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Israel Accuses Russia Of Supporting Iran Terror Organizations, Says Iran Has Enough Material For 4 Nuclear Bombs

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Just because 3 US aircraft carriers in the Arabian Gulf are not enough, Israel's Lt General Benny Gantz hit the airwaves earlier today, with some additional pot stirring, and some fresh allegations which will hardly appeal to Russia, who is already using Syria as a military ship docking station (and allegedly supplying arms to the local regime). And while his statement that Iran has "enough material to create 4 nuclear bombs" may be debated, what is more concerning is his allegation that "[Iran terror organizations are] supported by Syria, Iran and even Russia." What next: the Admiral Kuznetsov aircraft carrier floating gingerly between the various US CVNs in the region just keeping everyone on their toes in international waters?

From the Israel Defense Forces blog:

Yesterday, the IDF chief of staff, Lt. Gen. Benny Gantz spoke at the annual Herzliya Conference and addressed Israel’s security situation. The following are the main excerpts from his speech:

“Iran is working towards military nuclear capabilities and can be fully armed within a year… Iran is a global, regional and Israeli threat and problem.”

 

“[Terror organizations are] supported by Syria, Iran and even Russia who continues sending ammunition to Syria. The Middle East is currently arming more than any other region in the world, and we are the target of all this ammunition.”

 

“Every region in Israel is currently under threat… our enemies are trying to create a military system that skips Israel’s defense capabilities and directly targets the strategic depth of the State of Israel.”

 

“The world must continue isolating Iran… the pressure and financial sanctions should be continued as they are beginning to sprout results, even within Iran… We continue building powerful, impressive, trustworthy, prepared, and well-trained military capabilities, and we must be ready to employ them, if the need arises.”

 

“The IDF greatly strengthened during the last few years and previous gaps have been matched. It is crucial that we maintain this trend for future obstacles aren’t any less challenging. We need as much accurate, continuous power as possible that will bring us to an undisputed, fast victory over our enemies.”

Today, following the chief of staff’s speech, IDF Head of Military Intelligence, Maj. Gen. Aviv Kochavi spoke at the conference as well:

“Iran has enough material to create four nuclear bombs. It continues developing such material and claims that it is doing so for peaceful and civilian purposes.”

 

“Iran is nearly capable of acquiring nuclear weapons. It is not dependent on additional development but rather a matter of decision.”

 

“The enemy is disappearing from the battle field, and if in the past a company commander would look through binoculars at the battle field and see the enemy, today against Lebanon or Gaza we will not see anything. Every tenth house in Lebanon serves as a missile storage facility or a rocket launching site.”

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Thu, 02/02/2012 - 10:18 | Link to Comment akuacumen
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Somebody needs to put down the pipe. Whatever they are smoking.

Thu, 02/02/2012 - 10:27 | Link to Comment VanillAnalyst
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Bwahahah, the Russians put a friggin ski jump on the end of their aircraft carrier, brilliant!

NASA spends millions developing the space pen, the Russians use pencils, beware these people.

Thu, 02/02/2012 - 10:56 | Link to Comment MaggieL
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The space pen story is an urban legend. 

 

NASA never approached Paul Fisher to develop a pen, nor did Fisher receive any government funding for the pen's development. Fisher invented it independently, and then asked NASA to try it. After the introduction of the AG7 Space Pen, both the American and Soviet (later Russian) space agencies adopted it.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Pen

 

And the Royal Navy invented the ski-jump ramp. 

Thu, 02/02/2012 - 11:13 | Link to Comment Badabing
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Don’t know what the problem is with Israel. Can’t they just march in circles around Iran while blowing on trumpets?  

Thu, 02/02/2012 - 12:54 | Link to Comment knukles
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Awesome.....

Thu, 02/02/2012 - 13:57 | Link to Comment Comay Mierda
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cant wait for the false flag attack. it will prob look like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uvd91OU_Jbo

June should be an interesting month

Thu, 02/02/2012 - 14:27 | Link to Comment Spirit Of Truth
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So the Israelis are crazy for pointing a finger at the sweet, innocent, innocuous Russians and the world must be on guard for a "Zionist" false flag attack? (Let me guess....like 9/11?)

Truly this world is totally and hopelessly deceived at this point.

http://thespiritoftruth.blogspot.com/2010/09/russia-was-behind-911.html

Israel is a tiny island of democracy and human rights surrounded by rabidly antisemitic, tyrannical foes that have amassed the means for the "final solution" and some folk here are rooting for the Nazis.

As for the Russians, while Hitler's forces were "brown shirts", Putin's forces are "black shirts".  They know what they're planning and their fingers are deeply embedded in the forces gathering around Armageddon (Mount Megiddo which is in northern Israel).  The stage for the final battle between Good and Evil is almost completely set.

http://thespiritoftruth.blogspot.com/2009/11/fall-of-berlin-wall-rise-of...

Choose sides carefully.

Thu, 02/02/2012 - 14:34 | Link to Comment MobBarley
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When you say 'Spirit of Truth', you're talking about

something like Jack Daniels, right? Because only

those drunk off their asses could refrain from busting

out laughing at such obvious Luciferian drivel coming

from the rabinous gaping maw of effeminate bullshit

cantered in the middle of your bottomless pit of a face.

Can't wait to see you go into that there LAKE OF FIRE, buddy.

Gonna be one hell of ahow.

 

 

Thu, 02/02/2012 - 14:53 | Link to Comment Spirit Of Truth
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Your logic and attention to argumentative detail is, well, something to behold.  Many a Party official would be proud.

Thu, 02/02/2012 - 11:10 | Link to Comment GMadScientist
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Spoken like someone who doesn't understand the hazards presented by the accumulation of graphite shavings in an enclosed space.

Thu, 02/02/2012 - 13:30 | Link to Comment LowProfile
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Ever hear of the mechanical pencil?  Now you have.

Thu, 02/02/2012 - 13:08 | Link to Comment ElvisDog
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NASA spends millions developing the space pen, the Russians use pencils, beware these people.

You don't know what you're talking about. Russia space technology is essentially unchanged from the 1960's. They basically had a design for a rocket that they knew worked and just kept on making it. Not unlike the ancient Romans who when they built a building or dam or whatever and it didn't fall down they would just copy it.

In a way, your pencil analogy is accurate in that the Russian space program has never evolved much from pencil-era technology.

Thu, 02/02/2012 - 13:49 | Link to Comment CrockettAlmanac.com
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And yet Russia can send men into space today and the US can not. Oh, to have a moon base...

Thu, 02/02/2012 - 10:27 | Link to Comment trav7777
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these guys really are desert nomad war tribe...jfc, all they can conceive is this old testament either part of the Nation or else ENEMY to be utterly annihilated.

Thu, 02/02/2012 - 13:00 | Link to Comment lincolnsteffens
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I object to your description of the USA in that manner! Whoops, you weren't referring to some other nation, were you? I guess you could be referring to Russia in stead, right? No, no, I mean uh,Turkey, no that's wrong, that was before. Oh, I know you mean the British Empire. That's it, you mean that other war like Empire.

Thu, 02/02/2012 - 10:29 | Link to Comment knukles
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Gotta be true.
Dude's speaking at the Godzilla Conference chairing the Gog and Megog panel.

Just click your heels and disappear in a flash!

 

Keynes wae right....ain't gonna have to worry about the deficits...

Thu, 02/02/2012 - 10:32 | Link to Comment DogSlime
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They have Muslamic Ray Gams too!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeU6AIxU5BE

Sorry - childish post, but probably no more stupid than the bullshit being put out by TPTB regarding Iran.

Thu, 02/02/2012 - 12:52 | Link to Comment knukles
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I look at it this way...
If I harangued about TPTB crap at work, there'd be no credibility, for the normal every day ordinary bond geek (And a hearty welcome Billy Gross.. you missed 3 great years of long bond performance dipshit.  And coulda by now had a pile of gold indexed bonds in your position, but oh, no...  Jesus.) doesn't believe a fucking bit of the pabulum.  Our equity brethren however, are sill caught up in the shite, as that's all they know and are worth anymore, anyhow.  (Keep on regurgitating that CFA horseshit.  Your client's gonna be firing your ass real soon, anyway.  In fact, just might be your last year to say if it ain't a great fucking bonus, you'll leave 'cause soon there'll be nowhere left hiring.)
Either be fired or put on long term mental disability.

No.  It's not childish.  Cynical dark humor seems to be the most effective medium these days to communicate with non-believers.  It places the seed otherwise rejected out of hand.  You know, that contempt prior to investigation syndrome.

Thu, 02/02/2012 - 11:15 | Link to Comment RiverRoad
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Calm down Israel.  Nobody's nuking you.  Look where the fallout would blow.  Ain't gonna happen.  Precisely why Japan made such a nice target.

Thu, 02/02/2012 - 13:28 | Link to Comment mvsjcl
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Japan also made a case study on what can happen if one simply ignores the data.

Thu, 02/02/2012 - 14:18 | Link to Comment CrockettAlmanac.com
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Japan is also a case study of what can happen when sanctions are imposed.

Thu, 02/02/2012 - 13:43 | Link to Comment Max UK
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In fact, why would the Russians worry about Israeli concerns anyway....

 

Who was it who was arming and traing Georgian forces leading up to Georgia's attack on its breakaway regions in 2008?

Who was arming and training Georgians to attack & kill Russian peacekeepers?

 

And who is probably still there helping the Georgians prepare for round two?

 

You betcha!

Thu, 02/02/2012 - 15:41 | Link to Comment earleflorida
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and why was america arming and training al Qaeda in afghanistan under osama bin laden's leadership --- working hand-n-hand with the Taliban? This USSR war with Afghanistan in the 80's/ early 90's was a covert operation implicitly concocted by CIA Chief Casey, ordered-up by the U.S.& MIC's ,... no? 

Russia people will never forget --- Putin won't let them forget. Beware of the grizzly! 

http://wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Qaeda

http://wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_war_in_Afghanistan

http://www.newsone.com/newsone-original/casey-gave-mccalla/cia-osama-bin...

jmo

Thu, 02/02/2012 - 14:13 | Link to Comment Zymurguy
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Ever heard the story of the scorpion and the frog?

If Iran operated on logical principles I don't think we'd be talking so much about them.

Fri, 02/03/2012 - 05:40 | Link to Comment Element
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Low-yield plumes don't go high enough to travel very far, especially when delivered in lay-down mode or shallow burial.

When this was actually tested in Nevada's desert the vast majority of the fallout from low-yield and low-altitude, or else ground-bursts, travelled less than 10 to 12 miles.

Only the high-yield plumes go high enough and spread out widely enough to travel across whole countries and regions with significant radiation fallout within neighbouring states.

That would not be the case here.

Israel would get almost all of it, and most of the West bank some orders of magnitude less.  South Lebanon, western Jordan, and southern Syria might cop some of it, but at much lower intensity than in Israel itself within visual range of the explosion site.

A low-yeild A-bomb attack on Israel would be highly effective and highly radioactive, for a couple of months (and the IDF know this).

Thu, 02/02/2012 - 13:17 | Link to Comment lincolnsteffens
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Gosh, if you were Iran and someone was squeezing your balls and you couldn't defeat them wouldn't you try some sneaky shit to retaliate. I'd pretend to give way early in the attack phase and wait for my opportunity to kill the fuckers when they weren't looking.

Asymmetrical warfare dudes. Iran has had plenty of time to position their agents to strike the interests of the "Western Alliance"  and their proxies where ever it hurts the most. Motives on all sides are top secret. Maybe the world oligarchy wants the mess to intensify globally. In the words of Bob Dylan "He's only a pawn in their game."

Thu, 02/02/2012 - 11:09 | Link to Comment DCFusor
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Yup, no way this could be the usual fear-mongering governments and other powerful entities engage in constantly to keep themselves in power and "needed".  Couldn't happen.  I'm sure it's just as legit as taking away our civil rights using a few guys flying airplanes into buildings as an excuse to create a police state.

Fri, 02/03/2012 - 03:02 | Link to Comment matrix2012
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yeap, staging the in-house collateral damages then pointing the fingers to some external forces like the phantom aikido, iirg, red agents etc fit well the cartel agendas.

flying high and great the fake flags constitute the excellent expertises of those giant xxx-agencies!  In propping up the wrongs they need to take away the rights at first. 

all those poor souls who are falling down along the ways are inevitable collateral damages, the expendables... sacrificial lambs are called in to bestow the sanctification glory!

just allow some time to see it works... again

Thu, 02/02/2012 - 11:19 | Link to Comment StreetMoney21
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How long are we going to listen to the gas can drag coming out of Israel? I still remember the BS story from Colin Powell about chemical weapons trucks driving through the neighborhoods of Iraq making nerve gas. I'm still waiting for one to be found. Playing the victim is getting a little old as we know it is Israel that uses assassins to kill people in other counties.

This conflict is al about the petro-dollar as Iran is now trading oil for something other than the US dollar. Time is running out as other countrys will so do the same thing.

Thu, 02/02/2012 - 13:50 | Link to Comment HungrySeagull
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I remember that day.

I also recall we aint found shit. (Spaceballs)

Thu, 02/02/2012 - 13:55 | Link to Comment CrockettAlmanac.com
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I watched Powell's speech as well. The news anchor who began speaking immediately after said in a resigned tone, "Now anyone who can be convinced of Iraq's intentions has been." In other words, only crazy people disbelieved Powell even though it was later shown that all 29 points in his presentation were false.

 

When I, the People, learn to remember, when I, the People, use the lessons of yesterday and no longer forget who robbed me last year, who played me for a fool—then there will be no speaker in all the world say the name: "The People," with any fleck of a sneer in his voice or any far-off smile of derision. The mob—the crowd—the mass—will arrive then.


--Carl Sandburg
Thu, 02/02/2012 - 12:39 | Link to Comment smb12321
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I love the posts that bring out the crazies who back-slap the likes of Iran, Syria & Russia while bashing the US & Israel. And don't forget all those nefarious global conspiracies by Zionists (PC for dirty Jew). Iran is much more likely to use their "peaceful" products (does anyone except ZH posters believe this?) as a threat along with their  terrorism.  Although the maniacs in Tehran know an Israeli strike is suicide, religious fantaticism can yield strange results.

Thu, 02/02/2012 - 12:52 | Link to Comment alien-IQ
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You are obviously suffering from the delusional and misguided belief that the interests of Israel and America are one and the same.

You may have been able to float that bullshit and have it go unquestioned a few years ago...but those days are gone gone gone. That much should be painfully obvious to you by now.

Israel has been exposed. It's true colors put on full display for the world to see...and the world sees one unmistakable truth: Israel is the global enemy of any and all people who want peace and coexistence.

Your days are numbered. Get used to it.

Thu, 02/02/2012 - 13:23 | Link to Comment pods
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I think that Israel's jump the shark moment can be traced to a picture.  Remember the one where all the cute little kids were signing bombs to deliver to the poor little children of Lebanon?

That was the moment where it turned.

pods

Thu, 02/02/2012 - 13:42 | Link to Comment alien-IQ
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For me, the murder of Rachel Corrie was the last straw. That's when I crossed the Rubicon.

Thu, 02/02/2012 - 14:18 | Link to Comment CrockettAlmanac.com
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If the Liberty doesn't do it for folks then Jonathan Pollard should have. With friends like Israel who needs enemies?

Thu, 02/02/2012 - 19:02 | Link to Comment smb12321
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Get serious.  The only reason posters froth at the mention of Israel is Judaism.  It's inexplicable in any other rationale.  I don't have to carry water for Israel. I opposed Gulf War I & II because they were not in the interests of America.   Heres the score:  On one side is a state that routinely changes governments via elections, where hundreds of thousands demonstrate peacefully and is Western-oriented.  On the other you have semi-feudal states without property right who excel is religious  BS, authoritarianism, ruling for life and about as much liberty as the USSR in Putin's (another ZH poster boy apparently) hey days.

I mean, if you don't like Israel and you do like Iran and company, fine.  Just don't hide behind all the twaddle.

 

Thu, 02/02/2012 - 16:27 | Link to Comment earleflorida
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ref: "Iran's 'Tudeh', Communist Part" & "Operation TPBEDAMN"

http://wikipedia.org/wiki/Tudeh_Party_of_Iran

Ps. i use wikipedia for quick reference and simplification of its pragmatic format for further research

Iran is not a, "enemy of our enemies - is a friend of ours" --- simply said,... not in the Iranian cultural/ philosophical language, period! 

Ps2. Putin hates all that Joseph [The STEEL Man]
 
Stalin stood for - what stalin had done to the russian empire state, and its people - stalin was a mass murderer of his own unique kind, and his only love was his Georgia 

Ps3. Putin is a fair, intellectual and pragmatic leader with only his mother country's well-being held firmly in his heart. He is not from the old Russian mindset, but a moderate progressive.

jmo

Thu, 02/02/2012 - 10:20 | Link to Comment Robot Traders Mom
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Only if the Amerikan people weren't so stupid and oblivious to this bullshit...

Thu, 02/02/2012 - 10:23 | Link to Comment HelluvaEngineer
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Israel STFU or do your own dirty work!

Thu, 02/02/2012 - 10:31 | Link to Comment The Limerick King
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If only we all knew the score

That the best market pump is from war

Then we might see

That The Powers That Be

Have some chaos and mayhem in store

Thu, 02/02/2012 - 10:36 | Link to Comment Cognitive Dissonance
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Very nice Limerick King.

When all else fails, go to war. Works everytime, if only to distract the hamsters from their chores.

Thu, 02/02/2012 - 10:59 | Link to Comment The Limerick King
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Much appreciated CD...as always.

Thu, 02/02/2012 - 10:39 | Link to Comment Scalaris
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You Sir are the next Edward Lear; a luminary of your domain.

Mad props.

Thu, 02/02/2012 - 11:04 | Link to Comment The Limerick King
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Thanks Scalaris!

 

I'm a mere shadow of Lear

My inspiration is fear

Allow me to say

I long for the day

When all that inspires me is beer!

Thu, 02/02/2012 - 11:32 | Link to Comment Scalaris
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I myself am partial to whiskey

Although it can be a bit risky

But reading your prose

My fantasy grows

And dare I say makes me a bit frisky

 

I had to do it.

Thu, 02/02/2012 - 13:23 | Link to Comment lincolnsteffens
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Good one L M!

Thu, 02/02/2012 - 10:20 | Link to Comment Id fight Gandhi
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Don't trust Israel.

Thu, 02/02/2012 - 10:26 | Link to Comment cossack55
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One also cannot trust the damn Russkies now that the Soviets are history.  Nothing better than a good enemy.

Thu, 02/02/2012 - 11:19 | Link to Comment GMadScientist
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Ruskies, yes. Putin: hell no.

Thu, 02/02/2012 - 11:24 | Link to Comment john39
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don't buy the NWO anti putin propaganda... he is sticking it to zionism:

http://youtu.be/YH633ei03_o

Thu, 02/02/2012 - 12:20 | Link to Comment Hugh_Jorgan
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You got it boy... an ex-Soviet KGB Colonel can definitely be trusted. After all, he hates Jews! Right!?

Thu, 02/02/2012 - 12:45 | Link to Comment smb12321
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The lack of intellectual dishonesty on this board is astounding.  Posters who babble about Obama and the loss of liberty defend the likes of Putin or Iranian crazies. I worked for the Ron Paul campaign in '08 and we had the same problem - crazy conspiracy antisemitics whose real agenda had nothing to do with economics.  They simply wanted a pure Christian" nation although their savior was a devout Jew. 

Thu, 02/02/2012 - 13:48 | Link to Comment Cathartes Aura
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thus is the nature of God-followers, for their gods are jealous and petulant, need absolutes and worshiping (warship-ing?) - the childish whining in the piece above - DAAAAAAAAD, make IRAN STOP!! - reveals the lack of maturity required to be self-governing, self-reliant, self-aware. . .

it just points its finger and screams the tantrum. . .bully.

Thu, 02/02/2012 - 14:56 | Link to Comment alien-IQ
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The "anti-semite" card is played out and tired. The perpetual use of it as your only form of defense against criticism of atrocities committed by that nasty little apartheid nation have rendered the word, and those that use it, a fucking joke.

After expulsion from over 200 places in the course of 2000 years...the question must be asked: Is the entire world "anti-semitic"...or is there a good and justifiable reason why you get chased out of every place on earth?

Thu, 02/02/2012 - 19:08 | Link to Comment smb12321
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Well, at least you're honest about your bigotry (thanks).  Most try an end run - it's really about Zionism or the poor, nice Palestinians or some other drivel that nobody believes. The fact that someone can rationally hold pogroms, expulsions and slaughter over centuries as "OK" because "everyone does it" says it all. 

Thu, 02/02/2012 - 11:28 | Link to Comment frostfan
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Wow.  Can't define the commenters better than the above scoreboard where people trust Russians more than Israelis.  Good luck in the business world, amigos where of course those Russians just have halos over their heads and are PURE ANGELS HAHA.

Thu, 02/02/2012 - 12:48 | Link to Comment smb12321
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Thanks  -  for a few minutes reading these posts I doubted my sanity until I realized it's all driven by hatred for Jews (in public they say Zionists). Somehow, no matter the subject, commentators eventually get around to evil Israel and US and nice Russia, Iran & the former Libya.

Thu, 02/02/2012 - 13:53 | Link to Comment Cathartes Aura
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"smb" - small minded boy?  you can learn more about how the world is being manipulated, widen your perspective, find your own voice - or you can just parrot the megaphoney - but know that both are your own choices.

Thu, 02/02/2012 - 19:12 | Link to Comment smb12321
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Yeah, I just got a message from the mother ship warning me about the nefarious manipulation of world events by the Brigate of Red Illuminati.   It's been quite successful since scores of folks view history in terms of dark, sinister conspiracies instead of the irrational actions of humans.  

Thu, 02/02/2012 - 22:44 | Link to Comment Cathartes Aura
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indeed, it can be tempting to go with the "everyone's a fkking moron in _________ (multiple choice: govt., police, Wall Street, etc.)" and continue to believe that the bumbling of simple humans is all that holds up the world. . .

but history shows there are peoples behind events, guiding the show; and random idiocy is present, but usually at the "lower levels" of existence.

gots to go now, the beam back to my craft is callin'. . .

Thu, 02/02/2012 - 14:05 | Link to Comment frostfan
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SMB,

 

Think of it this way.  

This place is all they got.

No matter what they say.  

Thu, 02/02/2012 - 10:28 | Link to Comment xela2200
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And God gave on to thee them the power of whining, so that they could get others to do their fighting.

Thu, 02/02/2012 - 10:55 | Link to Comment Troy Ounce
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Panetta on "Face The Nation": "Iran is NOT developing nuclear weapons."

http://troyounce.blogspot.com/2012/01/open-secret-panetta-admits-iran-no... (video)

From the horses mouth, so STFU

Thu, 02/02/2012 - 13:28 | Link to Comment lincolnsteffens
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Who the hell knows the truth? Could be just disinformation. Before WW2 we were squeezing the Japs balls and they were making nice diplomatic noises precisely when zeros were headed to Pearl.

Thu, 02/02/2012 - 13:52 | Link to Comment HungrySeagull
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Along with a Battleship supported invasion fleet.

Fishermen in mid pacific discovered them via radio and told the FBI who told them be quiet, go back on the water.

I sure hope to God that our Fire Control is awake 24/7.

Thu, 02/02/2012 - 11:26 | Link to Comment w a l k - a w a y
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left/right -- democrat/republican

arab/jew, etc., etc. etc.

 

@ Id fight Gandhi

Don't trust Israel.

 

(and others on this and related threads)

A couple of articles worth considering, perhaps.

 

Totalitarian/Fascist Regimes In America, Israel, England, And Iran All Want World War III

 

A Game As Old As History: The Globalist Hand Behind The Iranian Mullahs

Thu, 02/02/2012 - 13:02 | Link to Comment i-dog
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Exactly.

Let's look at the pre-match stats:

Iran ... 4 [possible] nukes, probably, some time in the future, maybe. Have signed the NPA treaty and complied with IAEA inspections. Both they and the former head of the CIA (current US Secretary of Defense) say they don't have any, or any intention of developing any.

USA ... 6,000 nukes now; have used them before; are still builing more, and would love to use them again.

Israel ... 600 nukes now, developed in secret with French assistance. Won't sign any NPA treaties or agree to any inspections.

Exactly who is the problem here?!

If Iran iwould be such a danger to the whole planet if they ever acquired 1 or 4 nukes, then why the fuck have the US and Israel squandered gazillions of taxpayer dollars building about 7,000 of the fucking things!?! Huh ... Are they planning on destroying about 2,000 other planets?? WTF!?! ... Is there anybody sane out there?

Thu, 02/02/2012 - 13:54 | Link to Comment HungrySeagull
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We used to have much more as did the USSR.

There is a set of rail tracks not far from Little Rock where they had made plans to deploy a Rail Based Missile System which apparently did not come about.

However what do I know? I've only see a special rail car from time to time a while back.

Thu, 02/02/2012 - 14:30 | Link to Comment Zymurguy
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I think it has to do with the disposition of the country you are speaking of.  Lots of "relative relativity"... some think the U.S. is the largest terrorist nation on the planet.

But the disposition... does Iran send support, food, etc. to areas of crisis/disaster?  Is it ruled by a fanatical dictator?  Does it openly support terrorism?

I don't think Israel or the U.S. are right in everything they do.  I firmly believe they go to great lengths to undermine other sovereigns for their own interest and fight many battles via proxy.  But I don't believe for one minute that Israel is some monster of a nation out there... certainly not when compared to the likes of Iran.

Should we be supporting Israel as we have for decades?  I dunno.  Do we tend to support those nations that defend their citizens freedoms and try to promote prosperity and strive to be a nation of laws???  Yes.

So I'm not trying to define Israel as some chosen nation or by stating that they are somehow the breeding ground of some conspiratorial Zionist/Jew World Ruling Overlords... I'm simply supporting them based upon the manner in which their citizens are left to pursue happiness and the government is there to protect their freedoms.

Thu, 02/02/2012 - 14:53 | Link to Comment john39
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what about the rights of the palestinians, displaced by israeli colonization... herded into open air pens... deprived of trade, freedom, medical treatment and basic human dignity?   Israel is no democracy, it is a colonial parasite that tramples on the rights of others... which blackmails and attacks anyone who points out the obvious.

Thu, 02/02/2012 - 15:44 | Link to Comment Zymurguy
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Good points no doubt john39...

I'm not an expert on the issue of Israel and the Palestinian people.  I do know that history is filled with one nation invading another and at times retaining possession of their land, placing the indigenous peoples on reservations and committing those acts you mentioned.  Two wrongs don't make a right so it doesn't excuse anyone for their actions of the past.

The key is to ammend your ways and seek peace.  Isreael and the Palestinian people need to put away the rockets and figure something out.

Fri, 02/03/2012 - 08:23 | Link to Comment ross81
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you don't seem to understand though that it's not a question of both sides "sitting down around the table". Israel has all the weapons, all the power and pumps out pretty much all the propaganda. It wants all the land as well, hence the never ending settlements built on stolen Arab lands. Stolen, as in a bunch of Zionist crazies or IDF (or both) turning up one day and ordering women and children out under threat of violence.  The Palestinians are an occupied people, simple as. Why the hell should they negotiate anything when they have right on their side?

Thu, 02/02/2012 - 10:21 | Link to Comment williambanzai7
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USS KEYNES

Thu, 02/02/2012 - 10:23 | Link to Comment Id fight Gandhi
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Isn't like 1 or 1 1/2 US aircraft carriers bigger than the entire Iranian air force?

Thu, 02/02/2012 - 13:16 | Link to Comment TruthInSunshine
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LMFAO, wb7.

 

I thought this was a 'Beyond Infinity' class aircraft carrier?

I do believe you need a Krugman-esque propulsion system on that bad boy. Can you somehow show an engine room where Federal Reserve Notes/Asswipes are shoveled into the boiler to produce copious amounts of steam?

And where is the Uranus or Mars Defense Shield? That bad boy is easy prey for Uranusian Vulcan Craft and Martian von Mises Predator drones that Krugman has prophetically warned us all about so many times.

 

Thu, 02/02/2012 - 10:24 | Link to Comment cossack55
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I assume the chopper is loaded with FRN's.

Thu, 02/02/2012 - 10:34 | Link to Comment MsCreant
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I was thinking a printer going full speed on deck or a few bills splashing up in the wake would have been a nice additional touch. After all, it is supposed to be a "destroyer." 

Admiral Bernanke: "Deploy the Fiat."

Rest of the world: "Incoming, ahhhhhhhhh!"

 

Thu, 02/02/2012 - 10:38 | Link to Comment cossack55
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Admiral TheBernank:  "Damn the torpedos, full speed printing ahead!!!"

Thu, 02/02/2012 - 10:42 | Link to Comment Uncle Remus
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Admiral TheBernank:  "Damn the debt ceiling, full speed printing ahead!!!"

There, fixed it.

Thu, 02/02/2012 - 10:52 | Link to Comment MsCreant
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I wonder if it is really spelled "debt sealing."

Thu, 02/02/2012 - 11:18 | Link to Comment RiverRoad
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+1

Thu, 02/02/2012 - 11:07 | Link to Comment Taint Boil
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I was thinking a printer going full speed .......

 

Full speed ahead with the ink jet ….. wait, is it a Lexmark printer? Forget it, the cartridge will turn itself off and you’ll have to buy another at 10,000% mark-up.

Thu, 02/02/2012 - 11:20 | Link to Comment Silver Dreamer
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The ship should be shaped like a huge Xerox machine, and then the airplanes would take off from the paper tray.  The captain would be up top frantically pressing the "attack/print" button.

Thu, 02/02/2012 - 10:28 | Link to Comment zilverreiger
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I see bens hullacopter, but wheres ben?

Thu, 02/02/2012 - 10:30 | Link to Comment williambanzai7
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He's in the ink cartridge priming station.

Thu, 02/02/2012 - 11:12 | Link to Comment The Limerick King
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The USS Keynes is on route

With printers and planes prepped to shoot

We'll make you feel great

With the debt we create

While the wealth of your nation we loot

Thu, 02/02/2012 - 11:49 | Link to Comment TheFourthStooge-ing
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Par excellence, your highnesty. I've never before seen such an elegant and succinct description of Pox Americana.

 

Thu, 02/02/2012 - 10:31 | Link to Comment Uncle Remus
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Shouldn't there be pallets of fiat on the catapult?

Thu, 02/02/2012 - 10:53 | Link to Comment williambanzai7
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That's a good idea.

 

USS KEYNES (FRNs ON DECK)

Thu, 02/02/2012 - 11:07 | Link to Comment tarsubil
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More helicopters!

Thu, 02/02/2012 - 11:22 | Link to Comment Silver Dreamer
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Change the jets into folded FRNs? LOL

Thu, 02/02/2012 - 12:59 | Link to Comment Arthor Bearing
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Dimon smoking a cigar rolled with $100 bills

Thu, 02/02/2012 - 16:05 | Link to Comment Uncle Remus
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Oooohhh yeah. Weaponized origami - on steroids. Makes sense, we're trying to make our economy just like the Japanese; The Lost Decade on Steroids - The Bernanke Years.

Thu, 02/02/2012 - 10:36 | Link to Comment MsCreant
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I was three minutes behind you above. Hope you are having a good morning UR. 

Thu, 02/02/2012 - 10:41 | Link to Comment Uncle Remus
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I are, thank you. And to you as well.

Thu, 02/02/2012 - 11:01 | Link to Comment Global Hunter
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the pallets of money on the deck were a fantastic touch

Thu, 02/02/2012 - 11:11 | Link to Comment resurger
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My new desktop wallpaper

Thu, 02/02/2012 - 13:55 | Link to Comment HungrySeagull
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Ugh, now I have headache. It's just wrong!

Thu, 02/02/2012 - 14:33 | Link to Comment Zymurguy
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The nuclear powered printer spews beneath the waterline provides the propulsion... all ahead "Ludacris Speed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

Thu, 02/02/2012 - 10:22 | Link to Comment holdbuysell
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"“Iran is working towards military nuclear capabilities and can be fully armed within a year… Iran is a global, regional and Israeli threat and problem.”"

Well, that seals it. War within a year.

Thu, 02/02/2012 - 10:54 | Link to Comment fuu
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Hasn't Iran been within a year of military capable nukes for about a decade now?

Thu, 02/02/2012 - 12:03 | Link to Comment TheFourthStooge-ing
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fuu accurately noted:

Hasn't Iran been within a year of military capable nukes for about a decade now?

The war girls are being cute with their propaganda. It is estimated that, if Iran withdrew from the Nuclear Non-proliferation Treaty and kicked out all IAEA inspectors, it would take them at least a year to develop a functional fission device. It would take them even longer to develop one small enough to be deployed on any of their missiles.

What it all means is that the war girls want you to forget that as long as IAEA inspectors are in Iran, there is no atomic threat.

 

Thu, 02/02/2012 - 12:13 | Link to Comment fuu
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I recall reading yesterday that IAEA people just wrapped up 2 days of high level meetings in Iran and that they have an agreement for furthur cooperation.

I don't have time to look right now but perhaps someone could find out the last time the IAEA had high level talks with Israel.

Thu, 02/02/2012 - 14:14 | Link to Comment Cathartes Aura
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a quick look, apparently September 2009 IAEA urges Israel to allow inspections - with predictable response - and Aug 2010 Israel refuses again, pointing & whining about Iran

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikgLMm-iKqM

Egypt called for inspections in Sept. 2011. . .and the show continues.

(I realise facetious, but replied nonetheless)

Thu, 02/02/2012 - 14:49 | Link to Comment fuu
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Good info thanks.

Thu, 02/02/2012 - 12:08 | Link to Comment JimBowie1958
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Yeah, kind of like we have been within 7 years of not being able to save the planet from one thing or another for the last 40 years.

That hype formula is pretty simple, straight forward and effective with a gullible public that is not getting oppsing sources of information.

Thu, 02/02/2012 - 12:30 | Link to Comment Hugh_Jorgan
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No, we have been warned every year that that Iran would have a nuke in a few years. Oh, and that because of their religious zealotry they would use it to usher in Islamic paradise, too... Yeah, that might be worth noting.

So, I can see how you would get confused what with all that information...

Thu, 02/02/2012 - 13:11 | Link to Comment fuu
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There was no confusion on my end.

Thu, 02/02/2012 - 10:23 | Link to Comment Hannibal
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Iran can not be allowed to defend thenselves from foreign bombing and invasion.

Thu, 02/02/2012 - 10:25 | Link to Comment Id fight Gandhi
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They signed the NPT Israel did not. Israel won't admit or deny they hold any nukes.

How about Israel show some good faith in oh, anything!

Thu, 02/02/2012 - 10:43 | Link to Comment a growing concern
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Lol.  The "people of God" are the most self-serving and untrustworthy of any group of people in the entire world.  You could put far more confidence in a mafia boss, as at least they understand honor.

Thu, 02/02/2012 - 11:17 | Link to Comment Max Hunter
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"People of God" and "God's Chosen".. That's a good one.. I wonder who came up with that idea and/or proclamation.. ohh yeah.. THEY DID.. Well.. that works out well for them..

Thu, 02/02/2012 - 11:51 | Link to Comment xela2200
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Well, they have half the world praying to their God, so, yeah, that works out well for them. We even name our children after them. If your name is David, You are named after a jew.

http://names.mongabay.com/male_names.htm

Thu, 02/02/2012 - 14:58 | Link to Comment tarsubil
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Noah, Moses, David, Solomon. I tell ya, they don't make 'em like they used to!

Thu, 02/02/2012 - 14:22 | Link to Comment Cathartes Aura
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every one of "god's chosen" chose themselves as the special ones - that's the nature of peoples of gods.

centuries pass, and still no one's found a god willing to speak to groups, always with the lone chosen dude,  whisper in the ear thing.

Thu, 02/02/2012 - 11:58 | Link to Comment DogSlime
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Of course not.

The only countries that can be allowed to have nukes are stable, peaceful countries that don't have links extremists and don't invade other countries based on cynical lies and profiteering.

Countries like the US, UK, France, Pakistan and Israel are examples of this.  None of these countries have any extremist links and none of them have ever invaded another country.  Pakistan is especially stable and has no terrorist links.

Iran, on the other hand has invaded Iraq, Afghanistan, Grenada, Panama and has used its covert forces to destabilise Central American/African countries at huge cost to their populations.  Iran is run by corrupt corporate bankers who committed unprecedented fraud and condemned hundreds of millions of people to future decades of falling living standards and debt serfdom.

Iran has occupied neighbouring countries and enforces a form of apartheid.  Iranian settlers are continually displacing the populations of these occupied territories in direct violation of UN rules.  The Iranian settlers believe they are superior to all non-Iranians and are favoured by God purely due to their race.

You simply cannot allow such a country to have nuclear weapons.

Thu, 02/02/2012 - 16:16 | Link to Comment Uncle Remus
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Well, I'm so glad we got THAT cleared up.

Thu, 02/02/2012 - 10:23 | Link to Comment GeneMarchbanks
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Bullish.

Thu, 02/02/2012 - 10:24 | Link to Comment battle axe
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Oh Christ, the balloon has gone up, they are laying the foundation for an Airstrike real soon. Gas prices are going to spike like a MF. EXXON will be looking real good. 

Thu, 02/02/2012 - 11:12 | Link to Comment GMadScientist
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The rest of the economy? Not so much.

Thu, 02/02/2012 - 13:56 | Link to Comment HungrySeagull
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Let em spike, I don't give a shit. We have been making ready for war years ago.

Katrina was our awakening.

Never again.

Thu, 02/02/2012 - 10:26 | Link to Comment Uncle Remus
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Apparently there isn't a yiddish equivalent to "Be careful what you wish for".

[Like my new 'do?]

Thu, 02/02/2012 - 10:25 | Link to Comment Cognitive Dissonance
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Israel Accuses Russia Of Supporting Iran Terror Organizations, Says Iran Has Enough Material For 4 Nuclear Bombs

Interesting. And so how many nuclear bombs does Israel have? Opps......sorry. My bad. They're the "good" guys so we follow a policy of 'Don't ask, don't tell'.

/sarc

Thu, 02/02/2012 - 10:27 | Link to Comment cossack55
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So. you're sayin' all Israelis are gay?  Who woulda thunk?

Thu, 02/02/2012 - 10:53 | Link to Comment Heiman Van Rock...
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Zionist Israel's Thermonuclear Blackmail Of America
http://www.rense.com/general35/isrnuk.htm

The Zionist Elephant In The Room
http://www.rense.com/general86/zelephant.htm

Rothschild Six Part Documentary
http://rense.com/general92/roth.htm

The French Connection
http://iamthewitness.com/

Thu, 02/02/2012 - 11:16 | Link to Comment Uncle Remus
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Israel Accuses Russia Of Supporting Iran Terror Organizations

Well WTF - why not. Going "all in" is all the rage.

Thu, 02/02/2012 - 11:25 | Link to Comment Silver Dreamer
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The Russians could just as easily write, "Russia Accuses America Of Supporting Isreali Terror Organizations, Says Israel Has Enough Material For 200 Nuclear Bombs."

Thu, 02/02/2012 - 12:03 | Link to Comment pods
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Well, slight difference, as the Russians would be accurate.

Thu, 02/02/2012 - 12:23 | Link to Comment Cognitive Dissonance
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Bravo!!!

Thu, 02/02/2012 - 12:26 | Link to Comment GeneMarchbanks
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Accuracy doesn't matter. Rapid fire propaganda and repetition do. US media still has a lockdown on that.

Thu, 02/02/2012 - 15:24 | Link to Comment Silver Dreamer
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Exactly.  Since when has the majority of the American public cared about accuracy--or truth for that matter?

Thu, 02/02/2012 - 10:24 | Link to Comment BlackVoid
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"Please remove the children from the control room" - Michael C. Ruppert

Thu, 02/02/2012 - 10:24 | Link to Comment Manthong
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I am NOT liking the way things are shaping up.

Thu, 02/02/2012 - 10:24 | Link to Comment PaperBear
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"“Iran is working towards military nuclear capabilities and can be fully armed within a year" ?

For how many years have we been being told this ? Ten years ? Twenty years ?

Thu, 02/02/2012 - 10:29 | Link to Comment Uncle Remus
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Iran is working towards military nuclear capabilities

Who the hell isn't?

Thu, 02/02/2012 - 11:11 | Link to Comment Troy Ounce
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No, Iran is NOT developing nukes, this according to Panetta in a recent video on "Face The Nation"

http://troyounce.blogspot.com/2012/01/open-secret-panetta-admits-iran-no...

Thu, 02/02/2012 - 11:30 | Link to Comment Silver Dreamer
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We all know "Iran is working towards military nuclear capabilities" should be read as "Iran is working towards alternatives to trading oil in US Dollars."

Thu, 02/02/2012 - 12:22 | Link to Comment Uncle Remus
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I never said they were, nor did I agree with others claims. A well developed non-military nuclear industry can significantly shorten the time frame to military use, should that intent arise. That threatens the "neither confirmed or denied" "sans treaty" nuclear monopoly in the immediate region.

Given the aggressive nature of some nuclear military "governments" and their alleged "allies" plus the long list of those same governments that have actually used nuclear weapons in war, it should not really come as a surprise to anyone that a non-military nuclear capable country would give serious consideration to the military option.

In this instance, it appears that Iran is playing by all the rules and is compliant with the applicable treaties. Israel does not play by the rules.

Fri, 02/03/2012 - 04:04 | Link to Comment matrix2012
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That Zionist state has its own rules to play with. They make one each time.

Thu, 02/02/2012 - 10:50 | Link to Comment pods
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I think that the phrase "Iran is 1 year from the bomb" is only eclipsed by:

"Greece is fixed."

pods

Thu, 02/02/2012 - 11:26 | Link to Comment alien-IQ
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Since 1979...to be precise.

Thu, 02/02/2012 - 14:54 | Link to Comment zerozulu
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One year is toooo LONG. This waiting game is killing me.

Thu, 02/02/2012 - 10:26 | Link to Comment Ima anal sphincter
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They'll get their war. We've seen this SO many times. Death for NO reason. The wrong people are dying. I suggest the people who promote this shit should be held accountable and meet the same fate.

Thu, 02/02/2012 - 10:29 | Link to Comment trav7777
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let Germany sow the seeds for the destruction of the usury system as they force austerity on the periphery of Europe.

Thu, 02/02/2012 - 10:26 | Link to Comment YuropeanImbecille
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Am I a retard or a bitch for laughing my ass of to the above pic? 

 

non finance guy

Thu, 02/02/2012 - 10:26 | Link to Comment zilverreiger
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stop! we need to go back to the question why Iran shouldn't, instead of discussing details.

Thu, 02/02/2012 - 10:27 | Link to Comment Acet
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It's like having a scene where two packs of wolfs are facing each other at the border of their territories but no fight has started.

Then out comes this stupid little Chiwawa that somehow got adopted into one of the packs and starts yapping at the members of the other pack ... and all hell breaaks loose.

Israel is like that stupid little Chiwawa.

Thu, 02/02/2012 - 10:32 | Link to Comment Global Hunter
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and americans are naive enough to be controlled by the Chihuahua...to send their young men off to fight for the chihuahua

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