It May Be 2008 All Over Again, But There Is One Key Difference

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Sat, 08/27/2011 - 17:00 | 1608062 Hugh G Rection
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They blew their wad in 08, no appetite for more bailouts.  I get the feeling the EE will engineer another false flag to try and rally the serfs against another boogeyman.


Didn't Larry Silverstein take over the lease for the old Sears Tower?

Sat, 08/27/2011 - 17:02 | 1608067 cossack55
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But you would have to hire union demolition-types in Chicago. 

Sat, 08/27/2011 - 17:06 | 1608074 Hugh G Rection
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Nah, they'd probably outsource it for cheap, and pay em with cyanide laced plastic rice.

Sat, 08/27/2011 - 18:01 | 1608183 spiral_eyes
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fuck all your bearish goldbuggers!!!

groupon bitchez!!!


Sat, 08/27/2011 - 18:16 | 1608215 Spastica Rex
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That was actually quite funny to me. +1

Sat, 08/27/2011 - 18:32 | 1608251 Flakmeister
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Maybe we get groupon to push precious metal discounts....

Hey, nothing wrong with a little hope...

Sat, 08/27/2011 - 18:46 | 1608281 spiral_eyes
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Hahahahaha groupon pushing PMs with the margins they get?

That's about as likely as Bernanke NOT printing.  

Sun, 08/28/2011 - 08:32 | 1609139 espirit
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Fed may not be inept as most may believe. Their playbook dates well before 2008, even before Bubble 2000.

Serf wages are the real target, in an effort to increase export. 

BTW- Long my precious physical PM's.

Sat, 08/27/2011 - 19:14 | 1608361 Vergeltung
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true that.


Sun, 08/28/2011 - 00:19 | 1608891 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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Fuck Groupon.

Buy silver.

Sun, 08/28/2011 - 03:58 | 1609047 Flakmeister
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I wouldn't fuck groupon with William the Bastard's cock...

Call me old fashioned but I prefer the yellow stuff....

Sun, 08/28/2011 - 09:55 | 1609207 JW n FL
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Dear Flakmeister ,


It is not cheating if Gold never finds out.. dont limit yourself.. live a little.. taste the fruit, participate in the dance.


My Very Best to You and Yours as Always, JW


P.S. Monster Boxes are Great! becuase they come in a Box! the reason I say that is becuase my first 500 did not come in a box and I bought 100 oz at a time.. when I was I love with the idea but not in love with the physical yet.. Trust me.. Monster Boxes.. will make you so very happy.. and for the little things in life.. oz.'s of Gold are just to, too much of a tip.. and I am not walking around with a cut in half gold eagle?? that for some reason irks me.


Sun, 08/28/2011 - 10:20 | 1609228 Flakmeister
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Yeah.... I think I got one hanging around here somewhere.... :)


Sat, 08/27/2011 - 18:44 | 1608277 Iwanttoknow
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Technically this is not a reply.This is my first post on ZH.

When Roosevelt said that he was a zionist and asked whether Stalin also was one,the communist leader responded that he"was one in principle,but he recognized the difficulty".(Yalta-the price of peace-S.M Plokhy--page 315-Viking(penguin group-2010.

Sat, 08/27/2011 - 19:22 | 1608373 Michael
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Welcome to ZH and thanks for your contribution.

Facts can sometimes be unpalatable.

Sat, 08/27/2011 - 19:47 | 1608411 SMG
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When you guys use the word "zionist" to refer to the Oligarchy, people tend to confuse that with jewish people, which is incorrect.    They Oligarchy is more correctly refered to as Lucifarian or Illuminati.   If you really care about helping, it would be great if you used clearer terminolgy.   Thanks.

Sat, 08/27/2011 - 19:52 | 1608420 Michael
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All Oligarchy are Zionist, doesn't matter what ethnicity they are. The color of money is the only thing that matters to them.

Sat, 08/27/2011 - 20:02 | 1608433 SMG
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All I'm saying is the Zionist term is often confused with jewish people, and when the people with torches and pitchforks are looking for someone to blame, the term Lucifarian or Illuminati avoids any confusion with jewish people.

Sun, 08/28/2011 - 09:48 | 1609202 tamboo
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mmm yeah nothing satanic about the talmud.

Sun, 08/28/2011 - 10:00 | 1609214 JW n FL
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what we have learned from this little back and forth exchange is!

and I can vouch for this as well.

You can bash anyone you want.. as long as no one thinks you are reffering to a Jew..

here is what the Jews think about Zionists! I guess these Jews are Secret Nazi's like me.. shhhhhhhhhhhh dont tell anyone..

looks like 300,000 - 400,000 self hating Jews who LOVE Hitler along with me.. secretly of course!

Sun, 08/28/2011 - 10:04 | 1609219 JW n FL
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for my more hardcore brothers.. watch this and then grasp the idea that I am communicating to you..

the more people you can reach and change the mind of.. the more good you are doing.. other than that you are just working on your own ego.. we care more about progress than our egos.. or we should..

"a spoonful of suger helps the medicine go down, in a most delightful way."

Changing Hearts and Minds, that is the Job!

Sun, 08/28/2011 - 12:05 | 1609365 Max Hunter
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Actually, all you are doing is trying to confuse further by assigning the crimes to a name or group that could NEVER be identified and diverting attention from Zionist Crimes against the world.

That will work much better on the Yahoo and MSM boards.  It will be promptly rejected here, as it should be..

Sat, 08/27/2011 - 20:04 | 1608435 augie
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I'm glad there is a discussion regarding this terminology. Until i watched "the ring of power" I too was fooled into thinking zionist equated with the jewish people. It's amazing the more you learn the easier it is to see how the zionists have kept us divided for so long. 


Ring of power doc:


Sat, 08/27/2011 - 21:56 | 1608641 Cliff Claven Cheers
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Don't waste your time.

Lots of claims, but no evidence.  Pure BS.

Sun, 08/28/2011 - 00:25 | 1608898 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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What's important to remember here is that there are those out there that wish to destroy the common man's freedom.

Get a grip, buy silver.

Sun, 08/28/2011 - 01:27 | 1608942 Libertarians fo...
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The overused "buy silver" mantra or any rhetoric about stacking physical metal (exempli gratia: keep stackin'!) comes in handy when you don't have anything intelligent to say, but you still want to feel some acceptance from other, like-minded doomer goons.  

Within the internet "doomer" community, any rhetoric about "beans, bullets and bullion" is basically the online version of a secret handshake.  It immediately lets other doomer goons know that you're a whacked-out weirdo like them.  It's a bit like going to a Tea Party rally, and holding a sign that says "I want my country Back!" It's no different than holding a sign that says, "I WANT TO FIT IN, HERE!"     



Sun, 08/28/2011 - 01:42 | 1608962 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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I am no doomer.  Life will be better without the corporations.  And why do you stereotype me so?  I am no libertarian.  I do not support any party. 

And who are you, so high in your tower to tell anyone else what is happening?  Do you like having the government run your monie?  You do understand that the income tax is illigal?  You do understand that America has a higher per capita prison rate than any other country?  You do know that 45 million people are on food stamps?  One out of every four children?  You do understand that corporations use slave labor?  You do know these things, right?

There are big problems out there, and we, your dommers, are trying to discuss them, so to solve them.  You want to stereotype us.  Why?

The oilgarchs have stolen your soul, you smiley face hitler wuss.  Get a life, stop harassing people, and grow up.

Besides, silver is monie, and when you start something, why stop?

Buy silver.

Sun, 08/28/2011 - 11:14 | 1609291 eisley79
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The first rule of TROLL CLUB, is dont feed the trolls.

1.) He is mad (and jelly)

2.) He wants attention, which is actually like holding up a sign saying "LOVE ME, EVEN IT HURTS, JUST LOVE ME"

3.) All his posts proves he doesnt have a clue about anything

4.) Best thing to do is ignore them, eventually they get bored and move on to somewhere else, for their attention seeking.

Sun, 08/28/2011 - 03:36 | 1609035 Gavrikon
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I prefer Guns, Gold, and Groceries.

Thank you,

Tinfoil Hat Wearer

Sun, 08/28/2011 - 04:02 | 1609049 theMAXILOPEZpsycho
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Piss off, you've been torn apart on so many threads now you want to appear supirior to someone

Keep stakin'

Sun, 08/28/2011 - 09:39 | 1609194 css1971
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Have you noticed how all of your posts are about making you feel good about yourself by pidgeonholing individuals and then denigrating them through the groups you claim they represent?

Clearly you just want to be a part of those groups, as you said, to fit in. Clearly, this is all about you. You are projecting your feelings and desires.

Don't worry. We understand.

Sun, 08/28/2011 - 12:26 | 1609398 Calmyourself
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Perfectly played +

Sun, 08/28/2011 - 01:32 | 1608963 The Man in Room Five
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Damn 5 hours? tl;dw

Sun, 08/28/2011 - 09:43 | 1609196 Inibo E. Exibo
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5 hours?  Seriously?

Sat, 08/27/2011 - 20:58 | 1608532 indygo55
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Some of the confusion may come from the Iranians who always refer to Israel as the Zionist state.

Sat, 08/27/2011 - 23:42 | 1608833 Cathartes Aura
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Some of the "confused" attended the Glenn Beck rally in Israel:

Beck will be supported on stage by the actor Jon Voight and mayor of Jerusalem Nir Barkat. The audience will be overwhelmingly comprised of American Christians who have bought package deals covering flights, accommodation and access to three Beck events in Israel this week. Many are Christian Zionists, whose ardent support of the Israeli state stems from the belief that the "ingathering" of Jews to the Holy Land is a prerequisite for the second coming of the messiah. However, their insistence that Jews must then convert to Christianity has alienated many Israelis.

Among the audience will be some of the 81 US Congress members who are visiting Israel this summer as guests of the American Israel Education Foundation, which is an affiliate of the pro-Israel US lobby group Aipac.

The purpose of the delegations – which comprise one-fifth of Congress members – is to "learn first hand about the evolving security situation in the Middle East, the deep challenges facing Israel, and the role the US can play in the region during this time of uncertainty," according to Democrat Steny Hoyer.

of course, there will be some confusion from the followers, as Beck's Mormon religion also includes a Zion, a "new Jerusalem" to be established in Jackson County, Missouri.

so many Zions, so little time. . .

Sun, 08/28/2011 - 03:39 | 1609037 Gavrikon
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"However, their insistence that Jews must then convert to Christianity has alienated many Israelis."

If the Israelis don't believe it is going to happen, then why would they give a rat's?  No, the alienation has another source, which I am wont to understand.  Non-zionist, conservative Jews (as hard as they are to find) are some of my favorite people.

Sun, 08/28/2011 - 14:21 | 1609594 Cathartes Aura
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perhaps an answer lies in the two factions of Zionism, the Christian sort, the Jewish sort - both have a narrative that needs to use the other for their own "end game" - Christians need the story of Zion for the Jews so that Christ can come back & smite the Jewish folk for happily ever after, and Jewish Zionists need the monetary support of the nationstate Christians vote in - a symbiotic parasitical relationship that ultimately is killing the host(s), and taking us all down with it. . .

just to note, I have good friends who identify as Jews, though not religiously - I've zero problems with folks taking up identities offered but have resistance to those who seek to control and abuse the many to feed the few.

Sun, 08/28/2011 - 19:16 | 1610261 FeralSerf
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Jews are G_d's Chosen People, not Christians! Why would the master want to convert to a slave?

Sun, 08/28/2011 - 19:18 | 1610264 FeralSerf
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Sun, 08/28/2011 - 11:54 | 1609349 snowball777
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Sun, 08/28/2011 - 17:55 | 1610045 jonjon831983
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Funny, I read a book about America and the Middle East since Independence and there was a mention of Zionists who were mostly Christians who wanted to create some homeland for the Jews in Palestine and fulfil some notion of prophecy, but most Jews seemed to not even care for this land.

Sun, 08/28/2011 - 04:20 | 1609056 macholatte
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All Oligarchy are Zionist

Are all Zionists oligarchs?

Sun, 08/28/2011 - 04:36 | 1609063 Flakmeister
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you'll wake up the zionist anarchists....

Sun, 08/28/2011 - 05:07 | 1609079 moregoldplease
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From other threads I thought all the problems were caused by the Boomers

Sun, 08/28/2011 - 05:58 | 1609090 macholatte
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All oligarchs are Boomers.

Sat, 08/27/2011 - 20:11 | 1608449 Iwanttoknow
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I do not imply that Zionists are jewish people.Zionist are Khazars who converted to judaism in 7th centutry,as an opportunistic move.You are right.Zionist form  only a part of the Oligarchy.

Sat, 08/27/2011 - 20:27 | 1608470 SMG
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You and I may know what Zionist means (establishment of a world Illuminati capital in Palestine/Israel), but most people don't.  Even in your statement you see how the Zionist term causes confusion.   First you say they aren't Jewish, then you mention the conversion to Judiasm.  See that's confusing.   If I were you and and really cared about stopping the Oligarchy and bringing them to justice, I would stop using the term Zionist and start using the terms Lucifarian and Illuminati.  It is much clearer and doesn't bring jewish people into it.  Thanks for listening.

Sat, 08/27/2011 - 23:29 | 1608810 Iwanttoknow
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I did mention that was an opportunistic conversion.I do agree that the real goal is to bring the oligarchy down.Zionist pretend to be jews but are very likely luciferiean.However,jews have an obligation and a self interest in exposing them.Zionist have caused untold suffering to jewish people and will continue to inflict suffering on jewish people,by hiding behing them.Zionist are not jewish but a very important part of the illuminati.

Sat, 08/27/2011 - 23:50 | 1608852 Cathartes Aura
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How do Christian Zionists fit into your story?

Joe Biden says he's one.

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