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Iranian Clerics Call For Attacks And Suicide Bombings On Global Saudi Interests
While it is unclear if the news reported by Shia-News, and amplified by Bahrain News, is in retaliation for the recent deterioration in Iran-US relations following an allegation that Iran sought to assassinate diplomats and blow up embassies in the US using Mexican hitmen, or if this is what led to it, it appears that Iran is playing hard ball. As Bahrain News reports, referencing a new posting in Shia-News, "The Iranian leaders, furious over the Saudi intervention in Bahrain and what they call crimes against the Shiites of that country, have openly created centers to recruit volunteers for suicide bombings against Saudi Arabia’s interests worldwide. Several grand ayatollahs in Iran have issued a fatwa for Muslims to come to the aid of their Shiite brothers in Bahrain, who they claim are suffering horrific crimes from their government in collaboration with the Saudi armed forces. They further emphasized that the people of Bahrain have every right to demand freedom and their fair share from the state. Shia-News, a site associated with Ayatollah Mesbah Yazdi (a hard-line Shiite Twelver and an influential figure in the suppression of Iranians during their uprising to protest the fraudulent presidential election of 2009), is registering volunteers to participate in suicide bombings against Saudi interests around the world. Hundreds have already registered. Reports from inside Iran indicate that an alert has gone out to the Revolutionary Guards Quds forces throughout the world to prepare for attacks on Saudi establishments."
The original referenece is the following (from Shia News)
The translated text of "Shia-News" Web Site is as below:
In The Name of the Lord of Shohada and Siddiqin
When the Holly Prophet (saww) said: "I listen and lounge Rjla Ynady or Llmslymn Yjbh Bmslm Flys" (If somebody calls for help and a Muslim hear him and do not help, he is not a Muslim), he was looking at the whole world of the humanity, not just where he lived. He didn't mean a Muslim is one who just say I am a Muslim, pray five times a day or go to Mecca to perform Hajj. If we consider that the Holly Prophet (saww) is innocent and sinless and never talk nonsense (it is what all Muslim believe in), so we must come to see it is the will of Allah for all Muslims not to be apathetic to what is happening to the people who asked for help and must help them in all conditions and with all the available sources.
To make it short, it is time to show the supporters of international terrorism, whose hands are colored by the blood of innocents, specially the Shias, that they can't do whatever they desire and there are some fearless youth who don't care what is fear.
"Shia News" has the honor of registering the brave youth and freedom seekers of the world who have the desire to help the oppressed people of Bahrain. The youth by the discretion of Grand Ayatollahs and authorities give a lesson to the aggressors to be record in the history.
For now we are looking to find additional information and confirmation on what could be an escalation to the worst US-Iranian relations in years.
In the meantime, the distinguished president continues on his rhetoric quest, saying Iran will face the toughest possible sanctions:
President Barack Obama warned Iran on Thursday it would face the toughest possible sanctions for an alleged plot to kill the Saudi ambassador to Washington, as officials eyed action against its central bank.
Saudi Arabia on Thursday accused Iran of fomenting instability but pledged a "measured response" over the alleged plot that has heightened tensions between OPEC's two top oil producers.
Saudi Foreign Minister Prince Saud al-Faisal said, on a visit to Austria, that the evidence showed "Iran is responsible" for the alleged plot and said Tehran had tried to "meddle" in the affairs of Arab states before.
In Washington, Obama told a news conference that the United States would not take any options off the table in dealing with Iran, a phrase U.S. officials regularly use toward Tehran that is diplomatic code for the possibility of military action.
"This is part of a pattern of dangerous and reckless behavior by the Iranian government," Obama said in his first public comments on the affair.
U.S. authorities on Tuesday said they had broken up a plot by two men linked to Iran's security agencies to assassinate Saudi Ambassador Adel al-Jubeir. One was arrested last month while the other was believed to be in Iran.
Iran called the accusations a fabrication designed to hurt its relations with its neighbors.
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Oh no... You're on to Obama Bin Lyin' and his re-election team...
CREEP -- Committee to RE-Elect the President
Clerics? WTF is this dungeons & dragons?
20-sided dice and cloaks, bitchez?
I disbelieve the illusion.
anything past the magic 8 ball is a waste
Gotta have someone to cast rez on the sappers.
Why can't religious Leaders Lead by Example... boom.
...and now for the Bee Gees http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBMriOspUvA&feature=related
So, the "let's you and him fight" plan is back in full swing, I see.
Who owns the Iranian power structure again?
I wonder if this Islamic website is hosted in Langley.
The Iranian regime must be becoming truly desperate to hold things together.
When you are essentially decalring war on the US, Saudi Arabia and Israel all at the same time, you are trying to rally your people to the "outside threat" to unify them at home.
Personally, I think a naval blockade of three months would be a reasonable retaliation.
Naval blockade? Pussy.
Why waste resources moving ships and people around? Very easy to "erase" them all and put a large oil pump on the glass desert that is left behind.
Don't be such a nerd and teese her by playing around the rim, get you whole dick in there and do it right.
Is a third war really what we need right now?
Not that familiar with "sarcasm" are you dipshit?
Oh, yeah, right.
Like we're going to use sarcasm around here.
Your "sarcasm" sucks.
try posting as an intelligent adult rather than the ranting like a 15 year old.
That's pretty rich coming from a person calling for a three month blockade of Iran because of what is easily the most laughably obvious false-flag operation in modern history.
He was being sarcastic when he said 'a third war'
alex jones reporting attack within 2 weeks............infowars......
Oh, it must be happening for sure then. Reallocating investments and assets immediately.
never said it was true, just that he is reporting it........
You could have bought the Vix on his July 2001 prediction of an imminent false flag. He didn't mention it just once, but over and over.
why would iran play along with the obvious false flag? i mean everybody told me this was faked by the Obama (D) administration.
Maybe Iran is backed by China and this is what they want? Just guessing.
"Iraq joins US supply chain"
"Petrodollar recycling is as important as control of oil fields and the manipulation of prices. The downstream activity is actually much more lucrative because it is one hundred percent opaque - where exactly are the petrodollars stacked away by the Persian Gulf oligarchies, in which banks, in which currencies, in which countries of the western world exactly, as also how those monies are wisely spent. Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Qatar, UAE - they are all part of the supply chain led by the West. "
this story came out oct 1........
http://blogs.rediff.com/mkbhadrakumar/2011/10/01/iraq-joins-the-us-supply-chain/
grand ayatollahs have a lot of freedom to do whatever the fuck they want and say whatever the fuck they want to say. The supreme council runs the show, not the political establiment. that this whole thing lacks an air of being vetted by others is not a surprise.
the USA has a lot to gain with its accusations just as those issuing fatwas have a lot to gain by taking a hard line.
Think about it:
1) They want to start a war, but the American people won't allow it
2) They teach generations of college kids that World War 2 got us out of the great depression
3) They create a repeat of the Great Depression
4) The (now) broke American people stick their head in the sand when the war starts, thinking it will help the economy and get them out of this depression.....
ALL BY DESIGN
You got it.....but it has to be WW3...small conflicts aren't enough.
You mean like 10 years in Afghanistan and 8 years in Iraq...simultaneously?
We are talking US vs CHINA for all the marbles
Bingo.
That'll be a war for resources once China's bubble begins popping and then they blame it on our legislation against their "currency manipulation."
I've thought for quite some time that China might try something once it gets desperate, I don't (at least I hope not) think they're that dumb but who knows.
Time will tell.
I think the US is that dumb......because we will lose a war to China
Riiight.
I'm going to stay in America. You can go to China if that's the case.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GAU-8_Avenger
1.5mil active US service men vs. 2.2mil China service men
Let's see at 2.2mil/4,200 rpm... what is that, 8 hours to kill their entire military with 1 warthog? Of course this is simplified but good god man... you think they're up to the task?
Who do you think is funding this country to operate right now?
The Chinese could win by just dumping every US dollar it owns....GAME OVER
Interesting concept, but just because you lay it out with bullet points doesn't make it true.
Simplified? Maybe just a tad. Best to remember the warnings of those worthies who have made a study of the subject:
"No plan of operations extends with certainty beyond the first encounter with the enemy's main strength" (or "no plan survives contact with the enemy") - Helmuth von Moltke
Both would lose. Especially China.
Fair enough
Trouble with China? Best start hoarding plastic pumpkins.
China will not play along.
They will just watch see the US weaken themselves further getting bogged down deeper in the ME. They will help Pakistan with arms and logistics, but not to the point of running any risks to themselves.
Their current strenght is that they can front-run their own moves in the bond markets.
We'll win the shooting. But it's going to be a long, hard fighting. We can never occupy (which is what it will take to end it) that country, though. If we try to occupy, we lose... So a war with them will be very costly.
Interesting concept, but just because you lay it out with bullet points doesn't make it true.
The vast majority of (broke) Americans didn't get the memo that specializing in a job that can be automated with technology/robotics is a dumb idea.
They also forgot that no one fucking needs a liberal arts degree. Specialized in sociology? Excellent. They're hiring down at the sociology plant. Never before have people been more disconnected from the reality of demand than now.
There will be another war because that's the way it's been for centuries. Rothschilds will fund both sides to create lasting opposition so they can continue to reap the spoils of war and the revenue it generates. They could care less who's fighting it, but you can bet your sweet ass they'll finance it. It also kills a lot of people in the process and to them that's just an added bonus. Few less sheep to feed. Ever since I read the creature from jekyll island a lot of this stuff has made more sense to me. Doesn't mean I like it, it just makes more sense.
Only question now is when will WWIII start. And believe me, it's only a question of when, not if.
sounds like you might be between jobs, t_k
I'm grateful for my job every day. I just don't understand people I meet who are just now graduating college with the most bullshit degree imaginable and $100k+ in debt.
They graduate then they're like "Oh shit... gotta find a job now..."
What the hell else did you expect? Some of them just go back to school. It's truly amazing. I'm dumbfounded daily by some of the shit I hear by interns where I currently work.
sure! more could double-down on graduate schoolz which would eventually force down wages for professors; except the coaches, the doctors of philosophy in PE
they will continue to carry the ball. how's yer team doing? rice? the rangers are still playing
part-time work from home + food stamps = party?
or, more like modern-day self reliance?
certainly not widespread civil unrest and possible revolution? L0L!!!
When I start using bullet points, I'll let you know
Slewie, you are truly a
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Oh yeah? Well what if he laid it out with 4200 bullet points per second!
War, what is it good for?
On the job training, real-time product testing, and the fine-tuning of foreign policy.
Don't forget: Home grown Manufacturing Sector gets busy...
But on The Jetsons when all the robots did the work, the people kicked back and got paid...
Grad students are usually technically sound though. Did good work. Perhaps smarter than the technical people fron Iraq.
Barahin ???? Sounds like an attempted Irainan takover.
Grad students are usually technically sound though. Did good work. Perhaps smarter than the technical people fron Iraq.
Barahin ???? Sounds like an attempted Irainan takover.
Not good for humans.
Very good news for arms manufacturers. Long tear gas and tomahawks.
4 days until Black Monday II
WOW bullshish for stawks! <;P
Ah yes, the religion of peace speaks again
And that other religion of peace answers in kind.
This war has been planned for some time..........its all about reclycling petro dollars to recapitalize the banks.............
Sounds like another ploy to break up OccupyWallStreet.
Right, funny enough ... even conservative German newspaper are not buying this assasination BS, only in the bad old US of A can one sell this non-sense to the public again and again ...
it's amazing really.
Damn foreign terrorist-funded propaganda ruining our country.
/sarc off
We love our outrageous conspiracy theories the best when they come from our idiot US political class...
The combination of Fast and Furious/Solyndra Scandals plus bumbling Iranian assassination attempt is strangely reminiscent of Monica Lewinsky and the need to Tomahawk chemical weapons factories in Sudan. And by chemical weapons I mean aspirin.
Seems to me the Obama administration knows it's fucked, and they're not afraid of sacrificing other people's kids on the field of pointless battle.
I guess Obama has been emboldened by his ongoing semi-success that has not yet turned into a protracted guerilla war in Libya. Much the same as Bush was encouraged by his own failures. So now he targets Iran.
It is already a gureilla war, the US media is hiding what is happening in libya.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/10/05/us-eni-libya-idUSTRE7944Z92011...
"the worst US-Iranian relations in years"
gee, really? what about the worst Saudi Arabian-Iranian relations in years???
there, nailed it.
The Clerics are the bosses....when they call for the order..time to watch out....not the Achman..he is just a puppet
Clearly Iran is another nation without representation and is in fact ruled by religious fanatics. It's not government there is no government in Iran. Let them all kill each other. Go Kurds!
Theocracy is government. And it's as bad as all the other kinds of government.
Yep, even the international bond market is a theocracy. *spins a dradle*
"Go Kurds!"
Friday Night Football (Soccer)
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Sanandaj Kurds
vs.
Qom Clerics
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Well at least Hank, Jr. has got someplace to go.
Old men calling on young men to sacrifice their lives for some great cause. It works every time. Eliminates the weak-minded and hot-headed. And, most important, it leaves more young ladies for the old men!
All Quiet on the Western Front.
Last I checked, we had Iran surrounded.
I don't know why that's funny but it is.
Lightningbolt, Fireball, magic missle then...Prismatic wall of Israeli nukes.
Meanwhile, we sit around delighted by cantrips. Simple people, we.
True that. Cast "Moisten" on that red haired serving wench when I call her over to our table, please.
TheAlexJonesChannel
OCTOBER 13, 2011
Retired U.S. Army Lieutenant Colonel Anthony Shaffer says that an FBI insider told him the dubious terror plot to assassinate a Saudi ambassador which has been blamed on Iran was likely manufactured by the Obama administration, because no information about the plot even exists within FBI channels.
The plot, an assassination attempt against Saudi Arabia's ambassador to the United States, Adel al-Jubeir, was pinned on an Iranian-American used-car salesman from Texas and subsequently linked by the Obama administration to a wider conspiracy controlled by Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps.
According to the administration, used car salesman Mansour J. Arbabsiar tried to hire assassins from a Mexican drug gang to carry out the murder, but the head of the drug gang turned out to be a DEA agent posing as a Mexican Los Zetas gangster. The story has all the hallmarks of classic FBI entrapment tactics that have characterized almost every major terror bust in recent times.
Having personally interrogated Iranians, Shaffer doubted the fact that members of the elite Quds Force would risk carrying out an assassination in the United States when it would be far easier to conduct such a plot in the middle east.
"It does not smell correctly," Shaffer told Fox Business host Andrew Napolitano, adding that it was doubtful a successful used car salesman who has been part of the community for 15 years would suddenly become embroiled in an international assassination plot.
Asked by Napolitano if Arbabsiar was the victim of another FBI sting, Shaffer responded, "I think that's part of it."
"The FBI's had a record lately and I did talk to one of my inside guys and he is saying he thinks the same thing, you know why, because he can't find any real information and he's got a clearance -- so that tells him that there's something going on that's extraordinary by the fact that he's an inside investigator, knows what's going on and yet, I'm gonna quote here, 'There's nothing on this within the DOJ beyond what they've talked about publicly' -- which means to him that there's something very wrong with it," said Shaffer.
Even the New York Times is now reporting that the dubious nature of the plot has caused "a wave of puzzlement and skepticism from some foreign leaders and outside experts."
The military-industrial complex has long been searching for a pretext that could be used to justify military strikes against Iran.
In a 2009 report entitled "Which Path to Persia?", the elitist Brookings Institution wrote, "It would be far more preferable if the United States could cite an Iranian provocation as justification for the airstrikes before launching them. Clearly, the more outrageous, the more deadly, and the more unprovoked the Iranian action, the better off the United States would be."
The dubious plot has been instantly seized upon by the likes of Hillary Clinton and John Kerry to push for Iran to be further isolated by the international community. Kerry's comments were perhaps the most bellicose, telling reporters yesterday, "I don't think anything should be taken off the table at this point in time."
It has also served as a useful distraction for Attorney General Eric Holder, who is currently under investigation for his role in the infamous Fast and Furious program, which saw the federal government deliver thousands of military-grade weapons to leaders of Mexican drug gangs.
"That the current "alleged" plot pinned on Iran revolves around yet another undercover federal agency conducting a long-term sting operation defies belief," writes Tony Cartalucci. "That we are expected to believe one of Iran's most elite military forces left such a sensitive, potentially war-starting operation to a used-car salesman and a drug gang reported in the papers daily for its involvement with US government agencies (and who turns out to actually be undercover DEA agents) is so ridiculous it can only be "made up" as Secretary Clinton puts it. More accurately, it is the result of an impotent US intelligence community incapable of contriving anything more convincing in the face of an ever awakening American public, to bolster its morally destitute agenda. The cartoonish nature of the plot and the arms' length even its proponents treat it with to maintain plausible deniability is indicative of a dangerously out of control ruling elite and an utterly incompetent, criminally insane government."
Ahhh, I get it now Obama is a Sunni Muslim.
Now it all makes sense. He can't be the ruler of the new Islamic world if it is controlled by Shias because only a blood relative of Muhammad or the reincarnation of him can be the true ruler.
Damn should have seen that earlier.
"This is the right war at the right time" - eh John?
can we start a collection to buy an oil tanker full of black gold...we can name it the SS Zerohedge...and just drive the thing around the globe till the missles start to fly?
I'm in! here's putting my Trillion dollar Zimb note to work.
Well, whatdayaknow. The "Virgin Bulls" were right alter all.
Kudos!
Hey Barack, might be time to start drilling our own oil, don't ya know.
I don't remember seeing this in the White House briefing this morning. Probably was not time. Hmmm.
long: crude, gold, halliburton, g4s, statoil, petrobras
ultra short: humanity
Humanity is a myth. Move on, nothing to short here.
It's On! WW3
infowars.com
C'mon, Iranians, hiring Mexicans to assassinate Saudis? WTF? Everyone knows Barama is toast and his puppet masters are setting us (you and me) up for war. Covert now turning Overt operation Save Obamas Ass.
they threatened our embassy (acdcording to the FBI)!
they tried to trample upon our (false) flag!
now hee-haw? now jee-had? must.activate.suicide.troll-bots?
apparently, iran feels the US & the saudis are in cahoots about something or other?
If geopolitics are about to spoil the party it might be a good time to buy some Canadian oil sands stocks or go long WTI/Brent.
I think Statoil (Norway) or Petrobras (Brazil) are good choices. They have way better margins than oil sand companies and they don´t face canadian regulators..
Investing in state-owned oil companies can be hazardous to one's wealth. If they allow it at all.
Couldnt happen to a nicer group of people.
I hope there is no one left standing in either country at the end of hostilities
time to buy some millitary stocks.
any sugestions?
XOM, BP, CVX, TOT, COP, HAL, SLB...go long western petro-imperialism
seagrams
G4S = mercenaries
Halliburton = supply chain managment
Cheery headline. Some buddy gettin' antsy to stuff $130 Brent down the throats of the West again? Or is this just cyclic sabre rattling between sects?
I can see it now - a bunch of towel heads in back packs running into a room yelling. "Leeeeeerroooooyyyyy Jennnnnnkkkinnnnnnns"
Fuckin' dumbass Leroy... classic...
all "Leeeeeerroooooyyyyy Jennnnnnkkkinnnnnnns" references get a green arrow, regardless if the the reference works or not.
So be it, Jedi.
Don't worry...this whole Muslim thing is a passing fad. like disco it'll blow over any day now.
During the Iranian hostage crisis of '79 (which kicked all this shit off), Carter, during a national security council briefing asked for suggestions and opened the floor. One junior advisor spoke up.
"Mr. President, I think you should issue the Iranians an ultimatum. You have 30 days to release the hostages or we'll turn Tehran into a sea of glass."
Ah, the benefit of hindsight................
Or when China called the US a paper tiger and begged us to nuke Shanghai.
Or when the French begged us to nuke the Vietcong above Dien Bien Phu and Ike told them to stuff it.
The Japanese occupation ended French colonial rule in Vietnam. Ho Chi Minh and his cohorts (along with some material help and expertise from the US) defeated the Japanese presence in Vietnam.
After WW2 the French tried to regain their holdings in Vietnam. The Vietnamese asked their American allies for help but the US supported the French effort at recolonization. When Ho was rebuffed by the Americans he turned to the Soviets for assistance.
Here's what could have been:
Proclamation of Independence of the Democratic Republic of VietnamHo Chi Minh, September 2, 1945,
The compatriots of the entire country,
All men are created equal; they are endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable Rights; among these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness.
This immortal statement was made in the Declaration of Independence of the United States of America in 1776. In a broader sense, this means: All the peoples on the earth are equal from birth, all the peoples have a right to live, to be happy and free.
The Declaration of the Rights of Man and Citizen of the French Revolution made in 1791 also states: All men are born free and with equal rights, and must always remain free and have equal rights.
Those are undeniable truths.
Nevertheless, for more than eighty years, the French imperialists, abusing the standard of Liberty, Equality, and Fraternity, have violated our Fatherland and oppressed our fellow citizens. They have acted contrary to the ideals of humanity and justice.
In the field of politics, they have deprived our people of every democratic liberty.
They have enforced inhuman laws; they have set up three distinct political regimes in the North, the Center, and the South of Viet-Nam in order to wreck our national unity and prevent our people from being united.
They have built more prisons than schools. They have mercilessly slaughtered our patriots; they have drowned our uprisings in bloodbaths.
They have fettered public opinion; they have practiced obscurantism against our people.
To weaken our race they have forced us to use opium and alcohol.
In the field of economics, they have fleeced us to the backbone, impoverished our people and devastated our land.
They have robbed us of our rice fields, our mines, our forests, and our raw materials. They have monopolized the issuing of bank notes and the export trade.
They have invented numerous unjustifiable taxes and reduced our people, especially our peasantry, to a state of extreme poverty.
They have hampered the prospering of our national bourgeoisie; they have mercilessly exploited our workers.
In the autumn of 1940, when the Japanese fascists violated Indochina's territory to establish new bases in their fight against the Allies, the French imperialists went down on their bended knees and handed over our country to them. Thus, from that date, our people were subjected to the double yoke of the French and the Japanese. Their sufferings and miseries increased. The result was that, from the end of last year to the beginning of this year, from Qu?ng Tr? Province to the North of Viet-Nam, more than two million of our fellow citizens died from starvation.
On March 9 [1945], the French troops were disarmed by the Japanese. The French colonialists either fled or surrendered, showing that not only were they incapable of "protecting" us, but that, in the span of five years, they had twice sold our country to the Japanese.
On several occasions before March 9, the Vi?t Minh League urged the French to ally themselves with it against the Japanese. Instead of agreeing to this proposal, the French colonialists so intensified their terrorist activities against the Vi?t Minh members that before fleeing they massacred a great number of our political prisoners detained at Yên Bái and Cao B?ng.
Notwithstanding all this, our fellow citizens have always manifested toward the French a tolerant and humane attitude. Even after the Japanese Putsch of March, 1945, the Vi?t Minh League helped many Frenchmen to cross the frontier, rescued some of them from Japanese jails, and protected French lives and property.
From the autumn of 1940, our country had in fact ceased to be a French colony and had become a Japanese possession. After the Japanese had surrendered to the Allies, our whole people rose to regain our national sovereignty and to found the Democratic Republic of Viet-Nam.
The truth is that we have wrested our independence from the Japanese and not from the French.
The French have fled, the Japanese have capitulated, Emperor B?o ??i has abdicated. Our people have broken the chains which for nearly a century have fettered them and have won independence for the Fatherland. Our people at the same time have overthrown the monarchic regime that has reigned supreme for dozens of centuries. In its place has been established the present Democratic Republic.
For these reasons, we, members of the Provisional Government, representing the whole Vietnamese people, declare that from now on we break off all relations of a colonial character with France; we repeal all the international obligation that France has so far subscribed to on behalf of Viet-Nam, and we abolish all the special rights the French have unlawfully acquired in our Fatherland.
The whole Vietnamese people, animated by a common purpose, are determined to fight to the bitter end against any attempt by the French colonialists to reconquer the country.
We are convinced that the Allied nations, which at Teharan and San Francisco have acknowledged the principles of self-determination and equality of nations, will not refuse to acknowledge the independence of Viet-Nam.
A people who have courageously opposed French domination for more than eighty years, a people who have fought side by side with the Allies against the fascists during these last years, such a people must be free and independent!
For these reasons, we, members of the Provisional Government of the Democratic Republic of Viet-Nam, solemnly declare to the world that:
Viet-Nam has the right to be a free and independent country—and in fact it is so already. The entire Vietnamese people are determined to mobilize all their physical and mental strength, to sacrifice their lives and property in order to safeguard their independence and liberty.
I happen to know that Ho applied for asylum in the US and a low level State Dept. functionary, sympathetic to the French, said he had met that Commie in Paris and threw away the application.
So goes history, at times in the hands of one solitary individual....
You are right; it happened when Ho emigrated as young man, a kitchen cook in Haarlem in 1913, and before he returned to France and became a big independent activist in Paris in 1919, during Versailles treaty discussions. It was then he became a militant communist, member of Comintern Asian branch, and later returned to form party as initiator of anti-colonial independence movement in Indochina. Catch em young...
One American special forces operative who assisted Ho against the Japanese during WW2 said that Ho continually asked questions about American liberty and our Declaration of Independence. The American said that Ho could quote the Declaration more faithfully than he could himself.
The speech by Ho which I posted above shows no signs of communist aspirations. He had to fall back on communism when the US failed to support Vietnam against French recolonization.
I also recall hearing that the fledgling CIA wanted to support Ho, but State wouldn't hear of it, wanting to 'help the poor French' after their tough showing in WWII. The first US casualty in 'Nam was an OSS officer helping the Viets--assassinated, it is said, because a Viet guerilla squad mistook him for a Frenchman.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A._Peter_Dewey
Bonus question: What the hell happened to the CIA between 1945 (supporting Ho) and 1954 (Iranian and Honduran coups)? Hint: Dulles Brothers.
I believe that Dulles also pops up in restoring the Bush family fortune after their problems with supporting Nazi banks (or whatever that deal was) as well as in the Warren Commission.
Jim, Catch my post just above. Yes, it delineates about Dulles, CIA, BP and Iran,
Lots of tangents, same bastards behind each one.
Ike didn't like De Lattre de TAssigny, who worshipped Macarthur...whom Ike hated...
Really? The Iranian hostage crisis of '79 kicked all this shit off? How utterly convenient.
Some might be inclined to think that what really "kicked all this shit off" was a little event known as Operation Ajax in 1953.
It goes a little something like this:
The 1953 Iranian coup d'état (known in Iran as the 28 Mordad coup[3]) was the overthrow of the democratically elected government of Iranian Prime Minister Mohammad Mosaddegh on 19 August 1953, orchestrated by the intelligence agencies of the United Kingdom and the United States under the name TPAJAX Project.[4] The coup saw the transition of Mohammad-Rez? Sh?h Pahlavi from a constitutional monarch to an authoritarian one who relied heavily on United States support to hold on to power until his own overthrow in February 1979.[5] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Iranian_coup_d%27%C3%A9tat
But why should they be upset by this right?
alien...you sound like a VERY sensitive, emotional guy. IMHO, it's the sensitive types that continue to put our culture and way of life at risk.
America needs Pattons....not Aldas.
America needs more Edisons and Fords not more warriors or former funny men.
when stupidity is considered patriotic, it becomes unsafe to be intelligent.
you sound like quite the patriot.
At last count....7 Aldas...1 Patton. America is fucked.
When the North Koreans are raping your wives and daughters, they'll probably be cornholin' you girls at the same time.
Then again, some of you will probably enjoy it.
You didn't tell them the most important part. Mosaddegh had just demanded a little bit more of a share on the profits of the Oil. The British didn't like it and as you explained took it back over and then formed British Petroleum.
Tell your detractors to do just a TINY bit of reading.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=21112
I think they consider reading to be "unpatriotic"...or some such nonsense.
unless you're reading Patton quotes...then you're good to go.
a culture fueled by bloodlust can only breed a society of savages.
I hope they're dumb enough to institute a draft with this new war front. That'll get some asses on the street for sure.
Albert Pike, paging Mr. Albert Pike.
Your third world war is on hold for you!
abidjad is one thing and the clerics quite another but mention the term grand ayatollah and it's a whole new camel race
Ahhhh aaahhh page refresh quick. now its Obama and Michelle telling me to go all in on Barack!!!!!!!!!
Damn you Zero hedge you made me look at Michelle's face I'm turning to stone. WTF is up with these ads?
Does Obama really think anyone on Zero Hedge would follow a page ad?
Well, 10/1/11 was the FY for the military, gotta spend it somewhere. Libya is definitely front and center, but hey, while we're in the area, huh? huh?
And yes, they are already surrounded, and their 3-4G cell phones triangulated.
The parties of God at work again, eh?
Monotheism: the most disastrous development of the human mind. Ever. Including nukes.
Ahh... The human denominator>? Risk needs a {ReAlITy} check.
SCUD missiles or ICBMs, I gotta this funny feeling the 4th of July is coming early for 2012.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shi%27a%E2%80%93Sunni_relations
http://www.infowars.com/sources-us-gives-israel-green-light-for-iran-strike/
Calm down and go read Unabomber's Manifesto at http://www.provokateur.com/webres/Unabomber%20Manifesto%20by%20Theodore%20Kaczynski.pdf
Just kindly replace " industrial" with "financial."
So, a nation is targeting high-level members of a group hostile to its interests for assassination on foreign soil?
Didn't Ron Paul have something to say about this recently? Huh? Oh, he was critical of the US government doing it...huh again.
Huh.
And by the way since no one has mentioned the Shia in eastern KSA who are getting shot and shooting back at the Saudi security forces, and who happen to live on top of most of the KSA's oil....I will mention them.
Bahrain, schmarain. This is about Eastern Saudi Arabia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_Province,_Saudi_Arabia
MENA: Arab vs Persian ancient rematch. There can only be one.
What is disturbing is that Iran/Hezbollah (Persians) have exploited Venezuela and the Mexican drug cartel trafficking routes into the US through the (wide open) back door as the cartels have curiously learned to use IEDs and car bombs. Iran is also prepping for long range missile sites in Venezuela. Meantime, the consolidating MB (Arab - old Ottoman Empire) is welcomed through the front door of the USA courtesy the WH regime.
That the US DOJ would be running guns to the Mexican cartels while all of this has been known to be going on is a Pandora's Box of conspiracy theories.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9erH7SuaLps&feature=related
Uploaded by RussiaToday on Oct 12, 2011
Washington says the thwarted plot to kill the Saudi ambassador to the U.S. will further isolate Iran, with the allegations expected to increase sanctions on Tehran. Two Iranians were charged over trying to hire members of a Mexican drug cartel to carry out the attack - something Tehran dismissed as a 'comedy show'. RT's Gayane Chichakyan reports from Washington. Also, RT talks to Professor of political communication, Foad Izadi from Tehran University
Fool the American public once, shame on you; fool the American public a gazillion times, shame on the public. The world’s last bastion of free people has become a useful-idiot tool for war-mongering tyrants using the U.S. government as a stalking horse for war and iron fisted world control. … Those who would do something no longer have recourse through government. Layers and layers of bureaucracy are designed so the people at the top can do whatever they want without any repercussions from the people! We can get nothing changed, no one convicted... Write your Congressman has become a joke.
Bizarre Iranian “Plot” Doesn’t Add Up today by Patrick Cockburn on Counterpunch ….
“The claim that Iran employed a used-car salesman with a conviction for cheque fraud to hire Mexican gangsters to assassinate the Saudi ambassador in Washington goes against all that is known of Iran’s highly sophisticated intelligence service.
“The confident announcement of this bizarre plot by the US Attorney General Eric Holder sounds alarmingly similar to Secretary of State Colin Powell’s notorious claim before the UN in 2003 that the US possessed irrefutable evidence Saddam Hussein was developing weapons of mass destruction.
“The problem is that the US government has very publicly committed itself to a version of events, however unlikely, that, if true, would be a case for war against Iran. It will be difficult for the US to back away from such allegations now.” …
http://www.counterpunch.org/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-IdFPhkvvM&feature=related
The Feds have already admitted that top level Iranian officials knew nothing of the plot.
It was another FBI sting. Hear it from the Judge.
the greatest friend to Israel's pretensions in Mid East is Allah! And his dual message to Shia Clerics and Sunni fundamentalists. With friends like that in the moslem world who needs enemies. Its a mad world and there is only one solution on the ideological front facing the people of islamic world : believe in secular political systems and keep religion at home.
It took the west a thousand years to learn that since the Crusades...
If only they would learn from this lesson of history that I've tried to resuscitate here :
http://www.falakpema.com/buythebook.html
Why the lipstick? Rabid Islamic fundamentalism is the biggest millstone around the necks of the population of Mid-East peoples since 1300, when Mamluk military cast and Sunni power destroyed the tree of knowledge in Islam. Until that age the Moslems did produce the best physicians, philosophers and mathematicians.
They've taken their time to be upset about Bahrain. The people have been dreadfully treated by their government for 3 or 4 months now with the help of Saudi Forces.
These guys should come and work at the frickin' ECB!
I figure if I copyright the phrase "Fair share" I will be a millionaire in no time.
Ruh-Roh
The C Jockeys are having a psychotic Jihadi moment...
Bullshit! Don't believe this war propaganda! Do you really want war number 7 America?!?! While bombing Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Yemen, Libya and Somalia the US empire will crumble in a tsunami of debt, and all of you will be slaves to the Zionist regime! No more pointless and endless wars for Israel, the criminal state who wants to Holocaust Europe trought the Samson Option! Kick some hippie ass in your town and take down US ZOG!
Deflect much? The US and Israel don't even enter into this article. Your racist leanings are showing.
and this will be good for "Zionist Regime" how? doesn't their very survival depend on the US' support?
Watch this short clip: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JL4Cu-K17vE
why do you insist on publishing this propaganda shit. Do we have clerics on tape from an interview to confirm this? Do you believe Iran is looking for a fight?
Iran is attempting to stay neutral since it will prolong their existence as they know it today.
This article is utter fucking nonsense.
Are you one of those morons that keeps denying the holocaust denying, even though the Iranian Nutjob keeps saying it??