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Ireland: "Germany Is Our New Master"
Not only is Germany at the epicenter of the Italian-Spanish-French save-us 'discussion', they have now managed to add Ireland to their 'Uber Alles'. Reuters is reporting the leak of confidential Irish budget information by German lawmakers and Irish parliamentarians are seething - viewing the leak as 'incredible' and 'unprecedented'. Given the new laws, Germany now has the right to be fully informed about bailout countries' progress before new tranches of funds are paid out. As the Irish Daily Mirror put it perfectly "Germany is our new master."
Reuters: Ireland cries foul after German budget leak
The Irish government has complained to European partners after confidential budget information shared with its EU-IMF lenders was leaked by German lawmakers, sparking a political storm at home.
The media and opposition reacted furiously at the fact that the details of the December budget were presented to German lawmakers before their Irish counterparts, heightening fears that its EU-IMF bailout has undermined Irish sovereignty.
"Germany is our new master," ran a banner front-page headline in the Irish Daily Mirror. Opposition leaders in parliament described the leaks as "incredible" and "unprecedented" and demanded the government explain.
New German laws give its parliament the right to be fully informed about bailout countries' progress before new trenches of funds are paid out and Ireland's main opposition party led cries Germany was now calling the shots in Europe.
Germany is pushing aggressively for EU treaty change to create tighter fiscal discipline across the bloc and a spokesman for its finance ministry said there was a clear procedure allowing parliament to see confidential documents belonging to countries in EU/IMF programmes.
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The leader of Ireland's largest opposition party said voters were entitled to an explanation of why the information was given to European partners before Irish lawmakers.
"I think it will be damaging in the sense that it plays to a narrative that Germany is calling shots all over Europe," Fianna Fail leader Michael Martin told Reuters.
"It will damage sentiment towards Europe and that is a problem."
And someone still thinks that this uber dysfunctional Europe can become a federal union?
It is evidently clear that sovereignty is indeed blurring at the edges - cue Nigel Farage.
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Hear about the two Irish men standing outside the pub in the afternoon?
It could happen.
list of countries by alcohol consuption:
Moldova 8.22 10.00 18.22 4.57 4.67 4.42 0.00 Uganda 10.93 1.00 11.93 6.51 0.00 0.18 10.50 Czech Republic 14.97 1.48 16.45 8.51 2.33 3.59 0.39 Hungary 12.27 4.00 16.27 4.42 4.94 3.02 0.14 Russia 11.03 4.73 15.76 3.65 0.10 6.88 0.34 Ukraine 8.10 7.50 15.60 2.69 0.58 5.21 0.02 Estonia 13.77 1.80 15.57 5.53 1.09 9.19 0.43 Andorra 14.08 1.40 15.48 3.93 5.69 3.14 0.00 Romania 11.30 4.00 15.30 4.07 2.33 4.14 0.00 Slovenia 12.19 3.00 15.19 4.10 5.10 1.33 0.00 Belarus 11.22 3.91 15.13 1.84 0.80 4.08 2.67 Croatia 12.61 2.50 15.11 4.66 5.80 1.91 0.14 Lithuania 12.03 3.00 15.03 5.60 1.80 4.50 0.60 South Korea 11.80 3.00 14.80 2.14 0.06 9.57 0.04 Portugal 12.45 2.10 14.55 3.75 6.65 1.27 0.51 Ireland 13.39 1.00 14.41 7.04 2.75 2.51 1.09 France 13.30 0.36 13.66 2.31 8.14 2.62 0.17 United Kingdom 11.67 1.70 13.37 4.93 3.53 2.41 0.67 Denmark 11.37 2.00 13.37 5.06 4.43 1.78 0.00 Slovakia 10.33 3.00 13.33 3.90 1.70 5.40 0.00 Netherlands 9.55 3.70 13.25 5.27 1.23 2.97 0.00 Austria 12.60 0.64 13.24 6.70 4.10 1.60 0.40 Luxembourg 12.01 1.00 13.01 1.59 8.16 2.00 0.00 Germany 11.81 1.00 12.81 6.22 3.15 2.30 0.00 Finland 9.72 2.80 12.52 4.59 2.24 2.82 0.31 Latvia 9.50 3.00 12.50 3.61 1.10 6.24 0.10 Bulgaria 11.24 1.20 12.44 3.53 2.44 4.88 0.10 Nigeria 9.78 2.50 12.28 0.54 0.01 0.02 9.17 Saint Lucia 11.35 0.50 11.85 3.49 0.71 8.21 0.31 Spain 10.22 1.40 11.62 4.52 3.59 1.31 0.61 Armenia 10.05 1.30 11.35 1.05 0.39 0.65 9.36 Serbia 9.97 1.12 11.09 4.40 2.21 3.42 0.04 Switzerland 10.56 0.50 11.06 3.10 5.10 1.80 0.10 Kazakhstan 6.06 4.90 10.96 1.69 0.30 4.19 0.01 Belgium 9.77 1.00 10.77 5.49 3.55 0.62 0.03 Greece 8.95 1.80 10.75 2.20 4.51 2.38 0.13 Italy 8.33 2.35 10.68 1.73 6.38 0.42 0.00 Azerbaijan 7.30 3.30 10.60 7.00 0.03 0.97 0.00 Seychelles 9.59 1.00 10.59 7.15 3.15 1.59 0.00 Grenada 9.85 0.50 10.35 3.16 0.42 7.15 0.04 Sweden 6.70 3.60 10.30 2.60 2.90 1.10 0.00 Palau 9.10 1.00 10.10 8.68 0.52 2.10 0.00 Poland 9.55 3.70 13.25 4.72 3.26 1.56 0.00 Australia 9.89 0.13 10.02 4.56 3.12 1.16 1.02 Argentina 8.00 2.00 10.00 2.49 4.62 0.52 0.20 Niue 8.85 1.00 9.85 4.63 0.11 2.95 0.00 Rwanda 6.80 3.00 9.80 0.54 0.00 0.01 6.44 Canada 7.77 2.00 9.77 4.10 1.50 2.10 0.00 Sierra Leone 6.72 3.00 9.72 0.46 0.01 0.02 6.06 Bosnia and Herzegovina 9.63 0.00 9.63 2.22 0.34 7.08 0.00 New Zealand 9.12 0.50 9.62 4.09 3.04 1.37 0.81 Namibia 5.87 3.75 9.62 4.35 0.48 1.30 0.35 Guyana 7.50 2.00 9.50 1.14 0.31 5.70 0.01 Nepal 7.20 2.20 9.48 1.15 0.00 0.07 0.00 Burundi 6.47 3.00 9.47 1.16 0.01 0.00 5.07 South Africa 6.96 2.50 9.46 3.93 1.17 1.15 0.75 United States 8.44 1.00 9.44 4.47 1.36 2.65 0.00 Saint Kitts and Nevis 8.93 0.50 9.43 3.98 0.18 6.00 0.10 Ecuador 4.01 5.37 9.38 2.30 0.07 1.69 0.00 Gabon 7.32 2.00 9.32 5.38 0.80 1.69 0.00 Cyprus 8.26 1.00 9.26 3.25 2.97 2.95 0.12 Brazil 6.16 3.00 9.16 3.36 0.33 2.49 0.03 Bahamas 8.16 0.60 8.76 3.99 1.55 5.27 0.23 São Tomé and Príncipe 5.82 2.92 8.74 1.12 3.40 0.83 0.00 Chile 6.55 2.00 8.55 2.03 2.59 2.16 0.04 Macedonia 5.61 2.90 8.51 2.11 1.62 2.08 0.00 Mexico 5.02 3.40 8.42 3.96 0.02 1.09 0.03 Venezuela 6.83 1.40 8.23 5.19 0.07 1.65 0.00 Uruguay 6.14 2.00 8.14 1.33 3.95 1.21 0.06 Japan 7.83 0.20 8.03 1.72 0.29 3.37 2.61 Botswana 4.96 3.00 7.96 2.56 0.04 0.00 1.88 Paraguay 6.38 1.50 7.88 3.48 0.97 1.77 0.19 Dominica 7.34 0.50 7.84 0.50 0.80 6.69 0.07 Norway 6.21 1.60 7.81 2.98 2.00 1.28 0.11 Cameroon 4.97 2.60 7.57 2.05 0.05 0.00 2.60 Antigua and Barbuda 6.76 0.46 7.22 2.67 1.70 5.04 0.09 Thailand 6.37 0.71 7.08 1.75 0.02 4.69 0.00 Burkina Faso 4.48 2.50 6.98 0.41 0.09 0.42 3.77 Barbados 6.41 0.50 6.91 2.90 0.73 3.78 0.17 Peru 2.90 4.00 6.90 2.16 0.32 0.61 0.00 Panama 5.85 1.00 6.85 3.71 0.22 1.91 0.01 Tanzania 4.75 2.00 6.75 0.57 0.02 0.15 4.51 Laos 5.73 1.00 6.73 1.42 0.03 4.35 0.00 Albania 4.58 2.10 6.68 1.61 0.94 2.30 0.02 Haiti 5.99 0.62 6.61 0.01 0.01 5.20 0.00 Côte d'Ivoire 4.48 2.00 6.48 0.61 0.33 0.05 3.55 Dominican Republic 5.76 0.65 6.41 2.69 0.14 2.92 0.01 Georgia 3.90 2.50 6.40 0.76 0.83 2.56 0.02 Philippines 4.38 2.00 6.38 1.29 0.02 2.91 0.00 Iceland 5.91 0.40 6.31 3.67 1.95 1.33 0.10 Trinidad and Tobago 5.78 0.50 6.28 3.10 0.11 2.78 0.04 Colombia 4.17 2.00 6.17 2.71 0.08 1.44 0.02 Suriname 5.19 0.90 6.09 2.00 0.13 3.26 0.05 Equatorial Guinea 5.31 0.77 6.08 0.45 4.18 0.00 0.00 Belize 5.07 1.00 6.07 3.89 0.13 1.78 0.01 China 4.21 1.70 5.91 1.50 0.15 2.51 0.23 Puerto Rico 5.47 0.28 5.75 3.68 0.34 1.35 0.05 Swaziland 5.70 0.00 5.70 1.64 0.21 0.15 3.05 Costa Rica 4.15 1.40 5.55 2.29 0.18 1.71 0.02 Lesotho 1.90 3.65 5.55 1.24 0.00 0.01 0.69 Cuba 4.41 1.10 5.51 1.48 0.05 2.94 0.01 Federated States of Micronesia 4.50 1.00 5.50 1.43 1.31 0.60 0.00 Saint Vincent and the Grenadines 4.94 0.50 5.44 2.55 0.12 3.16 0.05 Angola 3.80 1.60 5.40 1.81 1.37 1.12 0.41 Nicaragua 3.77 1.60 5.37 1.13 0.03 2.55 0.00 Bolivia 2.62 2.50 5.12 2.17 0.06 0.61 0.00 Kyrgyzstan 3.19 1.90 5.09 0.45 0.10 2.26 0.01 Zimbabwe 4.08 1.00 5.08 0.96 0.19 0.06 2.61 Liberia 3.47 1.59 5.06 0.30 0.01 3.16 0.01 Jamaica 3.50 1.50 5.00 1.49 0.11 1.80 0.10 Cape Verde 2.06 2.90 4.96 0.36 1.99 0.14 0.00 Nauru 2.33 2.50 4.83 2.24 0.08 0.00 0.00 Samoa 3.80 1.00 4.80 3.31 0.08 0.24 0.00 Cambodia 1.77 3.00 4.77 0.74 0.02 1.21 0.00 Turkmenistan 2.33 2.30 4.63 0.21 0.90 1.22 0.00 Honduras 3.08 1.40 4.48 1.29 0.04 1.87 0.00 Chad 0.38 4.00 4.38 0.23 0.01 0.02 0.15 Malta 3.85 0.42 4.27 1.79 1.45 1.86 0.15 Republic of the Congo 2.04 2.23 4.20 1.76 0.00 0.11 0.12 Kenya 1.64 2.50 4.14 0.84 0.02 0.51 0.55 Guatemala 2.43 1.60 4.03 1.12 3.92 1.20 0.05 Ethiopia 0.52 3.50 4.02 0.19 0.01 0.13 0.25 Zambia 2.35 1.50 3.85 0.42 0.01 0.27 1.62 Tonga 3.28 0.50 3.78 0.89 2.29 0.64 0.18 Vietnam 1.07 2.70 3.77 1.13 0.01 0.02 0.00 Mauritius 2.72 1.00 3.72 1.92 0.32 0.39 0.00 Kiribati 1.71 2.00 3.71 1.56 0.02 0.02 0.00 Cook Islands 3.20 0.50 3.70 0.54 1.39 3.45 0.00 Guinea-Bissau 2.58 1.10 3.68 0.24 0.66 0.53 1.75 Bahrain 3.56 0.10 3.66 1.91 0.52 1.24 0.00 El Salvador 2.61 1.00 3.61 0.88 0.04 1.57 0.00 Uzbekistan 1.64 1.90 3.54 0.28 0.19 1.30 0.00 Papua New Guinea 1.49 2.00 3.49 0.57 0.02 0.90 0.00 Gambia 2.40 0.99 3.39 0.19 0.06 0.04 2.07 Tajikistan 0.39 3.00 3.39 0.08 0.02 0.29 0.00 Central African Republic 1.65 1.70 3.35 0.21 0.02 0.03 1.37 Democratic Republic of the Congo 1.97 1.26 3.30 0.32 0.01 0.02 1.67 Malawi 1.24 2.00 3.24 0.39 0.11 0.67 0.21 Ghana 1.47 1.50 2.97 0.40 0.07 0.03 0.97 Israel 2.39 0.50 2.89 0.97 0.18 1.30 0.04 Djibouti 1.37 1.50 2.87 0.78 0.07 0.46 0.00 Mozambique 1.56 1.00 2.56 0.00 0.00 0.27 1.08 Tuvalu 1.94 0.50 2.44 0.71 0.02 0.58 0.00 Fiji 1.43 1.00 2.43 1.46 0.02 0.58 0.00 Iraq 0.20 2.21 2.41 0.07 0.00 0.13 0.00 Sudan 1.56 0.82 2.38 0.52 0.09 0.79 0.05 Lebanon 1.73 0.50 2.23 0.36 0.56 0.78 0.01 Benin 1.15 1.00 2.15 0.49 0.14 0.15 0.30 Brunei 1.76 0.25 2.01 1.67 0.02 0.05 0.00 Togo 0.99 1.00 1.99 0.43 0.32 0.06 0.22 Turkey 1.37 0.50 1.87 0.24 0.08 1.35 0.00 Mongolia 1.24 0.50 1.74 0.14 0.00 0.22 0.74 Solomon Islands 1.16 0.50 1.66 0.66 0.03 0.40 0.00 Singapore 0.55 1.00 1.55 1.45 0.25 0.40 0.00 Eritrea 0.94 0.60 1.54 0.56 0.00 0.25 0.00 Morocco 0.46 1.00 1.46 0.23 0.17 0.06 0.00 Syria 1.13 0.30 1.43 0.04 0.32 0.69 0.00 Madagascar 0.78 0.55 1.33 0.34 0.11 0.32 0.00 Tunisia 1.09 0.20 1.29 0.67 0.34 0.04 0.00 Qatar 0.85 0.40 1.25 0.04 0.11 0.73 0.01 Mali 0.54 0.50 1.04 0.07 0.00 0.01 0.46 Iran 0.02 1.00 1.02 0.02 0.00 0.00 0.00 Algeria 0.66 0.30 0.96 0.09 0.07 0.00 0.50 Oman 0.64 0.30 0.94 0.27 0.00 0.39 0.00 Vanuatu 0.43 0.50 0.93 0.46 0.19 0.19 0.00 Timor-Leste 0.36 0.50 0.86 0.30 0.01 0.00 0.00 Malaysia 0.50 0.32 0.82 0.38 0.02 0.08 0.00 Sri Lanka 0.35 0.44 0.79 0.02 0.00 0.33 0.00 Comoros 0.26 0.50 0.76 0.17 0.02 0.03 0.00 India 0.55 .20 0.75 0.06 0.02 0.05 0.00 Jordan 0.41 0.30 0.71 0.04 0.01 0.34 0.01 Senegal 0.30 0.30 0.60 0.15 0.12 0.01 0.00 Indonesia 0.06 0.50 0.59 0.06 0.00 0.00 0.00 Myanmar 0.11 0.46 0.57 0.10 0.00 0.01 0.01 Bhutan 0.22 0.33 0.55 0.21 0.00 0.00 0.00 United Arab Emirates 0.34 0.20 0.54 0.30 0.01 0.00 0.02 Afghanistan 0.00 0.50 0.50 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 Egypt 0.27 0.10 0.37 0.10 0.02 0.06 0.00 Guinea 0.26 0.10 0.36 0.14 0.02 0.06 0.00 Niger 0.09 0.25 0.34 0.05 0.01 0.03 0.00 Saudi Arabia 0.05 0.20 0.25 0.00 0.00 0.05 0.00 Bangladesh 0.00 0.20 0.20 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 Kuwait 0.00 0.17 0.17 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 Libya 0.01 0.10 0.11 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 Mauritania 0.01 0.10 0.11 0.00 0.00 0.01 0.00 Somalia 0.00 0.10 0.10 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 Pakistan 0.01 0.05 0.06 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.01 Yemen 0.00 0.02 0.02 0.00 0.00 0.01 0.00If you Irish bitchez want to borrow money then you have to accept the terms. It is your choice.
Me thinks Irish fairie boys must like that german dick up their azz, otherwise they would tell them to pull out.
Never ceases to amaze me what some people will say to make their own withered self esteem just a little bit better.
topcallingtroll...how elequently put!
Ray Ray you are such a pig. Why god does there have to be bad people like Ray Ray in the world?
It's a Yin and Yang thing....deuchbag!
Germany has every right to know what other countries are doing with German Tax Payers dollars (or DM's in this case). The idea of bailouts is a flawed one, and the German people should demand that no more money go overseas, as well as the other countries making repayments to them for previously borrowed money.
Read:
http://www.amazon.com/Simple-Wealth-Mr-Andrew-Costello/dp/1463523017/ref
Really? You mean they create money out of thin air for bailouts, all for worthless fraud that can never be repaid, and somehow in someway, fraud gives legitimacy to Germany to do anything?
Fraud is fraud. Germany shouldn't be asked to print just as much as Ireland shouldn't be asked to cut. Think about it. It's all about fraud, that the banksters are on the hook for. They demand to be bailed out through Ireland austerity and German credit.
Both Germany and Ireland are being screwed....but instead, you latch onto the idiocy, by first, thinking the whole thing is somehow legitimate.
It isn't.
Why should Germany get to demand anything, again last I checked, they aren't in control of their currency, as Germans use a foreign currency, that has no actual home....i.e. it's faker than a 3 dollar bill. There is no homeland for the Euro. It's a fascist bankster conception. Now you see why...so they can make two countries go at each other, and no one asks whether or not these debts to bankster are payable or legitimate.
What's the difference from a drug dealer using the metaphoric...free drugs until you're hooked and then demanding the heavens different from what happened to weaker Euro countries not meeting the requirements, but let in...and told all is fine....until the SHTF? Nothing. They were preyed upon, and allowed themselves to be preyed upon, but then again when the banksters control the means from which we judge ourselves, I know which side I'll put fault at ultimately.
The people of Europe weren't clamoring for a Euro. It was the bankster controlled leaders that were. Germany was threatened with war if they reunited and DIDN'T join the Euro. It was entirely a bankster conception, that was then advertised heavily enough, so that 17 countries people were fooled into voting for it. Just goes to show you, how easily advertising (aka propaganda) can change opinions based on how others want things perceived as opposed to actually allowing reality.
Glass-Steagall
A more accurate take is, German Banksters via Captured German Government Officials, are Ireland's new Masters....sort of, as German Banksters don't rule the world.
It is all just a British monetary game afterall. Much like the previous World Wars. But now so the British, and other world banksters (like us in America) get the German Banksters, to lean on the German Gov't, to do their dirty work, and pressure the Irish Gov't, along with help from Eurocrats and paid idiot pundits, to 'rule' Ireland, and 'govern' them into hell via whatever asinine cuts they want to pass in a futile fashion in an attempt to save their broken and collapsing financial system of sophistry aka monetarism (be it big K-Keynesian, Austrian, or other). Afterall all those bad and fraudulent debts have to be paid in blood, lest someone find out they are bogus, unpayable, and need to be Glass-Steagall'ed.
Germans to the Irish,
"Go get your shine box, boy!"
Irish to the Germans: I have 52 million cousins in the USA so why don't you try to figure out how to shove a Mercedes up your ass while I go enjoy a pint.
Germans to Irish: do you even know what a Mercedes is? No ? Then go drink another pint.
Sugar, we Irish have a saying, phonetically it is like this: T-ha To Mala Gwee. And you know something asswipe? That saying has been around since before the British lost to the Romans. It means you are a bag of wind. But I think you personally have a major problem with anyone Irish, and you are about to see how many of us are out there, thanks to the USA there are more Irish in the world than fucktard Brits.
Oh and Ryans and Melletts and Murphys and Kelly's were present at the surrender of the Reich in 1918, 1945, and will be again next time blowhard assholes. And just for you Ray Ray, it might have taken 1,000 years but we did beat your ass and we will do it again.
Wait a minute....The Irish beat Germany at something...really? History was never my strong suit, Thanks for the Irish perspective. You haven't been drinking have you?
Really sorry you are so upset.
Re Irish Budget given to Berlin.
Shoulda been the Irish bar tab that was given to Berlin - budget problem solved.
There are to ways: The Greek-Italian (printing money) one or the German-One (wage-dumping).
Why Berlin cannot except it's sellout via EZB without service in return?
Because many wage-, social- and annuity-dumped voters in Germany (Agenda 2010) are asking themselves, if there is any logic in this game.
The Daily Mirror is a British national daily tabloid newspaper, founded in 1903.
In 1984 the Mirror was sold to Robert Maxwell; I'm not sure who owns it now.
“Under the editorship of Piers Morgan (from October 1995 to May 2004) the paper saw a number of controversies. Morgan was widely criticised and forced to apologise for the headline ‘ACHTUNG! SURRENDER For you Fritz, ze Euro 96 Championship is over’ a day before England met Germany in a semi-final of the Euro '96 football championships.
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Irish-Daily-Mirror/109836132372420?sk=wiki
Iceland does not have a master.
Man that was fun !
Enjoy your weekend everyone.
If you don't want to toe the line, don't take the money!
"Ich bin ein Dubliner"
Time to pull in the Union Jack and lift the swastika banner.
F**k me a euro for the Daily Mirror? A paper thats best use is to read in the shit house. And to wipe ones arse with.
yawn.....i warned of the german-eu Anschluss a few days ago...i did did not expect such rapid confirmation....i am now sounding like reggie middleton :-o
I don't see how Germany could be a worse master than England has been to the Irish.
Ok... so why does Germany not allow Irish government a first look at the budget proposal?
1. Why would irish government have a look at it? They've signed away their souverignity, clearly because they were incompetent to deal with the issue of private debt, and then deal with protecting their citizens, and are nothing but a pathetic bunch of shills.
2. Damage sentiment? Since when do Irish people care? Apart from one cement truck, one protest march, and a handful beardguys that were (and still are) hopping mad, the irish chose servtitude. Ironic after such heroïc battles for independence in the last century, the iPhone generation decided it's best to volunteer for this, by not objecting against their traitorous politicians. THAT IS WHAT THE IRISH PEOPLE CHOSE, SERVTITUDE. A serf is not supposed to harbour sentiments, they're supposed to STFU, and do as they're told, because THEY THEMSELVES HAVE GIVEN AWAY THEIR SOUVERIGNITY. Most ordinairy irish have AFAIK conceded in their fate of carrying the burden, because they're of the opinion they all benefitted during the golden years of the real estate boom. Did they honestly expect that their souverignity would be magically left untouched?
It's harsh for the ones that do care but: The irish people command no respect as up yet, by not standing up for themselves, as the japanese people do not command respect by still allowing Tepco and their elite, to do what they want. That's how the world works; if you don't believe in yourself, and stand up for what you think are your rights, no one else will.
3. Though there's no association between the german government and their banks, they do have an interest there, in that Merkel tries to show the german population and industry there's some merit in walking this road of guaranteeing private debt by public servants. While that of course is pure horseshit, it's a game, where appearances are kept up, to get the real loot: The bankers want the german wealth, and total control over europe. Is Merkel Germany's Lenihan? I don't think they'll give her a chance to find out. Bravo!
As Irish wags might now be wont to say (paraphrasing the late serial conglomerater Harold Geneen), in Ireland we don’t spell “Germany” with a “J” as in Jesus, but with a “G” as in God.
nine nine nine
Ireland will be Irish, always was and always will be, that to me is one of the greatest parts of being an Irishman. We repelled the Romans, withstood the vikings, we absorbed those that came and stayed. We absorbed the British, and we were still Irish. England hates Ireland more than any other nation because we stayed Irish with all our faults through almost a thousand years of punishment and genocide that makes German treatment of Jews look high school by comparison. Ireland might play a role in the EU, but it will never be anything other than Irish. We fought the greatest empire on the planet to a standstill even after they got rid of 85% of of the population. They still retain most of Ulster as they fled to Belfast for protection, but even in Northern IRELAND the Brits know the truth, those citizens of the UK living on our soil, our island, they might be British by law but the British do not like them any more than they like creeping damp. One day the Island will be united again, and it will not take orders from either London or Berlin.
Most people who claim Irish heritage live in America. We cling to that heritage because even in America there are asshole individuals like eurogold that hate us, yet of the Nobel prize winners under the American flag most were of Irish decent. Irish can be and are among the most advanced people on the Earth, and morally they beat the fucking Brits every single contest. Flaws for certain, but the biggest flaw they have is allowing bitches like the Brits or Germans to invade their nation.
Boiltherich really needs to seek medical attention!
And this just in at the Irish Times:
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/frontpage/2011/1119/1224307824125.html
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Mr Rehn’s remarks are set out in a new account today of the events leading up the rescue, which precipitated the then government’s implosion and Fianna Fáil’s worst election result. Brian Cowen, then taoiseach, and his ministers denied for weeks there would be any rescue but the government finally applied for aid on Sunday, November 21st, three days after top IMF officials arrived in Dublin.
The account reveals that Mr Lenihan moved to step up contact with the IMF as early as the weekend of November 6th.
Officials in Brussels and Frankfurt, home of the European Central Bank, had concluded days before then that Ireland had no prospect of restoring market confidence.
Dublin resisted a bailout, however, and there was frustration in Europe and beyond that the government was not facing up to a problem which was stirring turmoil elsewhere in the euro zone. Crucial here was the increasing weakness of Anglo Irish Bank, which senior European officials saw as the “most serious global banking issue” since the Lehman Brothers bankruptcy in 2008.
Fears that Anglo might default on some of its obligations – triggering payments on credit default swap insurance contracts – led US treasury secretary Timothy Geithner to urge Europe to assert control over the situation during a G20 summit in Seoul on November 11th.
Mr Geithner made his concerns known at a meeting that night of finance ministers from the G7 industrialised nations – the US, Germany, France, Britain, Canada, Japan and Italy. The meeting followed a dinner meeting of the wider group of G20 finance ministers.
Late that night, Mr Rehn phoned Mr Lenihan from the summit and European Commission chief José Manuel Barroso phoned Mr Cowen.
Although these interventions reflected the concern of global leaders that Ireland’s position was increasingly unsustainable and risked triggering contagion in markets, the government continued to assert that there would be no rescue.
Mr Geithner intervened for a second time when Ireland’s negotiation with the EU-IMF-European Central Bank “troika” was drawing to a close on November 27th. In a teleconference with the G7 ministers, he argued forcefully against any move to impose losses on the holders of senior bonds in Ireland’s banks. Two sources said it was only then that the IMF, which argued it was feasible to tackle senior bondholders, agreed to take the matter off the agenda.
Irish negotiators had pressed for “burden-sharing” with senior bank bondholders but they met immediate resistance from the ECB.
The greatest screwing any nation ever got and I include Iraq in that statement.
This was forced upon Ireland and the Irish had nothing to say about it at the time. This was all about making sure CDS were never triggered, and I say the Irish people have not yet been heard from, but they will be, mark my words when the whole crapping stinking ediface comes down it will be an Irishman holding the first stick.
Aside from all the nationalism on this thread, when it comes to pure economics one has to ask why American products are not competitive with European. One and probably the biggest is the VAT. Americans have no VAT and no sales tax at the federal level. Our dollar is now cheap, we have public assistance but nothing like Eurowelfare. I had a CAT scan at the VA facility here in September, it was a Philips machine in spite of US regulations to "buy American." Reason: GE charges twice as much for a CAT scanner than Phillips of Holland. And GE machines have breakdown issues and software issues Phillips does not. We invented CAT scan machines. But it is the VAT that makes the difference. Europe adds tax to American products to compensate for no VAT that leaves our products utterly uncompetitive. Their tax laws are killing our manufacturers. Fine I say, we should just impose equal taxes upon their products. Solved. America is the worst case scenario of a nation self destructing. Unfortunately for you gold bugs it will not be a matter of he with the most PM's wins, because you will be horribly disappointed in the value of your metals post collapse. But, cheer up, America like Ireland is not going away any time soon, a world war is on the way and we will win it, Pyrrhic though our win might be. Look on the bright side, you will either die or if you live be hated and targeted by those you think you own. But you will be alive.
Germany wants to transfer its physical gold back to Germany, same as Hugo Chavez.
http://www.bild.de/politik/inland/edelmetalle-gold/bundesbank-lagert-es-...
http://www.goldreporter.de/bundesrechnungshof-fordert-zahlung-der-deutsc...
It's not "Germany" who wants to be master – the population itself suffers beyond this government.
A small elite of export-industrialists, their shareholders and financiers want to dominate the rest of Europe. They are all worried about their fresh assets generated at costs of wage-, social – pension dumped German employees (in the last "XXL-years" real wages shrinked again by 7 Percent – watch FAZ: http://is.gd/KveOMx / the main-reason for this euro-disaster) and credit-financed consumption-huts in South-Europe.
Assets, which were already double-saved by the German taxpayers, after losses were socialised twice within the last 36 month.
This small elite has no scruple to commit the biggest sellout of their own people ever to ensure its own sinecures and assets.
The Germans are in need of help - not the Greece nor Italians or Spanish.
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