Ireland: "Germany Is Our New Master"

Tyler Durden's picture

Not only is Germany at the epicenter of the Italian-Spanish-French save-us 'discussion', they have now managed to add Ireland to their 'Uber Alles'. Reuters is reporting the leak of confidential Irish budget information by German lawmakers and Irish parliamentarians are seething - viewing the leak as 'incredible' and 'unprecedented'. Given the new laws, Germany now has the right to be fully informed about bailout countries' progress before new tranches of funds are paid out. As the Irish Daily Mirror put it perfectly "Germany is our new master." 


Reuters: Ireland cries foul after German budget leak

The Irish government has complained to European partners after confidential budget information shared with its EU-IMF lenders was leaked by German lawmakers, sparking a political storm at home.


The media and opposition reacted furiously at the fact that the details of the December budget were presented to German lawmakers before their Irish counterparts, heightening fears that its EU-IMF bailout has undermined Irish sovereignty.


"Germany is our new master," ran a banner front-page headline in the Irish Daily Mirror. Opposition leaders in parliament described the leaks as "incredible" and "unprecedented" and demanded the government explain.


New German laws give its parliament the right to be fully informed about bailout countries' progress before new trenches of funds are paid out and Ireland's main opposition party led cries Germany was now calling the shots in Europe.


Germany is pushing aggressively for EU treaty change to create tighter fiscal discipline across the bloc and a spokesman for its finance ministry said there was a clear procedure allowing parliament to see confidential documents belonging to countries in EU/IMF programmes.




The leader of Ireland's largest opposition party said voters were entitled to an explanation of why the information was given to European partners before Irish lawmakers.


"I think it will be damaging in the sense that it plays to a narrative that Germany is calling shots all over Europe," Fianna Fail leader Michael Martin told Reuters.


"It will damage sentiment towards Europe and that is a problem."

And someone still thinks that this uber dysfunctional Europe can become a federal union?

It is evidently clear that sovereignty is indeed blurring at the edges - cue Nigel Farage.

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El Viejo's picture

Didn't they side with Germany during WW II ?

redpill's picture

beugen Sie unten, bevor das, das Sie dienen

El Viejo's picture

Erin go braughless. I like her better that way!

Pladizow's picture

Germany is doing with the pen what they wanted to do with the sword!

markmotive's picture

The path to WWII was also economic.

I'm willing to bet the causes of 99% of all wars have been economic.

redpill's picture

Meanwhile Putin has this looping on his computer as his minature giraffe runs the treadmill

sqz's picture

FAZ (German newspaper) did an interview with Ireland's Prime Minister recently and this was the very start of the conversation:

FAZ: "Mr Irish prime minister, do you speak German?"

Mr Kenny: "I can only say good day, but my children are learning."



kaiserhoff's picture

When your partners have secret budgets, you have too many partners.

PY-129-20's picture

Very interesting. Thanks. Well, you must know that Volker Kauder (considered to be an idiot by me) recently said 'Europe must learn to speak German' (of course he did not mean to speak the language, but more to behave like the Germans).

I find that utterly wrong and also very arrogant. Germany has a lot of problems which often go unnoticed in the recent discussion. While it certainly did some things right, it should not be in the position to command anyone around. Given our history, we should be more cautious and mind our words better. Having said that it is okay if we check what the others do before we send them any money. Of course if anybody would've listened to the eurosceptical (not to confuse with nationalistic or anti-european or anything like that) group in our country, the Irish and the Germans would not be in this stupid and mind boggling situation of today.

Hope my next Guinness won't be poisoned. A life without a Guinness and no Irish Poets, no Dubliners - I'd rather kill myself... ;)

AldousHuxley's picture

Germany has always been the master.

Except this time the master has revealed herself to do the slave whipping herself.

jaffa's picture

Politically, the island is divided between the Republic of Ireland, which covers just under five sixths of the island, and Northern Ireland, a part of the United Kingdom, which covers the remainder and is located in the northeast of the island. Thanks.
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boiltherich's picture

What is up with that guy's eyebrows and vinyl toupee?  Creepy.  But your point is well taken, I was in the service during the cold war and am disappointed that the USA did not better engage the Russians after the breakup of the USSR, we could have made great friends with them and helped guide them to a better and mutually beneficial future, instead they are now more dangerous than ever. 

Desert Irish's picture

I'm willing to bet the causes of 99% of all wars have been due to religion.

Fixed it for ya...


Roger O. Thornhill's picture

Politics is a religion. Communism, Socialism and Nazism all have there pie-in-the-sky utopian dreams. The 3 "ism's" are also very much secular religions with their own dogmas, and have actually killed more people than simple religion. I think communism is the winner with over 100 million killed for their secular/atheist utopia. And even the "simple" religions that did any killing, did it via centralized government mandate. Religion alone, without the force of government behind it, has no power to do mass murder.

I always laugh at those who say secularism is more sane. As long as idealistic human beings are involved in muscling their "ideals" on the rest of us there will be prisons, torture, and ultimately death camp for the unbelievers in the secularist's dreams.

Frankly I have my beliefs, but don't have the least desire to force them on those that disagree with them. I just wish people would stop trying to vote (coerce) me into their idealistic, socialist/fascist, governmentally run, legalistic, horror-show. 

FeralSerf's picture

Religion is just the method the rulers communicate with the unlearned, the ones that still want to believe in Santa Whatshername.

"Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful." -Lucius Annaeus Seneca (4?BCE - 61CE)

Hacked Economy's picture

Anyone who thinks differently than you is "unlearned", huh? 

"The fool says in his heart, 'There is no God.'"  [Psalm 14:1]

boiltherich's picture

religion=government for, of, and by the weak minded.

Goldilocks's picture

@Pladizow, I get the impression that …that’s always been in the cards.

Money - The 12th and Final Religion ( )

The Moloch is the God of money. The book MONEY: The 12th and FINAL RELIGION tells about this God that can neither pardon nor forgive. Israel was not intended either as a people or a place name. The Cosmic contract to prosper in harmony with nature during human progress has been set aside to favor the usury of God Moloch, and the Temple of Central banking known as the Federal Reserve System. The religion of God Moloch dominates all other religions as it is the only universal religion recognized by all and known as MONEY.


Here’s an interview ( - MP3) with Richard Duane Willing that begins @49:42…

mentioned in the interview (paraphrased)...

- linked to immoral behavior, sexual deviance, and ritual murder
- the co-conspirators are the great merchants / corporations [with central banks being the other co-conspirators]
- the attributes (in order) of the “perfect costumer” according to the great merchants & their market research, are...
    - homosexual
    - black
    - mixed race
    - Asian
    - white women
    - Mexicans
    - white males
- cosmic struggle / spiritual warfare
- the structure seems to be, the British discovered when they were setting up their empire, that there are 11 religions that control the majority of people. they proceeded to establish the British empire based on these (plus one, “money”… 12 religions)
- money is a religion… their god is Moloch    
- all money begins as a loan
- money is mobilized as a synapse (psychically) between a borrower and a banker
- money generates interest yet is not consumed in the process (using the burning bush allegory)
- money is agreement between two minds... who acknowledge the god Moloch (when the meeting of two minds occurred)
- money is hiding behind all the other religions. it manifests in society & in our banks
- very few people (even in the banks) understand
- money systems are based on belief (faith) & shared trust, which makes them real
- Moloch, is hiding in plain site, at your bank
- ( I = PRT ) interest = principal * rate * time
- the holy grail is a table of interest rates


 [BTW… for those, ahhhhh .. high speed ZH types… some media-players can be set to playback fast with little pitch distortion]
...Enjoy ;-) ... ahh, or not :-(  ...    ;-)

gmrpeabody's picture

Have you tried medication.....,

He_Who Carried The Sun's picture

Remember when you'd once opened a personal bank account yourself, did you also tell YOUR banker to STOP being a nazi when he/she asked for timely payments on any loan given?
What has this blog become? A place for xenophobe Neo-Nazi?

What dumb** you are, all of you~! lol

i-dog's picture

It's amazing (ie. depressing) how easily the magician can direct the crowd while his assistant picks their pockets clean!


Magician: "It's the Muzlimz."

Crowd: "Boooooo!! Bad Muzlimz! Bomb the Muzlimz!"

Magician: "Just joking. It's really the jooz."

Crowd: "Boooooo!! Bad Jooz! Burn the Jooz!"

Magician: "Nah ... It's the bankstaz."

Crowd: "Boooooo!! Bad bankstaz! Hang the bankstaz!"

Magician: "Oops, sorry ... It's the politicians."

Crowd: "Boooooo!! Bad policicians! Hang the politicians!"

Magician: "Hey, look ... a crowd of hippies are protesting."

Crowd: "Boooooo!! Bad hippies! Hang the hippies!"

Magician: "Hey. Had you there! It's really the capitalists."

Crowd: "Boooooo!! Bad capitalists! Hang the capitalists!"

Magician: "I'm being serious now ... It's really the Germans."

Crowd: "Booooo!! Bad Germans! Hang the Germans!"

... and so the show goes on....


They've heard of Hegel, but have no idea what he was talking about. :-/

Buck Johnson's picture

Bingo, and it continues on and on.

GenX Investor's picture

It's a don't worry, we lift all boats, kind'a Germany.  You can trust us this time.

philipat's picture

Dominatrix Merkel in black boots? That thought is enough to turn anyone's stomach.

gmrpeabody's picture

All your potatoes are belong to us.

4realmoney's picture

I speak german but your comment does not make sense at all?!?


Going back to the article. This is not just an issue in Europe. Power/Money is moving quick and uncontrolled and nobody knows what is going to happen. We have to think about morality here. unfortunately in our fast spinning world most people do not give a S*** and close their eyes if big money or power is in sight. Anyway to understand all a bit better what is going on I can just recommend this video. it is long but worth it!



Five8Charlie's picture

Oh, you'll have a chance to re-learn...

redpill's picture

I only remember enough German to change the oil in the Bimmer!

Pladizow's picture

The "re-education" camps will remind you!

kaiserhoff's picture

Just speak a little Amish.  They'll think you're quaint and old-fashioned;)

JungleJim's picture

The best way to learn any language is with a "pillow dictionary". :)

El Viejo's picture

Isn't it a little uncomfortable using a book as a pillow??  I'm kidding !! I'm kidding !! Really.

Missiondweller's picture

Its close enough to make his point.

Gringo Viejo's picture

Ich Ben Ein Don't Recall........Ronald Reagan Contra Affair 1986

Robot Traders Mom's picture

I think they were still in a potato famine.

Robot Traders Mom's picture

Tough crowd today. I guess this turned into a forum of Mick's!

El Viejo's picture

Really, sheesh!  Now I've got a whole country mad at me.

eurogold's picture

Ireland should pray for a master like Germany since they can't do shit without Germany!

gojam's picture

No, Ireland was neutral.

But that didn't stop thousands of Irishman joining various allied armed forces including Great Britain's.

Vergeltung's picture

yep. Irish Guards Tank Division, etc.


Harlequin001's picture

Northern Irish Protestants are very patriotic and a credit to the union but the rest of 'em,  well...

beastie's picture

No. I could enlighten you further but go look at a Wiki. 

ZH would have been better off picking a newspaper to quote rather than this stupid rag.

Per Olie Rehn this is considered normal operating procedure (only yesteday it was denied to have occured) Greece etc are getting the same treatment. The Technocrats are coming. The Technocrats are coming.


SilverIsKing's picture

The Germans have agreed to permit Irish Idol and Survivor Belfast to be shown in their entirety so I don't see what the big deal is.

gojam's picture

Belfast is in Northern Ireland, part of the UK.

gojam's picture


someone marked me down for pointing out a geographical fact.