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Iran Releases Video Of Captured US Drone Plane

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Due to our less than formidable Farsi skills, we present the following Iranian video showing the captured downed US drone plane without commentary. And as they reverse engineer our planes, so we reverse engineer their state media released video.



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Thu, 12/08/2011 - 13:06 | 1959075 HelluvaEngineer
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"We believe this is where it eats."

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 13:10 | 1959111 narapoiddyslexia
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Looks like Uncle Fester found a space alien. If they had any sense, they'd just surrender.

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 13:11 | 1959121 SHEEPFUKKER

Do they serve peanuts on the plane?

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 13:13 | 1959138 trav7777
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we should be looking at blowing this thing up right about now

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 13:14 | 1959154 redpill
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The Iranians won't know what half the stuff inside even is, but the Chicoms sure would love to get their little red fingers on it.

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 13:19 | 1959193 tarsubil
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The Chicoms might learn something but they have little chance of manufacturing anything resembling a replica. The oligarchs are not granting them such privileges. Lead based toothpaste? Oh yeah, they are experts on manufacturing that.

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 13:27 | 1959241 BaBaBouy
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WOW, looks like a design by Steve Jawbs.

China will pay $10 Bill CASH for this thing tomorrow,
or a 100 year supply of Dollar-Store Shit for the entire Pakistan

IRAN Just hit the JACKPOT Here !!!

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 13:28 | 1959262 TruthInSunshine
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It's the Stealth Drone 4s, and it was made in China, with the assistance of North Korean and Pakistani engineers.

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 13:31 | 1959292 BaBaBouy
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Iran / Pakistan, pretty much interchangable ...

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 13:37 | 1959331 TruthInSunshine
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Actually, it could be a trojan horse with Team America stowed away inside.

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 13:53 | 1959443 Harlequin001
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and China's R&D just took a huge leap forward, at no additional cost.

well at least there will be a lot more better quality model aircraft in the shops next Christmas.

No doubt they'll still all be running on the same fucking frequency though, just to piss everybody off...

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 13:53 | 1959457 So Close
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Does not look damaged or "shot down" to me.

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 13:56 | 1959472 TruthInSunshine
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Whisper rumor that Foxconn is getting slammed with orders for its newest drone today...

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 14:00 | 1959492 Harlequin001
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It will be available and on the shelves in Asia in compacted form by Friday.

for only $10 a unit...

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 14:08 | 1959554 pupton
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And for half the price...

The thought that was going through my mind was: "have we just armed Iran with their "delivery vehicle" for the supposed nuke they are building?"  Probably not, nuke warhead's payload would be too heavy for this little drone, right?

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 14:45 | 1959827 Spirit Of Truth
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Ummm....that looks like popsicle sticks and balsa wood!

Figures that we'll probably blow up the world over it...

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 14:00 | 1959496 CrazyCooter
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One day old news ... from the WSJ ...

But the U.S. official said the drone developed mechanical difficulties and remote pilots lost control of the aircraft, and said officials knew immediately it had crashed in eastern Iran.

I would also note composite materials can be (1) much stronger than traditional metals like aluminum and (2) are much lighter, so its possible that it just glided into a desert somewhere as opposed to doing a high speed nose dive.

Not sure how else to explain the condition unless the materials are really THAT strong.



Thu, 12/08/2011 - 14:17 | 1959630 Transformer
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Uhhhh, how about this for an explanation.  Drone virus was very real. . . . someone else took control and landed it.  Notice the undercarriage is covered up, when it landed it probably tore off the gear.  The reason for video was to show the world that it wasn't shot down, and it didn't crash, it was taken over.  Military types in Nevada are having shit fits about now.  Chances of gliding itself down and being intact would be nil.  I would imagine there is also a self destruct mechanism so as to prevent this very thing from happening.  This is a very "In your face"video for the military.

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 14:41 | 1959797 LFMayor
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I think you're dead on. If the history channel about Northrops flying wing from the 50's is indicator, these designs are not inherently stable in flight.  they have to have computer control to compensate, else their attitude in flight gyrates in ever worsening waves.

Someone landed, or semi-landed it.  The covering of the landing gear might be to just throw off the investigation of why/how it came down.

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 23:16 | 1961654 CrazyCooter
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Oh, I am late and no one will see this.

First, I suggest you read the following book (just to be clued in - applies to all readers):

Second, if you don't understand the nature of advanced material sciences these days (e.g. nano-tech materials) then you need to understand it before having an opinion.

Third, I commented once, to a former retired AF officer (former drinking buddy of mine - I live in a remote state now) that with these new materials planes would crash and keep their form and they would scrape the jelly out from the inside and re-use the shell. He just laughed (he thinks I am crazy). He builds F-35s.

So, do some science home work and get back to me on the crash vs controlled decent.

People really need to understand that nanotech is one of the possible Kondratiev waves for the future. I am dead serious; it will re-write manufacturing across the board. I opted not to bet on it with a re-degree from college/university, so take that at face value. For the record, my future K-Waves are; (1) material sciences, (2) energy, (3) bio-informatics, and (4) plow mules.

Take your pick.



Thu, 12/08/2011 - 15:46 | 1960077 KCMLO
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Though I never worked with UAVs, as an AF vet I agree with this assessment.  Either it's a mock-up, and I don't know enough about the RQ-170 to say that it is, or it was brought down rather gently somehow.  However, you use drones to do work "too dangerous" or "politically non-viable" for humans.  The hardware on that drone can't be too valuable given it's role.  By design it was meant to be lost.  They might have new insight into some of the hardware used, but considering it's a collection platform, it's probably nothing particularly exotic.  I flew on the RC-135, the collection systems we used were entirely unclassified, and quite frankly, decently shitty, yet what information we gathered and what we did with it is a different story.

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 16:28 | 1960248 Old Poor Richard
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The bigger drones have pushbutton take off and landing.  They're not remote piloted, they're driven by uploading waypoints into the nav system.  Possible that it landed itself when it was low on fuel after coms were not regained.  If the people in charge had half a brain, when on a mission in hostile territory it would first try to fly back to home turf and if unable then destroy itself.  Some drones carry payloads (interesting receivers and signal processing techniques) which you wouldn't want to hand over to opponents.  It's extremely unlikely that it's radio link could be hijacked, but possible that it could simply be jammed. This is huge fsck-up, not a minor fsck-up, IMO.



Thu, 12/08/2011 - 17:52 | 1960829 DaveyJones
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"politically non-viable for humans" 

I never realized how simple international policy was. I need more beer and oil, honey where are the robots? 

Fri, 12/09/2011 - 04:50 | 1962125 Keri at Bankste...
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Or, try this one: The US intentionally landed the thing in Iran to further the perennial blood thirst, "lets attack Iran" plan.

Or, another---Trojan Horse Plan B: The US lands the thing; it is equipped with satellite tracking; the Iranians take it and its components to various research facilities, and now the US knows the precise location of those facilities (for future strikes, of course).

That's some hellavu composite skin to endure anything other than a controlled descent and remain as intact as it appears, assuming it is what the US or Iran are claiming in the first place. You can't trust either source...unless one mindlessly believes that the US can do no wrong, as too many people already do contend. Furthermore, the US is has admitted that the thing cruised into Iranian airspace, as there's no other way it would have ended up on Iranian soil: what would be the average American's reaction to a news headline on Drudge that an Iranian drone "accidentally" drifted over NYC? The US apparently has license to violate the sovereignty of any nation (ask Pakistan, or family members of the "10 or so civilians" killed for every so-called "militant" drone hit), and to complete such illegal and immoral actions by any means necessary. Such a belligerent and obtuse strategy has historically been known as "picking a fight," or "acts of war."

The CIA flies drones over any nation it desires, and kills people. Hundreds of people. Thousands of people in Pakistan alone, the majority of whom are admittedly civilians and not "terrorists." I'm still totally unclear of exactly how killing "terrorists" with drones in Pakistan is "keeping me safer" in the US. But I've long been unclear of how anything the CIA does "keeps me safer."

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 15:49 | 1960086 Questan1913
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Its condition indicates that early reports that Iran had taken control of the aircraft were correct.  Of course that story was killed.

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 16:49 | 1960443 Kayman
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Foxconn chips that "mysteriously" made it land in China's lapdog, Iran.

We're gonna owe Mossad big-time for destroying this baby in Iran.

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 14:05 | 1959523 Citxmech
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Maybe it landed itself by design.

Wonder if there's "ticking" coming from inside. . .

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 14:10 | 1959576 TruthInSunshine
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No sark -


Iran's new agency is reporting that the Iranian Military hacked into the frequency of the drone and landed it remotely.

I have no idea whatsoever as to whether this is even feasible, but that's what's being reported.


Sark -


Looks like someone forgot to change the Homelink passcode again!

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 14:16 | 1959618 Harlequin001
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It will have flown past some Iranian kid with a $20 toy car on 27Mhz and gone tits up...

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 14:47 | 1959784 TruthInSunshine
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Skynet got jacked with a Radio Shack RC Monster Dune Buggy controiler?

I hope this thing wasn't running Windows Vista.

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 15:52 | 1960101 crazyjsmith
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Go Long Pilots


Thu, 12/08/2011 - 19:47 | 1961158 LongBallsShortBrains
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Or maybe it was a flawed design, so let them spend time reverse engineering a drone that failed to complete its mission.

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 15:56 | 1960115 Smiley
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Control systems could have been hacked and flight control transferred to an Iranian controller who then could have landed it safely.  Don't know for sure but is remote controlled so it is certainly possible.

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 16:07 | 1960161 J 457
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Since its remote controlled, I wonder if they somehow took control of the plane eletronically by computer.

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 19:47 | 1961160 supafuckinmingster
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My guess is either photoshop or lots of strategically placed duct tape.

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 14:17 | 1959626 NoClueSneaker
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Well, if someone had stuffed Ben, Lloyd, Jamie and Timmay inside ....

...byebye Iran. No nukes required.


Thu, 12/08/2011 - 14:46 | 1959838 JW n FL
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I like you and your thinking!

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 15:51 | 1960095 prole
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Exactly what they did to Russia.

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 16:44 | 1960400 NoClueSneaker
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Thx, m8 ...  :-)

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 13:39 | 1959363 The Fonz
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Something about the images in that video made me realize just how fucked Iran is. It looks like a bunch of confused scientists looking at a space craft.  We made that plane and them standing in front of it clueless really drives home just how very very dangerous our military is. How far is Iran from being able to do something like build that craft? Could they ever do it?  This is going to get so very ugly.

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 13:49 | 1959435 narapoiddyslexia
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Which is precisely what I said, above, and got down voted!  Go figure. I guess I have to be more explicit around here.

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 14:02 | 1959463 Harlequin001
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Don't you kid yourself. The other team just got its hands on your technology for free, all of it and in its full operational glory.

For a nation that fights its batles standing behind its missiles first, and then sends its all-too-large and untrained army in second, I don't think you realise what this loss really means, and just how fucked you really are now.

You just gave away all your secrets to the enemy.

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 14:02 | 1959511 tarsubil
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You can't be serious.

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 14:11 | 1959588 Harlequin001
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Oh no. I think it's a huge joke, incredibly funny, not...

Your entire predator project is now offline whilst you guys go figure out how to stop the enemy from simply taking over your entire fleet now that you've effectively given them your software.

I think its incredibly funny that they can now start working on how to hack your ECM and all the other systems you have on these things...

Laugh a minute, that one...

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 14:16 | 1959624 TruthInSunshine
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I don't think Americans need worry much.

If this were the real thing, it will be festooned with scrawled messages in magic marker such as "Stealth, bitchez!," "We're #1," "Suck This Iran!," and a sticker that read 'Designed in Cupertino, California. Fabricated in China.'

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 14:48 | 1959842 narapoiddyslexia
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All the damage from the crash and the self-destruct charges was hidden by the cloth.

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 14:49 | 1959848 Harlequin001
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so little if any damage then...

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 15:19 | 1959976 narapoiddyslexia
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Its bizarre that they would display it that way. Godlike, draped with cloth which just happens to cover more than half the surface. And the rear is entirely unseen... clever staging for the thoughtless dweebs.

Not so dumb, though, is it? It keeps the CIA from findng out exactly how much is intact. And how much osn't.

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 16:54 | 1960153 crazyjsmith
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ZH quote back on 10/7 - eerie - ZH is so way ahead of the game

"Next up: "terrorists" intercept control of America's drone system. That may explain why authorities are mulling the consequences of a New York nuclear strike. News not at eleven."

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 14:43 | 1959812 stewie
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Assuming the softwre is intact is a mistake.


Thu, 12/08/2011 - 14:50 | 1959843 Harlequin001
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No it 's not. The mistake is in assuming that it isn't...

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 14:11 | 1959583 Citxmech
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I cannot believe that these things don't have some kind of auto destruct for sensitive portions of the system.  Or how about a timed locator beacon to guide a precision guided munition?

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 15:41 | 1960056 Silver Bully
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Getting a little ahead of ourselves, are we? The U.S. is now completely screwed over a drone? Srsly? You do realize this is a recon drone, right? It isn't even armed. It is cheaper, more flexible, and more disposable than sending in a manned plane, like a U2 or somesuch. If you look at the defense industry wordwide, EVERYODY is developing these things like they're iPods. Even Pakistan has their own inhouse models. The RQ is not that big of a deal, technology-wise. The fact it went down in Iran, that's the big deal.

Meanwhile, only the spooks on both sides know how exactly this went down. I'm rather doubtful Iran could take it over remotely without some serious outside assistance. Iran couldn't even do the propaganda right - 'shot down' instead of 'hacked'? Really? This smells like an engine failure with a controlled landing, or a Chicom hacking job.

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 22:28 | 1961546 Reptil
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yeah or some russians/chinese advisors trying their new EMP shit. just guessing.

it's expendable technology. otherwise this wouldn't be up there right now. it is probably a loss though, and i'm sure there's interest from 3rd parties.


Bottom line is... both in Iraq, Afghanistan and elsewhere, the US militairy is not supposed to make a swift decisive victory that ends the conflicts. Keeping the conflict going in perpetuity is way too profitable for the people in control of NATO and the US militairy. That was also the reason to let Osama bin Laden's gang escape twice during the first stages of the war. They are useful CIA assets in that they provide an "evil" adversary, whithout entagonising the chinese or russians (who both aren't too fond of fundamentalist religion freaks either). That the USA went broke on wars and handouts to the top 1% is by design. It's a big lever that transports wealth and power from civil society to a war machine. What's left is a mess, as anyone here can see. Ordo ab chao. I.o.w. presuming traditional victory over an enemy's forces is the end goal, is wrong.

Go wave some flags, suckers. We're all cannonfodder soon, if these clowns get their wish.


Fri, 12/09/2011 - 03:16 | 1962079 Ahmeexnal
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I am inclined towards the chinese hacking the drone.

After all, they have already hacked Ogolfer's teleprompter several times.

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 13:51 | 1959445 Chuck Norris
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The Iranians are screwed as long as Federal Reserve Notes can pay for this technology.  Once the dollar dies U.S. military dominance ends.  Who will hang on longer - the Iranians or the dollar?

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 14:00 | 1959498 narapoiddyslexia
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The dollar can remain irrational longer than Iran can remain solvent.

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 14:03 | 1959516 tarsubil
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How do you know?

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 14:44 | 1959820 narapoiddyslexia
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The dollar's been irrational since 1913. They [Bernie and the Gang] can string this out a long time, and they intend to make it last for years more. 

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 14:54 | 1959875 Dave Thomas
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I was wondering if they got their banners made at FastSigns.


I'm sure there is a handfull of engineers in Iran that could reverse engineer and understand that thing. The generals who get to show off their manly beards though, not so much.



Thu, 12/08/2011 - 19:45 | 1961155 CompassionateFascist
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1,000,000 Iranians died repelling the Isramerican aggression fronted by Sadaam Hussein during the 1980s war. That degree of nationalist dedication should be sufficient to close the Straits of Hormuz during the next Zionist war of aggression; hi-tech doesn't enter into it. Straits close, oil spikes to >$300/barrel, goodbye dollar.  

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 19:50 | 1961169 supafuckinmingster
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..."How far is Iran from being able to do something like build that craft?"...


Do you mean build a craft like it, or do you mean deliver it gift wrapped to their main enemy just as tensions are peaking......???


Take a bow US Military.

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 17:20 | 1960656 steelhead23
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wrongo - RQ-170, Lockeed Skunkworks and yeah, I am flat shocked the U.S. has not destroyed it.  It is flat loaded with secrets.  Indeed, the fact that it is still intact suggest something a bit odd - did the U.S. lose this plane on purpose?

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 13:37 | 1959271 Ahmeexnal
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Fucktards, they should not be touching that thing with their bare hands. The outer coating (as the F117a) contains cancer inducing chemicals.

At 1:17 you get to witness the iranian garlic death breath.
Maybe that's how they brought down that drone.

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 13:44 | 1959403 The Fonz
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You know I wouldn't be too suprised if the Russians just hacked it and made it land. The Russians got a massive advantage in hacking due to the fact that opposing russian maffia was making rootkits due to the high level of maffia activity there. They got so good at it that they could program one rootkit to fight another on your computer and you wouldn't know it was there. One day you'd have the first set of problems and the POOF they would go away because you downloaded the oppositions anti virus, root kit ect. Our military realized that it needed to get its shit in order when they used their skills to attack georgia recently.

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 19:47 | 1961159 CompassionateFascist
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U mean S. Carolina.

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 13:30 | 1959286 The Big Ching-aso
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Immutable state-of-the-art invincible drone law:    What flies up can fly down.

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 14:15 | 1959613 JPM Hater001
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Um, Ms Crabgrass, I know we havent been on the best of terms but do you think we can get our baseball back?

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 13:24 | 1959242 patb
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That's what the Germans said about America in 37. " Clever and good at making razor blades, but nothing at war."

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 13:28 | 1959269 Smiddywesson
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Pretty much accurate at the beginning of the war, not so much at the end.

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 17:10 | 1960601 Kayman
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America was re-arming long before the J-boys tipped Herr Hitler to declare war.

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 13:30 | 1959284 tarsubil
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Did they forget the whole WWI thing?

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 13:43 | 1959398 Ahmeexnal
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Seems you've never drank german Glühwein.

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 13:48 | 1959427 dwdollar
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Patriotism? Is that suppose to make me feel all warm and fuzzy inside for my phantom tribe?

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 14:46 | 1959823 TruthInSunshine
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That's before Germany learned that strived for perfectionism and anal retentiveness loses to U.S. mass production, an ingenious Russian engineer working on a scorched-field budget figured out that angling the armor plating on a tank at a 45 degree angle more than doubles its ability to repel armor piercing projectiles, and that Mother Nature can lay to waste the best planning & equipment of men.

And such.

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 15:00 | 1959896 Dave Thomas
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Yep, you'd also have some US Farm boy type that could outshoot your average German Alvin York style. That and they had no qualms about lashing together shit in the battlefield. Germans wouldn't field repair their stuff unless they got the replacement ball bearings massaged by Otto Von Krupp himself.



Thu, 12/08/2011 - 15:22 | 1959986 TruthInSunshine
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M1 Garand and BAR ruled the day amongst light infantry.

The only flaw of the Garand (clanking report on empty magazine) was turned into a tactical advantage on the fly by improvising GIs.

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 16:04 | 1960141 HungrySeagull
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Fuck you for the Krupp comment.


WE got the ball bearings going prior to world war one and then sold off some machines to Germany to have them make good bearings.

Apparently we dedicated 1000 plane bomber missions to take the ball bearings off the earth pernamently and still planes kept getting produced.

If it is one thing the Germans understand is no matter how deep in it they get, they keep right on working to make best of it.


As far as the Drone is concerned we handed Iran a present and since the 117 loss in Bonsia, we can expect China and the like to swarm the Iranians to massage them into orgasm while they make off with the goods.


It is my hope that there is nothing inside the drone except an engine made in china and so forth.

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 17:14 | 1960616 Kayman
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I'll be happy to be corrected, but didn't the Russians simply copy the angled armor technique to an entire tank (the T34) ?

I am sure I have seen pictures of sloping armor before, but not on an entire tank turret...

Fri, 12/09/2011 - 06:30 | 1962160 TruthInSunshine
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Kayman, you may very well be correct (that the Russians angled the armor at the most vulnerable points - especially the front and rear).


As an aside, KCLMO & Steelhead win some sort of prize, b/c late breaking news has it that anonymous U.S. sources are confirming this is indeed a RQ-170 drone and that this is a major issue for the boys at the Pentagon.

But who knows what the hell is the real story, as in all such matters as these.

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 19:49 | 1961165 CompassionateFascist
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Halfwit v. Ribbontrop said this. Goering replied: "we could do with some of those razor blades...".

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 13:27 | 1959255 SheepDog-One
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Right tarsubil, just like the clownish Chinese subs which surface right in the middle of US carrier battle groups...theyve got nothing Im sure.


Thu, 12/08/2011 - 13:29 | 1959275 tarsubil
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I hadn't heard about that. How's their russian carrier working out? Have they built a reliable fighter engine yet? I admittedly haven't followed it in a while.

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 16:06 | 1960155 HungrySeagull
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It's ok. They have a good fighter and supposidely have deployed them. It will be a while before they build a true big deck. Maybe they learned to not use a full deck and just hammer and duct tape together something that works well for them.

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 16:59 | 1960522 NoClueSneaker
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Hm, check Su-30 MKI and Mig 29K . ( The best of 4th generation, by the estimation of RAF who flew it, without radar support ).

PAK-FA  ( T-50 ), the 5th generation flies, but another 3 yrs, ( more like 5 ), till production.

Supposed to be equal to F-22, but 50 MM cheaper . ( F-22 indefinately downed ).

It's hard not to fall in love with Su-30MKI. It was 37 yrs. ago when I build F-14 from Revell Kit. Somehow the same feeling.




Sun, 12/11/2011 - 00:11 | 1967151 HungrySeagull
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The Russians have built them... pretty.


I built a model of the US Navy Valkarye I think it was. It was such a Pig...

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 13:37 | 1959338 Kaiser Sousa
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exactly...the dumb foreigners...they couldnt possiblly match wits we those brilliant americans...

precisely why the fucking cesspool known as the USA is on its last lap....HUBRIS

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 13:51 | 1959448 tarsubil
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China is not all foreigners.

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 17:46 | 1960795 Monedas
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We won WWII simply because our planes were by far the sexiest things the world ever saw ! The Spitfire was good lookin' too ! You don't think that's important, my little Krautlich ? Monedas 2011 Full blooded German-Americans weren't allowed to fight against Germany ! Trivia Treats by Monedas 2011

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 14:16 | 1959622 Uber Vandal
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When the U.S. Navy deploys a battle fleet on exercises, it takes the security of its aircraft carriers very seriously indeed.

At least a dozen warships provide a physical guard while the technical wizardry of the world's only military superpower offers an invisible shield to detect and deter any intruders.

That is the theory. Or, rather, was the theory.

American military chiefs have been left dumbstruck by an undetected Chinese submarine popping up at the heart of a recent Pacific exercise and close to the vast U.S.S. Kitty Hawk - a 1,000ft supercarrier with 4,500 personnel on board.

By the time it surfaced the 160ft Song Class diesel-electric attack submarine is understood to have sailed within viable range for launching torpedoes or missiles at the carrier.


Thu, 12/08/2011 - 14:23 | 1959674 Harlequin001
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It was lost...

just trying to get some directions I'm sure...

You're lucky it didn't bump into them.

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 15:03 | 1959911 Dave Thomas
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Woulda been funny if the hatch on the Song class opened up, and some Chinese cook popped out, "Who order pork fry rice, and steam dumpring?"

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 16:07 | 1960159 HungrySeagull
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Thu, 12/08/2011 - 16:13 | 1960181 Almost Solvent
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Thanks, now I have snorted coffee all over my keyboard . . .

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 18:38 | 1960980 TheFourthStooge-ing
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"Herro, shitty wok, take order prease"


Thu, 12/08/2011 - 16:10 | 1960165 HungrySeagull
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There are supposed to be two SSN's out there somewhere with each CVBG. Underwater is a world of sound. If there is a hole of silence coming from the sneaky chinese no one will know.


I would not be surprised to see technology coming soon that will penetrate ocean water the way we look into a fish bowl looking for the shit that settled to the bottom.


We build carriers. They dont. But submariners grow a pair and REALLY NEED the experience of getting close and personal with one of our big carriers. The emotional, mental and physical adulation they recieve just for banging one (Whoops.. so solly) is so worth it in peacetime.


In war, those carriers will experience a hell of a defense problem which should be pretty well refined now that we use VLM's instead of 40 foot rings with electric motors to load one rail while firing the other.

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 17:19 | 1960647 Kayman
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So who is dumber ?  The super carrier group who supposedly didn't detect a Chinese sub in their midst ?  Or the owner of the Chinese sub who supposedly was undetected until he surfaced ?

Fuck man... ask Alfred E. Neuman.  This is Spy vs. Spy....

Fri, 12/09/2011 - 07:06 | 1962175 chindit13
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And that sub dropped off Sichuan Take-Out menus to the whole Pacific Fleet.  Novel marketing technique.

Actually, it was less technical brilliance than incompetence.  It was a diesel powered sub and US ears are always looking for a nuclear footprint.  The Japanese, who are generally more concerned with China than the US is, did nail it.

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 13:30 | 1959283 non_anon
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no need to, our politicos and multinational corps just give them the technology

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 20:01 | 1961200 4horse
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oligarchs, by any other name, grant such privileges when/where however they like:

Israel secretly sells American nuclear weapons to China (2004)

an oligarch is an Iago: I Do What I do
                                         F U

. . . being Iago means never having to say you're sorry

Israel wants 20 Billion more (2011)
US regime promises Israel THIRTY BILLION DOLLARS from US taxpayers
Israel wants $450 million extra from US for new Nazi-style checkpoints

Israel asks America for $12 billion dollars more (2003)

Fri, 12/09/2011 - 02:30 | 1962039 Sizzurp
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This thing looks nearly intact.  My guess it was hacked and landed, maybe by a Chicom team on the ground in Iran.  The chicoms get the drone on the down low, and Ahmendinijad gets the glory.  I am surprised they are using this kind of technology for missions in the ghan because the Taliwackers don't have radar.  It makes no sense to risk this type of stealth asset for a taliban mission.  Nope this thing was probably snooping well into Iran.

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 16:57 | 1960498 Green Leader
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@ Redpill:

Iranians are highly intelligent Aryan people, do NOT be mistaken:

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 17:28 | 1960704 Kayman
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If Iranians are so fucking smart, why did they pick the Nazis ?  I'd say the rape of nearly all German woman by the Russians, could hardly be called a little bit of an ass kicking....

And where were the brave, fearless Nazis ?  Oh yeah, all fucking dead...

Don't let your ego over-ride your brain, my little Aryan...

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 19:55 | 1961179 CompassionateFascist
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They "picked" Germany because they wanted to side with the aggressed-against, instead of the aggressors.

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 17:38 | 1960754 DFCtomm
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Why? It doesn't look like anything special mechanically. What's valuable is the control and com systems, and that may very well have been fried remotely.

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 23:13 | 1961647 mkkby
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Exactly Redpill.  China and Russia will pay dearly for this.

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 13:17 | 1959177 kridkrid
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I'm a little surprised that there isn't some sort of "self destruct" feature.  In fact, I'd kind of guess there is.  Which leads me to believe that they Iranians have it for a reason.  Your reason seems reasonable.

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 13:33 | 1959303 horsewithnonick
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The Iranians undoubtedly got very cagey security-wise with their networks after Stuxnet, and don't let just anything onto their computers - but what if they had something they just couldn't resist trying to decrypt?

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 13:38 | 1959342 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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Sun, 12/04/2011 - 14:19 | 1944482 Mr Lennon Hendrix

Maybe the US Military landed it on Iranian soil as a False Flag?

Just sayin'....

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 13:43 | 1959393 FreedomGuy
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Unless this is some Trojan Horse which will blow up when Ahmadinejab gets close, I am pissed that we let this fall into enemy hands. I am sure the Russians and Chinese are in a bidding war for this thing.

I am still suspicious of why we didn't blow up the spy plane that landed in Hainan, China under George Bush. Personally, I don't understand why we have security and classified documents at the Pentagon if we are just going to fly our technology over to our enemies.

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 13:54 | 1959459 Totentänzerlied
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speak for yourself, they aren't my enemies

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 14:20 | 1959649 pupton
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Regardless of how we may feel about them, I'm pretty sure they still consider us to be their "enemy", or at least rivals. 

I do wonder how this thing ended up in such good condition after crash landing.  I do sort of wonder if we gave them this thing (sans any REAL technology) to keep them busy.  Perhaps the plan would be to hope that they take it to some secret "Area 51" type of place that we didn't know about before.  Then using some undetectable tracking beacon we would have a location to bomb when we don't declare war on them...just a crazy theory that probably isn't true.

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 17:31 | 1960721 Kayman
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Thanks for your input Mr. Chamberlain.  Is that a piece of toilet paper you are waving in your hand...

Fri, 12/09/2011 - 20:19 | 1964881 FreedomGuy
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They may not be actively hostile enemies but if you think they wish us well in any endeavor short of destroying ourselves and leaving them to be the dominant powers in the world you are living in an alternate universe. There are reasons we spy on each other. Friends just call and say "Wazzup?".

They are not even particularly fond of each other.

Fri, 12/09/2011 - 23:16 | 1965319 YHC-FTSE
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Do you know what's so sad about this thread? You really don't realize that you, the USA, are the new Nazis, and we, the rest of the world, are playing Chamberlain right now. Do you see anyone else's tanks, drones, private killers, and armies rolling into other people's countries, stealing resources and killing innocent people? If you have to be paranoid and need clear indicators from history to identify dangerous megalomaniacs, you need only to look inward at Washington DC. It fits the Nazi profile 99%.

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 15:11 | 1959955 Dave Thomas
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They destroyed the ELINT systems and ECM/ECCM equipment as they were going down. The Chinese just picked over a P3 Orion at that point.

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 14:53 | 1959870 ljag
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Why drones in the 1st place? Save American lives?..........HAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA that is a hoot.

This will be the excuse we need to put our boys back in the cockpit. The idea is to spend 'em......not save 'em. Truth hurts.........ouch!

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 13:42 | 1959391 RafterManFMJ
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we should be looking at blowing this thing up right about now

Just like we did when our SUPER SECRET MEGA HIGH TECH HAPPY FUN TIME recon plane was 'accidentally' rammed by the Red Chinese, and then the crew landed on Chinese territory, where it was dismantled by Chinese engineers...sure man! Say, why don't we nuke it.

If you go blowing up people who have legitmately, in this case, shot or forced down an warplane flying over thier own soveriegn territroy you are not a nation but in fact a terrorist imperial power.  Never thought I'd see you Trav advocating something like this.


Thu, 12/08/2011 - 14:37 | 1959757 LongSoupLine
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I know Farsi, and the whole commentary focuses on the embarrassment regarding Iran's outdated 1970's "Bad News Bears" hat technology.

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 14:55 | 1959880 Mugatu
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No need to worry.  This drone was built with 15 year old technology and was designed to be of little technological value since it is a recon drone that could be lost over enemy territory.  It does not even have jagged landing gear doors and is considered a low observable craft versus fully stealthed.  It was made so that if it was lost, very few secrets could be obtained from it.  The truely ground-breaking UAV's with incredible technology tend to have very little info on the web on them and they have more than one engine so they are more survivable.  

This is merely a propaganda victory and nothing else.

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 17:46 | 1960793 monoloco
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Maybe they're waiting for Amanutjob to stick his head in for a look.

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 19:23 | 1961097 CompassionateFascist
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Agreed. Provided this "thing"=Israel.

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 15:37 | 1960041 A Nanny Moose
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No but TSA will be strip searching.

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 16:12 | 1960178 HungrySeagull
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And with the updated defination of Rape should put a stop to that.

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 19:11 | 1961070 Cadavre
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It looks a lot like a Lockheed Martin RQ-170 Sentinel. The vid is hiding the under carriage (i thought the grill was posed to be chrome),

First US press release had the AF taking the blame - lost control - 150 clicks inside Iran - yeah right.  Then - later a u-turn and the CIA without comment fessed up it was theirs. (Guilty but with an eclaimation that would require the hearer of fact to be assassinated after being informed, ya' hona').

CIA "combat" drones are typically driven by Xe contractors.

This drone ain't some innocuous off the shelf spy drone. It's trade name is the  "Beast of Kanfahar".- And it got some really nassitty stuff according to this article from Defense Forum of India.

Nasty indeed:

"Since RQ-170 is a product of Lockheed Martin’s Skunk Works and property of United States Air Force nothing much can be known of it. Experts’ claims it could be configured to carry “a high-powered microwave source” to fry computers and electronic equipment on the ground, or an electronic jamming platform to support other aircraft. But at the official level, silence surrounds the Beast of Kandahar and its potential combat or non-combat functions."




Thu, 12/08/2011 - 13:20 | 1959132 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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If they had any sense, they'd just surrender.

Who?  The US Military?

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 13:32 | 1959299 machineh
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No, the U.S. Mainstream Media.

You know, the goofballs who assured us that the drone fell from a high altitude and busted into a million pieces. Lies ... all lies.

This video greatly bolsters the hypothesis that adversarial hackers hijacked the drone and brought it to a soft landing.

Obviously, those ace hackers aren't central bankers, who almost never manage soft landings!

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 14:09 | 1959569 tiger7905
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Here is the essence of what is said from translated from a friend formerly from Iran.


Thu, 12/08/2011 - 15:49 | 1960088 fourchan
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they were equally amazed when we invented the light bulb and they saw it 50 years later.

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 16:14 | 1960186 HungrySeagull
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Only when we bitch and moan on Jan 1 2012 that those light bulbs are banned and can only be found on the bay for 50 dollars per.


We have converted to LED long ago. Reducing that 200 dollar electric bill to less than 40 and enabling us to potentially power the home on 1/3 less solar panels.

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 17:54 | 1960836 Leraconteur
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Am I the only human who can see the difference in the visible spectrum that CFL throw off compared to ICBs?

CFL's make the world look ugly. Colors of paint are off, food looks bad, skin tone is ugly, blemishes are amplified and clothes look like crap.

The damn things have made the world ugly.

I want my yellow (sun) glow ICBs. 

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 17:59 | 1960856 Kayman
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The light bulb was in invented by a "infidel" so the Mullahs, taking instructions from the angry big guy in the sky, refuse to use it.

Fri, 12/09/2011 - 01:44 | 1961999 Yamaha
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Lets see here.......


Lost plane with tracking signal and not really stealth........looks like this:


Game Over.........another Iran Facility Explosion for "Unknown Reasons"

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 13:17 | 1959155 LMAO
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LOL, and since you are an engineer, what is the purpose of these flags attached to the bodywork?

Aerodynamics, Stealth-mode, fuel efficiency......?

Personally I think this sucker must be LOUD because of these flags, they probably heard it coming from miles away.

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 13:17 | 1959176 dickizinya
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the flags are kinka like attaching baseball cards to your bike spokes.  all the iranian kids do it.



Thu, 12/08/2011 - 13:21 | 1959211 pods
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Funniest comment EVER!


Thu, 12/08/2011 - 13:44 | 1959401 BKbroiler
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Best. Top Comment. Ever.

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 13:49 | 1959423 GOSPLAN HERO
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Russians and Chicoms will get a peek at it.

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 13:58 | 1959484 Bokkenrijder
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Long plywood and special effect studios!

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 14:17 | 1959631 greyghost
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i have it from reliable sources that the iranians out sourced the creation of this full scale aircraft to the lego company. it is all part of a new amusement park in iran devoted to the great satan........

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 14:29 | 1959718 BandGap
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"Should my wife have such curves!"

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 14:59 | 1959891 ilion
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Can anybody explain how a shot-down plane looks physically like its a brand new one? Shouldn't there be any scratches, at least. I mean if a plane falls down the sky, is this something it looks like afterwards?

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 16:46 | 1960416 The Heart
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Well, if the trade towers can come crashing down at the speed of gravity because of a fire in the top, and building number 7 can suddenly come crashing down like an "imploded building we all are reminiscent of", er rather, pulled, then my BBQ must do the same, and so does the fireplace grate, all come crashing down at the speed of gravity.

So it is simple to explain...some guys with a box cutters brought it down.

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 15:11 | 1959952 caconhma
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This is just absolutely incredible that Iranians were able to take control of the plane in-flight and landed in on their territory. It has been a catastrophic USAF failure.

Either Chinese and/or Russians specialist have provided Iranians with super technologies and know-how to achieve this intercept. Not only the USA lost a very valuable plane together with super-secret technologies but the entire Pentagon pilotless-flying military strategy has been destroyed. It will require Americans at least 2-3 years to understand the design failures and  develop new ways to use the pilotless-combat drown again.


Thu, 12/08/2011 - 15:18 | 1959970 quintago
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I'm pretty sure this video proves that the drone was hacked and taken over. Somebody forgot to install Windows Defender.

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 16:36 | 1960333 The Heart
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Thu, 12/08/2011 - 17:44 | 1960781 PulauHantu29
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Ebay. I saw these on Ebay last week.

Don't believe these Farsi guys....They're full of BS.

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 19:26 | 1961108 Yamaha
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It is my understand from top levels of the CIA that President Carter was at the controls when it crashed.............

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 13:06 | 1959078 YesWeKahn
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It doesn't look like being shot down.

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 13:09 | 1959104 moonman
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It wasnt, it landed in that hanger and unveiled the mock American Flag. Thats the default sotware.

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