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Iran Nuclear Site 'Clean-Up' Raises Suspicions Further

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Perhaps not so shockingly, AP is reporting tonight that satellite images of Iranian military facilities show trucks and other earth moving vehicles. Diplomats, accredited to the IAEA, suggest this indicates attempted cleanup of radioactive traces possibly left by tests of a nuclear-weapon trigger. As sanctions grow more burdensome and Israel's pre-emptive rhetoric rises, the discovery of this sanitization effort only raises the stakes as the images are said to be very recent and updated constantly and suggest evidence of tests of a small experimental neutron device. This wouldn't be the first time a site has been 'sanitized' prior to IAEA inspector visits but as The Boston Globe reports IAEA expert teams have tried twice - and failed - in recent weeks to get Iranian permission to visit this area and now (following the apparent clean-up) they have finally been granted access. As the US, Britain, France, Germany, Russia, and China postpone their meeting, in an effort to find more moderate language to criticize Iran, it seems to us that actions may just start having more impact than words very soon.

 

AP Exclusive (via Boston Globe): Iran May Be Cleaning Up Nuke Works

VIENNA—Satellite images of an Iranian military facility appear to show trucks and earth-moving vehicles at the site, indicating an attempted cleanup of radioactive traces possibly left by tests of a nuclear-weapon trigger, diplomats told The Associated Press on Wednesday.

 

The assertions from the diplomats, all nuclear experts accredited to the International Atomic Energy Agency, could add to the growing international pressure on Iran over its nuclear program, which Tehran insists is for peaceful purposes.

 

While the U.S. and the EU are backing a sanctions-heavy approach, Israel has warned that it may resort to a pre-emptive strike against Iran's nuclear facilities to prevent it from obtaining atomic weapons.

 

Two of the diplomats said the crews at the Parchin military site may be trying to erase evidence of tests of a small experimental neutron device used to set off a nuclear explosion. A third diplomat could not confirm that but said any attempt to trigger a so-called neutron initiator could only be in the context of trying to develop nuclear arms.

 

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The IAEA has already identified Parchin as the location of suspected nuclear weapons-related testing. In a November report, it said it appeared to be the site of experiments with conventional high explosives meant to initiate a nuclear chain reaction.

 

It did not mention a neutron initiator as part of those tests, but in a separate section cited an unnamed member nation as saying Iran may have experimented with a neutron initiator, without going into detail or naming a location for such work.

 

In contrast, the intelligence information shared with the AP by the two diplomats linked the high-explosives work directly to setting off a neutron initiator at Parchin.

 

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If Iran did try to trigger a neutron initiator, it would harden international suspicions by adding a nuclear component to a suspected string of experiments linked to weapons development that generally have not included radioactive material.

 

Iran has previously attempted to clean up sites considered suspicious by world powers worried about Tehran's nuclear ambitions.

 

Iran razed the Lavizan Shian complex in northern Iran before allowing IAEA inspectors to visit the suspected repository of military procured equipment that could be used in a nuclear weapons program...

 

The Iranians also embarked on an extensive redo at the Kalay-e Electric Co., just west of Tehran, before agency inspectors were given access nine years ago. Although the site was re-painted and otherwise sanitized, samples taken from Kalay-e also showed traces of enriched uranium, though at levels substantially below warhead grade.

 

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The timing is important.

 

U.S. intelligence officials say they generally stand by a 2007 intelligence assessment that asserts Iran stopped comprehensive secret work on developing nuclear arms in 2003. But Britain, France, Germany, Israel and other U.S. allies think such activities have continued past that date, a view shared by the IAEA, which says in recent reports that some isolated and sporadic activities may be ongoing.

 

Iran vehemently denies allegations that it conducted any research and development into atomic weapons and says the totality of its nuclear activities are meant purely to generate power or for research.

 

Asked for comment, Ali Asghar Soltanieh, Iran's chief delegate to the IAEA, told the AP he would not discuss any nuclear issues until after he delivered his statement to the agency's 35-nation board meeting Thursday. IAEA officials also said they could not comment.

 

Attention most recently focused on Parchin several days ago, when senior IAEA officials first spoke of unexplained activities at the site without saying what they could be and said an inspection of buildings there was taking on added urgency.

 

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IAEA expert teams trying to probe the suspicions of secret weapons work by Iran tried -- and failed -- twice in recent weeks to get Iranian permission to visit Parchin. Tehran then said on Monday that such a visit would be granted.

 

But it said that a comprehensive agreement outlining conditions of such an inspection must first be agreed on -- a move dismissed by a senior international official familiar with the issue as a delaying tactic. He, too, requested anonymity because his organization does not authorize him to speak publicly on confidential IAEA matters.

 

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[That] session was to take place Wednesday but had to be adjourned to give six world powers time to find common ground on how harshly to criticize Iran. They agreed on a text late Wednesday but only after marathon negotiations reflecting the difficulty of presenting a united front at upcoming talks with Iran.

 

Officials did not detail the text agreed upon, but the U.S., Britain, France and Germany wanted a joint statement that takes Iran to task for defying U.N. Security Council resolutions demanding it end uranium enrichment and cooperate with an IAEA probe of suspicions it secretly worked on nuclear arms.

 

A senior Western diplomat, however, told the AP that Russia and China, which have condemned Western sanctions on Iran as counterproductive, sought more moderate language. He spoke on condition of anonymity because his government does not authorize him to share confidential information with reporters.

 

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Thu, 03/08/2012 - 00:35 | 2234749 TruthInSunshine
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***Sheeple Breaking News Alert***

 

AP & Reuters are claiming that Iran bought yellow cake from a Nigerian bakery.

*As reported by Judith Miller

 

***This Has Been A Sheeple Breaking News Alert***

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 00:37 | 2234769 nope-1004
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This new article from the AP reminds me of Colin Powell's presentation to the UN. "Iraq has mobile nuclear devices."

LOL.  Let's see some hard evidence before jumping on the 'nuclear clean up' band wagon.

 

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 00:38 | 2234778 SHEEPFUKKER
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Same shit, different day. 

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 01:09 | 2234867 redpill
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Let me guess, they hate our freedom and will be launching ICBMs imminently unless we "act."  Whatever you warmonger pricks, you know you're going to bomb them no matter what, just shut your lying neocon chickenhawk yaps and get on with it already.  Assholes.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 02:11 | 2234928 Spirit Of Truth
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Here's the question for those who really took the red pill: Why is Iran going out of its way to provoke an attack by Israel?

http://www.spiritoftruth.org/iraniannuclearbomb.htm

 

Is the Western mind wholly incapable of recognizing the big picture and the true 'New World Order' conspiracy? 

Consider this.

Jan. 23, 2011 - Iran announces a naval flotilla will be sent to pass through the Red Sea and Mediterranean Sea w/some warships going through the Suez Canal.

Jan. 25, 2011 - Egyptian revolution begins.

Jan. 26, 2011 - Iranian naval vessels depart for Mediterranean Sea.

Feb. 6, 2011 - Iran's naval vessels dock at Jeddah, Saudi Arabia, the first time Iranian warships are permitted at a Saudi Arabian port since '79 revolution given the poor relations between the states.

Feb. 11, 2011 - Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak overthrown on 32nd anniversary of overthrow of the Shah in Iran

Feb. 22, 2011 - Iranian naval vessels pass through Suez Canal and enter the Mediterranean Sea for the first time since the 1979 Iranian Revolution.

 

Here's the big question marks. 

1. How did Iran know Hosni Mubarak would be overthrown before the Egyptian revolt even began such that there'd be an opportunity for Iranian naval vessels to pass through the Suez Canal? 

"While the Mubarak regime was in power, there was little possibility of Egypt permitting an Iranian naval task force to transit the Suez Canal." 

2. Why did Saudi Arabia permit Iranian naval vessels to dock in Jeddah? The two countries are supposed to be hostile with one another. 

I can only point out the truth and be ignored for so long before there are tragic consequences from failing to heed me: http://thespiritoftruth.blogspot.com/2011/02/why-do-you-fail-to-heed-me.html
Thu, 03/08/2012 - 02:33 | 2234982 TruthInSunshine
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Just a note of caution:  Even if you, like I, know American and non-American Jews who are highly critical of Israeli Government policies, and you happen to agree with these friends, you and they will be labeled and smeared as anti-semitic, jew haters (or self-hating jews, in the event that you're of jewish ancestry) - * I go much further, with far more colorful language, as I speak truth to recent events, as I watch politicians on both sides of the aisle literally try to outdo each other in sucking Israel off and slobbering all over Israeli Neocons with wet tongues, and bending to their every stated desire, at the expense of their actual constituents, Americans who pay taxes.

The ADL and Dershowitz will come for you on a witch hunt, and go Joe McCarthy on your ass, like they did with two highly respected and very competent professors at Harvard & The University of Chicago, respectively, John J. Mearsheimer & Stephen M. Walt, because those two professors had the audacity and balls to suggest, in a very professional, well-written, exceedingly well reasoned and objective scholarly work, that the Israeli Lobby has an outsized influence over the foreign policy of the United States, essentially lessening American credibility abroad, and weakening the United States diplomatically and financially, by influencing its policies to the point that it expends financial and political capital in ways that not only do not benefit Americans, but have the aggregate affect of harming the interests of Americans and The United States.

But, despite their astute and objective analysis, because they dared utter the phrase "Israeli Lobby," and attempted to strike up a constructive dialogue about its role in American Politics and Foreign Policy, Dershowitz, that (in)famous attorney who is adamant about the protection of sacrosanct 1st Amendment rights to free speech (and where does free speech more aptly belong than at a university of higher learning?), ensured that not only would Walt & Mearsheimer be ousted from their tenured positions at Harvard & The University of Chicago, but literally hounded to the point that they fled the U.S. in order to teach and write in the U.K.

So, what I'm saying...is that it's easy to see what's happened and why it's happening, even if the repercussions from talking about it, on the naive assumption that it may benefit Americans and the United States in terms of striking up a cost/benefit analysis, will certainly have Dershowitz, Abe Foxman, the ADL and a bunch of other hypoctritical, dogmatic and ravenous lunatics enaging in every dirty tactic to smear you.

Here's a great article on the whole matter from a self-professed, proud Jewish publication - [excerpt first]:

Framed

Robert D. Kaplan’s deification of John J. Mearsheimer in The Atlantic last week shows that the authors of The Israel Lobby are winning


When John J. Mearsheimer and Stephen M. Walt’s The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy was published in 2007, it launched a thousand essays and op-eds, upset many Jewish readers, and sold a very respectable number of copies. What it did not do, to judge by the reviews, was convince anyone of its central argument: that an all-powerful “Israel lobby” had hijacked American foreign policy using illegitimate means, and that a small but committed group of American Jews was steering the country into disaster to satisfy their parochial interests. Yet judging from a recent spate of articles in some of the country’s most respectable mainstream publications, including the Atlantic, the New York Times, and Time, it seems that, while Walt and Mearsheimer lost the policy battle, in the long term they are winning the war, on the most important battleground of all: that of ideas and language.

Walt and Mearsheimer's 'The Israel Lobby'
Thu, 03/08/2012 - 07:31 | 2235300 MarketTruth
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Wake me up when Israel joins the NNPT like the USA, Russia, Iran, China, etc. Until Israel joins the NNPT, there is no solution to this worldwide crisis spurred by the fear-mongering of Israel (who uses their USA assets to scare the world).

BTW, where were those WMD then President Bush kept claiming in Iraq... that  we all now know were not there.

When Israel joins the NNPT and inspectors can come in and assess their capability, Israel's hundreds of nuclear weapon including nuke equipped submaries, etc, then i'd say mission accomplished.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 13:10 | 2236414 earnyermoney
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The General indicated at the Senate hearings yesterday that they have been found in Syria.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 03:01 | 2235053 JOYFUL
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Well, I went to your site, to imbide even more 'spirit of truth,' and here is what I learned:

a) you were recently banned from Godlikeproductions.

b) you have a major Christ-complex. 

"When I present compelling evidence that I'm the reincarnation of Jesus of Nazareth, i.e., the second coming of Christ, this must be heeded."

The fact that no one is going to ban you from ZH should be a major consolation to you.  The fact that this whole thread is missing the usual string of suspects spouting the sio-stooge line to this moment has either to do with everybody being off for Purim, or that a decision has been made to allow your subsuming of Christ's mantle to blossom into letting you carry the can for the entire "DEATH TO THE EAST-DEATH TO THE WEST " cabbalist campaign~!

Looks like everybody's a winner today! 

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 03:08 | 2235066 TruthInSunshine
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You're referring to Sprit of Truth?

I don't want to speak for him, but I got the impression he thinks he's Jesus H. Christ?

I reflexively ended the query at that point.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 03:58 | 2235125 Spirit Of Truth
Thu, 03/08/2012 - 13:01 | 2236384 tekhneek
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I hate all the bullshit you write. Personally Jesus, fuck off.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 18:51 | 2237575 akak
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Jesus was a fag.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 04:59 | 2235181 New World Chaos
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Hope you're wrong about the nuclear apocalypse, but you are certainly not the only one who has had a strange experience along these lines.  A friend had a dream about London being nuked.  It was incredibly vivid and it didn't evaporate or degrade like dreams usually do.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 09:29 | 2235529 SWRichmond
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There is no way to completely clean up traces of fission products from a surface site.  Driving around with a bunch of bulldozers and trucking away dirt won't do it.  This shit gets everywhere, and into everything, and it's impossible to hide. 

The problems of nuclear "triggering" are essentially ones of timing and density.  One needs to compress the target material to multiples of its STP density, no mean feat with a material that is already quite dense (think "lead").  It must be mostly uniformly compressed to this higher density and then kept that way for the right amount of time.  This can be done with explosives, blowing the material inwards, equally from all directions.  This is common knowledge.  It is because of the physical restrictions on this configuration that it cannot occur in nuclear power plants.  It is physically impossible.

If you use the right amount of the right enrichment stuff, the reaction becomes self-reinforcing; unlike a commercial power reactor, the "frequency response" of a weapon is very high, so you get energy release in a manner that appears to be "all at once."

That doesn't mean you can't do tests with your explosive configuration and small amounts of the right stuff, and it doesn't mean you won't get fission, and hence, fission products spread all over the place.

Advanced reading: Small nukes are actually used as the triggers for thermonuclear weapons.  Read about "autocatalytic detonation."  This, too, is common knowledge.  http://www.ezrabook.com/cgi-bin/ezra/65568.html

AFAIK you don't need to do any of these tests for a commercial power reactor.  Sadly, you and I will never know what it really happening over there.  This entire story could very well be a canard.

 

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 14:07 | 2236612 earleflorida
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"Elements of Fission Weapon Designs [Detonators]"   http://www.nuclearweaponarchive.org/Nwfaq/Nfaq4-1.html

"Autoclaves/ Uranium Enrichment"   http://www.world-nuclear.org/info/inf28.html

Ref: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maraging_steel   &   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krytron          *[KN22] 

Ps. frequency's @ 5-10 nanoseconds with alarming accuracy

jmo 

 

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 11:54 | 2236070 Matt
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Here's the question for those who really took the red pill: Why is Iran going out of its way to provoke an attack by Israel?

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A better phrasing of the question might be, "why did Iran choose to exist so close to Israel?" Especially when they had thousands of years head start, they could have gone anywhere away from the Promised Land.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 03:06 | 2235064 Dugald
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By your command!

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 01:20 | 2234888 resurger
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More Lies please

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 01:20 | 2234889 resurger
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More Lies please

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 01:34 | 2234917 Joseph Jones
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We can't show the public the hard evidence because it puts at risk our operatives inside supplying the evidence....

 

sark off....

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 01:45 | 2234930 Cult_of_Reason
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Netanyahu asked Panetta to approve sale of bunker-busting bombs, U.S. official says

Top administration source says Obama instructed Defense Secretary to work with Defense Minister Barak, to give all due consideration to the request for purchasing GBU-28 bombs, advanced refueling aircraft.

http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/netanyahu-asked-panetta-to-approve-sale-of-bunker-busting-bombs-u-s-official-says-1.416900

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 02:19 | 2234977 SunnyDD
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What's missing is the inbed CNN News.

Dude How much I miss 'em hehe...

 

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 03:02 | 2235054 Shadowsil
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When the fuck did this become ok!

Panetta: 'international Permission’ Trumps Congressional Permission For Military Actions

 

http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-TV/2012/03/07/Shocking%20Defense%20Secretary%20Says%20International%20Permission%20Trumps%20Congressional%20Permission

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 03:20 | 2235089 Bunga Bunga
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So who cares? Most Americans have totally forgotten about this or never figured out. Much more important: new iPad is four times faster and you can watch commercials in 1080p on your way to shopping!

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 00:46 | 2234811 mt paul
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mmmmmm

yellow cake

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 03:10 | 2235074 Dugald
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Yous wanna yellow cake mate? we got a shit load to sell almost giving it away sport, youse ring Australia for a real deal....!

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 00:58 | 2234812 palmereldritch
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....Meanwhile...back at the preparations for the new Iranian Oil Bourse....

http://www.telegram.com/article/20120307/NEWS/103079873/1020

Iran’s upcoming New Year’s Eve holiday, Nowruz, on March 20, is typically commemorated by a symbolic purging of the home and spiritual representation of creation and fertility. This year, Iran is also celebrating by changing its policy for payment of oil.

Essentially, Iran will no longer accept the U.S. dollar as payment for oil, and instead, will be looking for other currencies and commodities.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iranian_oil_bourse

March 20, 2012: the Iranian oil bourse will no longer trade oil in the dollar but start trading oil in other currencies like the euro, yen, yuan, rupee or a basket of currencies.[36]

There's the WMD they're really concerned about....just ask Saddam and Mohammar how their plans for such an oil market fared

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 04:12 | 2235135 hidingfromhelis
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They have oil.  They're planning on accepting something other than USD in exchange for it.  They're toast.  This foreign policy thing is way too easy.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 01:09 | 2234870 rsnoble
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I hope it's underbaked yellow cake, that stuff is awesome!! I can eat the entire thing myself.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 01:30 | 2234907 Buck Johnson
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Wow totally amazing, that with the run up to an attack in the next few months or weeks this information comes out.  This is a bogus story and who is the diplomats who said this.  Some COUNTRY is ginning up this information in order to make it easy for an attack to happen.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 02:08 | 2234964 SunnyDD
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God Dam! How they got my Cake?

 

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 07:02 | 2235274 jjsilver
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Reuters is controlled by the rothschilds. Why isn't the media talking about israeli(rothschild) nuclear weapons and the threat they pose to the region. Didn't Israel refuse to allow nuclear inspectors in their country.

We have been taken over from within and war is being waged against the people of the US and the world for  technocratic  world domination.

On the subject of income taxes, Are they voluntary? if not, doesn't that make you a slave?

see

31 Questions and Answers about the Internal Revenue Service
http://www.supremelaw.org/sls/31answers.htm

The Federal Zone
http://www.supremelaw.org/library/index.htm

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 00:31 | 2234755 Crimedog
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The fact that they are trying to hide their ambitions make it even more suspicious.  If they just came out and said they have a right to pursue nuclear power and they are doing it for nuclear reactors, I will feel better about the situation.  Hiding the truth implies bad intentions.  Even if they wouldn't actually use a nuclear, which is entirely possible with them, they would definitely use it a leverage in the region.  Lose-lose situation in my book.

 

I don't want war, but at some point, there may not be any other choice.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 00:36 | 2234770 Ignatius
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Bull fucking shit.  This whole play is about power and nothing else.  Or, was asking Israel to sign the Nuclear Non Proliferation Treaty -- as Iran has already done -- your next fucking point?

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 00:45 | 2234803 eatthebanksters
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Didn't North Korea sign that treaty as well...your next fucking point?

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 00:52 | 2234826 JLee2027
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And withdrew.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 01:52 | 2234940 Ignatius
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My next fucking point -- since you are apparently so completely fucking dense -- is that while Iran has regularly allowed inspectors to crawl all over their nuclear program, Israel has yet to officially even acknowledge their nuclear weapon stockpile.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 08:56 | 2235446 JoBob
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Why do you have so many "fucking" points? Don't you have any valid points?

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 18:27 | 2237512 Ignatius
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"Jane, you ignorant slut."  Dan Akroyd

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 00:40 | 2234781 TruthInSunshine
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Yes, they should follow Israel's lead.

What's that? Israel hasn't signed onto the NPT but extremely credible evidence exists that they have hundreds of nuclear weapons and nuclear warhead carrying ballistic missiles?

My bad.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 01:11 | 2234874 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Crimedog said:

The fact that they are trying to hide their ambitions make it even more suspicious.

Not nearly as suspicious as more scary innuendo from "diplomats" or "an unnamed member nation ... saying Iran may have experimented with a neutron initiator, without going into detail or naming a location for such work."

By the way, the site in question is a military site. With all the saber rattling, sabotage, and scientist murdering that's been going on, they might be a little hesitant to let anyone come snooping around. They could very well have a few non-nuclear surprises in store for defending themselves against an attack and would thus have a legitimate reason to move things around. They're not actually even required by the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty to allow inspectors into that site. If they've been experimenting with fissile material there, a site cleanup won't be able to hide that fact from the inspectors. The Iranians know this. At this point, given the histrionics coming from Israel and the US, I'm more suspicious of the "diplomats" and unnamed sources.

If they just came out and said they have a right to pursue nuclear power and they are doing it for nuclear reactors, I will feel better about the situation.

Huh? They've been saying that for years. Where have you been?

I don't want war, but at some point, there may not be any other choice.

It would be nice to try diplomacy. Too bad the US has been stonewalling and throwing up roadblocks at every turn.

 

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 07:03 | 2235275 jjsilver
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They did say that

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 00:32 | 2234758 Hansel
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Did Iran really clean up a nuclear site, or is the press trying to make the case that Iran has WMDs a la Iraq?

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 00:39 | 2234782 SHEEPFUKKER
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Too bad Monica Blew-Clinsky didn't clean up that stain on her dress. 

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 04:34 | 2235166 wee-weed up
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SlickWillie... Is that you?

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 01:24 | 2234895 tickhound
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Doesn't really matter though, does it?  This hand just needs to play out.  USForeignPolicyism clearly shows Iran going nuke eVENtually.  And we know what happens when countries get nukes.  They tend to get LEFT THE FUCK ALONE. 

N Korea went nuke cuz we don't need-no stinking AK-47's.  Won't be long before O has Kim(s) over for 18 holes at Andrews.     

Iran has oil.  See that's their first mistake......

 

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 00:36 | 2234766 whisperin
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You mean we invaded the wrong "I"? WTF

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 00:36 | 2234767 Global Hunter
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Is "Neutron Initiators" going to be the new buzz word with Wolf Blitzer tomorrow?  

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 00:38 | 2234774 cherry picker
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According to old movies I watched, In the old days the good guys would have waited for an act of aggression before attacking in self defense.

Either we don't know who the good guys are anymore, because both sides are telling the world they are the good guys, or there are no good guys left.

At this point in the ball game the first one to pull the trigger is the bad guy in my mind.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 00:51 | 2234822 alien-IQ
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Maybe you just watched the wrong old war movies.

Watch "Paths of Glory".

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 04:20 | 2235145 hidingfromhelis
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Nowadays, it seems like "Minority Report" better represents our rationalizing process for wars.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 00:52 | 2234831 nonclaim
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Perhaps the scrip was oversimplified... and what happened to "attack is the best form of defense"?

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 00:47 | 2234775 DormRoom
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Netanyahu will bomb Iran before the US election.  The Republicans are desperate to regain a Super Majority (they are expected to control Congress, but not the White house).  They must win '12 because demographic changes against them going forward (Black & Latino voters will outnumber the Republican base/white voters by wide margins after 2016--wide enough to have a statistical effect on voter turnout).

 

Netanyahu will bomb, and shut out Obama, when oil spikes, causing the European recession to deepen, and the US to enter into one, then massive layoffs are announced a couple of months before the election.

 

Not much hope & change when gas is $7/gallon.  And Obama campaign managers could never run 'It's a Good Morning in America' style ads.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 01:40 | 2234924 Joseph Jones
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Oh, if only Obama had seriously told Netenyahu that Obama would shoot Israeli jets out of the sky if they were headed toward Iran...we can only "hope".

Now for that I'd donate money for an Obama statue...he could earn his Peace Prize after the fact.   

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 01:52 | 2234776 ShankyS
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Another bad photoshop. If they failed with Obummer's birth cert and Service cards, no telling how bad this fake will be. 

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 00:40 | 2234780 Bansters-in-my-...
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Doesn't the terrorist israeli's have nuclear weapons...?

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 00:41 | 2234789 Schmuck Raker
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That's the 40 year old rumor, yes.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 01:49 | 2234935 TruthInSunshine
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So what you gentlemen are implying is that demands will be immediately made to inspect Israel's nuclear facilities, which actual, credible (really) information indicates have produced complete, working & deployed nuclear missiles?

Nawww.

What kind of world would this be if utter and complete hypocrisy wasn't actually not only allowed out in the open, but was seemlessly ignored by politicians, regulators and the virtuous institutions that are the media, academia and U.S. intelligence services/agencies?

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 05:33 | 2235217 Benjamin Glutton
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Yom Kippur War 1973

 

By October 8, Israel had encountered military difficulties on both fronts. In the Sinai, Israeli efforts to break through Egyptian lines with armor had been thwarted, and while Israel had contained and begun to turn back the Syrian advance, Syrian forces were still overlooking the Jordan River and their air defense systems were inflicting a high toll on Israeli planes.[243][244][245] It became clear by October 9 that no quick reversal in Israel's favor would occur and that IDF losses were unexpectedly high.[246]

During the night of October 8–9, an alarmed Dayan told Meir that "this is the end of the third temple."[244] He was warning of Israel's impending total defeat, but "Temple" was also the code word for nuclear weapons.[245] Dayan again raised the nuclear topic in a cabinet meeting, warning that the country was approaching a point of "last resort."[247] That night Meir authorized the assembly of thirteen 20-kiloton-of-TNT (84 TJ) tactical atomic weapons for Jericho missiles at Sdot Micha Airbase, and F-4 aircraft at Tel Nof Airbase, for use against Syrian and Egyptian targets.[245] They would be used if absolutely necessary to prevent total defeat, but the preparation was done in an easily detectable way, likely as a signal to the United States.[247] Kissinger learned of the nuclear alert on the morning of October 9. That day, President Nixon ordered the commencement of Operation Nickel Grass, an American airlift to replace all of Israel's material losses.[248] Anecdotal evidence suggests that Kissinger told Sadat that the reason for the U.S. airlift was that the Israelis were close to "going nuclear."[245] European countries refused to allow US airplanes carrying supplies for Israel to refuel at their bases, fearing an Arab oil embargo, with the exception of Portugal which permitted the United States to use a leased base in Azores.[249] The defence minister of the Netherlands, apparently acting without consulting his cabinet colleagues, also secretly authorised the use of Dutch airfields.[250]

 

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Thu, 03/08/2012 - 07:58 | 2235322 Bringin It
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Robert Fisk says they got so pissed-off having their tanks in flames they shot something radioactive into Lebanon.

Robert Fisk: Mystery of Israel's secret uranium bomb Alarm over radioactive legacy left by attack on Lebanon

http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/fisk/robert-fisk-myste...

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 00:39 | 2234785 AU5K
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what if we attacked the wrong countries all along?

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 03:38 | 2235110 Dugald
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Ah Dear Boy, welcome to the real world....................

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 00:40 | 2234786 MountainMan
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Shits getting real, bitches. 104.50 was the bottom, next stop 114.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 00:44 | 2234801 I think I need ...
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are you saying $6 dollar gas????? no sweat america is ready

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 00:53 | 2234834 TruthInSunshine
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$6 a gallon gasoline will be conclusive proof that the U.S. economy is ripping on all cylinders, and milk and honey is back on the menu.

Why else would gasoline be $6 a gallon, am I right?

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 00:57 | 2234847 alien-IQ
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Wealth Effect Squared. Oh the joy:-(

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 01:05 | 2234862 Fedophile
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You must have missed the bears earlier today; only the Bernank (or gas tax) can make gas $6.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 01:45 | 2234929 wretch
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Bombing Iran would reasonably change some oil fundamentals.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 00:46 | 2234806 infiniti
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$114 WTI = 1420 ES & 1.85% on the 10yr.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 00:42 | 2234793 LongSoupLine
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McCain, on hearing of this newly developed news, had his own "clean-up" in his pants to contend with.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 00:43 | 2234795 JR
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This is shades of Colin Powell and his dramatic research that took us to war in Iraq, a costly blunder for U.S. servicemen and their families, the U.S. taxpayer, and, oh yes, the 1.44 million innocent men, women and children murdered by the planes and superpower weaponry from the Home of the Brave.

By the way, his evidence was manufactured.

Who will save us from the “patriots” who beat these drums of war even as our new enemy attempts to show us their innocence?

By the way again, why is this propaganda a story for Zero Hedge?

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 01:02 | 2234858 oldman
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@JR

Thanks, dude

This is the question of the week-----why, indeed????

"By the way again, why is this propaganda a story for Zero Hedge?"

I think the rest of your comment is far too sophisticated for this crowd, however. They'll jump up and jig at the first beat of the next drum

              I love it here at ZH---best site ever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

                                              om

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 01:28 | 2234903 TheFourthStooge-ing
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JR asked:

By the way again, why is this propaganda a story for Zero Hedge?

The answer is simple, my friend. This propaganda is the latest "scary monster" meme being pushed by the corporate owned news media (CONmedia). I heard it on the radio driving home from work, and not on the syndicated national news feed, but as a story read during the local news.

Where else but Zero Hedge can people see this propaganda discredited and torn to shreds by rational, evidence-based arguments? Even though we're a wide variety of commenters here and have frequent disagreements, most of us have a strong distaste for bullshit and like to see it stamped out mercilessly.


Thu, 03/08/2012 - 02:58 | 2235017 JR
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I see your point, and it is well taken.

My concern is that America's media is spreading Israeli propaganda that Iran has nuclear weapons. This, is in spite of the fact that US officials do not believe Iran’s nuclear program is developing a weapon.

Today, McClatchy Newspapers has released an in-depth analysis on just how Israel has fanned worldwide press reports to claim that Iran is developing a nuclear weapon in an attempt to provoke a US attack on Iran. The cost of this propaganda, if swallowed by a gullible public, may culminate in World War III.

Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/2012/03/07/3475530/israel-push-on-iran-included-a.html#storylink=cpy

 

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 07:09 | 2235253 Benjamin Glutton
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Further clarification...

Israel has fanned worldwide press reports to claim that Iran is developing a nuclear weapon in an attempt to provoke a US attack on Iran. The cost of this propaganda, if swallowed by a gullible public, may culminate in World War III.

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The breakaway nation of Washington,D.C. has already committed to attacks on Iran with various special forces and covert industrial operations. The so called "sanctions" were never intended to put intolerable pressure on Iran but instead are in fact a preparatory strategy designed to force a necessary WORLDWIDE advance adjustment to reduced availability of oil upon commencement of all out warfare. 

Make no mistake this war IS well underway. Informing the actual United States of the whys and wherefores by way of scripted psy-ops is all that remains.

Battles happen and are fluid but initiation of war itself IS precisely planned performance art.

Iran should seriously consider conditional surrender now, in a very public indisputable fashion. Doing so might succeed in breaking western alliance resolve for all out warfare leaving some semblance of Iranian sovereignty intact.


Thu, 03/08/2012 - 03:46 | 2235117 Dugald
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Ah! JR, Mon Brave, I fear the men in dark suits and dark blue 4x4s are heading in your direction as I type.....

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 18:30 | 2237521 oldman
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@Dugald and those above

The question of the question was rhetorical. I only wanted to emphasize the point made by JR which made me laugh because it so succint and on the mark.

Thanks to each of you for your personal amplification; this shows how effective ZH can be in bringing together those of us who would quibble over minutiae and yet agree on the bigger picture.

May it always be so     thank you    om

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 09:12 | 2235490 AnAnonymous
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Made me laugh.

Powell was the right person for the job, just like Obama. As a negro, he had no personal power and any rebuttal from them, any attempt to derail the US citizenism train, would have been interpretated as traitor moves.

Both proved they were good solid US citizens.

That is the observation.

Claiming that Powell was the leading light in the process is quite off reality.

US citizens are for the most biological german, look for a German as the brain, as the triggering light.

The very fact US citizens believed a negro telling them blatant lies is worth all the evidences you could provide to support that US citizens wished to go at war.

US citizenism.

That is the way it works.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 18:52 | 2237584 akak
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I am the Great Stoolman Mousy Tongue, roadside shitter and mass murderer extraordinaire, and I approve this Chinese citizenism message.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 01:31 | 2234911 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Fucking hilarious, and so close to the truth that it's scary.

 

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 01:58 | 2234950 Kastorsky
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USS Liberty incident

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 09:29 | 2235486 Shylockracy
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Some serious poetical justice in that America's Liberty should succumb to Israeli treachery.

Give ZOG ten more years and the US will be indistinguishable from the West Bank. Check points, ostensive military presence on the streets, extra judicial assassinations, countless thousands inprisoned without judicial process, rampant torture and murder motivated by racial hatred, state-sponsored land theft-demolitions-expulsions, DIME bombs in your living-room at 3 in the morning and schools lit up in white phosphorus.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 00:44 | 2234800 chump666
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There won't be a strike unless Obama can get oil down to 70 or 80.  The FED f*cked this up with their mental brains by talking about some weird version of QE3 - sending oil bid.

Iran can mess with the West now and see how far they can go.  Israel loses the plot and strikes, scratch Saudi oils fields off the map and lock in total war.  Oil $200, world = done.

Chaos.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 01:11 | 2234875 oldman
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@ Chump666

chumper

I was just closing up shop here when i glanced at: " -------Obama can get oil down to 70 or 80"

I had to laugh at this because poor Obama can't even tie his shoe strings, let alone do anything about oil.

All these trolls who run for office are the same, 'bro-------they can't do a thing---just actors and puppets---we truly give them and their "power" far too much importance

I have to laugh at myself several times every day for even imagining that any politician is ever going to do anything intentionally

do you think he can wipe himself with his left hand?

think about it---try to see it in your mind's eye--------you'll laugh, too    

thanks  om

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 01:47 | 2234921 chump666
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You missed my point. The oil price is tied into sentiment, and the FED/Obama will need to engineer a kind of 'the economy is sh*t but don't worry...' sentiment to get the oil price to fall.  Something like that.  If you follow the markets you'll see that oil is bid on positive sentiment, USD sells, or tensions in the middle and/or both.

It's tricky.  Can he do it?  Can the central banks steer global economy with their on/off printing presses? No. We are f*cked forty ways to Sunday.  But. They will try.

You see the last bit of my post

"chaos"

Chaos baby. You can't tame chaos.

 

 

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 03:51 | 2235120 Dugald
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Its prognostication like this that are making me an alcoholic....hic.....

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 00:47 | 2234810 Glass Steagall
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I wish they would detonate one already. How have they not picked up an out-of-box model from Russia yet? Can you just see how that would go? Israel would not shit a chicken – it would shit that red heifer those fuckwads are waiting for…

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 00:56 | 2234844 Abitdodgie
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Why does Russia not just lease say 200 nukes to Iran and then all this shit would just stop.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 01:06 | 2234860 alexwest
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please...

Putin talks anti-American only to own local peasants.. all Russians money are in the West banks: Swiss/Cyprus/Germany.. half of expensive houses in London are owed by Russian mobs/criminals/thiefs like Abramovich.

Russians are just puppets. you know bad cop (USA) / good cop (Russia)..

only China can stop USA/Israel to attack IRAN.. but i dont think it will happen..

Chinese are smart cookies , they are waiting for USA/Europe to start war w/Arabs, and then after depression/hyperinfaltion/oil shocks they will be ready to rule the world

alx

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 01:06 | 2234864 Glass Steagall
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Ya, I get that..

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 01:06 | 2234865 Glass Steagall
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Double post

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 00:47 | 2234814 billsykes
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So another colin powell job with the "aluminum tubes" and yellow bug powder in front of the oil companies- I mean UN.

 

Who cares if iran has nukes- actually its better because then isreal is in check and they have a pakistan bargining chip with India. I say win win.

But then again the obama probably doesnt want those pre paid for iran battle plans going to waste that george Jr.'s dad bought for him.

Also with them counting military service people as employed, then this is a job creation war.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 12:50 | 2236341 the tower
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When Iran has the bomb, peace will break out. Can't have that happen.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 00:52 | 2234832 alexwest
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what about Jews Nuclear Sites Clean-Up?

does IAEA watch out for jews too ? if not.. why not?

its common known fact thatJ ews have nuclear war heads. its violation of 'Non-Proliferation Treaty'

I still cant understand why all countries around Iran like Russia/Israel/Pakistan/India/Iraq_USAed can have nuclear weapons and Iran cant ?

Iran is peacefull country, it never occupied any other country like USA did w/ Iraq/Serbia/etc, it never attacked countries like Israel did in '1967 Arab-Israeli War', it never tried to overthrow goverment like USA did in Iran many times ago..

so, WHY?

alx

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 05:43 | 2235227 StychoKiller
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Iran has no global central bank presence.  Follow the munny:

"The Creature From Jekyll Island, a Second Look at the Federal System",  5th Ed., G. Edward Griffin, ISBN:  978-0-912986-45-6

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 08:03 | 2235335 Bringin It
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Here's a nuc clean up site in Lebanon created by Jews.

Robert Fisk: Mystery of Israel's secret uranium bomb Alarm over radioactive legacy left by attack on Lebanon

http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/fisk/robert-fisk-myste...

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 08:28 | 2235377 Reptil
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Yeah I've seen that, Busby's involved, right? Fallujah they found this residue of ENRICHED uranium as well. They guess it's some kind of new anti personnel FISSION device. An enhanced "bunker buster". Only problem is, it fucks up DNA of everyone (jewish soldiers and civillians too) into eternity. I fail to see what could be the strategic gain of this.
NO ONE in main stream news covered this after the above linked piece. They had 3 different laboratories crosscheck the results, using different methods, supposedly.

Consider the implications of Israël and the USA using nuclear weapons on civillians in the past decade please? Consider they will use this NUKE on Iran? Consider the enriched nano dust will be spread throughout the middle east, and will without any doubt be carried north, north west with trade winds? Even migratory birds use these winds. God I feel helpless.

I'm neither a zionist nor anti-Israël. I think the situation is quite complicated. This complication is obviously lessened, by using this bomb; because there will simply not be living human beings (like us) with their DNA intact, in a few generations. Problem solved? </sarc>

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 08:35 | 2234837 Reptil
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Right.... an above ground "small neutron device" was exploded, and they missed that?

Nope, not buying this, at all...

The IAEA, in case you missed it, is not just a "watchdog" it's also the official marketing department of the western nuclear industry. They say so, themselves, look it up.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 00:58 | 2234839 AUD
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Somehow I think the Iranians know they are being monitored from satellites. They have launched several themselves in the last couple of years.

Sounds like another beat up to me.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 01:10 | 2234868 CompassionateFascist
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I am certain that Iran is engaged in a stealthy slide toward nukes. Remarkably stupid if they aren't, since they will in any case be attacked. Yizroel demands the impossible - Absolute Security - and US must maintain the petrodollar or go to hyperinflation & PonziCollapse. This will be the most over-determined war since 1914. Some Zionist clown on Dennis Miller this A.M. saying they can "smash Iran in 72 hours". Go it, fools.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 05:45 | 2235228 StychoKiller
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The ONLY person with absolute security is the LAST SURVIVOR of the Human race -- good luck with that!

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 00:56 | 2234842 GtownSLV
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Good zoo keepers are hard to find. Is it too late to get Sadam and our $2 trillion back?

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 00:57 | 2234843 Evil Bugeyes
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BUMBA BUMBA BUMBA

The war drums are beating.

No one even considers the possibility that the site might have been messy and the Iranians just wanted to spruce it up a bit before letting outsiders visit it. Just because my wife and I do a little house cleaning before inviting company over doesn't mean that we are building neutron initiators in our living room.

(Actually that is exactly what we are doing, but that's beside the point.)

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 01:00 | 2234853 q99x2
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I guess that is a good reason to have a super power meeting. Although the meeting is more likely to negotiate China and Russia into a deal that allows the globalists to do a little vaporization of their own.

I wish I didn't see the RT ad during the Keiser Report about preventing WWIII.

 

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 01:03 | 2234859 Thomas Anderson
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Solution: Offer to help the Iranians build a Thorium based nuclear reactor plant, there's no chance to make a weapon using thorium for nuclear energy.  Hmmm... maybe the US and Europe should convert all existing nuclear power plants with thorium plants.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 01:28 | 2234902 Dead Canary
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Thorium? That's a sensible solution. Wait, isn't people who have sensible solutions on the DHS list of potential terrorists?

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 05:46 | 2235230 StychoKiller
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"Mr. Anderson, we missed you!"

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 12:46 | 2236322 the tower
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What do you get when you cross an accelerator with a nuclear reactor?

An abundant source of nuclear energy with no danger of meltdown, and a possible solution to the world's energy crisis

http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/blog/2012/feb/09/accelerator-nuclear-reactor

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 01:04 | 2234861 Harbourcity
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Maybe Israel is just reminding Obama of the election coming...?  Sure wouldn't be good for Obama's election prospects if Israel attacked Iran... 

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 01:09 | 2234869 booboo
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achmed and nazzir thought tipping over the porta john was funny until the super powers took the clean up as the go signal to launch ww3. 

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 01:12 | 2234876 rsnoble
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Belch. 20 pack enroute. Doritos for dinner.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 01:15 | 2234879 ekm
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I am re-posting my speculations' line posted in January 2012.

- By March 10 PR campaign against Iran would start

- Attack by March 18-19

- Greece defaults by March 20.

The only reason Bernanke and Draghi come up with idiotic "printing" schemes like today's is to avoid any financial collapse before the attack. That's it, any financial collapse will make an attack un-justifiable.

I will be proven

- correct

- incorrect.

My money is on "correct".

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 01:16 | 2234881 Atomizer
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Were our CIA opperatives, boots on the ground to video this, or was this another propaganda piece?

 

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 01:18 | 2234884 ekm
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What is the difference?

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 01:24 | 2234896 Atomizer
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March 20th Oil Bourse. The sanitized fuckers are at wits end.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 01:29 | 2234904 ekm
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http://www.dailypaul.com/215073/march-20-2012-iranian-oil-bourse-will-start-trading-oil-in-other-currencies-apart-from-the-us-dollar

Thx a lot. Quite, quite interesting. One more reason to re-assert my speculation. It totally slipped away from my radar.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 01:18 | 2234885 Some Bloke
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Petrol here in Australia is $1.40 a litre, or $6.30 a gallon.

But I just put in $30 bucks worth each time, so it's no matter to me if prices go up or down.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 01:22 | 2234892 ekm
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How much of it is government taxes?

Municipal tax, federal tax, acsise, climate change tax, polar bear extinction tax, you name it.

I have no intention to do a research right now, but here in Toronto, about 70% of the price is all kinds of taxes.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 19:03 | 2237594 akak
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.

Petrol here in Australia is $1.40 a litre, or $6.30 a gallon.

 

But I just put in $30 bucks worth each time, so it's no matter to me if prices go up or down.

LOL!

So whether your "$30 bucks" (unclear on the meaning of that particular phrase --- must be another in an endless line of cryptic Australianisms) buys you an entire tankful of gas, or one gallon of gas, is irrelevant?

Congratulations on winning "The Most Stupid ZH Comment of the Day" award.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 01:23 | 2234894 alexwest
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@Tyler : cbo feb 2012 monthly preview

cbo feb 2012 monthly preview is out
http://www.cbo.gov/sites/default/files/cbofiles/attachments/2012_02%20MB...

hey hey hey .. eCONomy IS growing, according B(l)S there are more and more jobs around here, but somehow Feb 2012 receipts are down y/y (feb 2011).. and monthly deficit is mind boggling 229 bln ( bigger than feb 2011)

not long ago it WAS YEAR DEFICIT .. not its monthly

alx

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 01:33 | 2234916 Nobody For President
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Maybe they are just digging a deeper hole. 

 

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 01:46 | 2234932 bankonzhongguo
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When is the IAEA coming to visit an Israeli nuke facility?

India and Pakistan?

How many nukes does Israel have?

Oh.  That's right.  You're a racist for asking the question.

Now go back to sleep.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 01:55 | 2234942 TruthInSunshine
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You're an anti-semite and you are hereby banned from entering Canada, Germany, Britain & a bunch of other nations, for daring to blaspheme Israeli foreign policy and political leaders!

You see, even current and ex-Israeli Defense Officials, Intelligence Officers and Knesset Members who have called out the batshit crazy hawks in Israeli's current government, and who have actually credibly pointed to gaping holes in the claims used to try and justify a preemptive strike on Iran are raging anti-semite Jew haters.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 01:57 | 2234946 Crassus
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Thinking that we JSOC a W80 into a dry BP well (c.1930) in Sistan, light the bitch and say, "That's it, they've got it, next."

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 02:59 | 2235047 mt paul
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maybe Iran 

was just cleaning up

 

from last weeks camel races

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 03:05 | 2235063 cnhedge
Thu, 03/08/2012 - 03:23 | 2235096 Bunga Bunga
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They will blame everything on high oil prices.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 03:40 | 2235114 BlackholeDivestment
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  ...this time I don't want you to get into a fight with a stranger and lose. Your assignment for today is; you have to tell at least 10 perfect starngers ...that you love them, and they have to believe it because you really mean it. 

 

                                               ''I love you Fight Club'' 

 

         See how easy it is? That's way more than 10 people. Something to consider, how much love we never even consider to offer strangers, muchless express to our friends. We really need to see these Nations in the light of our own neglect. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oc1sgCT7X2c&feature=results_video&playnext=1&list=PL59B3AA57FCE34B4B 

 

 

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 04:36 | 2235168 zilverreiger
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bullshit propaganda article

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 08:35 | 2235392 kralizec
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Ron Paul says "don't look under their rugs"!  It's their rugs and none of our damned business!  Got that?

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 09:49 | 2235596 Fix It Again Timmy
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This bomb and blunder shit is getting so old............

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 10:41 | 2235765 roadhazard
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Iran's air force consists of a weather balloon and a kite.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 14:16 | 2236647 Winston Churchill
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This does not make sense.

The triggers for a fission bomb(Hiroshima style) are convential explosives.

The trigger for a hydrogen bomb is a fission device.

Are they saying Iran has the hydrogen bomb ?

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