DeadFred
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I'd recommend staying away from large public events.

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 15:30 | 1944483 bankonzhongguo
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1 - You never know for sure if its true.  Where are the photos?  The Iranians need to buy some Madison Avenue.

2 - That drone will be reverse engineered in 6 months in Beijing.  There are some serious avionics on board, nevermind the airframe.

3 - The Pakistanis have the US by the short hairs with the stoppage of over-land logistics into Af-land.

4 - The price to move one gallon of fuel to any Af-land FOB just went from $400-1,000/gal to $10,000/gal.

That is a pretty good perspective on cost of that ridiculous elective war.  How long could you run a farm, business, your home on $10,000/gal air-shipped gasoline?

The service ceiling is around 50,000 feet, so how did it go down for reals?  Run out of gas?  Controls?


Sun, 12/04/2011 - 18:23 | 1944947 Buck Johnson
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Big time, big time.  With this threat, anybody can do anything and blame it on Iran.

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 12:23 | 1943971 vast-dom
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2-3 months overdue.

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 12:24 | 1943972 Muddy1
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And the Chineese military advisors were on site to gather the wreckage and begin the analysis of of our electronics to learn how to jam it, and render it ineffective.

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 13:10 | 1944153 Bunga Bunga
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Chinese will copy that thing within a year.

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 13:21 | 1944198 Bananamerican
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...and it will "warranty" within a week

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 12:24 | 1943973 reboot this mofo
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The cabal is very desperate.

It's important though we do not take the bait.  Iran, Isreal, the City, US Corporation are ALL on the same team. This is not about "gog vs. maggog", they did this, he did that, they have this, they wish to do that... its about staving off their pending global bankruptcy and loss of power. I can say this with out hestiation: any type of nuclear weapony will not be permitted on this earth plane.  Hence, a WW3 in the middle east is just a distraction for us sheep, OK.

The REAL WAR is at the top of global high finance, where the Chinese Royalty and Interantional Coaltion are going to take down the Rothschild Federal Reserve System and collapse fiat. Seen Europe lately?

The suit was filed on 11/23 in New York Federal Court.  It's and END-GAME for the banksters.

Tens of thousands are going to jail.

But, it will get worse before its gets incredible better...keep the faith!

And enjoy it, this party ride is one funky time if you ask me.




Sun, 12/04/2011 - 12:48 | 1944074 slewie the pi-rat
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link to suit that will end it all?

pls, mr troll?

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 13:31 | 1944229 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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Chinese Royalty vs European Royalty!

Someone give this guy a Golden Globe!

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 15:30 | 1944505 blindman
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presented here.
The lawsuit that could end the gangster rule of Western civilization
November 24, 2011
* Civil Action #8500 pdf file from Neil Keenan (114 pages)
By Benjamin Fulford
November 24th, 2011

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 17:02 | 1944775 slewie the pi-rat
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thx, b_man

i've seen some of this stuff here

the legal argument eludes me, but for the "you stole this and you owe us that"

why is it important that the US is not a nation, but a rothschild-owned corp?  hard to know who got sued from any of the blogs or from this link, w/out downloading the pdf, but a quick google shows this really got filed;  your link tells how the chinese entrusted the lawyer (neil keenan) w/ $1Tril worth of bonds;  he gave them to Basco, who obsconded with them, etc.  so, is this abt these bonds?  the $1Tril which this lawyer's guy stole from him?

stay tooned, eh?  fringe bloggers are gonna love this case?  the chinese dragons v. the fuking banksters for control of the world? 


Sun, 12/04/2011 - 12:49 | 1944078 MolotovCockhead
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The suit was filed on 11/23 in New York Federal Court.  It's and END-GAME for the banksters.

Are you trying to insult the intelligence of the Chinese and the readers here? Those judges are bought and paid for!! The whole American judiciary does not work any more! What good can come out of such a suit?

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 12:59 | 1944106 Sunshine n Lollipops
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A suit! (slaps forehead) Of course! Put those pitchforks down my brothers, justice is at hand. This could make the Nuremberg trials look like an episode of Judge Judy!

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 14:52 | 1944418 knukles
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***** (Knukles Five Star Rating)

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 16:45 | 1944731 MsCreant
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Or is it in fact a five knuckles rating?

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 12:38 | 1944043 Muddy1
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Richard Nixon bombing Laos

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 13:46 | 1944277 earleflorida
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does it matter what history has to say, as long as your on the right side of it?

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 13:59 | 1944311 TheMerryPrankster
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If Iran flew drones over the USA would it be okay to shoot them down?

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 15:20 | 1944484 Ruffcut
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If they fly drones over my head, I'll shoot at whoever drone it is.

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 14:06 | 1944327 SamAdams1234
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Lindsay Graham will have her war and play with her soldiers.

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 14:11 | 1944337 Blano
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Oh bullshit it's not over, it's just getting started.  Should be a rather entertaining winter.

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 14:11 | 1944338 Mugatu
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FYI - the RQ170 drone is a single engine non-armed drone and was built with the knowledge that it could be lost over enemy territory.  It does not contain any new stealth technology as a result. It is really semi-stealth and not fully stealth designed - it has a very reduced radar signature.  It is highly unlikely that Iran will get anything from its recovery.  

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 15:44 | 1944532 ToNYC
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These drone aircraft were invented by the Wrong Brothers.

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 17:04 | 1944778 RobertC
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Sun, 12/04/2011 - 17:06 | 1944785 1000pips
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This is great for the Euro/USD=$1.40 in a week !

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 17:34 | 1944847 covert
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we are going to war again, who will backup iran?


Sun, 12/04/2011 - 11:07 | 1943713 flacon
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World War III

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 11:31 | 1943796 Spastica Rex
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Not until Consumermas is over.

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 11:51 | 1943861 Ned Zeppelin
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Sun, 12/04/2011 - 12:43 | 1944057 string
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Go long Slack futures.

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 11:35 | 1943812 spanish inquisition
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WWIII's been going on for a while already.

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 12:08 | 1943913 CPL
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Exactly, the relationship between the US and China has been tense for about a year now.

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 13:25 | 1944205 LawsofPhysics
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This is a fabricated tension.  I have been working with many Chinese for over 15 years.  No tension between common men actually working together to innovate or deliver real products.  The government puppets in both countries are on the same page as TPTB are behind them in both countries and TPTB stand to profit big time from a war that kills billions.  Besides, after the war the same "owners" can buy even more real resources for nothing and return to the same old bullshit growth model.  Same as it ever was, read history and wake the fuck up already.

Besides, TPTB would love to see the entire world working for Chinese wages or less, think of the profits.

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