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Iran Military Shoots Down US Drone, Threatens Response

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Sun, 12/04/2011 - 11:17 | 1943750 mendolover
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They're trying to fly the tank.

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 11:18 | 1943754 williambanzai7
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Rather odd that something so highly top secret would not have a self destruct mechanism.

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 11:25 | 1943777 kaiten
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Absolutely. The government isnt even highly top secret and it has a self destruct mechanism ;p

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 11:29 | 1943788 williambanzai7
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More like a fatal self destructive flaw.

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 11:30 | 1943792 ISEEIT
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Good point but for all we know they landed the fucking thing at an airport. The only truth to be counted on so far is that a script is unfolding and that war is in the story. Both regimes lie and it's not unfathomable that they could in fact even be cooperating. After all it's only the sheep that die in war and the globalist may be feeling the need to cull the herd as it becomes increasingly problematic to tend.

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 12:38 | 1944038 spacecadet
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It probably ran out of gas. Couldn't get fuel ya know, the Paks got the border crossings shut down.

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 11:31 | 1943793 nmewn
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Maybe they're just waiting for the Republican Guard to push the right button.

(Akmed) Lets push the green one.

(Ali) No no the pretty red one ;-)

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 17:27 | 1944831 New_Meat
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... SA, ..., SS, NKVD, ..., "a Civilian Defense Force that is as well armed as the Military" - Ned

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 11:36 | 1943813 marcusfenix
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they might have a red button, but being remote controlled as they are it could have malfunctioned and not destroyed the drone. remember the reports that some of these drones were subject to interference, viruses and all sorts of other issues? without somebody there to actually push the button there is no guarantee it will actually do what it was designed to. 

remember blow out preventers (BOP) were supposed to be the infallible last line of defense against a deep sea oil rig disaster? well, we all know how that worked out... 

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 11:40 | 1943829 TSA gropee
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To have such a self destruct mechanism would add too much weight, besides a lucky hit by AA fire may render it inert. What the sensitive firmware/software probably has is security to erase non-volatile memory and firmware in case of attempts to reverse engineer. We do this to protect our IP (algorithms, and signal processing) especially with our systems going to China/Russia.

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 12:36 | 1944026 Dr. No
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Just wait untl Iran drags out gary Powers.  But from what I heard, WW3 did not break out from that either.

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 12:46 | 1944067 ziggy59
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Electronic warfare jams possible detonate signal?

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 13:28 | 1944219 Milestones
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Seems to me that one of the readers posted yesterday on Geo. Washington's article that there was somme Jewish guy involved in 9-11 that had a company that was capable of seizing control of a plane even if it was already in the air!! realize the guy being Jewish and we are talking about Iran doesn't seem to match up, but in todays world who knows what is going on.      Milestones

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 18:26 | 1944955 harposox
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Dov Zakheim, chief bagman for the PTB, if I remember my 9/11 studies accurately.

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 14:21 | 1944369 Bindar Dundat
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right now it is worming it's way into the entire Iran defence system. These things do not get caught or shot down and they do have a self destruct if needed but .....not needed if the mission is cyber-war.

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 15:55 | 1944577 New_Meat
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WB7: no way of knowing if there is any self-immolation available for the puppy, no way of  knowing why it came down: a) mechanical, b) "Golden-BeeBee", c) SAM (have to be a -2 or modern, nothing smaller, since they'd fly at least 15k AGL and if sniffing would be higher, d) a fighter (F-5 or so would do), or e) others, including into Art Bell ZONE.

Self-immolation of a carbon-carbon UAV has your meme in near prox.  Poor veggie seller couldn't sell veggies and, well, he showed them ...

Does Iran have search and guidance/vectoring radars?  Could  this be a "Polish Minesweeper"?

I am surprised that this forum would take statements from <who?> and extend them to the realm of "possibly close to general facts" or in some's perspective "<so-and-so> is totally responsible for this situation".

- Ned

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 11:18 | 1943756 Mr. Lucky
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2011 equivilant of Gary Powers?

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 11:38 | 1943819 spanish inquisition
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Yes, they are giving the plane back after the Chinese have gone over it, but are holding the computer chip hostage.

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 14:46 | 1944410 DosZap
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but are holding the computer chip hostage.

 

Why?, it's Chinese made.

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 11:43 | 1943842 TSA gropee
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I was thinking of the mid-air collision of the Chinese F8 and our EP-3 back in 01 where it needed to make an emergency landing on Chinese soil. I also remember it being returned in pieces. http://articles.cnn.com/2001-04-01/us/us.china.plane.02_1_spy-plane-chin...

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 11:20 | 1943760 americanspirit
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BTW although FARS isn't carrying this story yet here's the link to their website   http://english.farsnews.com/NewsV.php?news=all

 

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 11:20 | 1943761 bernorange
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This really doesn't feel like a Bud Light moment.

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 11:22 | 1943766 ghengis86
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Got brent?

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 11:23 | 1943767 Jason T
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Everybody needs to rewatch the movie "The Day After" 1983  ... then you'll wake the fuck up how idiot these war mongers are.  

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 11:23 | 1943769 marcusfenix
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so two reported explosions at two separate Iranian military facilities and now (if true) a drone gets shot down violating their airspace...hmmm.

perhaps their is a connection between these events?

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 11:24 | 1943770 lolmao500
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According to the STRATFOR map, the Carl Vinson is also heading for the 5th fleet area of operations (middle-east)... and they already have the Stennis there... And the GHWBush is nearby if needed.

3 aircraft carriers in the middle-east... yeah last time there was war.

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 14:15 | 1944352 boiltherich
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Four, the Lincoln is leaving for the middle east on Wednesday.  Also, as of tomorrow the Nimitz will be finished with it's one year rehab in Bremerton and available to head out.  If the Reagan leaves SD, or the Eisenhower, or Big E leaves Norfolk, well no more wondering. 

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 11:24 | 1943771 LookingWithAmazement
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Finally, Armageddon.

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 11:25 | 1943778 wally_12
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Is it just me? Why do these things seem to happen on the weekend when markets are closed? Our satellite pictures are probably better than a RQ-170 pictures. Only advantage might be thermal images.

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 11:39 | 1943825 Instant Wealth
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Maybe they are spraying fertilizer on poppy fields.

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 12:01 | 1943890 LongBallsShortBrains
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I don't think they are taking pictures......

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 12:48 | 1944076 LookingWithAmazement
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Must be a conspiracy.

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 13:48 | 1944282 navy62802
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Satellites don't have the possibility of being shot down over Iran. See, you have to manufacture a pretext. Hard to do that if you're just using satellite images.

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 11:30 | 1943791 PulauHantu29
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Game time!

Watch $220 oil.

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 12:48 | 1944072 SilverTard
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Personally I am thinking $300-500

 

 

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 12:49 | 1944080 LookingWithAmazement
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Saudia will tap some extra crude. Problem solved. Always the same. System keeps going. Just like the $$ and the euro.

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 13:02 | 1944121 magpie
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That will work until Russia and Iran think sending guns and ammo to the protestors in Bahrain and Saudi is a good idea.

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 13:49 | 1944288 navy62802
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Go long glass futures.

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 11:30 | 1943795 Lord Welligton
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the operational and electronic measures taken by the Islamic Republic of Iran's Armed Forces against invading aircraft will not remain limited to the Iran's borders.

Ominous.

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 11:31 | 1943797 yabs
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bullish for oil, and military complex BTFD

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 11:36 | 1943800 walcott
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"There will be Blood." Watch it. Based on Harry F. Sinclair  Sinclair Oil Corporation

Where the hell do you think WW2 started? Tunisia North Africa Middle East. Oil.

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 11:41 | 1943833 Lord Welligton
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Great movie.

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 17:22 | 1944824 Mary Wilbur
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Evidently I've been living under the illusion it started when Hitler invaded Poland.

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 11:32 | 1943801 sabra1
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iran should prove they have the a-bomb, and nuke congress, and the white house, and those bilderbergers! a joyful day it would be!

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 11:50 | 1943855 Teamtc321
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Nobody need's to nuke nobody, that would be a joyful day. 

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 12:39 | 1944048 JOYFUL
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Hey, EVERY day be a JOYFUL  day,  long as we remember: We all in the same boat, livin in this world with just one hope.... Christian, Muslim, Hindu, etc. etc., ...let us be done with the traitors amongst us....the past will be just a bad nightmare, which morning's light will cast aside, along with the myriad 'dual citizens' who had blocked the sun from shining full upon our faces! 

CONSTITUTIONAL COUP D'ETAT. NOW!

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 11:34 | 1943806 mendolover
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Well get the popcorn!  Now on top of nukes, Iran has stealth drones!  haha

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 11:34 | 1943807 HD
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How did they ever detect our top secret stealth spy aircraft?

http://brandviews.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/56715822.jpg

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 11:57 | 1943876 marcusfenix
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they looked up...

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 11:34 | 1943808 disabledvet
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All the girls have been all over me lately about "who the Stennis boys are." I told 'em "i'm workin' on it! on workin' on it!"

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