Iran Moves Forces To War Alert
Whether it is just posturing or this time Iran feels it has little to lose, following a spate of mysterious explosions and a downed US attack drone (for those who can put 2 and 2 together), it seems that the oil-rich country is increasingly seeing war as the probable endspiel. YNet reports that Iran is "moving missiles to secret sites, Western officials tell British paper; earlier, Tehran residents reported to stockpile goods, fearing imminent strike. The commander of Iran’s elite Revolutionary Guards has ordered his forces to raise their operational readiness ahead of a possible war or strike on the country’s nuclear facilities, the Telegraph reported late Monday." The move is for now precautionary: "The British newspaper quoted Western intelligence sources as saying that Iran is repositioning ballistic missiles, explosives and troops into defensive positions, in order to offer a quick response in the case of an attack by Israel or the United States." And while all this is happening, Iran is busy shipping of the downed US drone to the highest regional bidder (with substantial reverse engineering skills).
From YNet:
According to the report, Revolutionary Guards Commander Mohammed Ali Jaafari directed his forces to deploy Iran’s long-range missiles at secret sites nationwide. Meanwhile, the country’s air force has reportedly set up “rapid reaction units” that would respond to aerial assaults.
A senior Western intelligence official was quoted as saying: "There is deep concern within the senior leadership of the Iranian regime that they will be the target of a surprise military strike by either Israel or the US.
"For that reason they are taking all necessary precautions to ensure they can defend themselves properly if an attack happens," the official said.
"We are going to be attacked"
Iran's isolation over its nuclear ambitions, its claim to have shot down a US spy drone in its airspace on Sunday and the British embassy attack are feeding ordinary Iranians' fears.
"Many foreigners are leaving Iran ... I suspect that there will be military action ... we will become another Iraq," said architect Mahsa Sedri, 35. "Obviously something is going on ... otherwise the foreigners would not leave Iran."
"We are going to be attacked ... I sense it ... I am pulling out my money from the bank to have cash in hand in case of an attack," said government employee Hassan Vosughi. "I and all my friends have stockpiled goods at home."
In retrospect, perhaps they should be stockpiling brent.
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WARPIGS!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbxfe7DMxVo
Just WTF does being "oil rich" have to do with the right of nations to defend themselves against "grave and gathering danger" or dangerous and grave gatherings or even gathering and dangerous graves?
Try saying THAT fast three times!
It’s not war, its transitory kinetic Nobel peace prize bombs
War is peace, they're preparing for peace.
a shit load of peace. The Russians are ready for this, as are the Iranians. They will fight hard and a lot of people are about to die.
Yeah, but they gots the brown skin, soes it don't really count!
/sarc
You don’t need any more proof that there is a strange crowd in these parts than to think of who could possibly want to junk a Bushism play on words -- LOL : D
He got junked because he played the Aladdin(tm) Race Card.
Battle stations, Bitchez!!
Iranians begin bank runs and stockpiling as threat increases for imminent attack
http://www.examiner.com/finance-examiner-in-national/iranians-begin-bank-runs-and-stockpiling-as-threat-increases-for-imminent-attack
I would like to see those new GBU-57A/B i in action
You mean our guys or theirs?
The color of the skin doesn't matter if you possess oil and don't agree to sell it to the cartel for USD.
yeah, and as long as it happens "over there" the media "here" will be frontline cheerleaders. The audacity of these heathens, why are they trying to protect themselves, they must have something to hide?
ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, FOX, and all the other Proxies of the Ministry of Truth and perpetuators of the War Racket & False Left-Right Paradigm *illusion* will surely have their cameras trained on the Tehran skyline, being tipped off far in advance by Goebbels, to ensure they can run prime time teasers giving Amerikans the heads up to have their popcorn and soda/beer ready for the beginning of the Circus Festivities to be marked by brilliant and dazzling fireworks.
Brian Williams will report, in a hushed voice, over a darkened Tehran skyline, with tracer rounds zipping all about, that "[w]e think that was the sound of anti-aicraft battery fire in the distance..." as Andea Mitchell sends it back to the nBcS War Room Studio where David Gregory and the other NBC Pundits can sit around the ginormous map of Iran that they use as a digitized table and discuss 'war strategies' with retired U.S. generals/paid consultants.
Bread & Circus, bitchez.
Don't forget who "pays" for the news coverage...
Cut to commercial... WAR HORSE (a Steven Spielberg production - who also directed Raiders of the Lost Ark, Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade, Schindler's List, and Saving Private Ryan)... Opening on Christmas Day...
So now we'll get the full court hook nose press into the March Oscars ceremony on those bad Iranians, and how the US taxpayer needs to go on the hook for more debt for the threat that Xerxes poses to the desert clan...
Will they take Sundays and Monday nights off so as to not interfere with the NFL? I mean come on!!!! Priorities please!!!!
@TruthInSunshine
The U.S. Ministry of Propaganda, now consolidated into the Broadcast Board of Governors (bbg.gov), is run by former TV/cable news execs and Sec Hillary Clinton. The BBG "encompasses all U.S. civilian international broadcasting, including the Voice of America, Radio Free Europe, Radio Free Asia, Radio and TV Marti and Middle East networks Radio Sawa and Alhurra Television. Programs are distributed in 58 languages via radio, TV, the internet and social media. Today it launched a "Virtual Embassy for Iran" that includes a video introduction by Clinton - the same Clinton that celebrated the death of Gadhafi and destruction of Libya.
Corrupted National Network:
[Incredibly dramatic, yet completely militaristic music, with a drum beat cadence forefront, dubbed over Blitzer's glockenspiel]
If you think the Russians and Iranians did not long ago plan this out, then you are out of your mind.
http://www.spiritoftruth.org/iraniannuclearbomb.htm
http://thespiritoftruth.blogspot.com/2009/05/russias-secret-war-plans.html
http://thespiritoftruth.blogspot.com/2010/03/quick-review-of-history.html
Can Barry win the Peace prize twice?
I wonder, has the Norwegian Nobel Committee ever taken back a Peace Prize? Maybe it's time they do so.
Nobel peace prize has become a f***ing joke! It's a maaaad world!
How to tell your child "Happy birthday!" without feeling like a pathetic liar?!
Maybe that crack smokinv nigger occupying the WH will get another Nobel peace prize?
You will know war is weeks away when they pinch off the straight.
Mr. LH, if they make any move to close Hormuz war will not be weeks away it will have already started. Closing the strait would BE an act of war and everyone over 18 on all sides knows that. Not to mention the USA would not hesitate to clear the water using a nuke to vaporize anything lodged in the sea lanes. But, I doubt they would try that because the UAE, Dubai, Kuwait, Saudi A., and Iraq all need those lanes open, they would consider closure an act of war on them as well. The Iranians are not THAT stupid, that would hand western powers even more legitimacy within the Arab world than they already have. Recall that Arabs do not see Iran as Arabian but as Persians that happen to be Muslim. And most Arabs do not approve of Iranian support for terror organizations like Hamas and Hezbollah. They certainly do not want a nuclear armed Iran, and they will not allow Iran to close the Strait of Hormuz. That is just the way it is.
So, flying drones over Iran, "sponsoring Iranian rebels," and shit mysteriously blowing up all over isn't war already?
There is a difference between a tit for tat cold war of attrition between hostile nations that bicker and a hot war that is no longer deniable. Hormuz is international waters not Iran's to block or close but doing so would be an act of war not only for those that ship through the channel but also for those customers that must have the oil, simple as that.
One can argue whether or not a drone flying in their airspace is an act of war, unmanned, unarmed, probably not an act of war. They might not like it much but it does not amount to war, they can just shoot it down for that matter. Russians used to violate our airspace all the time testing our responses and resolve. State Department would fire of a testy memo to the Russian Ambassador, not fire off a barrage of missiles.
Sponsoring Iranian rebels you say? News to me, maybe you would like to document your accusations? But, as long as they are not US nationals operating inside of Iran for destructive purposes it is not an act of war, we do not control what other people choose to do with their lives, now if there were Americans killing thousands of civilians and destroying civilian targets like office towers that would be different. Seems to me that there is plenty to protest within that shithole country that people need little encouragement to attempt a bit of regime change on their own.
As to their "shit mysteriously blowing up" as you put it, again, documentation is everything. We all know about that missile base getting blown to hell, but not even the Iranians are calling that anything but a tragic accident. It was a missile base, they fuel rockets there, if it is not done right the results can be spectacularly bad. If the US had anything to do with it I am betting that it was not because we just don't like Iran, it was probably more like they were actually loading fuel and a bomb onto a rocket slated for a one way trip to Ras Tenura. That would explain why they would not accuse anyone if they were attacked, when to do so makes them the guilty party in an indefensible position.
Iran is a bad place, I genuinely feel bad for those sane and reasonable people there who seem unable to do anything about the horrific theocratic government they suffer. But, I have said for 25 years Islam has to clean it's own house because we can't do it for them and there are consequences to their actions. The reactions of the west will simply grow worse over the years, what they do to themselves within their own borders is their business and I do not like to think of the pure evil the average person there suffers, but when what they do affects others outside their borders then the world and we have a right and a duty to make sure they know there will be a price to pay. We have been telling them this for 30 years, we have been patient. That will not last forever.
You can erase the entire article but the two words "oil rich" and we would all know what this is all about.
With a 1000 in your avatar, it does not relate to your IQ
<above> Try saying THAT fast three times!
THE 6TH SICK SHIEKS 6TH SHEEP'S SICK...
Try saying THAT 3 times real fast...
Iran is a small, stupid military and they know it. There is simply nothing they can do. China will never defend them. USA owns Iran and does whatever they want to with them. Always have, always will. Now get ready for a big Bull Market run up!
You know nothing
Sorry to interject here, but one of the things that 1000pips knows nothing about is geology. In an earlier thread, I ceded to his insults, and to his assertions that "gold is a mineral". I had corrected him and let him know that gold is actually an element, but he came back with some quick google searches that apparently proved that gold was also a mineral and that i was uneducated. I am here to state, uncategorically, and once again, after more in depth research - gold is an element not a mineral. When a mineral has gold as its major constituent, the mineral is often reffered to as "gold".... hence the ubiquity of "gold, mineral" google searches. Gold is an element, you, 1000pips, stand corrected. You were wrong and got all puffy with your hasty google searches; I was right. Go fuck yourself.
I can only hope that there is no war with Iran. Peace, please.
Rock on Raphio...
Only problem now is that you just opened up the floodgates for 'Civis Mundi' to come on here and tell us all how gold is more ubiquitous than "lies" in DC...
Raphio, I could not agree more with your entire post, but for one thing, peace yes, but NOT at all costs. Perhaps they just do not understand what kind of fire they are playing with? Maybe there have been a few isolated attacks in the last few weeks by us or Israel or Britain or whatever, a simple demonstration that there will be consequences for breaking international law. But, they fought nine years and lost millions of men trying to mess with Saddam to take the Shatt al Arab so perhaps human life has no real value to them. All those virgins in paradise, compared to a lifetime of jerking off and living in a shit hole. I guess when you think you have NOTHING worth living for an honorable martyrs death on the battlefield is not so bad.
Are you for real? Now which international law, exactly, did Iran break.... huuuh? Then you attempt to imply that Iran spent 9 years messing with Saddam? If I am not mistaken, the US armed and goaded Saddam into attacking/invading Iran... who defended themselves. You then wander off into xenophobic gibberish. Fail!
They must have broke the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty. You know, the one that says nuclear countries are supposed to help countries that seek peaceful nuclear ambitions in exchange for making sure they don't make weapons. Of which the U.S. is a signatory, along with France, the UK, Russia, China, and 184 others.
The four that aren't are North Korea (withdrawn), India, Pakistan, and, um, some other country with at least 300 nukes at home and located in major embassies world wide.
Nope, Iran hasn't violated the terms of the NPT. They must have broken some other international law.
I'm so glad that the occupational government in Vichy, D.C., would never violate international law. That would make them hypocrites, and the entire city like whitewashed tombs, which from the outside appear lovely, but from within are full of the bones of the dead and all forms of corruption.
"1000" sees himself as "300"... The numerical difference can be accounted for by INFLATION... Silver bitchez!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvILGIIVsMU
Please cite the language in the Constitution which authorizes US ownership of Iran. Be specific and show your work.
I found it!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFwprS_L6tg
The Commerce Clause - it's good for the war machine business
In the early years of the 19th century, the United States, at the direction of President Thomas Jefferson, decided to call a halt to the payment of tribute, and a war between the young US Navy and the Barbary pirates ensued.
Good enough for Thomas Jefferson, good enough for me!
Ten years later, a second war settled the issue of American ships being attacked by pirates until the problem's bizarre resurgence nearly 200 years later, in the spring of 2009.
Yeah, Iranian pirates are always relieving me of my wenches and my swag. Something's got to be done!
boiltherich uttered:
I'm glad you see it that way.
"Indeed I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just, that his justice cannot sleep forever." - Thomas Jefferson
I pray for justice.
Ha! Iran has nuclear missiles pointed at Israel and another geopolitically important location: Saudi Arabia. In case of an attack someone might go nuts and use them... which means WW3 and USA without oil.
What do you call one million dead jews?
A damn a good start!
All of u who wish something bad would happen to USA will always be disappointed. We simply have the most advanced military in the World. We may be attacked, but the vengeance we set forth rains fire of terror that generations of or enemies never recover from. To mess with us is literally to be smashed down by the Right Hand of God. We own the USD, we own the OIL, and we always Will.
Gold is a mineral, it is not currency, and it never will be again.
We can do it! We can defeat anything, including weaponized small-pox and ebola, and all else a la Stephen King's The Stand!
USA, fuck yeah!
What I find shameful is that, even though 1000pips is just another farcical troll, some people are so deluded that they actually believe the vomitus that he's spitting up.
So China now has already 10000 working drones ready to take off.....
I mean, I used to be in charge of a Reverse engeneering cell that copies a brands and well, i remember i once visited the factory and a the start i gave them the samples and after 3 hours they called us to show off 2 working samples. I like to see europeans or americans do that....
Plus if they devided the parts over 50 factories, they can flood the skies with those drones in 4 months whith tens of thousands of drones. What can you do against weapons like that?
You add a device that blows all internal computers upon losing connection from the "hive" for more than 5 minutes. Anyone with a few million dollars can build an RC plane big enough to carry a camera and a gun that communicates with a satellite, it's the software that makes these things deadly and that's the easiest part to destroy in case it's damaged.
I logged on to say what you just said; the actual drone itself is only a fraction of the technology and infrastructure involved. There are sattelites and communications networks and control systems that make the drone operate which are much more valuable in proprietary terms. A drone is a fancy RC airplane with a camera and maybe some weapons.
And, as pointed out, the brains on the drone could be blown up as a precaution. I would also expect, even if this self destruct failed, there are other security precations that obfuscate the electronics and software on board.
Regards,
Cooter
What can you do against weapons like that?
EMP bitchez...
Bomb 'em back to the stone age... LITERALLY! (all your 'reverse engineering' are belong to us)...
And thus escalate the situation towards nuclear war. Brilliant!
1. Turn on a big tesla coil, thus blocking all controls to the entire swarm.
2. Hack in and remote control them to shoot back at them, a la the rumoured Iranian hack of the US UAV.
3. Infect the machines with a virus to render them dysfuntional.
I am sure somewhere, people are testing these and other strategies.
This is a nice rendition of WARPIGS also:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDJgwUeW7_k
since we've seen the satelite imagery of destruction, hasn't the horse left that barn?
they will be able to submit that damages take place at "whatever" hour tonight
and move to the next step.
even if the wounds are self inflicted.
lol.
Still think they should nuke their own wells, watch how fast people become completely disinterested in Iran and leave it alone.
While they'll lose their revenue, they'll save their lives and royally piss off everybody. (friends and annoyances alike)
I know it's a crackpot move, but, only way they can dodge a full on war is to remove the tasty treat.
There's been rumors for years that the Saudis have already wired their wells with explosives and long half-life radioactive materials. Called "Petro SE" (scorched earth), it would make their wells useless for a very long time in the event of an invasion...
It didn't work for saddam, k-daff, or anyone else trying it... setting the rigs on fire or otherwise destroying them won't even mitigate bomb guidance systems at this juncture (thanks to saddam)... It will piss off the U.S., but at the end of the day, those mindless consumers need what's underground... if it means stirring up some laughable bullshit to play on their deep rooted prejudices, then so be it.
The only thing it would do is prolong the time it takes other people to steal (liberate!) their oil... priced in dollars of course. The desperate beast's cage is made of cardboard... I suggest not poking it just for the hell of it.
Why are you getting junked for speaking the truth?
Yes. That would be about right.
And now we celebrate 2012!
Full moon on December 10... starting on Dec.8 with almost a full moon.
The Iraq war started the day after a full moon.
Damn, my GMAT is on the 13th.
The problem is you can't just flip a switch and start a war. Troops and material would have to be positioned weeks ahead of time. Has that happened yet?
There's a shitload of troops in Afghanistan and Iraq. And Kuwait. And Bahrain. And 3 aircraft carriers soon to be in position... 2 already in the region.
And Israel and the US have submarines in the area for sure.
And as a last resort, they've got nukes if necessary.
Nobody is talking about an invasion yet... but bombing the hell out of Iran... sure. A few subs with cruise missiles along with a few B-2 would do the job.
Those aircraft carriers are big targets for those Russian Sunburns.
Give me a break. Do you REALLY think the navy doesn't have countermeasures to ANYTHING that Russia or China can create or would have their carriers parked there if they didn't? Puhleeze.
I thought that the US had countermeasures against a dozen guys armed with utility knives but I was wrong about that.
countermeasures against a dozen guys armed with utility knives
Would you believe against a troop of boy scouts & a water pistol...?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Hd2e_tRBlY
plastic cutter bombing is one tactic they don't know how to counter act. Watch out for stuka plastic cutters.
j0nx regaled us with this wisdom:
Pride goes before destruction, a haughty spirit before a fall.
Russia is not attacking a US carrier group in defense of Iran.
Will Russia and China allow the US to occupy every resource rich nation on Earth? At some point such activity on the part of the US becomes an existential threat to Russia and China.
Sunburns range is only 120km. Unless we want to get hit there is now way a Carrier is going to be that close.
Well what about China? With Taiwan's election, Iran war and Pakistan war... all could break loose in 2012.
http://news.yahoo.com/chinas-hu-urges-navy-prepare-combat-160509787.html
Chinese President Hu Jintao urged the country's navy Tuesday to prepare for military combat and advance naval modernisation as part of efforts to safeguard world peace.
The navy should "accelerate its transformation and modernisation in a sturdy way, and make extended preparations for military combat in order to make greater contributions to safeguard national security and world peace," Hu said in a speech which comes amid US and regional concerns over China's naval ambitions.
Everyone loves the Sunburn, but the US Navy is wearing SPF 50.
Lets be realistic, how many live fire drills you think they've conducted with a surface targets that actively deploy ECCM and active defenses and countermeasures?
Hell, the US Navy expends as much ordinance training as most countries budget for several years as a stockpile.
The only ship a Sunburn is going to dest is going to be a USS Maddox type.
lolmao500:
If Israel or the United States thinks that there won´t be any substantial negative effects in terms of what the public at large would think, it is more likely that there will be some kind of officially declared attack on Iran. I think that an attack on Iran probably could be justified by the big media to a sufficient extent. But in case the risk for future problems as regards what the general public in the US or Europe would think is big enough I think the should prefer other means to attack Iran´s nuclear facilities, such as staging accidents which are hard to blame the US or Israel for. If such an accident would coincide with an earthquake it would probably be very difficult for the Iranian regime to blame what happened on the US or Israel. And if the US and Israel don´t like the current Iranian regime and wish to replace it with something else, this should probably be an efficient method. An attack on Iran would probably increase support for the regime and other anti-American and anti-Israeli leaders. On the other hand, it is probably difficult to stage an accident and earthquakes are rare even in Iran, especially on locations where nuclear facilities are located.
But it is hard for me to see the point in attacking Iran right now. They don´t have any nukes and it would take years for them to get nukes. It seems to make more "sense" to attack Pakistan which already has nukes. But perhaps an attack on Iran could set an example that could be useful if they want to force Pakistan to give up its nukes? If they nuke Iran they can make threats against Pakistan more credible.
And Obama is on a 17 day vacation, maybe because he dosn't want to make the decesion.
Nothing like the crack pipe and getting sucked off by his new "body" man to get the Presidents mind of the midlle East.
Now i only wish that crack would kill the President.
Wasn't TOTUS in South America when he did NATO's bidding and bombed the shit out of Libya?
There's a shitload of troops in Afghanistan and Iraq. And Kuwait. And Bahrain. And 3 aircraft carriers soon to be in position... 2 already in the region.
Yeah... & the Nobel Peace Prize winner in Chief is putting out on 18 at the 'Plantation Course' just waiting to sound the order in 5...4...3...2... (just in time for Christmas - which means NOTHING to him 'cept that the NBA starts its season that day)...
Four carrier groups, the Lincoln is supposed to sail for the Gulf tonight.
Carriers have been in position for at least a week. Thats all we can 'know' about. My guess is there is Subs all throught the gulf ready to deliver a plethora of Hell-Fire Missles.
The war can start at any minute.....it would take nothing less than Obama's OK and about twenty minutes for about 2,000 Cruise Missles to hit their 'targets.' Not to mention when the B-2s hit the sky./...........
There will be a week or two of bombings then troops will be 'placed'.
B-2's run missions out of Missourri to all parts of the world, I believe.
They can also be based in Diego Garcia(Indian Ocean) and the UK.
Yeahp, and the same mofos that were calling Bush a war criminal and protesting outside his ranch during Iraq would be the head cheerleaders for Obama and crew once it starts. Liberal hypocrites. America needs another war like it needs another tax.
Hope and Change!
Hope & REGIME Change... There, fixed it...
America needs another war like it needs another tax.
And we are going to get both!