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Iranian Clerics Call For Attacks And Suicide Bombings On Global Saudi Interests
While it is unclear if the news reported by Shia-News, and amplified by Bahrain News, is in retaliation for the recent deterioration in Iran-US relations following an allegation that Iran sought to assassinate diplomats and blow up embassies in the US using Mexican hitmen, or if this is what led to it, it appears that Iran is playing hard ball. As Bahrain News reports, referencing a new posting in Shia-News, "The Iranian leaders, furious over the Saudi intervention in Bahrain and what they call crimes against the Shiites of that country, have openly created centers to recruit volunteers for suicide bombings against Saudi Arabia’s interests worldwide. Several grand ayatollahs in Iran have issued a fatwa for Muslims to come to the aid of their Shiite brothers in Bahrain, who they claim are suffering horrific crimes from their government in collaboration with the Saudi armed forces. They further emphasized that the people of Bahrain have every right to demand freedom and their fair share from the state. Shia-News, a site associated with Ayatollah Mesbah Yazdi (a hard-line Shiite Twelver and an influential figure in the suppression of Iranians during their uprising to protest the fraudulent presidential election of 2009), is registering volunteers to participate in suicide bombings against Saudi interests around the world. Hundreds have already registered. Reports from inside Iran indicate that an alert has gone out to the Revolutionary Guards Quds forces throughout the world to prepare for attacks on Saudi establishments."
The original referenece is the following (from Shia News)
The translated text of "Shia-News" Web Site is as below:
In The Name of the Lord of Shohada and Siddiqin
When the Holly Prophet (saww) said: "I listen and lounge Rjla Ynady or Llmslymn Yjbh Bmslm Flys" (If somebody calls for help and a Muslim hear him and do not help, he is not a Muslim), he was looking at the whole world of the humanity, not just where he lived. He didn't mean a Muslim is one who just say I am a Muslim, pray five times a day or go to Mecca to perform Hajj. If we consider that the Holly Prophet (saww) is innocent and sinless and never talk nonsense (it is what all Muslim believe in), so we must come to see it is the will of Allah for all Muslims not to be apathetic to what is happening to the people who asked for help and must help them in all conditions and with all the available sources.
To make it short, it is time to show the supporters of international terrorism, whose hands are colored by the blood of innocents, specially the Shias, that they can't do whatever they desire and there are some fearless youth who don't care what is fear.
"Shia News" has the honor of registering the brave youth and freedom seekers of the world who have the desire to help the oppressed people of Bahrain. The youth by the discretion of Grand Ayatollahs and authorities give a lesson to the aggressors to be record in the history.
For now we are looking to find additional information and confirmation on what could be an escalation to the worst US-Iranian relations in years.
In the meantime, the distinguished president continues on his rhetoric quest, saying Iran will face the toughest possible sanctions:
President Barack Obama warned Iran on Thursday it would face the toughest possible sanctions for an alleged plot to kill the Saudi ambassador to Washington, as officials eyed action against its central bank.
Saudi Arabia on Thursday accused Iran of fomenting instability but pledged a "measured response" over the alleged plot that has heightened tensions between OPEC's two top oil producers.
Saudi Foreign Minister Prince Saud al-Faisal said, on a visit to Austria, that the evidence showed "Iran is responsible" for the alleged plot and said Tehran had tried to "meddle" in the affairs of Arab states before.
In Washington, Obama told a news conference that the United States would not take any options off the table in dealing with Iran, a phrase U.S. officials regularly use toward Tehran that is diplomatic code for the possibility of military action.
"This is part of a pattern of dangerous and reckless behavior by the Iranian government," Obama said in his first public comments on the affair.
U.S. authorities on Tuesday said they had broken up a plot by two men linked to Iran's security agencies to assassinate Saudi Ambassador Adel al-Jubeir. One was arrested last month while the other was believed to be in Iran.
Iran called the accusations a fabrication designed to hurt its relations with its neighbors.
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Let them eat their own.
wtf.
you do realize a Sunni/Shia global war will draw in the developed countries, right? There's a huge diaspora of both sect in Europe. And if hardline conflct trap moderates in it, it'll be a huge internal problem for France/UK/Germany
Europe already has a huge problem. Maybe this will prompt them to start addressing it. Or maybe another round of riots would help.
Crusade?
If suicide bombing was such a great idea, the clerics would do it themselves.
Glass parking lot?
x
How long before this guy gets yanked off of FOX? It's not right to talk about Iranian terror plot disinformation.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfsWIoO2CPc&feature=player_embedded
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http://www.examiner.com/conservative-in-national/breaking-new-evidence-show-hillary-a-mastermind-behind-gunwalker?CID=examiner_alerts_article
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http://blog.chron.com/txpotomac/2011/10/darrell-issa-subpoenas-eric-holder-for-fast-and-furious-communications/
Time will tell.
Whoops, more people calling bullshit (politely). Leverett is former Bush Admin. official :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJlvcZ47lMo
Mann Leverett was Director for Iran, Afghanistan and Persian Gulf Affairs at the National Security Council in the Bush administration, served as Middle East expert on the Secretary of State’s Policy Planning Staff, and Political Advisor for Middle East, Central Asian and African issues at the U.S. Mission to the United Nations.
“Ms. Leverett has published extensively on Iran as well as on other Middle Eastern, Central and South Asian, and Russian issues. She has spoken about U.S.-Iranian relations at Harvard, MIT, the National Defense University, NYU, the Norwegian Institute for International Affairs, and major research centers in China,” her bio states.
Get all the gas, gold, guns and grub while you can....
www.infowars.com/sources-us-gives-israel-green-light-for-iran-strike/
BOHICA!
back in the 80s it was "Visit Lebanon, help a syrian meet allah" and "I just stepped in some shiite"
now it will be: "shiite, meet fan"
this all reeks of a staged conflict. iRan is afterall another fuckahfeller puppet.
seems like the same power elite who financed the austrian fuhrer are now betting the farm on the persian to finish up what they have been trying to do for thousands of years.
Thanks for the excellent link, Pinto.
The video has been removed. Is there a mirror site somewhere?
AND The FEAR MONGERING CONTINUES. Tyler stop allowing this kinda Drums for war on this site. These are the very same DUMBASSeSS that got us the Iraq war. Wheres them WMD's Fellas.
Im sure alot is lost in translation.
Obama, an extension of the Neocon foreign invasion policy.
Don't believe me?
www.youtube.com/watch?v=TY2DKzastu8
Explain how a recording in 2007 of General Wesley Clark (ret) was telling everyone that we were going to invade 5 countries in the Mid east. LIBYA for example. DID ANY OF YOU, think that we were going into Libya in 2007? Proves my point. Watch the clip. Might change your outlook on the future.
Sheep might start believing after seeing that clip.
FYI, 20+ months if Afghanistan, and 9 months in Iraq, ironically, on chemical ALI's head quaters. I didn't find WMD's;)
I call bullshit on this whole story. It doesn't pass the "stupid test".
I won't believe it until I see an Iranian TV video of the Ayatollah calling the fatwah, and introduced by Tehran's standard crew of TV journalists. Until then, I'm going to file this under CIA disinformation campaign #5000.
In addition to which: our ZOG has been running terrorist ops against Iran for the past several years. From western Afghanistan, which borders on Baluchistan - Iran's easternmost province - CIA and local operatives regularly infiltrate, blow stuff up, assassinate officials, and stoke local secessionist movement. So, while I am certain that the Iranian used car dealer in Texas and his fake-Zeta US provocateur are a standard false flag, what goes around does eventually come around.
+666
Seriously worth 8 min.
Theyre too lazy, they would have to put down the opium hooka and leave their drugged out herim and do something with their lives.
Finally!
Muslims attacking the source: Saudi royalty who only care about oil wealth for their own profit and keeping it away from all other Muslims.
Stop blaming Israel or US. Just attack the source. The Saudis. Then the Bushes will lose power, and Israel will be useless to US.
Too simplistic. Probably because your viewing through the US view point.
Thats OK, lets keep it simple.
Saudi/Sunni v Iran/Shite
Pick a side. (pretty much have already)
Let the chips fall where they may, come in afterward and clean up (financially).
I wish W would have done that instead of this 'spreading democracy' shit.
capital idea, old son!
1) Sell cheap guns to all
2) sell better guns to one side first, then the other
3) PROFITS!
Mo money mo money
Dolla dolla holla
word.
the saudi royalty and our royalty have worked together for years to screw each of their own common folk. Like us, the standard of living for the normal Saudi has fallen dramatically. Like the banker - US govt relationship,, they have cornered themselves into a corrupt interdependence which will only end in hunger, anger, and bloodshed. That said, I don't see how this will relieve their anger toward the US Govt. Seems like the ongoing "terrorism" suits both players for a different purpose. It gives desperately needed pressure relief for the angry saudi and it gives a both real and fabricated boogeyman to help steer US policy and empire.
US controlled Saudi. Saudis were getting rich off of oil and was thinking about leaving petrodollar, so US let Iran and the neighbors have an "arab spring". You see saudis, you need US. So buy more F35s from Lockheed and give US cheaper oil or else Iran is going to overthrow your kingdom.
Dumb arabs. Divided and conquered.
Hmmm. Not bad thinking there, sir.
Ok, except the Iranians are not Arabs.
I think he was referring to the Arab Spring countries vs Saudi Arabia, ie, we foment revolution in countries where we either don't care particularly (Tunisia, Egypt) or it would be useful (Libya) so as to put the shits up Saudi Arabia with fears of similar revolutions and an attack by 'big bad' Iran.
agree with the logic but the arab world has figured most of that out as well. Still doesn't change the fact that both kingdoms are running out of schemes to deceive their own as the underlying resource dries up and dehydrates the world debt economy and that the common folk are the last on either's priority list
Cleric, great name for hateful war mongers.
Bush, Obama, Democrats, Republicans, zionists, neo-cons. All just another name for hateful war monger.
Zenbones.... just another name for useful idiot.
I won't argue and say I'm not an idiot. But I would like to know how you came to the conclusion that I am a useful idiot.
It's because you provide a 'useful' target for neo-con Israel-firsters like GeeI'mAPeaBrain.
My fault for not putting the "chosen" people first. I guess I'll remain the fool on the hill.
Not nearly. I'll call it "follow local laws and customs, or leave."
Try living by typical US or UK customs in most of the middle east and see how many minutes you can go before being arrested.
If only that worked here Mr Rockatansky.
This is beyond sensationalist. Clerics in muslim countries spew all sorts of stupid shit every day of the week. Keep moving, nothing to see.
As for our suspect and the supposed mastermind behind this plot: http://www.mysanantonio.com/default/article/Terror-suspect-painted-as-inept-2215035.php
Remember this story from july 2011............Isreal likely to bomb Iran in sept...............
http://www.jpost.com/Defense/Article.aspx?id=229605
Hell, I'll One up you on that.
WE HAD A presidential candidate singing at a town hall meeting, BOMB BOMB BOMB, BoMB BOMB IRAN.
Forgot who. RINO John MCCAIN.
FU MC CAIN, and the media who propped him up and did it on purpose so they can have Obama wash the decks with him.
Martha! Where is my sword and Buckler? we're off again......
now who could possibly benefit from such a fight... that's a toughie.
The ultimate fight club?
More like The Ultimate Fatwa Club.
All the virgins in heaven.
I'm OK with this, I'm really OK with this situation.
Royals for lunch, anyone?
And that latest conspiracy theory from the Holder/Mueller Comedy Hour:
? $100 million in wire transfers
? SAR reports are generated for anything $10,000 and over, they are aware of that
? That's not the usual way they transfer money
? Far too much for such a small operation anyway
? Flaky, flaky, the guy the feebs picked up just doesn't wash, and they would resort to utilizing and paying Christians, a definite Shia no-no.
Just doesn't add up, even though Eric Holder, defender of those corps which hire assassins (Chiquita, ExxonMobil, in South America and West Africa) should be highly experienced with the employing of assasins.
I'm OK with this, I'm really OK with this situation.
Royals for lunch, anyone?
And that latest conspiracy theory from the Holder/Mueller Comedy Hour:
? $100 million in wire transfers
? SAR reports are generated for anything $10,000 and over, they are aware of that
? That's not the usual way they transfer money
? Far too much for such a small operation anyway
? Flaky, flaky, the guy the feebs picked up just doesn't wash, and they would resort to utilizing and paying Christians, a definite Shia no-no.
Just doesn't add up, even though Eric Holder, defender of those corps which hire assassins (Chiquita, ExxonMobil, in South America and West Africa) should be highly experienced with the employing of assasins.
All the virgins in heaven that look like Helen Thomas.
There, fixed it for you.
Regards,
Cooter
your wife lives that long, she too will look like that.
don't hate the messenger.
All your virgins are belong to us!
Do you have any idea how old that bunch of virgins are?
ummm, isn't that the plan? deceive, divide, and conquer (we pay so our poor can take their resources to benefit the few)!
When there is no other conventional solution...look for the unconventional solution, in this case war (over there, of course).
WWIII, let's get ready to rumble.
The markets are rallying. War is in the air. BUy, BUY, BUY!!!!! 2 to 1 odds on a positive finish on the Dow and S&P???? Well with all the good news we got today???
They should not be in Europe and if they start acting up, kick them out. Multiculturalism, for which I used to be a strong supporter, has not worked. And, mostly because of the fucked up Shiates who refuse to act like normal people, refuse to respect their women, refuse to respect their kids, refuse to respect OTHER cultures. Well, fuck em, the Shiates (not the peaceful Sunnis) should be thrown out of Europe. There, solved it.
Sunnis are just as bad.
Well..., screw em all if they can't take a joke!
they are screwing themselves!
"Multiculturalism, for which I used to be a strong supporter..." LOL LOL LOL
It's not a sunni/shia war, the saudi royal family is hated by most sunnis.
that's because they are not really even Muslim. a reporter got beheaded a few years back in SA for digging into the history of the royal family... what truth would be so dangerous to require beheading to keep it hidden? you have to wonder.
The House of Saud must be Israeli.
Actually dude, I think that is plausable.
Jews had SEVERAL PHAROS of Egypt, they had kept their lineage a secret, but none the less, it was like 5 or so.
No. If the muslims try it here, they will get a spanking
Dorm Room,
it'll be a huge internal problem for France/UK/Germany
(sorry bout it,but)
Wouldn't have been if they had not allowed so many in.
You reap what you sow.
"you do realize a Sunni/Shia global war will draw in the developed countries, right?"
Wrong. Iran and Iraq fought for years, without involving anyone else. The diaspora is a diaspora for a reason.
You forget or misperceive the risks here,
1. The Iran v Iraq battles were almost all north of the Persian Gulf, mostly on land, but even then the Gulf got sewn with dozens of sea mines, and the US Navy actually had to resort to tanker convoys with destroyer escorts to get the oil tankers through the free-floating sea mines.
2. The US was happy to see both states weaken and severely damage each other.
3. But in this current case, the Saudis certainly will get direct US backing, and the Iranians will release (by air, ship, sub and fishing boat), literally tens of thousands of advanced and extremely nasty modern sea mines, many of them stealthy, many of them semi-active, and some of them actually mobile and powered.
4. Plus hundreds of highly mobile antiship-missile launchers, on sea, air, and especially on land.
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In other words the oil more or less stops flowing immediately ... for months ... if not years.
So every country on earth will instantly get involved in that fight, and Iran has of course fully anticipated that foreseeable development (for about 30 years or so), and naturally have planned in-depth for that potential eventuality (especially since 2001, when declared axis of evil), to make the danger of attacking Iran so great, that up until now the White House was never been game to push it into open and large-scale warfare.
If Washington does push that far there will be NO LIMITATION to the weapons they will (and must) use, to try to bring it to an 'end' fast ... you know ... mission accomplished ... it just had to be done! ... Civilization itself was at stake! ... yada yada yada.
Iran naturally expects all that as well in a genuine strategic war aftermath, and they have prepared to destroy everything, including the western economies, if it ever comes to this.
I have no doubt they can and will do that, with conventional weapons alone, if pushed into a startegic war that's instigated by pure falsehood lies and MSM propaganda (if that is what's occurring here).
Once you see 5 or 6 supertankers sunk within 24 hours, and the narrows of the gulf turn completely black with heavy oil you'll see what I mean. In fact, don't be too surprised if the Iranians sink a tanker with a sea mine in the next few days, simply to remind everyone what's at stake.
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U.S. NAVAL MINE WARFARE STRATEGY: ANALYSIS OF THE WAY AHEAD
07 April 2003
"General Douglas MacArthur’s bold decision to conduct an amphibious landing at Inchon to cut off North Korean forces besieging Pusan involved an element of luck. The North Koreans miscalculated the range of tide in the assault channel, enabling U.S. destroyers to site and destroy most of the mines prior to the invasion. Three hundred Russian influence mines delivered to the North Koreans lacked harnesses and were not deployed in time for the invasion. The Inchon landings could have been much more difficult if these mines were in place prior to the invasion.
The Navy’s luck however ran out and it suffered an embarrassing setback in 1950 during General MacArthur’s planned combined land and amphibious attack on Wonsan. Landings were delayed for one week while a marginally equipped and unprepared minesweeping force attempted to clear massive minefields. Rear Admiral Allan Smith, the commander of the amphibious task force, summed up the Navy’s humiliation as follows:
"The Navy able to sink an enemy fleet, to defeat aircraft and submarines, to do precision bombing, rocket attack, and gunnery, to support troops ashore and blockade, met a massive 3,000 mine field laid off Wonsan by the Soviet naval experts … The strongest Navy in the world had to remain in the Sea of Japan while a few minesweepers struggled to clear Wonsan."
The Navy’s top leaders also took notice, summarized by then Chief of Naval Operations Admiral Forrest Sherman’s candid remarks:
"When you can’t go where you want to, when you want to, you haven’t got command of the sea. And command of the sea is a rock-bottom foundation of all of our war plans. We’ve been plenty submarine-conscious and air conscious. Now we’re going to start getting mine-conscious --- beginning last week."
From 1950 to 1953 mines accounted for nearly 70 percent of U.S. and allied ship losses and casualties, and minesweeping personnel while making up only 2 percent of U.S. naval forces in Korea suffered more than 20 percent of the Navy’s losses.
http://www.dtic.mil/cgi-bin/GetTRDoc?Location=U2&doc=GetTRDoc.pdf&AD=ADA...
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And those mines were literally pre WW1 technology sea mines that were barely hidden. You mostly won't even detect a modern mine, that was designed to not be found by divers or sonar. To make it very plain, these are the underwater equivalent of giant IEDs. They're cheap and also VERY numerous, they're extremely difficult to detect and extremely dangerous to remove. Plus they are extremely effective at denying civil access and a follow up attack is most assured to recur ... potentially for years to come. They can be disguised to look like a lump of mud, or a clump of seaweed, or as part of a rocky substrate. They can be set to activate and deactivate autonomously. Some can even awaken to an acoustic signature and self-navigate to attack a specific ship type (say a class of mine hunters or destroyers) under their own battery or gas propulsion system. The Persian gulf is very shallow, almost everywhere - perfect for massive fields of sea mines.
It doesn't even need to be true, diasporas just need to think that it is true.
Look at it this way, the last time an Ayatollah said something, Britain saw book burnings in the street, bombings and a Japanese translator got killed ... all over a supposed "fatwa about "blasphemy" involving Salman Rushdie.
The joke of it all is that blasphemy in Islamic law is very difficult to prove, requires citation and has to follow a particular format. In the Rushdie case, there was no legal basis for such a charge at all. You can't blaspheme against P.Mohammed because ... errrr ... he is not a divine entity and to suggest so is actually ... erm ... blasphemy.
Instead, the real basis for the Iranian condemnation was that Rushdie was an "infidel", and the "fatwa" wasn't actually a fatwa at all. Instead, it was a "hukm", a judgment that has no legal authority and is not binding on all Muslims.
So the Ayatollah just basically said Rushdie was an infidel, and loads of idiots, who don't know know their own religious law, started trying to kill Japanese, Norwegian, and Italian translators, and bomb Libertys and book stores.
This is why this story is so problematic . . . though the Saudi angle might temper it. The Saudis have a lot of power over British Muslim disaporas because they pump so much money into mosques and schools.
To be blunt, diasporic Muslims, particularly in Pakistanis in Britain, are being seriously played by global political players in the ME and Gulf, and it is their own lack of knowledge about their own religion that makes them blind to it.
I thought Nobama was going to meet with Iran's leadership, chit chat, make it all lovey dovey,
Idiots !
well, if drug cartels and discheveled salesmen won't work, i guess you gotta crowd source it.
fadgadget
Even Obama CIA shill Juan Cole is baffled by the ineptitude of this specific setup
http://www.juancole.com/2011/10/wagging-the-dog-with-irans-maxwell-smart...
Wagging the Dog with Iran’s Maxwell SmartI personally do not understand how the corporate media in the US can report the following things about Manssor Arbabsiar and then go on to repeat with a straight face the US government charges that he was part of a high-level Iranian government assassination plot.
It seems pretty obvious that Arbabsiar is very possibly clinically insane.
Here are the top 10 reasons that he cannot be Iran’s answer to 007:
10. Arbabsiar was known in Corpus Christi, Texas, “for being almost comically absent-minded”
9. Possibly as a result of a knife attack in 1982, he suffered from bad short-term memory
8. He was always losing his cell phone
7. He was always misplacing his keys
6. He was always forgetting his briefcase and documents in stores
5. He “was just not organized,” a former business partner remarked
4. As part owner of a used car dealership, he was always losing title deeds to the vehicles
3. Arbabsiar, far from a fundamentalist Shiite Muslim, may have been an alcoholic; his nickname is “Jack” because of his fondness for Jack Daniels whiskey
2. Arbabsiar used to not only drink to excess, but also used pot and went with prostitutes. He once talked loudly in a restaurant about going back to Iran, where he could have an Iranian girl for only $50. He was rude and was thrown out of some establishments.
1. All of his businesses failed one after another
The downward trajectory of Arbabsiar’s life, with his recent loss of his mortgage, all his businesses, and his second wife, along with his obvious cognitive defect, suggests to me that he may have been descending into madness.
I hypothesized yesterday that Arbabsiar and his cousin Gholam Shakuri might have been part of an Iranian drug gang. But after these details have emerged about the former, I don’t think he could even have done that. Indeed, I have now come to view the entire story as a fantasy.
That a monumental screw-up like Arbabsiar could have thought he was a government secret agent is perfectly plausible. I’m sure he thought all kinds of things. But that he was actually one is simply not believable.
OK, Qasim Soleimani, the head of the Qods Brigade special operation forces of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps, may not be a nice man. But he is such a competent man that US officials in Iraq widely believed that he repeatedly outmaneuvered and defeated them there.
The allegation that Soleimani was running a hard-drinking incompetent with no memory and no sense of organization like Arbabsiar on the most delicate and dangerous terrorist mission ever attempted by the Islamic Republic of Iran is falling down funny.
Moreover, there is every reason to think, as Jeffrey Toobin suggests is a possibility, that Arbab was entrapped into this plan by a criminal drug runner in the pay of the US government, who suggested most of the key details to Arbabsiar in the first place. If the latter was as mentally disturbed as the WaPo report makes him sound, he may have been particularly suggestible and therefore an excellent subject for entrapment.
There is no connection to Iran here. Arbabsiar had $100,000 wired from a third country to what he thought was the Mexican drug gangster’s account. The money did not come directly from Iran. Even if it originated there, there is no reason to think it was government funds. Arbabsiar was himself worth $2 million in Iran; for all we know, as he got lost in his fantasy land, he began being willing to spend his Kermanshah inheritance on the crazy scheme.
The DOJ complaint says that Arbabsiar boasted that his cousin (Gholam Shakuri) was a “general” in Iran but did plainsclothes work abroad and “had been on CNN.”
Since two out of three of these allegations are obvious falsehoods, why should we believe anything else Arbabsiar said about his cousin? Note that it is the speculation of the DOJ that Arbabsiar’s description of his cousin suggests that Shakuri is a member of the Iranian Revolutionary Guards Corps. He is not so identified by Arbabsiar, who simply says he is a general who travels in civilian clothes. There is no such general.
Since Arbabsiar clearly does not have a firm grasp on reality, to indict the IRGC with these rambling and preposterous claims would be highly unwise.
I am frankly shocked that Eric Holder should have brought us this steaming crock, which is now being used to make policy at the highest levels. That a Mexican former drug runner being paid by the US taxpayers might have thought he could advance his career by playing mind games with a somewhat crazy Iranian expatriate is no surprise. That you could put fantastic schemes in Arbabsiar’s mind if you worked at it seems obvious. That anyone in the DOJ or the US foreign policy establishment would take all this seriously is not plausible. I conclude that they are being dishonest, and that this is Obama’s turn to wag the dog as he faces defeat at Romney’s well-manicured hands next year this time.
( So Romney is the chosen one?)
And when they took out that Saudi ambassador, they would have wasted probably forty or more K Street lobbyists (a definite super-plus!!!) along with him in that restaurant. (was the food really that bad?)
"( So Romney is the chosen one?)"
Since he was in tight with Bain, and Bain is the present owner of the JPMorgan, Goldman Sachs, Barclays, Deutsche Bank et al.-financed Total Information Awareness Network (Regulatory DataCorp's G.R.I.D.), I'd suspect so.....
It's an interesting experience, being aware of RDC, yet hearing the constant refrain of "bankers have nothing to do with war and terrorism and stuff".
Anybody ever notice the common theme...
" A lone, crazy guy", brainwashed as to how important his 'mission' is...
Hey, watch that crazy talk there, or a lone gunman will get you.....
OK lets Do IT!!!
Yeah!! I say we pack military bombers to the gills with Greek bonds and drop them relentlessly on...oh, wait...Greek bonds don't fall, scratch that.
The only terrorists are governments. It's the only entity you're likely to be terrorized by.
REALLY! The only terrorists? There are a lot of dead civilians out there you just pissed on their graves.
Bones: They're dead, Jim... stop being so emotional.
Capt. Kirk: Right! Phasers on stun! Shoot to kill!
Capt. Harris: Scotty! For the record, it's my call! Dump everything you've got left on my pos!
Bones & Kirk: NO! FUUUUUUUUU!
gvts have killed a million times more "civilians" than any terrorist mastermind.
Looking at the odds I will take my chances that some whacked out nutjob lights his jock on fire over a fukin drone attack from Obomber.
gvts and there looney tunes supporters piss on the graves everyday,everyhour and I am sure YOU cheer them on.
and for less legitimate reasons (see current wars 1,2 & 3). Many terrorists are responding to imperial forces. (See Star Wars) Their methods may be worthy of criticism but their motivations are an nteresting issue. Governments motivations are usually power and resource.
1. Self classified W.A.S.P. Somewhat socialized, but unlikely to participate in organized religion. Most likely > 35 yrs old.
2. Married. likely 1-3 children. Employed, but with ample discretionary time.
3. Resides in rural area in the US with low population density. Likely a single family residence on a lot > 0.5ac. Likely outside city limits.
4. Owns registered sporting firearms and light stock of ammunition. Unlikely to own military grade or illegal firearms.
5. Does not travel internationally. Rarely if ever travels by commercial airlines. Likely resides >100mi from major airport. Driver's license but no passport.
6. Low on the socioeconomic scale, 50/50 chance of any education above HS. Low probability of degree of any sort. Little if any savings or discretionary funds. Likely a small retirement fund with employer and banks at a small bank or credit union.
7. Conspiratorial, angry and bored but likely unsophisticated and insecure. Likely has an extended footprint across WWW and does not employ sophisticated cloaking. Unlikely to be user of social networking. Likely has satellite TV but majority of day to day news comes from the internet.
8. Likely observes laws and would not stand out to friends and co-workers. No felony record, neat lawn, clean car. Strong political views but likely not registered to vote.
You and the 500k-1.2M people just like you are perfectly safe.
Are these specs for your ideal partner or are you profiling FMB?
This was likely cut and pasted stgraight from a DHS profile of 'likely domestic terrorists'.
Naaah, he works for one of those data brokerage firms like Acxiom or ChoicePoint.
FMB - I would completely agree if in addition to governments you added corporations and organized religion. Granted it's nearly impossible to tell where one leaves off and the other begins, but religions were terrorizing people long before there were governments or corporations. So I would have to give #1 terrorist status to religion. Probably responsible for more suffering and deaths of more people in the course of history than any other kind of organization.
Blah, blah, blah ... One thing I can tell you is that every Persian I have known has had a heck of an ego issue... they just can't let it go.
They take the bait every time.
Persians also like their BMWs white...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWev6AvRUb0
Your comment made me think... I've never met a persian male, unless you consider a dark skinned paki a persian... Man, could that guy write code!
I have 'met' a couple of persian females. Delicious.
I highly recommend one the next time your at the cat house.
so the iranians are calling for attacks on usa/cia puppet regime saudi arabia? interesting.
Yes, the Shiates are proving they are innocent of any terrorist plots by immediately planning terrorist plots. Eventually, the Shiates will have to be dealt with in the Middle East. I say exit America, enter Saudi Arabia...
Persia was a great nation....it doesnt exist anymore. Now, you have Shiate madmen who think their leaders are the living God who cant wait to blow themselves up so they can get virgins in heaven.
i think that you have to take this press clip with a large grain shaker of salt. can't trust anything you read out there.
Thanks, I needed that!
aka.....Shiite Hitting The Fan?
Its not that easy finding a virgin
America was a great nation......it doesnt' exist anymore. Now, you have shitforbrains madmen who think their leaders are the Godly and can't wait to put themselves out there to be blown up so they can spread freedom and democracy in middle east.
Iran war here it comes....there goes your tax dollars for your schools and hospitals.
"we're going to take out seven countries in five years, starting with Iraq (DONE), and then Syria (WORKING), Lebanon, Libya (DONE), Somalia, Sudan and, finishing off, Iran (COMING SOON)."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RC1Mepk_Sw
I do not deny the paralells you illustrate in the first paragraph. I doubt our government has a plan that lasts more than 7 days, let alone the five year conspiracy you put in your last paragraph. If Cheney and Rumsfeld were still running things, maybe, they were evil motherfuckers.....with a mission. Current administration more like apologetic three stoges.
"I doubt our government has a plan that lasts more than 7 days,.."
I love these typical douchebagger comments, Legal Eagle.
Let's assume for a moment you're neither a troll nor a paid troll (N.A.M., Financial Services Roundtable, etc.) and that you truly are that ignorant.
That you are completely unaware that while the names change at the top (the usual selected sock puppets) the people occupying each administration stay quite similar, with a few older types leaving for good, replaced by young bloods.
Let's assume you've never noticed that neocon Linda Chavez was first appointed by Jimmy Carter to his administration, stayed on with Reagan, and Bush #2 tried to have her reappointed (she couldn't pass confirmation: too many subminimum wage undocumented worker employees), and Elliot Abrams the same, although he was reappointed by Bush #2.
And that you've never noticed all the others; how up until recently, Stephen Friedman shows up in just about every administration, and on EVERY intelligence oversight committee and panel.
How C. Fred Bergsten (Peterson Institute, former Treasury guy) is always in some position on every administration (and made a fortune as counterparty to those swaps triggered by Lehman's and Bear Stearns takedown).
And on and on.....and somehow you remain grossly ignorant of these facts? You can't handle facts or you simply are one of those zero information doods???
You might want to finally begin paying attention, assuming you are actually a sentient creature and not yet another chatbot.....
Ahhh, that is why stocks are going green. WAR!
noooooo!!!!! not the gold atm machines!!!!!!! pleeeeaseee noooooo!!!!!!!
cui bono: it's still the only question that matters.
this smells like bullshit.
Iran denies the assassination attempts vehemently, and now that the world is starting to ask real questions about whether Iranian elite intelligence agents, who have been extremely competent in the past, would try to pull off such a ridiculous and amateurish plot, but now suddenly there are Iranian religious leaders calling for similar attacks.
I generally try not to call false flag, but this just doesn't seem right.
it stinks like cia/mossad bullshit for sure. but man americans will lap it without a second thought.
pretext for war with Iran for not trading oil under dollars.
same story with Iraq folks. load up on military industrial complex stocks.
it just does not make any sense whatsoever. if someone would take so much as one minute to think about it and examine the story they would see how completely laughable it is. yet most would rather not think...they are happy with believing what they are told by the idiot box.
it's shameful and sad.
Appears thr war drums are being exercised again...
(Modern version..)
http://www.prisonplanet.com/sources-us-gives-israel-green-light-for-iran-strike.html
It's 'cause they allowed their women to start driving.....I'm sure that's it????????
Who are the buyers?
it's all bush's fault, pass the lobster.
at least someone is hiring
yeah, that sector is booming.
How is this for Irony.
It's booming because of lot's of dying, which is happening because of lot's of booming.
Kinetic Action, FTL!
ORI
The Perversion of Language
Thank you for sucking the life out of an otherwise brilliant pun.
You lost me.
What was the middle part again?
If America wants another war and they have enough dumb-ass people willing to fight it, then I say go for it. More sheeple in the grinder means more resources for us. I don't pay taxes, so I couldn't give a rat's ass.
check any of your bills or receipts.. see any tax?? shit head..
shhh....that's how republicans practice social darwinism. If you are stupid enough to be a soldier, you are to be eliminated before being able to reproduce. That's why they pick them young.
What's the death count from wars started by the two fucked up parties? No idea, but most of them, and the deadliest, were started by the leftist wing of the republicrat machine - wilson, fdr, (truman nukes kids), johnson. And worldwide, the left just grinds them by the millions. I see you have a raging hard on for the GOP - they're largely contemptible, but try to look past that to the real power. They want you focused on their proxies, and it's working with you, big time.
nope, not working on me pal.
I'm all for redneck low IQ no culture dumbass Americans dying off so that they have less power on my taxes going into the pockets of Dick Cheney. At least they won't be voting for Ripoffblican party anymore so that military-industrial complex executives who get 90% of revenue from US government (SOCIALISM) all in the name of patriotism and freedom bullshit won't have any more dumb citizens voting against their own interest by pulling all other middle class americans down.
Republicans have shown the true colors (all except Ron Paul) that they live off of government and your taxes just like democrats.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGl8IE1sqh4
You really need to see someone for help with that derangement there buddy. You are going off the deep end. Those two parties are the same, and somebody killed by a war during Bush or Reagan is no different than someone killed by a war during Obama or Clinton.
By the way, the progressive hero of your party of choice, [the dummycrat wing of the statist party] William Jennings Bryant, was the champion of anti-Darwinism. You sure you want to line up with that bunch, the party of Geo Wallace and Jim Crow laws? Are you an anti-science racist by any chance?
The redneck comments, low IQ etc, are usually comments by some 90 pound basement dwelling punk who can't venture out in the street for fear of his lunch money being stolen.
Or is it just as simple as you are just plain stupid?
The strange thing is... he does sometimes talk a lot of sense.
Everyone pays the inflation tax.
Not the elites who own assets. Inflation tax is only for 99% working class where your 3% raise is outpaced by 6% real inflation.
Speak softly, all of those recently returned soldiers with urban combat/survival skills will inherit the earth, if an EMP of whatever sort occurs or something similarly catastrophic.
Good, solid Americans with discipline and many with faith, we could do worse for starting over.
(And I don't know why the Iranians are beating around the bush. Just get the bomb and detonate it in the Saudi Oil Fields. Voila! They will all get to see the Mahdi, every last incinerated one of them).
Faith? Faith in what, exactly?
I am in total agreement with you on that one, and it's great not paying taxes, unlike all the other usefull idiots.
Thanks. One gets cast aside for telling the truth, even on Zerohedge. Still, the people here are the nearest to my strange mind I have ever found.
What will this do to the US "gray market" cell phone business?
Why did we ever go into Iraq, Afghanistan and Libya ... let alone these guys will take care of themselves.
Because we were attacked by Saudis on 9/11, that's why.
So Dick Cheney, Richard Perle, Paul Wolfowitz, and the rest of the terrorist lunatics that belong(ed) to PNAC are Saudis.
I did not know that. (Said in my best Johnny Carson voice)
Mr. Pointless.....you made a very good point.
But he forgot to mention how Bigfoot and his magic UFO replaced the Manhattan skyline with a hologram on 9/11.
Bigfoot's got a UFO?
Cheney bought it for him after an extremely successful tete-a-tete in a DC area Marriott.
Iraq, Afghanistan and Libya is NOT Saudi Arabia you accuse of attacking.
Read more into petrodollars and come back.
My post was an ironic comment, even more pointed due to the fact that we are now pretending to act as protectors of Saudi Arabia against Iranian aggression.
snicker
Well they are right that Bahrain is despicable.
So were Hozni and Muammar... but what do we have to deal with now?
yeah, the good old days it was all so neat and tidy back then.
hahaha
see sonny , most don't give a flying sack of dicks what you think you had to deal with.
get over your mindless patter.
Oh,goodie................now we have succeeded in getting them to fight each other. Cousins against cousins.
Also, can I please order some Fatwas?.
I'd rather see cousins against cousins, than the cousin on cousin action of West Virginia.
Cousin-cousin leads to cousin against cousin because the pickin's are slim in West Virginia....
You might be a Redneck if... You think family reunions are a good place to meet women...
Fatwas are only orderable by the case.
Lol so i guess this means they did try and assisinate the Saudi Ambassador.
That's alright. This is what world economies need. It's (war prvocation) the only solution because it ain't gonna be economic growth to quell the deficit biubble Jack!
Would not be surprised if the whole story was made up by Obama and his thugs knowing this would happen. Another war is exactly what this clown needs to divert the coutries attention from his total incompetence.
People said the same thing about Bush and his "thugs". These so called thugs are merely puppets. The real powers don't give a fuck who is in office. They control everyone.
But we may be about to re-discover why a strategic reserve is worth it's weight in gold ... ... go long electric push bikes and thorn-proof inner-tubes.