Iran Releases Video Of Captured US Drone Plane
Due to our less than formidable Farsi skills, we present the following Iranian video showing the captured downed US drone plane without commentary. And as they reverse engineer our planes, so we reverse engineer their state media released video.
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"We believe this is where it eats."
Looks like Uncle Fester found a space alien. If they had any sense, they'd just surrender.
Do they serve peanuts on the plane?
we should be looking at blowing this thing up right about now
The Iranians won't know what half the stuff inside even is, but the Chicoms sure would love to get their little red fingers on it.
The Chicoms might learn something but they have little chance of manufacturing anything resembling a replica. The oligarchs are not granting them such privileges. Lead based toothpaste? Oh yeah, they are experts on manufacturing that.
WOW, looks like a design by Steve Jawbs.
China will pay $10 Bill CASH for this thing tomorrow,
or a 100 year supply of Dollar-Store Shit for the entire Pakistan
Nation...
IRAN Just hit the JACKPOT Here !!!
It's the Stealth Drone 4s, and it was made in China, with the assistance of North Korean and Pakistani engineers.
Iran / Pakistan, pretty much interchangable ...
Actually, it could be a trojan horse with Team America stowed away inside.
and China's R&D just took a huge leap forward, at no additional cost.
well at least there will be a lot more better quality model aircraft in the shops next Christmas.
No doubt they'll still all be running on the same fucking frequency though, just to piss everybody off...
Does not look damaged or "shot down" to me.
Whisper rumor that Foxconn is getting slammed with orders for its newest drone today...
It will be available and on the shelves in Asia in compacted form by Friday.
for only $10 a unit...
And for half the price...
The thought that was going through my mind was: "have we just armed Iran with their "delivery vehicle" for the supposed nuke they are building?" Probably not, nuke warhead's payload would be too heavy for this little drone, right?
Ummm....that looks like popsicle sticks and balsa wood!
Figures that we'll probably blow up the world over it...
http://www.spiritoftruth.org/Thesis/Intro
One day old news ... from the WSJ ...
I would also note composite materials can be (1) much stronger than traditional metals like aluminum and (2) are much lighter, so its possible that it just glided into a desert somewhere as opposed to doing a high speed nose dive.
Not sure how else to explain the condition unless the materials are really THAT strong.
Regards,
Cooter
Uhhhh, how about this for an explanation. Drone virus was very real. . . . someone else took control and landed it. Notice the undercarriage is covered up, when it landed it probably tore off the gear. The reason for video was to show the world that it wasn't shot down, and it didn't crash, it was taken over. Military types in Nevada are having shit fits about now. Chances of gliding itself down and being intact would be nil. I would imagine there is also a self destruct mechanism so as to prevent this very thing from happening. This is a very "In your face"video for the military.
I think you're dead on. If the history channel about Northrops flying wing from the 50's is indicator, these designs are not inherently stable in flight. they have to have computer control to compensate, else their attitude in flight gyrates in ever worsening waves.
Someone landed, or semi-landed it. The covering of the landing gear might be to just throw off the investigation of why/how it came down.
Oh, I am late and no one will see this.
First, I suggest you read the following book (just to be clued in - applies to all readers):
http://books.google.com/books/about/Nanotechnology.html?id=m9Tn_V4an28C
Second, if you don't understand the nature of advanced material sciences these days (e.g. nano-tech materials) then you need to understand it before having an opinion.
Third, I commented once, to a former retired AF officer (former drinking buddy of mine - I live in a remote state now) that with these new materials planes would crash and keep their form and they would scrape the jelly out from the inside and re-use the shell. He just laughed (he thinks I am crazy). He builds F-35s.
So, do some science home work and get back to me on the crash vs controlled decent.
People really need to understand that nanotech is one of the possible Kondratiev waves for the future. I am dead serious; it will re-write manufacturing across the board. I opted not to bet on it with a re-degree from college/university, so take that at face value. For the record, my future K-Waves are; (1) material sciences, (2) energy, (3) bio-informatics, and (4) plow mules.
Take your pick.
Regards,
Cooter
Though I never worked with UAVs, as an AF vet I agree with this assessment. Either it's a mock-up, and I don't know enough about the RQ-170 to say that it is, or it was brought down rather gently somehow. However, you use drones to do work "too dangerous" or "politically non-viable" for humans. The hardware on that drone can't be too valuable given it's role. By design it was meant to be lost. They might have new insight into some of the hardware used, but considering it's a collection platform, it's probably nothing particularly exotic. I flew on the RC-135, the collection systems we used were entirely unclassified, and quite frankly, decently shitty, yet what information we gathered and what we did with it is a different story.
The bigger drones have pushbutton take off and landing. They're not remote piloted, they're driven by uploading waypoints into the nav system. Possible that it landed itself when it was low on fuel after coms were not regained. If the people in charge had half a brain, when on a mission in hostile territory it would first try to fly back to home turf and if unable then destroy itself. Some drones carry payloads (interesting receivers and signal processing techniques) which you wouldn't want to hand over to opponents. It's extremely unlikely that it's radio link could be hijacked, but possible that it could simply be jammed. This is huge fsck-up, not a minor fsck-up, IMO.
"politically non-viable for humans"
I never realized how simple international policy was. I need more beer and oil, honey where are the robots?
Or, try this one: The US intentionally landed the thing in Iran to further the perennial blood thirst, "lets attack Iran" plan.
Or, another---Trojan Horse Plan B: The US lands the thing; it is equipped with satellite tracking; the Iranians take it and its components to various research facilities, and now the US knows the precise location of those facilities (for future strikes, of course).
That's some hellavu composite skin to endure anything other than a controlled descent and remain as intact as it appears, assuming it is what the US or Iran are claiming in the first place. You can't trust either source...unless one mindlessly believes that the US can do no wrong, as too many people already do contend. Furthermore, the US is has admitted that the thing cruised into Iranian airspace, as there's no other way it would have ended up on Iranian soil: what would be the average American's reaction to a news headline on Drudge that an Iranian drone "accidentally" drifted over NYC? The US apparently has license to violate the sovereignty of any nation (ask Pakistan, or family members of the "10 or so civilians" killed for every so-called "militant" drone hit), and to complete such illegal and immoral actions by any means necessary. Such a belligerent and obtuse strategy has historically been known as "picking a fight," or "acts of war."
The CIA flies drones over any nation it desires, and kills people. Hundreds of people. Thousands of people in Pakistan alone, the majority of whom are admittedly civilians and not "terrorists." I'm still totally unclear of exactly how killing "terrorists" with drones in Pakistan is "keeping me safer" in the US. But I've long been unclear of how anything the CIA does "keeps me safer."
Its condition indicates that early reports that Iran had taken control of the aircraft were correct. Of course that story was killed.
Foxconn chips that "mysteriously" made it land in China's lapdog, Iran.
We're gonna owe Mossad big-time for destroying this baby in Iran.
Maybe it landed itself by design.
Wonder if there's "ticking" coming from inside. . .
No sark -
Iran's new agency is reporting that the Iranian Military hacked into the frequency of the drone and landed it remotely.
I have no idea whatsoever as to whether this is even feasible, but that's what's being reported.
Sark -
Looks like someone forgot to change the Homelink passcode again!
It will have flown past some Iranian kid with a $20 toy car on 27Mhz and gone tits up...
Skynet got jacked with a Radio Shack RC Monster Dune Buggy controiler?
I hope this thing wasn't running Windows Vista.
Go Long Pilots
Or maybe it was a flawed design, so let them spend time reverse engineering a drone that failed to complete its mission.
Control systems could have been hacked and flight control transferred to an Iranian controller who then could have landed it safely. Don't know for sure but is remote controlled so it is certainly possible.
Since its remote controlled, I wonder if they somehow took control of the plane eletronically by computer.
My guess is either photoshop or lots of strategically placed duct tape.
Well, if someone had stuffed Ben, Lloyd, Jamie and Timmay inside ....
...byebye Iran. No nukes required.
I like you and your thinking!
Exactly what they did to Russia.
Thx, m8 ... :-)
Something about the images in that video made me realize just how fucked Iran is. It looks like a bunch of confused scientists looking at a space craft. We made that plane and them standing in front of it clueless really drives home just how very very dangerous our military is. How far is Iran from being able to do something like build that craft? Could they ever do it? This is going to get so very ugly.
Which is precisely what I said, above, and got down voted! Go figure. I guess I have to be more explicit around here.
Don't you kid yourself. The other team just got its hands on your technology for free, all of it and in its full operational glory.
For a nation that fights its batles standing behind its missiles first, and then sends its all-too-large and untrained army in second, I don't think you realise what this loss really means, and just how fucked you really are now.
You just gave away all your secrets to the enemy.
You can't be serious.
Oh no. I think it's a huge joke, incredibly funny, not...
Your entire predator project is now offline whilst you guys go figure out how to stop the enemy from simply taking over your entire fleet now that you've effectively given them your software.
I think its incredibly funny that they can now start working on how to hack your ECM and all the other systems you have on these things...
Laugh a minute, that one...
I don't think Americans need worry much.
If this were the real thing, it will be festooned with scrawled messages in magic marker such as "Stealth, bitchez!," "We're #1," "Suck This Iran!," and a sticker that read 'Designed in Cupertino, California. Fabricated in China.'
All the damage from the crash and the self-destruct charges was hidden by the cloth.
so little if any damage then...
Its bizarre that they would display it that way. Godlike, draped with cloth which just happens to cover more than half the surface. And the rear is entirely unseen... clever staging for the thoughtless dweebs.
Not so dumb, though, is it? It keeps the CIA from findng out exactly how much is intact. And how much osn't.
ZH quote back on 10/7 - eerie - ZH is so way ahead of the game
"Next up: "terrorists" intercept control of America's drone system. That may explain why authorities are mulling the consequences of a New York nuclear strike. News not at eleven."
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/did-iran-just-retaliate-stuxnet-computer-virus-infects-us-predator-drone-system
Assuming the softwre is intact is a mistake.
No it 's not. The mistake is in assuming that it isn't...
I cannot believe that these things don't have some kind of auto destruct for sensitive portions of the system. Or how about a timed locator beacon to guide a precision guided munition?
Getting a little ahead of ourselves, are we? The U.S. is now completely screwed over a drone? Srsly? You do realize this is a recon drone, right? It isn't even armed. It is cheaper, more flexible, and more disposable than sending in a manned plane, like a U2 or somesuch. If you look at the defense industry wordwide, EVERYODY is developing these things like they're iPods. Even Pakistan has their own inhouse models. The RQ is not that big of a deal, technology-wise. The fact it went down in Iran, that's the big deal.
Meanwhile, only the spooks on both sides know how exactly this went down. I'm rather doubtful Iran could take it over remotely without some serious outside assistance. Iran couldn't even do the propaganda right - 'shot down' instead of 'hacked'? Really? This smells like an engine failure with a controlled landing, or a Chicom hacking job.
yeah or some russians/chinese advisors trying their new EMP shit. just guessing.
it's expendable technology. otherwise this wouldn't be up there right now. it is probably a loss though, and i'm sure there's interest from 3rd parties.
Bottom line is... both in Iraq, Afghanistan and elsewhere, the US militairy is not supposed to make a swift decisive victory that ends the conflicts. Keeping the conflict going in perpetuity is way too profitable for the people in control of NATO and the US militairy. That was also the reason to let Osama bin Laden's gang escape twice during the first stages of the war. They are useful CIA assets in that they provide an "evil" adversary, whithout entagonising the chinese or russians (who both aren't too fond of fundamentalist religion freaks either). That the USA went broke on wars and handouts to the top 1% is by design. It's a big lever that transports wealth and power from civil society to a war machine. What's left is a mess, as anyone here can see. Ordo ab chao. I.o.w. presuming traditional victory over an enemy's forces is the end goal, is wrong.
Go wave some flags, suckers. We're all cannonfodder soon, if these clowns get their wish.
I am inclined towards the chinese hacking the drone.
After all, they have already hacked Ogolfer's teleprompter several times.
The Iranians are screwed as long as Federal Reserve Notes can pay for this technology. Once the dollar dies U.S. military dominance ends. Who will hang on longer - the Iranians or the dollar?
The dollar can remain irrational longer than Iran can remain solvent.
How do you know?
The dollar's been irrational since 1913. They [Bernie and the Gang] can string this out a long time, and they intend to make it last for years more.
I was wondering if they got their banners made at FastSigns.
I'm sure there is a handfull of engineers in Iran that could reverse engineer and understand that thing. The generals who get to show off their manly beards though, not so much.
1,000,000 Iranians died repelling the Isramerican aggression fronted by Sadaam Hussein during the 1980s war. That degree of nationalist dedication should be sufficient to close the Straits of Hormuz during the next Zionist war of aggression; hi-tech doesn't enter into it. Straits close, oil spikes to >$300/barrel, goodbye dollar.
..."How far is Iran from being able to do something like build that craft?"...
Do you mean build a craft like it, or do you mean deliver it gift wrapped to their main enemy just as tensions are peaking......???
Take a bow US Military.
wrongo - RQ-170, Lockeed Skunkworks and yeah, I am flat shocked the U.S. has not destroyed it. It is flat loaded with secrets. Indeed, the fact that it is still intact suggest something a bit odd - did the U.S. lose this plane on purpose?
Fucktards, they should not be touching that thing with their bare hands. The outer coating (as the F117a) contains cancer inducing chemicals.
At 1:17 you get to witness the iranian garlic death breath.
Maybe that's how they brought down that drone.
You know I wouldn't be too suprised if the Russians just hacked it and made it land. The Russians got a massive advantage in hacking due to the fact that opposing russian maffia was making rootkits due to the high level of maffia activity there. They got so good at it that they could program one rootkit to fight another on your computer and you wouldn't know it was there. One day you'd have the first set of problems and the POOF they would go away because you downloaded the oppositions anti virus, root kit ect. Our military realized that it needed to get its shit in order when they used their skills to attack georgia recently.
U mean S. Carolina.
Immutable state-of-the-art invincible drone law: What flies up can fly down.
Um, Ms Crabgrass, I know we havent been on the best of terms but do you think we can get our baseball back?
That's what the Germans said about America in 37. " Clever and good at making razor blades, but nothing at war."
Pretty much accurate at the beginning of the war, not so much at the end.
America was re-arming long before the J-boys tipped Herr Hitler to declare war.
Did they forget the whole WWI thing?
Seems you've never drank german Glühwein.
Patriotism? Is that suppose to make me feel all warm and fuzzy inside for my phantom tribe?
That's before Germany learned that strived for perfectionism and anal retentiveness loses to U.S. mass production, an ingenious Russian engineer working on a scorched-field budget figured out that angling the armor plating on a tank at a 45 degree angle more than doubles its ability to repel armor piercing projectiles, and that Mother Nature can lay to waste the best planning & equipment of men.
And such.
Yep, you'd also have some US Farm boy type that could outshoot your average German Alvin York style. That and they had no qualms about lashing together shit in the battlefield. Germans wouldn't field repair their stuff unless they got the replacement ball bearings massaged by Otto Von Krupp himself.
M1 Garand and BAR ruled the day amongst light infantry.
The only flaw of the Garand (clanking report on empty magazine) was turned into a tactical advantage on the fly by improvising GIs.
Fuck you for the Krupp comment.
WE got the ball bearings going prior to world war one and then sold off some machines to Germany to have them make good bearings.
Apparently we dedicated 1000 plane bomber missions to take the ball bearings off the earth pernamently and still planes kept getting produced.
If it is one thing the Germans understand is no matter how deep in it they get, they keep right on working to make best of it.
As far as the Drone is concerned we handed Iran a present and since the 117 loss in Bonsia, we can expect China and the like to swarm the Iranians to massage them into orgasm while they make off with the goods.
It is my hope that there is nothing inside the drone except an engine made in china and so forth.
TruthInSunshine
I'll be happy to be corrected, but didn't the Russians simply copy the angled armor technique to an entire tank (the T34) ?
I am sure I have seen pictures of sloping armor before, but not on an entire tank turret...
Kayman, you may very well be correct (that the Russians angled the armor at the most vulnerable points - especially the front and rear).
As an aside, KCLMO & Steelhead win some sort of prize, b/c late breaking news has it that anonymous U.S. sources are confirming this is indeed a RQ-170 drone and that this is a major issue for the boys at the Pentagon.
But who knows what the hell is the real story, as in all such matters as these.
Halfwit v. Ribbontrop said this. Goering replied: "we could do with some of those razor blades...".
Right tarsubil, just like the clownish Chinese subs which surface right in the middle of US carrier battle groups...theyve got nothing Im sure.
I hadn't heard about that. How's their russian carrier working out? Have they built a reliable fighter engine yet? I admittedly haven't followed it in a while.
It's ok. They have a good fighter and supposidely have deployed them. It will be a while before they build a true big deck. Maybe they learned to not use a full deck and just hammer and duct tape together something that works well for them.
Hm, check Su-30 MKI and Mig 29K . ( The best of 4th generation, by the estimation of RAF who flew it, without radar support ).
PAK-FA ( T-50 ), the 5th generation flies, but another 3 yrs, ( more like 5 ), till production.
Supposed to be equal to F-22, but 50 MM cheaper . ( F-22 indefinately downed ).
It's hard not to fall in love with Su-30MKI. It was 37 yrs. ago when I build F-14 from Revell Kit. Somehow the same feeling.
The Russians have built them... pretty.
I built a model of the US Navy Valkarye I think it was. It was such a Pig...
exactly...the dumb foreigners...they couldnt possiblly match wits we those brilliant americans...
precisely why the fucking cesspool known as the USA is on its last lap....HUBRIS
China is not all foreigners.
We won WWII simply because our planes were by far the sexiest things the world ever saw ! The Spitfire was good lookin' too ! You don't think that's important, my little Krautlich ? Monedas 2011 Full blooded German-Americans weren't allowed to fight against Germany ! Trivia Treats by Monedas 2011
When the U.S. Navy deploys a battle fleet on exercises, it takes the security of its aircraft carriers very seriously indeed.
At least a dozen warships provide a physical guard while the technical wizardry of the world's only military superpower offers an invisible shield to detect and deter any intruders.
That is the theory. Or, rather, was the theory.
American military chiefs have been left dumbstruck by an undetected Chinese submarine popping up at the heart of a recent Pacific exercise and close to the vast U.S.S. Kitty Hawk - a 1,000ft supercarrier with 4,500 personnel on board.
By the time it surfaced the 160ft Song Class diesel-electric attack submarine is understood to have sailed within viable range for launching torpedoes or missiles at the carrier.