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Iran Supreme Leader Khamenei Leads In Iran Parliamentary Election, As Iran Announces Huge Oil Field Discovery

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The results from Iran's parliamentary election, whose outcome will have virtually no impact on the country's foreign, nuclear or Iran policy, and thus change the country's course vis-a-vis Israel and the US, are in, and following a supposedly high turnout as big as 64% which critics have blasted as a sham (unlike American low turnouts which are 'pristine', yet where both "opponents" end up paid representatives of the banker class) has seen support for president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's party slide, at the expense of a surge in popularity for the ultra conservative Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei. Reuters summarizes the results as follows: "Interior Minister Mostafa Mohammad Najjar put the turnout at 64 percent after more than 26 million votes had been counted, telling state television the Iranian nation had disappointed its enemies by voting in such numbers. The figure was close to the 65 percent predicted for weeks by hardline conservative leaders and media. Najjar said 135 seats had been won outright so far, with 10 going to a run-off. Final results were not expected on Saturday. According to a Reuters tally of the results announced in 126 seats, 81 went to Khamenei supporters, 9 to Ahmadinejad's faction, 7 to reformists and 7 to independents, with the allegiance of the remaining winners unclear." However, as noted above, "the vote will have scant impact on Iran's foreign or nuclear policies, in which Khamenei already has the final say, but could strengthen the Supreme Leader's hand before a presidential vote next year. Ahmadinejad, 56, cannot run for a third term." Instead, it is all about internal politics and is a buildup to next year's presidential election in which Ahmadinejad can not run, thus opening the door for Khamenei to take all power. Needless to say, if the "western" world thinks the current conservative president is bad, his ultra-conservative replacement will hardly make things better.

A quick recap clip from Al Jazeera summarizing the facts:

Support for the president, accused of allowing out of control inflation, is sliding compared to the previous election:

Iran's Islamic clerical leadership is eager to restore the damage to its legitimacy caused by the violent crushing of eight months of street protests after President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad was re-elected in a 2009 vote his opponents said was rigged.

 

Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, who endorsed the 2009 result, has since turned sharply against Ahmadinejad. Some early results from Friday's vote suggested the divisive president's supporters were losing ground in the 290-seat parliament.

 

His sister, Parvin Ahmadinejad, failed to win a seat in their hometown of Garmsar, the semi-official Mehr news agency said. Elsewhere, Khamenei loyalists appeared to be doing well.

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No independent observers were on hand to monitor the voting or check the official turnout figures. An unelected Guardian Council, which vets all candidates, barred 35 sitting MPs from seeking re-election and nearly 2,000 other would-be candidates.

 

The vote took place without the two main opposition leaders. Mirhossein Mousavi and Mehdi Karoubi, who ran for president in 2009, have been under house arrest for more than a year.

Stratfor explains the key ideological differences between the two conservative camps:

Iran's conservatives can be roughly divided into two camps: those who believe the supreme leader has "faslol khatab," or final say in all matters, and those who do not. Ahmadinejad is leader of the latter camp, having used his two terms to establish the presidency as a position in competition with the supreme leader for executive authority.

 

Ahmadinejad initially had a good relationship with Khamenei and had his support during the contested 2009 presidential election. This began to deteriorate before the regime crushed protests by the Green Movement, with Ahmadinejad demonstrating that he would not quietly follow all Khamenei's mandates.

 

His independent streak first emerged when Khamenei ordered Ahmadinejad to dismiss his closest associate, Esfandiar Rahim Mashaei, from the post of first vice president shortly after Ahmadinejad's re-election in 2009. Ahmadinejad then appointed Mashaei as presidential chief of staff in a clear attempt to countermand the intent of Khamenei's order. This independence has grown more pronounced since that time, with Ahmadinejad dismissing former Foreign Minister Manouchehr Mottaki on Dec. 13, 2010, while Mottaki was on an official trip abroad, encouraging the resignation of several Cabinet members, and forcing the resignation of intelligence chief Heidar Moslehi on April 18, 2011, against the direct wishes of the supreme leader. The supreme leader refused Moslehi's resignation and ordered him to return to work, prompting Ahmadinejad to abstain from his official duties for 10 days in protest.

 

Ahmadinejad and his supporters present a serious threat to the current clerical regime and its key stakeholders and beneficiaries. A populist conservative who draws his support from the rural poor, Ahmadinejad has said power should be vested in the elected government, while the clerics should have a guidance role. This implicitly criticizes the Islamic republic's principle of Velayat-e-Faqih, or rule by Islamic jurists, on which the clerical elite stakes its legitimacy. (Explicitly challenging the principle would not be tolerated, especially from a sitting president.) The conflict stems from the contradiction in the institutional nature of the Islamic republic, being both a parliamentary democracy and a clerical theocracy headed by the supreme leader, who is not popularly elected. Khamenei and the clerical elite, along with their allies in the judiciary and the parliament, are hoping to use the elections to slow the momentum of this emerging class of non-clerical politicians and prevent the further erosion of their authority.

Implications:

Ahmadinejad's current term will end in 2013, and he will be ineligible to run for his third and final term until 2017. (Under Iranian law, an individual may run for three presidential terms but only two may be consecutive.) Khamenei's chances of having a pro-clerical presidential candidate win and potentially hold the seat for the next eight years will be much improved with Ahmadinejad unable to run himself. This is of great importance since the 72-year-old supreme leader's health is rumored to be declining. Ahmadinejad's goal is to elect a populist presidential candidate without much of his own power base, enabling Ahmadinejad to run again in 2017 as the populists' favored candidate. Regardless of whether Ahmadinejad's candidate wins, he will spend the next four years building a political movement that can carry him to a third term, though having an ally in the presidency would help this effort, as would taking a large share of the parliamentary seats up for election on March 2.

And while yesterday's vote is still merely a stepping stone to bigger things in the future, perhaps the most surprising news come out earlier today from Retuers, which stated that Iran has "discovered one of its biggest oil fields with high quality crude in a southern province, the semi-official Mehr news agency quoted an official as saying on Saturday."

The preliminary studies show enormous crude reserves in this oil field, which can be considered as one of Iran's biggest fields," Mahmoud Mohaddes, head of the exploration office at the state National Iranian Oil Company (NIOC) told Mehr.

 

Mohaddes gave no further details about the field but said it was located in the country's southern border region. Oil Ministry officials were not available to comment.

 

Iran is looking to discover 2.5 billion barrels of recoverable oil and 23 trillion cubic feet of gas in the course of the country's fifth five-year development programme (2010-2015) now under way.

Whether this is merely propaganda posturing, or if it is fact, and changes the balance of power dynamics of the region, is still early to say.

 

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Sat, 03/03/2012 - 13:35 | 2219757 Offtheradar
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Looks like the ace of spades

Sat, 03/03/2012 - 13:59 | 2219792 Atomizer
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March 20th Oil Bourse

 

Motörhead - Ace Of Spades

Sat, 03/03/2012 - 14:04 | 2219803 Hugh G Rection
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Beginning March 7th, Iran will feel the mighty saber of Zionist aggression.  We will celebrate Purim Day with the spilt blood of many Goy.

The Gentiles in America will fight for their Jewish Masters, or they will be suffer the consequences.

Long Live israel!

Sat, 03/03/2012 - 14:13 | 2219832 Elwood P Suggins
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If trashy Israel attacks Iran I hope the Iranians rip their guts out.  Jew blood everywhere!

Sat, 03/03/2012 - 17:09 | 2220216 trav7777
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2.5Bbbl???  That's fuckin tiny.  Maybe the production rate will be 2mbpd for 1000 days

Sun, 03/04/2012 - 13:20 | 2221828 Ahmeexnal
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No.

Maybe you should learn how to count.

Not everyone in the world considers a billion the same way you do.

To the US, one billion = 10^9 (i.e. one thousand million).

To most of the rest of the world, one billion = 10^12 (i.e. one million million) = 1 Trillion (in the US metric).

 

Sun, 03/04/2012 - 13:51 | 2221885 Flakmeister
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Do you have any idea how lame you sound?

Sat, 03/03/2012 - 17:36 | 2220281 cranky-old-geezer
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I'll go ya one better.  I hope Russia turns that miserable strip of desert to glass & ash.  Just freikin wipes Israhell off the planet.

Sat, 03/03/2012 - 18:27 | 2220361 Cast Iron Skillet
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I think a lot of the world's problems could be solved with a really big nuke on Jerusalem - one large enough to make a new deep-water Mediterranean port in its place - and a nuke of similar size on Mecca. The superstitious of all flavors might then realize that there is nothing magical about those places, that nothing spiritual is going to show up, that nobody is going to get beamed up in any kind of "Rapture", and that it might really be better if we people of the earth try to cooperate with one another in order to find rational solutions to the problems that face us.

Sat, 03/03/2012 - 20:30 | 2220573 trav7777
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yes, mass murder will cure everything!

Sat, 03/03/2012 - 21:22 | 2220633 AbruptlyKawaii
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fuk u asswipe fuk off and fuk u

Sun, 03/04/2012 - 01:53 | 2221112 Cast Iron Skillet
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It would be best to convince all the folks to leave the area before the operation is implemented.

Actually I don't have anything against the people there or the place itself. But the religious kooks that repeatedly bring war to the world really irritate me.

Sun, 03/04/2012 - 02:24 | 2221159 Milestones
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At 17:27-Skillet you left Rome and London off your list--how come?        Milestones

Sun, 03/04/2012 - 13:25 | 2221842 Ahmeexnal
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He is half catholic and half Church of England?

Sat, 03/03/2012 - 22:39 | 2220785 tarsubil
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Did you know that Julian tried to rebuild the Temple?

Speaking of the Temple, what if the Jews have secretly rebuilt it underground? 

Sun, 03/04/2012 - 01:50 | 2221107 Cast Iron Skillet
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does rebuilding the temple have some meaning somehow? Like possessing the One Ring that Rules them All in Lord of the Rings or something?

Sat, 03/03/2012 - 14:45 | 2219903 resurger
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Sat, 03/03/2012 - 15:59 | 2220060 SMG
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This is all orchestrated by the Luciferian Illuminati Oligarchy, who's real goal here is to gain even more power and depopulate the planet so the "useless eaters"  do not use up what they view as their resources.

They are the ones behind all this and they deserve to be punished for it, not Jewish people.

Sat, 03/03/2012 - 16:19 | 2220107 Spirit Of Truth
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The Luciferian "New World Order" conspirators are in the Kremlin mainly and are plotting their tyrannical notion of a worldwide 'kingdom of god', which of course makes the mullahs in Iran they brought to power special friends:

http://thespiritoftruth.blogspot.com/2011/01/historical-epiphany-russias...

Why ZH is reporting on these elections as if they were actually democratically elections, I have no idea?  It's all nonsensical theatre for public consumption.

spiritoftruth.org/iraniannuclearbomb.htm

"I consider it completely unimportant who in the party will vote, or how; but what is extraordinarily important is this — who will count the votes, and how." - Joseph Stalin

Sat, 03/03/2012 - 16:44 | 2220161 cranky-old-geezer
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It should be Spirit Of Bullshit

Sat, 03/03/2012 - 16:30 | 2220134 Hugh G Rection
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Yes, yes! Luciferian Illuminati Knights Templars Mysticism Globalist Royal Blood Drinking Vatican Masonic Oligarchy!  The Jew is a man of peace.  Israel is a Nation of peace.

 

Your STRATFOR check is in the mail.

Sat, 03/03/2012 - 15:44 | 2220024 CrashisOptimistic
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Some Iran oil facts.

Their largest 2 fields are Ahwaz and Marun.  They have 25 and 22 billion barrels recoverable, respectively.  There are more recently found fields but they are very heavy oil and hard to refine (not in demand) and I think only one was hyped slightly bigger than Ahwaz, but unconfirmed.  Their overall recoverable numbers are alleged by them to be 140 billion barrels.  70% of that is very heavy oil.  This is not light sweet Libya quality stuff.  Europe not buying it doesn't matter because they could not refine it anyway.  

The phrasing from this guy is "among the largest" so we'll presume that he doesn't have "the largest", and so we're probably in the 15-20 billion barrel range.

Fully developed, in about 7 years, a 20 billion barrel light sweet field will flow maybe 450K barrels/day.  A 20 billion barrel heavy oil field will flow maye 350K bpd.

Hardly a game changer.

Sat, 03/03/2012 - 15:56 | 2220054 PontifexMaximus
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Where did u get this info? Iran was for me til now one of the wild cards re proven reserves. I knew that quality wise , Libya is top, esp re sulfur. Not sure, whether Iran is moving ahead with refinery technology, where they are years behind.

Sat, 03/03/2012 - 18:00 | 2220322 CrashisOptimistic
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Pontifexdood, here's what you have to do.  

Develop an understanding of Original Oil In Place, then understand typical recovery rates (and don't imagine technology has a cure for this, particularly, the issue is geology, the pores are far apart and sometimes each holds only maybe 100 barrels, if you want it, you have to drill to each one) and then understand what a typical field of a typical recovery rate (35%) can produce per day.  

20 billion barrel fields do less than half a million bpd.  If you own it, you don't WANT to do more than 500K bpd.  If you did, you'd drain it too quickly.  500K is 30 years on 20 billion, because after about 20 years the pressure dies, and it gets much harder to get what's left.

Try to double to 1 million bpd and you're dead in 10 years, assuming the geology even allows it.  If you push production to 1 mbpd, you risk sub field water coning up and destroying your production altogether as it fills the pores you empty and drives your water cut to 99%.  There is no magic.  You can't say . . . 20 billion barrels?  Give me 5 million barrels/day for 10 years.  Hell, it would take you 20 years to build the pipeline architecture to support 5 mbpd. 

That's just the way it is.  And Iran has been pumping for 110 years.  OVER A CENTURY.  They peaked at 6.6 million bpd in 1976 and are at 4 million bpd now, way post Peak and falling as their old fields die.

 

 

Sat, 03/03/2012 - 21:08 | 2220621 boiltherich
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Who in the world would want oil that glows in the dark?

Sat, 03/03/2012 - 22:44 | 2220794 tarsubil
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Do you know any instances where people pumped much less than what is normal over a longer period of time (eg 100k bpd on a 30 billion barrel field)?

Sat, 03/03/2012 - 22:53 | 2220812 Flakmeister
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Doesn't happen... the market demands that you exploit the field as fast as possible (consistent with the attendant infrastructure)...It relates to how the stock market values oil companies...(in the old days some fields were damaged by abusive practices...)

The only fields that I am aware of that have not been pumped as hard as they could have been are the great Saudi fields in Ghawar... Even those were pushed very hard in the late '70s

Sat, 03/03/2012 - 23:32 | 2220879 Augustus
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One of my recollections is that the Iranian oil field geology is somewhat like the US Gulf of Mexico geology, without the current water coverage of the GoM.  There is evidently a very deep sedimentary basin with the same type of flowing salt bodies that have been found in the GoM.  However I could be confusing a memory of the Iraqi geology.  Both are inferred to have very large undeveloped reserves.

The Iranians can keep the oil and starve happily with it undeveloped.  The technology of the shale frac has increased world oil and gas reserves by multiples.  Developing production from it will take a few more years but will occur.  The study group in Poland has just announced that they have tested their zones and found no problems with using the technology there.  The govt. there has declared it a Great Economic Opportunity and a route to achieve independence from Russian supplies.

Sun, 03/04/2012 - 04:51 | 2221338 CrashisOptimistic
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The whole earth is not made of shale.

All oil fields are not layered shale.

Shale fracturing and horizontal drilling does not solve the emptiness of all capped and abandoned wells.  It's relevant only in a tiny minority of dead fields.  You can't walk into Oklahoma and tell them you are going to resurrect their oil fields with shale technology because their rock isn't amenable.  Most isn't.

You have to ignore hype.  The whole oil industry is built on buying a lease and persuading buyers it's more valuable now than when you bought it, and the latest scam in that regard is "we didn't have today's tech when I bought this.  Today's tech makes this lease worth 100X what I paid.  Yes, I'll take cash."

 

Sat, 03/03/2012 - 15:59 | 2220062 true brain
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If you look at hard numbers and study the peak oil phenomenon, you'll see that the situation is hopeless. Modern civilization will have to move away from oil or face catastrophy. No, I take it back. Modern civilization will face catastrophy, no more time to move away from oil. None of these small discoveries can make a dent in the big picture, or delay the consequences even by a month.

Sat, 03/03/2012 - 17:11 | 2220222 trav7777
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this is what the PO deniers don't get.  All the new discoveries DO NOT eliminate the lack of availability of growth in production rates.

We're ALREADY in the crisis, bud.  The next gear hits when exportable oil goes to zero, which it eventually will as a function of export land model.

Sat, 03/03/2012 - 23:37 | 2220894 Augustus
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Have you no knowledge of the increased NG producction rates in the US?  The same would happen with oil if the governments did not control the current substantial reserves.  Newly identified reserves are not as concentrated in current OPEC countries.  Once they recoginze the supply capability from those reserves, they will want to sell a whole lot now at a high price rather than much lower future prices in a market they do not control.

The more aware PO believers have now come to acknowledge that IF there is PO, then it will be at least another hundred years until it hits.

Sun, 03/04/2012 - 05:00 | 2221344 CrashisOptimistic
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Check out the new reserves numbers in the National Petroleum Reserve - Alaska, released about 18 mos ago.  Here's the link.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Petroleum_Reserve%E2%80%93Alaska

And the relevant quote:

An assessment by the United States Geological Survey (USGS) in 2010 estimated that the amount of oil yet to be discovered in the NPRA is only one-tenth of what was believed to be there in the previous assessment, completed in 2002.[2]

The new USGS estimate now says the NPRA contained approximately "896 million barrels of conventional, undiscovered oil".[2] The reason for the decrease is because of new exploratory drilling, which showed that many areas that were believed to hold oil actually hold natural gas.

This is a huge chunk of land west of ANWR.  If I had to bet on why this erasure of 8 billion barrels of reserves took place, I'd lay blame at the feet of earthquakes.  This is west of ANWR and closer to the fault lines.  It's 80 million years for earthquakes to crack caprock and that lets trapped oil dissociate and migrate away.  

Note that magical shale fracturing technology can't do anything about this.  It's not shale.  It's different geology.  There is no oil there because there is no oil there; not because technology failed.

 

 

 

 

Sat, 03/03/2012 - 13:45 | 2219778 kito
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now i see why the u.s. has held off on attacking iran.....let them develop their largest field...and then declare u.s. eminent domain.....ahh haaaa........

Sat, 03/03/2012 - 17:38 | 2220287 cranky-old-geezer
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Then China will declare America eminent domain :)

Sat, 03/03/2012 - 13:50 | 2219786 libertus
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Tyler:

I love your work, but please do not use Strator as a source. Those guys are scum and should all be arrested for violating numerous laws. Reading their e-mails shows that they are clowns driving around in a car calling themselves "experts." I think they are expurps.

Sat, 03/03/2012 - 14:14 | 2219834 AndTheRest
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They can stop using Stratfor when government intel agencies start publishing their analyses on the internet.

 

So never.

Sat, 03/03/2012 - 14:56 | 2219930 Benjamin Glutton
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http://www.nti.org/gmap/?country=iran&layers=biological,chemical,missile...

http://www.nti.org/country-profiles/iran/

http://www.nti.org/country-profiles/israel/

likely sites to be targeted including interesting overviews of both/all countries.

NO WAY Israel can pull this off on their own!!!! I stake my military reputation on it.lol

F-15's just ain't going to get the job done...no way no how. I assume Israel will not go nuclear.

 

 

 

Sat, 03/03/2012 - 16:01 | 2220069 rufusbird
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Thanks for posting this. That is one cool Map!

Sat, 03/03/2012 - 16:09 | 2220078 Ahmeexnal
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Wikileaks (a CIA fully owned subsidiary) confirms Israel already destroyed iRan's nuclear warmaggedon underground sites (including "nest of Allah").

http://www.prisonplanet.com/israel-kurdish-fighters-destroyed-iran-nucle...

Sat, 03/03/2012 - 17:25 | 2220243 Benjamin Glutton
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be that as it may sabers are still rattling. the economic attack continues.

 

I find it less than believable that nuclear weapons are the main issue. Maybe Bibi will say 'Temple' to Obama this week giving the US "no choice " but to join in the attack.

1973 from Wiki on Yom Kippur War.

During the night of October 8–9, an alarmed Dayan told Meir that "this is the end of the third temple."[242] He was warning of Israel's impending total defeat, but "Temple" was also the code word for nuclear weapons.[243] Dayan again raised the nuclear topic in a cabinet meeting, warning that the country was approaching a point of "last resort."[245] That night Meir authorized the assembly of thirteen 20-kiloton-of-TNT (84 TJ) tactical atomic weapons for Jericho missiles at Sdot Micha Airbase, and F-4 aircraft at Tel Nof Airbase, for use against Syrian and Egyptian targets.[243] They would be used if absolutely necessary to prevent total defeat, but the preparation was done in an easily detectable way, likely as a signal to the United States.

Just when I thought I was out...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPw-3e_pzqU

Sat, 03/03/2012 - 18:50 | 2220389 earleflorida
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F-22's and F-35's Moving Forward  [7/14/11]

http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/israel-plans-to-buy-over-100-f35s-02...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secondary_surveillance_radar

Noteworthy: Jordan [Jordan-Proper on the QT], the Saudi's, and Kuwait have given air space fly-over priviledge's to the U.S. - and that means Israel's jets will have friendly aircraft id signal transponder codes pre-installed 

jmo

Sat, 03/03/2012 - 23:40 | 2220898 Augustus
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How did you determine which of the "released" Stratfor e-mails were legitimate?

How long now has George Friedman been retired?

Sat, 03/03/2012 - 14:00 | 2219795 prains
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wonder where the no fly zone will be while the US attacks, can't bomb haliburton while they "customize" the pump heads

Sat, 03/03/2012 - 14:01 | 2219799 I am Jobe
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Stratfor - WTF they don;t even know who the intruders are in their own fucking severs and ports. Scum Bags with no fucking clue and whay in the fuck are they collecting info.

Sat, 03/03/2012 - 14:13 | 2219828 AndTheRest
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They may be scumbags but...

 

1. They provide information to people who can't get it anywhere else.  Show me this information, translated into English, anywhere else in open source.

 

2. Figuring out who hacked what is pretty much impossible unless you have extraordinary coverage of the internet to observe network traffic at as many points as possible.  There's probably only one group in the world with that capacity, and they aren't sharing it with some two bit operation like Stratfor.

 

Example: traffic tunneled from the hackers box, to a box in Brazil, to a box in China, to a box in Germany, to a box in India, to a box in Iowa, to a box in South Africa, to the target.  Encrypted at all points along the way except the last hop.  Good luck tracing that attack back to the hacker.

Sat, 03/03/2012 - 15:09 | 2219845 AbruptlyKawaii
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if stratfor is the only place you get this info then you are an idiot lazy momo douchebag saddam wmd tool, and no, go do your own fucking homework

Sat, 03/03/2012 - 14:19 | 2219852 I am Jobe
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Agreed. Heard of Secureworks, maybe Symmntec not doing what is needed plus the Network Admin should be looking at the ports and tracking the traffic. Automate and see the results.

 

So what do you think they are doing collecting daa. You make a valid point about providing the unhear dof news how about why are they collecting data, I guess Americans freely give out info or you are foreced to in the mae of National Security.

Sat, 03/03/2012 - 21:56 | 2220702 twohands
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Carriers (ATT, BT, VZ, others) could all accomplish this; its network layer visibility.

Sat, 03/03/2012 - 16:24 | 2220121 bugs_
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stratfor is learning that there is no such thing as bad publicity

Sat, 03/03/2012 - 14:04 | 2219804 Scalaris
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What's that smell?

-Exxon

Sat, 03/03/2012 - 14:07 | 2219808 Yen Cross
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 Iran and Venezuela, are " two peas in a pod". They can pump the mud, but they can't refine it!

Sat, 03/03/2012 - 17:14 | 2220227 trav7777
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incidentally, the only place on the planet that the mud Venezuela calls oil is on the Gulf Coast of the USA.  Chavez's talk is all bullshit until/unless the chinese build competitive refining capacity.  In any event, unless that is located in South America or they transit Colombia with a pipeline, that crude is vulnerable on the high seas.

Sat, 03/03/2012 - 17:26 | 2220257 Yen Cross
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It only took 9 junks to get an honest answer. +1 Trav.

Sat, 03/03/2012 - 18:05 | 2220333 CrashisOptimistic
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Keep in mind that one does not just wave a magical hand and say "build more refineries and we have more oil production".

You refine oil by heating it up.  You have to burn something to heat it up, usually nat gas.  The dirty little secret of the low price of nat gas is the closing of refineries nationwide.  Big hit on natural gas consumption.  If you close refineries, there's no point producing oil, even if you could.

Sat, 03/03/2012 - 18:44 | 2220382 Yen Cross
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Crash I appreciate your posts. Iran needs energy for economic output. They export 90 something % of their potential energy, and then buy the refined product back.

  Iran lacks the technology and resources to build refineries on a large scale. Iran has all the Nat Gas it needs in our lifetimes.

   The Embargo around Iran is based heavily on it's lack of ability to produce it's own "Feasable" energy". Hence the Nuclear Issue. Saudi Arabia isn't building clandestine bases in mountains! I appreciate your comments. +1

Sat, 03/03/2012 - 19:34 | 2220479 AbruptlyKawaii
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texas sweet north, i mean, alberta tar sands oil is only feasable because of us fracked gas, otherwise both would not be profitable, frack us gas, send it to alberta, extract alberta oil, send it to us to frack gas or export, nice racket eh?

Sat, 03/03/2012 - 21:33 | 2220651 CrashisOptimistic
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It's actually a bit more incestuous than even that.

Canada's eastern refineries can't handle Alberta oil.  So the oil flows to the US, the US refines it to gasoline and ships it back to Canada.

Sat, 03/03/2012 - 22:05 | 2220725 AbruptlyKawaii
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stoopid insane PROOF THAT SAPIENS DISPROVES DARWIN WE AS A SPEDCIES DISPROVE NATURA LSELECTION

Sat, 03/03/2012 - 23:46 | 2220913 Augustus
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Low NG prices make refineries MORE profitable.

Refineries are closing for the same reason as coal fired electric generation

Obama ordained it.

Look at some of the articles about the closing of the Hess refinery in the Carribean.  All about EPA nonsense.  Jobs lost, taxes lost, higher gasoline prices.

Sat, 03/03/2012 - 14:10 | 2219809 Problem Is
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"The preliminary studies show enormous crude reserves in this oil field, which can be considered as one of Iran's biggest fields," Mahmoud Mohaddes, head of the exploration office at the state National Iranian Oil Company (NIOC) told Mehr."

Hey Mahmoud
Why don't you just hang a giant "NATO Come Kick My Ass" sign on your country...

Sat, 03/03/2012 - 14:29 | 2219873 CompassionateFascist
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No, it's not about oil as such, and only secondarily about keeping Israel on the map...it's about the petroDOLLAR. All Iran has to do to avoid this war is announce: "nothing but dollars for our oil". Since they won't, and are backed by the BRICs, there will be War, probably the worst war since 1945. I hope Zbig is right about it being a Vast Catastrophe. I really do. It's the only way we are ever going to get rid of the ZOG and the reserve currency dollar that sustains it.  

Sat, 03/03/2012 - 14:12 | 2219813 AbruptlyKawaii
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stratfor?????????? really? #winning! lmao startfor....... i love how we're supposed to be here reading alt info yet we get reuters, aljazz/bbc,  bloomberg, ap and..........stratfor.........hahahahahahahahahahaahaaato eternity....

Sat, 03/03/2012 - 14:19 | 2219839 Atomizer
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Stratfor is trying to re-establish credibility.

 

http://pastebin.com/search?cx=partner-pub-4339714761096906%3A1qhz41g8k4m...

Don't kill the messenger. /sarc

Sat, 03/03/2012 - 15:14 | 2219969 AndTheRest
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Go back to 4 Chan and infowars kid.  You're not ready for the big leagues yet.

Sat, 03/03/2012 - 15:29 | 2220007 UpShotKnotHoleGrable
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@AndTheRest,

I can see that you are under the sad and deluded impression, that having come here from Yahoo and BI message boards just 7 weeks ago, you may have something interesting to say, but you don't.

 

Sat, 03/03/2012 - 15:43 | 2220032 AndTheRest
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"Herp, look at my low ID # on Slashdot, obviously I are superior - derp."

 

Thanks for the snobbish commentary.  I cycle accounts often.  What I really want is a pool of 10 accounts that are used by maybe 50 different individuals to defeat linguistic analysis.

Sat, 03/03/2012 - 15:51 | 2220045 gangland
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so you're a troll, looking to be an even bigger troll?

Sat, 03/03/2012 - 15:58 | 2220061 AndTheRest
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Maybe the biggest troll ever?   Gotta aim high.

Sat, 03/03/2012 - 16:14 | 2220098 AbruptlyKawaii
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on their worst days 4chan and prison planet are more relevent than stratfor, #Fail dude, why don't you "cycle" through some of your other zero hedge names and give yourself some up green arrows

Sat, 03/03/2012 - 16:21 | 2220110 AndTheRest
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Only fags like you would post simultaneously under multiple accounts and manipulate the utterly meaningless arrow system.  I'm sure you're one of the fags asking for censorship on Zero Hedge too.  So you can down arrow anyone you disagree with into obscurity.

 

Too bad, so sad.  Deal with it.

Sat, 03/03/2012 - 16:37 | 2220147 AbruptlyKawaii
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"Only fags like you would post simultaneously under multiple accounts and manipulate the utterly meaningless arrow system."

LAMO!

U mad?

I'll take as a compliment coming from the slurrping cum queen who in 2 posts above just addmitted to "cycling" multiple accounts!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHHAAHAAAHAHAHAHAAAHAHAHHAA

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAhto eternity... what a douchebag....what a mensa, Doh!

Sat, 03/03/2012 - 16:39 | 2220154 AndTheRest
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I guess I better down arrow you and your other 3 accounts, that'll teach you a lesson!

Sat, 03/03/2012 - 16:15 | 2220090 slewie the pi-rat
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L0L!!!

here are 2 of your 13 posts over your 3 weeks, in their entirety:

  1. Fuck the system.
  2. No doubt ready to back up the truck for the Facebook IPO?

i feel kinda sorry for you, toy-boy; how long have been like this?

Sat, 03/03/2012 - 16:34 | 2220145 AndTheRest
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It is quite the burden, as someone aware of the depth and breadth of the surveillance based American police state, to have to change online identities so frequently.  But I'm not here to make friends, and I really don't give a fuck what you think.

 

You keep blabbering on from your home ISP account for the government's data mining systems to add to your profile.  All the while thinking your pseudonym will protect you, "slewie the pi-rat."  I'll keep doing what I do.

Sat, 03/03/2012 - 22:48 | 2220803 Bringin It
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ATR - I you are not changing your IP#, you realling aren't hiding your identity from the gov.

Sat, 03/03/2012 - 23:42 | 2220899 i-dog
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Who gives a fuck what the government collects?! If, at some point, they want to silence you, then what they don't have, they'll make up.

Only by speaking up can you let others know that they are not alone and that the resistance is growing.

Sun, 03/04/2012 - 02:10 | 2221136 Bringin It
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i-dog - speaking to the choir.
Which is OK.
I was just pointing out the falicy of hiding from the nsa behind multiple ID's. It doesn't work that wat.

Sun, 03/04/2012 - 02:49 | 2221192 i-dog
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I agree with you, BI. Cringing in fear behind multiple identities, when all the while the Man has you nailed though IPs linked to facetwit, gmail, bank (and various other) accounts, is as weak as it gets. They are only hiding from themselves. LOL.

The Founding Fathers would be absolutely contemptuous of these spineless wimps.

Keep on bringin' it.

Sat, 03/03/2012 - 16:17 | 2220106 UpShotKnotHoleGrable
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@AndTheRest

 

Talk about not ready for the big leagues.

I'm not sure you grasp the finer points of Zero Hedge, I don't know, maybe the subtleties elude you, but this is Fight Club. 

You either bring it or you hit the bricks.

Sat, 03/03/2012 - 16:35 | 2220146 AndTheRest
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God damn, how many accounts does this nigger have?

Sat, 03/03/2012 - 17:35 | 2220269 AbruptlyKawaii
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Sat, 03/03/2012 - 14:43 | 2220032 AndTheRest

 

"...I cycle accounts often.  What I really want is a pool of 10 accounts..."

 

by your own addmission, only racist, bigoted, low-life-morons like you who expose themselves need multiple accounts to "cycle" through, when inevitably your utter idiocy shines through for all of ZH to behold

Sat, 03/03/2012 - 17:39 | 2220289 AndTheRest
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Keep talking asshole :).  Pissants like you are hardly my concern.

Sat, 03/03/2012 - 17:41 | 2220293 TruthInSunshine
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Hello, Socket Puppet I.D. No. 0183479-ZD8.

Welcome to Fight Club!

Sat, 03/03/2012 - 19:41 | 2220300 AbruptlyKawaii
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riiiiight that's why you keep coming back for more lil bitch c i can do this all day but.....U BORIN ME MAN!

Sat, 03/03/2012 - 14:12 | 2219825 Problem Is
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"unlike American low turnouts which are 'pristine', yet where both "opponents" end up paid representatives of the banker class"

BTW Tyler: We Amerikans don't have to show up at the polls... Haven't you heard? Diebold does the voting for you regardless of your limited bankster stooge selection...

Sat, 03/03/2012 - 14:27 | 2219872 I am Jobe
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"It's not the people who vote that count. It's the people who count the votes." (Josef Stalin)

Go Diebold Go Diebold. Amerikan's just lost. Yeah your fucking vote counts. LOL

Sat, 03/03/2012 - 15:16 | 2219974 AndTheRest
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Voting grants implied consent to whatever action the elected leaders eventually take.  Not voting is the only way to withhold your consent and call into question the legitimacy of the government that supposedly represents your interests.

Sat, 03/03/2012 - 17:31 | 2220270 Dugald
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Just imagine......an election, and nobody turned up....pure fantasy of course, but  such thoughts keep me sane.

OT. In the spook world there is an old joke....

Some times we tell them things, and some times they tell us things, but you didn't hear it from us or them....right?

Sat, 03/03/2012 - 22:53 | 2220813 Bringin It
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Re. What if no one shows up??

Want matter.  Diebold will still be there ... counting ... something ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZws98jw67g

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/09/28/diebold_electronic_vote_tampering/

Sat, 03/03/2012 - 14:30 | 2219841 GeneMarchbanks
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Pepe will have something interesting to say about all of this.

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/NC02Ak01.html

Sat, 03/03/2012 - 14:18 | 2219847 Flakmeister
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Wow, 2.5 billion barrels is now considered huge....

Reminds me of the old joke about why women make such lousy carpenters....

Sat, 03/03/2012 - 14:37 | 2219894 Hulk
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The world burns through 2.5 billion barrels in about a month...

Sat, 03/03/2012 - 14:56 | 2219929 Cdad
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Ummm...a person might want to ratchet down his estimation of just how much oil the world uses...in a day, a month, whatever.

The utter collapse in US gasoline demand continues unabated:

http://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=PET&s=A103600001&f=M

Sat, 03/03/2012 - 15:10 | 2219960 Hulk
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Despite US demand down, World demand is up this year by about .8mb/d...

Sat, 03/03/2012 - 23:00 | 2220825 Bringin It
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Howdy Hulk - I'm with you on this one.

2.5Bb / 85Mbpd = 30 days.

It's not that complicated.  Yes there is declining US demand, but there is rising world demand.

Sat, 03/03/2012 - 18:50 | 2220390 Flakmeister
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Digging deeper into this plot, there is something wrong...

It is not what you think it is... and you are being fooled...

Look at the units...40 million gallons a day ---> ~ 1 million barrels per day

The US uses about ~8 million bbpd....

Try this:

http://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=PET&s=MGFUPUS1&f=M

this corresponds to 250 million barells per month...

Those interested should root around here

http://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/pet_cons_psup_dc_nus_mbbl_m.htm

Edit:

I missed the more convential units on the  pull down, here is gasoline production 

http://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=PET&s=MGFUPUS2&f=M

and more importantly

Suppy and Disposition

http://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/PET_SUM_SND_A_EPM0F_MBBLPD_M_CUR.htm

Sat, 03/03/2012 - 19:43 | 2220500 AbruptlyKawaii
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conclusion pls and thank you but pls gimme gimme tell me sumthing cause i do infact feel like i am missing soome thng here,, but what??

Sat, 03/03/2012 - 20:10 | 2220540 Flakmeister
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The graph I questioned is being used to trumpet the utter collapse in gasoline demand in the US...

It is down, but hardly collapsing...

Just some perspective....

One of the real reasons for the post was also to encourage people to investigate claims for themselves and to make themselves selfaware of energy issues...

Sun, 03/04/2012 - 01:43 | 2221097 Jim_Rockford
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It all makes sense if you understand there were 2 wellheads.  The dead guy in the hot tub tried to tell you. 

2 WELLS... 2 WELLHEADS

Sat, 03/03/2012 - 14:19 | 2219853 Dan The Man
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right at election time too. they may hate amerika but the democracy smells tne same.

Sat, 03/03/2012 - 14:26 | 2219868 57-71
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Southern border area eh?

Either the Pakis or Afghanis might be able to also drill into this field.

Wouldn't that set the region on its ass!

Sat, 03/03/2012 - 14:30 | 2219878 Yen Cross
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 Iranian Oil Stats. & Supply Routes. For the Junkster.

Sat, 03/03/2012 - 14:31 | 2219879 Atomizer
Sat, 03/03/2012 - 14:37 | 2219893 grunk
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Iran to the West: We didn't just find oil; we found the good shit. Enjoy those Chevy Volts, Joe Momma.

Sat, 03/03/2012 - 14:46 | 2219907 Atomizer
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You better be quite or I'll be forced to use voice suppression to stiffle your opposition. /sarc

LRAD

Sat, 03/03/2012 - 14:52 | 2219917 the grateful un...
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The results from ( Iran's parliamentary) America's Democratic elections, whose outcome will have virtually no impact on the country's foreign, nuclear or (Iran) Economic policy

Sat, 03/03/2012 - 14:57 | 2219922 Jack Burton
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Big new Iranian field? All the more reason to liberate Iran. Operation Iranian Freedom anyone?  Of course America is prepared to spend trillions and lose thousands of soldiers, as in Iraq, in order to spread freedom.

Seriously, anyone who buys into that proposition is seriously challanged in mental capacity. Nations don't risk fiscal implosion to spread freedom.

The real reason behind America's recent wars are complex, what with no threat like communism offered in the post war era. If you cast about for reasons for the vast wealth and lives thrown into the middle east meat grinder, a logical conclusion would be oil and Israel. If you listen to congressional speeches from time to time, the truth comes out as these folks spout on about Israel and America's oil needs. Seriously, the reasons are right in front of our eyes, but the corporate mdeia chooses to ignore or cover up those reasons. I for one found invading Iraq based on liars appearing at the UN and a claim of Liberation to be questionable at best. But USA media bought it ALL hook line and sinker.

Expect nothing less on the Iranian question.

Also, go on and keep poking Russia in the eye every chance you get, some day you will wake up to a vast network of S-300 and S-400 mobile anti aircraft missile networks in Iran, backed by the latest passive AA detection systems and short range missile systems to protect the S-300 and S-400 mobiles. Add to that an array of Russian surface to surface and anti shipping missiles.  At some point Russia will draw a line in the sand and say "No more liberations on our borders".

Arrogance comes before the fall, and since 2001, America has had arrogance aplenty. Never having to face a modern weapons system since over North Vietnam in the early 70's has given US military a bad case of overconfidence.

Sat, 03/03/2012 - 15:01 | 2219936 AbruptlyKawaii
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9-11 was the apotheosis of the united states

Pax americana lasted not 100 years, but just over a decade, from 1990 to 2001

 

Sat, 03/03/2012 - 15:50 | 2220040 NuYawkFrankie
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PAX Americana: 1990-2001

POX Americana: 2001-201?

Sat, 03/03/2012 - 17:26 | 2220255 Ahmeexnal
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You ignorant sad fuck.

US planes carpeted Belgrade and other parts of Yugoslavia with depleted uranium in 1999.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1999_NATO_bombing_of_Yugoslavia

And what about Desert Storm 1.0beta?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desert_storm

The endless list goes on....

Sat, 03/03/2012 - 19:12 | 2220444 AbruptlyKawaii
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"PAX" in the context of geopolitics/international relations/history meaning "peace" only in denoting power unipolarity or total hegemony, not literally meaning peace for exactly a hundred years.  Even Rome was only relatively war free during Pax Romana.

It was only Pax Americana during the 1990s - after the fall of the soviets and before 9-11- because the US was completely and totally unopposed both physically and ideologically, you know "the end of history" and all that. 

9-11 ended pax americana while at the same time it apotheosizes her. Remember the good will from the world, the millions just in Tehran marching for us here; all down hill after that, whatever "Pax" there was ended on that day, both physically and ideologically.

Sat, 03/03/2012 - 15:14 | 2219967 the grateful un...
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Iraq was a made for TV movie starring the Shrub as Mission Accomplished. Now Al Jazeera, and anyone with a smartphone can put together some images. I wonder if they pay those people royalties or sub contractor fees, or if those guys in the helicopters are really there to control what images the photographer can and can't record in a warzone? (thinking of that wikileaks footage and the two reuters journalists), and honestly drone attacks are more humane, or maybe those guys in the control bunker, including the President, are high fiving each other each time they blow up a suspected terrorist half way around the world.

boy if you had some footage of that it would send Obama packing in two seconds, and I am sure it exists. I knew this man who was a combat photographer in Nam, and he used to sell footage to the MSM. How the MSM learned to subcontract out their image gathering, and thus control the war, from the point of view of a mass audience,  is a book that should be written. Nam was of course the steep part of the learning curve, too many negative images, mostly delivered by our own people who were trying to give the staff an educational tool.

the only real education they needed was figuring out what to show the people back home watching TV. Nam was a mess, but so was Libya, that kid in the Yankees cap popping Khaddafi in the head. too much like the real mean streets of America. that image was a bad as the one of the Vietcong suspect being shot in the head, but guess what? those images no longer make the rounds, they are no longer burned into our memory. they get scubbed, like everything google touches, and someone powerful doesn't want the image to get out. did you see the coffin photo of Whitney Houston? not on TV, you had to go to supermarket and look at the mag while you were waiting in line.the MSM has completely sanatized war and everything unpleasant.

have a nice google day.

 

 

 

 

Sat, 03/03/2012 - 15:18 | 2219979 AndTheRest
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Duh, it was always blood for oil.  That and to establish a permanent military base of operations in that region in order to impose American hegemony.

 

Those megabases in Iraq will still be open and manned by U.S. military personnel in 2050.

Sat, 03/03/2012 - 21:46 | 2220685 Zappalives
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Yes...........Global petroUSdollars is all that matters in this world.

 

The US military is the enforcer.

 

I....for one....will enjoy it while I can.

 

No....I dont believe it is a just or fair system but...in the main I have benifitted greatly.

 

In the meantime.....prepare for the future.

 

Sat, 03/03/2012 - 14:59 | 2219932 matsoR
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The results from Iran's parliamentary election, whose outcome will have virtually no impact on the country's foreign, nuclear or Iran policy.

This is not entirely true, if ahmadinejad were to have absolute control of Iran the most likely thing to happen would be a collaboration with America. The only reason that Ahmadinejad has this anti-America view is to appease the ayatollah's.

Sat, 03/03/2012 - 15:03 | 2219943 Yen Cross
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He's 56, and a lame (duck)aka goat. Better to be put out to pasture than end up in one of his Wax houses.

Sat, 03/03/2012 - 17:37 | 2220286 Ahmeexnal
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Apronmaidenjad is a CIA tool. Just like the Shah.
Irony of it all, the Shah's son will be iRan's next ruler:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reza_Pahlavi

Sat, 03/03/2012 - 17:44 | 2220297 AbruptlyKawaii
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over my dead body

Sun, 03/04/2012 - 01:48 | 2221105 Jim_Rockford
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Lighten up Francis.

Sat, 03/03/2012 - 15:04 | 2219948 AbruptlyKawaii
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lemme guess, you got that gem from stratfor right? or was that your own penchant for genius-ness shinning through

Sat, 03/03/2012 - 16:50 | 2220175 AndTheRest
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It's easy to destroy and tear things down.  What of value do you create?  What do you produce?

 

Stratfor provides a service for which there is a market.  You seem excessively butthurt that they weren't wiped out by the dumping of their email spools.

Sat, 03/03/2012 - 17:25 | 2220246 AbruptlyKawaii
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 tearing down light weight idiots like you, who contribute nothing and troll with tired racist and sexual insults is easy as pie

Sat, 03/03/2012 - 15:08 | 2219956 loveyajimbo
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Hard to vote for the opposition when the elections are rigged and they chop the balls off any opposition supporters... the old bone-smoker has to croak soon... he reminds me a little of an older version of Santorum...

Sat, 03/03/2012 - 15:56 | 2220053 dwdollar
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Rigged elections? Hmm... Now where does that sound familiar...

Sun, 03/04/2012 - 00:41 | 2221005 Money 4 Nothing
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So.. you have heard of Diebold voting machines?

Sat, 03/03/2012 - 16:17 | 2219965 slewie the pi-rat
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i did not know this: Ahmadinejad, 56, cannot run for a third term

i don't mind him or feel threatened by iran under him as president

he's kept a cool head thru some hard times, imo, and the first time he sailed one of those dreadful "warships" thru the suez during "arabSpring", i thought it was fabulous!

remember how they were having rampant inflation and it looked like the "economic end" over the dollar/petro, and all the "brilliant analyses" about the certainty of the upcoming war?  that was about 10 weeks ago, maybe less, offhand

we certainly get a huge prop-wash around iran

personally, i wish them the all the very best!

Sat, 03/03/2012 - 16:30 | 2220129 hangemhigh
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TO: Slewie

"we certainly get a huge prop-wash around iran.....personally, i wish them the all the very best!"

yo, slewie, dogg:

if someone were to take the time to do a simple visual 'look-see test' of the populations of, say, afpakitsan, saudia arabia, kuwait, iraq, etc and then look at iran, you would have to come to the conclusion that, in terms of dress and external culture, the iranians look and act more like us than any of those other guys.

are we missing something here.....??? 

 

 

Sat, 03/03/2012 - 18:01 | 2220324 slewie the pi-rat
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hey, h_high!

we're all nearly identical, when born

and, hopefully, much loved

but we hafta grow "up" and learn the family, religious, local, national, international, educational, professional, and military stuff

we classify and learn by "differences which make a difference" (bateson?) and sometimes "different" isn't as acceptable as "normal"

"normal" is big-time boss.  anyone approaching "real" from there is "an enemy of the people" (plato, ibsen, luke) except in cultures which accept shamans, healers, philosophers, jesters, but politically, some of these types are not overly welcome at times

so, after we reach adulthood, we're all pretty much criminally insane, imo, many completely fuking outa control, some completely repressed, some this, some that

then, we get married!

ya can't make this shit up, BiCheZ!

Sat, 03/03/2012 - 18:53 | 2220403 Hulk
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Funny thing is, Slewie the pi-rat, as we get older, I mean OLDER, we start to look alike again! Go figure...

Sat, 03/03/2012 - 19:02 | 2220417 Yen Cross
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 Hulk ! You're putting the cart in front of the horse.  You have a whole life in front of you. You my friend, are just ahead of the intellectual curve. " Reality Ranch"!

Sat, 03/03/2012 - 19:45 | 2220502 AbruptlyKawaii
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i have a crush on slewie....and i admit i've had a crush on the damn hulk to for a while...

Sun, 03/04/2012 - 01:06 | 2220572 hangemhigh
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TO: AbruptlyKawaii

"i have a crush on slewie....and i admit i've had a crush on the damn hulk to for a while..."

hey, AK.....if you develop a crush on hmh you gotta promise you'll always have a full clip and remember to bring your own rope,

Sun, 03/04/2012 - 00:34 | 2220997 slewie the pi-rat
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how fondly i remember first welcoming you to the site and hitting on yer gorgeous young avatar!

Sun, 03/04/2012 - 01:03 | 2221039 hangemhigh
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TO: Slewie

how fondly i remember first welcoming you to the site and hitting on yer gorgeous young avatar!

when i was up there on the mothership with them party hard aliens they was doing them hot young avatars big time......................

Sun, 03/04/2012 - 10:48 | 2221560 Hulk
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I'm blushing, and its starting to look a lot like Christmas !!!

Sun, 03/04/2012 - 01:05 | 2220565 hangemhigh
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TO:  Slewie

"so, after we reach adulthood, we're all pretty much criminally insane, imo, many completely fuking outa control, some completely repressed, some this, some that.   then, we get married!  ya can't make this shit up, BiCheZ!"

dude, that is some hard hitting, home grown, post-doctoral pi-rat analysis. 

'scuze my while i go put on some rubber gloves and then come back to finish probing the subtle differences between different, normal, real.......and getting married!  

 sure glad i didn't say nothing about that time them interstellar aliens abducted me.... 

 good to hear from you slewie...........................  

Sat, 03/03/2012 - 15:14 | 2219968 KickIce
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A large oil well, what a wonderful gift for the 12th Iman, er Obama, in an election year.

Sat, 03/03/2012 - 15:24 | 2219989 disabledvet
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hold your horses people! holllllldddd your horses! (and i mean that literally now...we're gonna have to relearn those skills now 'merica!) this just in:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=K2VwpkdUw_s

Sat, 03/03/2012 - 15:26 | 2219997 Atomizer
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Just print this image off and grab a Black Crayola "Glitter" Crayon. Stay within the lines.

http://www.iranchamber.com/history/photo_albums/revolution79_album1/revolution79_album1.php

Sat, 03/03/2012 - 15:49 | 2220041 Yen Cross
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 This is pretty cool. You guys/gals, should have some fun. If anything, you will refresh your BRILLIANT minds.

Sat, 03/03/2012 - 16:28 | 2220127 ian807
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So, a huge oil find is now 3.3 months worth of suppy for the USA? That's not happy news.

Sat, 03/03/2012 - 16:53 | 2220178 max2205
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Peak Iran has peaked

Sat, 03/03/2012 - 17:06 | 2220208 nah
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Israel delivers ultimatum to Obama on Iran's nuclear plans

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iran/9121433/Israel...

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nyetanyahoo tell the President of the United States of America YO!, stick your dick in a meat grinder or we will stick our dick in a meat grinder first

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and as nyetanyahooz outro... REMEMBER THE HOLOCOST lol

Sat, 03/03/2012 - 17:15 | 2220230 nah
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boy o boy more politics and oil

.

just what the world needs

Sat, 03/03/2012 - 17:37 | 2220282 rsnoble
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Only the USA can have rigged elections.

Sat, 03/03/2012 - 19:07 | 2220432 Eurogroup
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Brilliant that bloke from Londen in burning down any mediawise idea of democracy....

And as the anchor ironically stated at the end " Russia goes to the polls to elect their next president".

This will be a mediawise turnout in support of the honourable mister Vladimir Putin.

 

Sat, 03/03/2012 - 21:03 | 2220616 dvp
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Fascinating is all the military talk in commentary to this article, and little political talk.  Invariably, it seems, when the U.S. and/or Israel are/is about to carry out an act of military aggression, all focus on who has the biggest gun, pun intended for female readers.  Little attention is paid to the law of unforseen circumstances.

Saudi Arabia is a good place to begin when considering unforseen circumstances.  With a now Shiite Iraq to the north, its oil fields in a majority Shiia populated area, Bahrain with a 75% viciously subjugated Shiia population, and Hizb' allah a major force in southern Lebanaon, not only are the Saudi's terrified the U.S. has laid the groundwork for a new Persian empire by invading Iraq, an attack on Iran may unleash enraged Shiias throughout the region.

Keep in mind as well, the last time Israel tangled with Hizb' allah, the Israelis lost 10% of their beloved and "much feared" Mirkaava tank force.  Additionally, with much of the U.S. supply route passing through Russia, support for the invasion of Afghanistan may suffer seriously.  Add on Pakistani collusion with Iran because of anger with NATO, and another supply problem into Afghanistan rears its head.  Toss in China and whatever mischief they can instigate, since the Chinese are assisting in building a gas pipeline to Iran.

Additionally, who'n the hell knows if the Straights of Hormuz can be kept swept of mines.  Uncertain even if it can, oil shippers are not unlikely to use the threat to escalate oil prices.  Oh' Bummer could lose the election if this happens, and the EU has got to tank, given the EU financial situation.  Additionally, there is good evidence of strong public opposition to a war with Iran among the American public.  Assisting Israel in such a war, therefore, is unlikely to be taken positively by the American public come election time.

In short, an attack on Iran is insane.  However, Israel and the U.S. have shown themselves capable of stupidity, if not insanity.

Sun, 03/04/2012 - 06:19 | 2220662 Bringin It
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Was potkin azarmehr beaten with the ugly stick or what??

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