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Is It That Time Again? Military Conducting Training Exercises In And Around Boston

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Sooner or later it was inevitable. Next up: the "tea party" lives up to its true name.

**MEDIA ALERT** Military Training Exercises to Take Place In and Around Boston
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For Immediate Release
July 25, 2011
Released By:
Mayor’s Office For More Information Contact:
Mayor’s Press Office


Joint federal military training exercises will take place within and around the Boston area between July 26th and August 5th. Military personnel will conduct training exercises to ensure the military’s ability to operate in urban environments, prepare forces for upcoming overseas deployments, and meet mandatory training certification requirements. Helicopters will be used in some exercises.


The Boston Police Department is working with military personnel to coordinate training sites that will minimize negative impacts on our Boston citizens and their daily routines. Safety precautions have been taken to prevent risk to the general public and the military personnel involved. With that, training site locations are not open to the public and will be guarded by uniformed personnel to provide additional safety.

h/t Jim Quinn


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Wed, 07/27/2011 - 09:02 | 1497265 jkruffin
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If you believe the reasons they give behind this crap, then you need serious help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Get ready for the biggest default in the world, and China is not going to be happy.

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 09:08 | 1497286 Yes_Questions
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Unhappy Ending.

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 09:29 | 1497371 i-dog
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"prepare forces for upcoming overseas deployments"

Bullshit! This is a trial balloon to see how the sheeple react. And we know how they'll react: "Nothing to worry about...our brave boys need training in urban warfare before they go to the deserts of Libya and Syria". Bullshit, again, I say.

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 09:35 | 1497415 Arthor Bearing
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We can speculate all day about what it might be, but the fact that they came out and said "upcoming overseas deployments" is itself very unsettling. Boston is the most "European" city in the USA; it's one of the oldest and has little of the grid pattern prominent in the rest of the continent. Its coastal location probably factors in too. Traffic is a nightmare though, which is probably why they are using helicopters.... quickly, before oil gets any more expensive!

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 09:45 | 1497468 i-dog
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I think it's just a cover for impending martial law that the sheeple will buy into. They're not going to announce: "don't worry citizens...the troops are only practicing for martial law".

Troops have been on mobilisation since May or June for deployment to the ME in Sept-Oct.

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 09:56 | 1497501 ShankyS
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The death of posse comitatus is upon us. They are preparing (and conditioning the sheeple) for DOMESTIC occupation with US forces. Uh - to those FEMA camp detractors - might be time to wake up.

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 10:33 | 1497690 ShankyS
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JV's Police State and FEMA Camps -

Worth a look if you have not seen it -

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 11:39 | 1497986 gorillaonyourback
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I have lived in boston, new york, chicago, LA,  and i have noticed that by far the boston population is the most politically aware and acive society i have ever been around.  My cousin works as janitor at an elementary and is also a taxi driver,  He is very educated, no college degree but reads alot, he is an example of the people who live there.  In my opinion that city will be the toughest to baffle with bullshit so they start with intimidation first, showing the capabilities,  will make easier to control that population with a military exercise recently in their mind

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 11:44 | 1498055 WaterWings
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The People will need leaflets and loudspeakers of our own to fight the soldiers' indoctrination.

"Winning hearts and minds" will apply more than ever to avoid Civil War II.

Intl banksters pushing for American vs American. Fuck those motherfuckers.

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 09:44 | 1497463 SWRichmond
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They can have Boston.  Nothing there we need or want.

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 09:51 | 1497491 clymer
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unless you happen to live here. One thing is for certain, we don't want martial law

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 10:05 | 1497556 Grifter
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With no disrepect intended towards any Detroit area ZH'ers...but why Boston?  Why not Detroit where there are block after block after block of abandoned buildings?

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 10:18 | 1497622 RafterManFMJ
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Detroit would lead to dead US/Canadian/UN troops...better training in Boston while Detroit would lead to actual warfare.

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 11:38 | 1498023 Creepy Lurker
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RafterMan is right. I grew up there. They would consider it good clean fun to take pot-shots at anyone, armed and firing back would just make it more exciting.

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 18:02 | 1499571 Frankie Carbone
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3:1 odds says that Detroit wins. Those motherfuckers have been engaged in urbarn warfare for the better part of 40 years now. No way a few weeks of training gets the soldiers up to snuff. 

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 21:26 | 1500098 New_Meat
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{OT-Sacrilege-newbie comments and the "new" flag on new comments workig on this thread.}

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 10:34 | 1497700 KnightsofNee
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How much fun is it to throw flash grenades into an empty building?

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 10:21 | 1497635 TumblingDice
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Just curious, what is the thinking here?

Blue state = bad? Stupid liberal hippies and their overpriced education? Retahded accents? Samuel Adams sucks? Barney Frank?

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 10:37 | 1497710 SilverDosed
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I hear all those evil head fund managers live up around there, maybe they're prepping the guillotine?

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 12:24 | 1498220 Raymond Reason
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Good point, because it does seem counter-intuitive, Blue being so pro-government.  But Red states are pro-military, and would probably invite the troops to dinner. 

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 10:16 | 1497613 RafterManFMJ
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...and Afghanastan, and Yemen, and Sudan, and soon to be Iran, Pakistan, Bostan - happily you'll be able to walk out your front door and join the fighting soon; we'll have Mogadishu coast to coast.


Wed, 07/27/2011 - 11:28 | 1497977 Mongrel
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The Amerikan Heel-Clicker Society will be out in force to support the military in this one.

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 11:30 | 1497979 Mongrel
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I Ain't No Fortunate Son, son!

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 17:58 | 1499558 Frankie Carbone
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They'll be well prepared to rapell the State Street branch in Tripoli when the time warrants it. 


Don't want Gadhafi running off with all those interest rates swaps you know. 

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 09:13 | 1497309 Boston
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Uh oh.

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 09:15 | 1497320 YHC-FTSE
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That's certainly possible, but I can't get onboard 100% unless other major cities in the US are conducting/preparing for the same "Military Training" exercises. They're upto something, I don't know what.

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 09:29 | 1497392 Anonymouse
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They have specially constructed training villages in the desert for this sort of thing.  Why do they need to do it in Boston?  Fishy to say the least

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 11:20 | 1497949 gabeh73
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I take the ferry into boston most every day right by the airport and into downtown financial district. Working from home today on the south shore. They have a big Homeland Security office right near my office and occasionally they have lots of jackbooted dudes all gunned up riding our ferry into town.

Whenever it happens I get worried about a false flag and am thinking about how I will jump ship under certain situations.

 I'll take the boat tomorrow and let you know what I see.

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 09:34 | 1497398 MJ
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"They're upto something, I don't know what"

These exercises just happened to have been planned on both 9/11 (hijakcing scenario), 7/7 the underground bombing in London (train bombing scenario), and 4/4/04 in Madrid where anti-terror NATO exercises finish just before bombs go off.  I wouldn't want to be in Boston...

Either a false flag or the continued preparation for martial law (they won't call it that, but Posse Comitatus means shot now).  The oligarchs must protect their pedestal


Wed, 07/27/2011 - 09:53 | 1497461 Bringin It
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Timing looks right for the next FF.

I'm in the Homeland.  On my way to visit the clan ... in Boston.  Spooky. 

Good luck all.

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 10:52 | 1497787 YHC-FTSE
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+1 I'll go with that explanation, thanks. Well, it's either nothing or FF isn't it? 


Since the "Dirty bomb" has been drummed into our subconscious for the last few years, if anyone in the Boston area sees NEST helicopters - Blue/silver Bell 412 (They usually have side mounted pods hanging outside to detect radiation), then please let us know before evacuating to a safe area (50miles+). 

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 09:22 | 1497364 Norsky
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I just love how they always assure us evrything is done "for our safety". The goobermint is only interested in it's own safety and power, period.

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 12:45 | 1498300 Mongrel
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Yes, "national security" really means "government security" (and their cronies, of course). We common folks are left on our own . . . In fact, we're seen as the "enemy" (i.e. domestic terrorists).

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 12:58 | 1498349 DosZap
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National Security means ( Lawful Government Security ),do you actually think the Military of the USA would support an overthrow of our form of Govt in place  for 235 yrs?.) to institute Fascism, or Communism?.

That's not what they signed on for.For sure the people I know that are in, and out.

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 09:39 | 1497439 kridkrid
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The Chinese can pound sand. They do their posturing about the debt, what else can they do or say? They knew what they were doing just like we did. We knew we were playing a game of funny money allowing us to live beyond our means and the chinese leadership were perfectly happy to "pay" slaves (or allow multinationals to pay slave) to make stuff that we don't really need. When the music stops, they'll have a 1.3 billion people to feed, we only have 300 million. The fiction that the chinese will be our new overlords is just that, fiction. We'll flip them the middle finger at some point and it'll be on like Donkey Kong. Does the Chinese military want to tangle with ours? Prolly? They will eventually not have much of choice.  By the way, as I read this before posting, this shouldn't be interpreted as an America Fuck Ya post... the whole thing is disgusting, though completely predictable.

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 10:07 | 1497567 DaveyJones
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what else can they do or say? you could ask yourself the same question. Reference Herodotus

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 10:33 | 1497696 kridkrid
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I'm a little surprised by the negative responses.  It wasn't a pro America post, it was a china knew what it was doing all along post.  The fact that the masses don't understand what the peg has done to support the US getting cheap shit from China and China pouring dollars back to the US for treasuries doesn't change the reality.  It's the same as petro dollar recycling.  The Chinese, like the rest of us, should have known all along that this wasn't a sustainable model.  What does China have to be mad about?  The Chinese "elite" made out just fine... they were the ones who were complicit in the Ponzi scheme.  They are now actors showing their disbelief that America could be so undisciplined in the creation of the Ponzi scheme.  So it ends in war... the Chinese send their peasants to fight our peasants... same as it ever was.

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 10:55 | 1497815 sullymandias
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Maybe because it was completely off topic?

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 11:09 | 1497899 kridkrid
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The post to which I was responding said, "China is going to be mad".  But yes... I can see it as off topic.

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 09:46 | 1497472 Jambo Mambo Bill
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If that so, the US would be finish financially! The whole World would dump the green back and US papers in between some kind of civil unrest...

Truth is they playing with fire! The power of the masses is unstoppable even for the most powerful military in the World...


But don't get into this showdown, it's all about getting people nervous and all! The deal is gona happen and printing is the game.

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 10:03 | 1497545 jus_lite_reading
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Exactly. I hope the sheep didnt think all of the heavy machinary being moved around was for training exercises for the Russians invading us... THEY are getting ready for MARTIAL LAW in this country when TSHTF which should be in a few weeks.... I really hope you guys on ZH are ready... bless you all!!

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 09:02 | 1497266 Xibalba
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police state, bitchez.

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 09:06 | 1497278 Cash_is_Trash
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Bostonians: You are the enemy. Warmest regards from the Central Command.

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 09:32 | 1497401 Arthor Bearing
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Wed, 07/27/2011 - 09:38 | 1497432 Dr. Richard Head
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All citizens MUST report to the local fusion center - Commonwealth Fusion Center
124 Acton Street, 2d Floor
Maynard, MA 01754

TSA Patdowns, facial recognition scan, and urinalysis will be conducted in order to ensure no terrorists will be allowed into the FEMA Camp - Fort Devens - New prison a factory facilities and reservoir that have been built around the camp. It was constructed last year and the railroad had to reconstruct tracks into the prison from Canada and from Boston. Livingston

Warm Regards,

Dear Leader


Wed, 07/27/2011 - 09:55 | 1497506 clymer
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yeah - been watching the devens construction for some time now

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 11:30 | 1497984 TuesdayBen
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DNA sampling

chip placement

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 11:38 | 1498016 V in PA
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Dear Leader,

How does one tell the difference between terrorist pee and regular sheeple pee?



Wed, 07/27/2011 - 12:44 | 1498298 Gohn Galt
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Sounds like labor camps are back in fashion.  I would stay clear, good luck.


Wed, 07/27/2011 - 12:47 | 1498312 eisley79
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seriously quoting 11 year old posts from abovetopsecret to zero hedge ?  lol

other than that, they are definitely prepping for M.L., doesnt mean it will come soon though. 


Wed, 07/27/2011 - 09:03 | 1497268 tmosley
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Wed, 07/27/2011 - 09:03 | 1497270 swissinv
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are there any high buildings or towers in Boston?

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 09:21 | 1497354 Boston
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Wed, 07/27/2011 - 10:06 | 1497565 ShankyS
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They need to practice in a city that represents all those in the middle east with so many tall buildings and modern infrastructure - yeah right - like Boston is remotely close to resembling anything in the MENA. Fucking bullshit is what this is.

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 09:26 | 1497382 Arthor Bearing
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We have two kinda big ones but as far as I know neither are contaminated with asbestos or insured with double-payout insurance policies

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 09:45 | 1497466 Short_phlogiston
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The two I am thinking of, the Hancock Tower and the Prudential, have plenty of asbestos left in them.  The Hancock Tower is one of several of their buildings I worked in as an environmental consultant.  There was plenty of ACM.  The Prudential had a fire caused by an asbestos abatement contractor on or shortly after 9/11.  The whole building was evacuated and panic ensued.

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 10:00 | 1497535 Arthor Bearing
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And Mort Zuckerman just bought the Hancock tower! Let the NWO speculation begin!

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 12:22 | 1498208 pods
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No way they would do that 2x would they?
I would be working at home from now on just to be sure.  


Wed, 07/27/2011 - 10:01 | 1497538 Arthor Bearing
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And Mort Zuckerman just bought the Hancock tower! Let the NWO speculation begin!

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 10:04 | 1497548 Arthor Bearing
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I am a double-posting asshole!

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 11:24 | 1497966 gabeh73
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The Federal Reserve building is tall.

International Place is full of hedge funds.

Hancock and the Prudentiual are famous

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 09:03 | 1497271 Cdad
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You got to be kidding me.

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 09:08 | 1497289 midtowng
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The Tea Party people would be attacking the protestors with clubs for not being patriotic enough.

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 09:24 | 1497372 tmosley
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You would do well to keep silent on subjects you know nothing about.  Or at least refrain from spreading lies about the character of a group of people.

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 09:30 | 1497393 midtowng
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I know a fascist when I see one. And unlike Tea Party members, I don't mistake them for being socialist.

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 11:33 | 1498000 TuesdayBen
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come to the next big Tea Party rally at the US Capitol, you douchebag, and meet us in person

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 11:44 | 1498052 midtowng
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So threatening me is supposed to do something other than convince me that I'm correct about you being fascists?

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 09:37 | 1497430 midtowng
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Now that I think about it, I was wrong about one thing: the Tea Party would attack the protestors with clubs for being ANTI-CAPITALIST.

The original Boston Tea Party was a protest against the East Indies Company, a huge multi-national company with a government sanctioned monopoly, not against taxes. That's why today's Tea Party would be against the protest.

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 10:16 | 1497600 tmosley
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Once again, you show your utter ignorance.  The Boston Tea Party was a protest against the Tea Act, imposed by the CROWN, not by the East Indies Company.  

And you have problems if you can't see that socialism and fascism are the same thing.

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 10:28 | 1497667 Spastica Rex
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Tyranny is tyranny and many political dichotomies are false, but it's a stretch to say fascism = socialism.

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 10:37 | 1497714 OldTrooper
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Hmm...then le's say that they are both suits cut from the same cloth.  Not identical, perhaps, but similar enough that the differences don't matter.

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 10:55 | 1497816 Spastica Rex
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The end products of tyranny are always the same. Understanding the genesis of tyranny can help identify potential perpetrators. Too late now, and no, the differences no longer matter.

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 12:02 | 1498120 midtowng
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This is especially true since both communism and fascism arise with the specific agenda of fighting the other.

Therefore, your group being violently opposed to communists (to the point of violence) does not preclude it from being fascist (and visa versa). In fact, that tendency is a necessary component of fascism.

Saying that one is no different from the other not only ignores all historical precendent, but is a dangerous fallacy to accept because it blinds you from the inherant political dangers.

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 12:57 | 1498345 eisley79
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no they dont,  A FASCIST group, the Nationalist Socialists did so, but that's only because they needed a scape goat to attack and get people to back them.

Fascism is in fact very strongly bound to socialism, and shares another trait with communism, namely totalitarianism. 

That being said, true Capitalism is also absurd and has never really existed, though we are a lot further away from it today.

The US is very much heading in a Fascist direction, with strong power centralized in the state, and the strong corporate state connections.

All they need is a common enemy, (muslim terrorists, the chinese), to start a new sheeple driven false nationalist movement, and you could have the party you have always dreamed of:  The American, Nationalist, Socilaist party. 


The Tea Party is libertarian, which is a philosophy, and tends towards the idea of Capitalism because it is ideally not a form of control, but freedom to act.  It also tends toward Republic-anism (not republicans), as opposed to Democracy.  Again, this being targeted towards, equal rights for all, instead of majority imposes its will on the rest.


The only fallacy is your ego, its got no intelligence or knowledge to back it up.  You have a Fiat ego, printed on federal reserve notes son.  Better check your head for done got robbed.

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 14:15 | 1498636 midtowng
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You got a couple things right: 1) that both communism and fascism are totalitarian, and 2) that we are drifting towards fascism, and 3) Capitalism (big C) either hasn't existed in America, or hasn't existed in a very long time.

  But after that you got a bunch of things wrong. Namely, that fascism is just socialism by another name. Don't get hung up on the words "National Socialism". If you believe what a political party calls itself, then you will believe that former East Germany was a "Democratic Republic".

   Instead, look at who they targeted as enemies first. In Nazi Germany it was communists and socialists that populated the concentration camps first, and then outlawed labor unions. Later on, large corporations, which funded Hitler's rise, made a killing on war machine contracts.

In Italy, the Blackshirts were beating up labor leaders and socialists, while promoting tax breaks to the rich and large corporations. Italy also bailed out the banks when they got into trouble.

  The key difference between fascism and socialism is that one makes large corporations a friend, and the other makes it an enemy. Socialism, when it drifts far enough to the left, outlaws labor unions just like fascism does from the beginning. They both become totalitarian, the difference is who makes the profits.

  One other thing you missed by a mile, is that socialism does NOT promote nationalism. Fascism does. In fact, nationalism is a key ingredient of fascism, while socialism rejects it.

  So instead of bashing whatever you think I represent and calling me names, spend some time doing your homework.

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 11:51 | 1498070 midtowng
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No, it's you who show your utter ignorance. Do you even know what the Tea Act did?Obviously not.

It allowed the East Indies Company to import tea TAX FREE into the colonies, but ONLY the East Indies Company. In other words, it was a TAX CUT in the form of a tax subsidy for a multi-national corporation.

 The reason the colonists were unhappy with getting their tea cheaper was because it would drive out all the small businesses.

This is exactly the OPPOSITE of what the current Tea Party ideology supports.

And yes, socialism and fascism are two different things. The proof is that fascism ALWAYS forms around the idea of fighting socialism (usually by killing socialists and communists) and supporting big business.

You, like most Tea Party members, don't know these basic facts of history.

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 12:13 | 1498170 Bendromeda Strain
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And you have apparently had your head firmly up your ass since at least the "Obamacare" recess. Here is the basic fact of recent history (going to your original point). The only people who have been able to intimidate or throw down with impunity have been a) New Black Panthers, or b) SEIU thugs in purple.

I understand you're scared Nancy, the bad people don't want to hyperinflate the currency to indulge your societal fantasies, but not to worry - it will happen anyway.


Wed, 07/27/2011 - 14:04 | 1498566 midtowng
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So basically you ignored absolutely EVERYTHING I said and went back to a knee-jerk response.

Do you realize how easy that make it for me to ignore you?

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 09:10 | 1497298 High Plains Drifter
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nope. its no joke. they do this from time to time around the country.  they did it several years ago in texas.  have not seen this in a while around here though.  the men dressed in black are showing us what they can do if we get out of line........oh yeh?

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 09:25 | 1497378 NumNutt
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This is interesting, a couple of days ago I saw a large military force moving south on interstate 81 in Virginia. 81 is a major travel route and we do see military hardware move up and down it, but it is never armed. The stuff I saw this last time was armed and I made a comment about it to my wife that I thought that was odd. These guys were not heading towards Boston. I think something is up, did the head of the department of homeland security just a couple of days ago make comments at a news conference regarding home grown terrorist? Get ready, TSA check points coming to a town near you....

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 12:21 | 1498201 XitSam
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What do you mean by "armed"? 

If you want to make a report, use the SALUTE format described in FM 3-21.75.

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 12:48 | 1498320 DosZap
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Explain, that website is not considered safe, according to my computer.

Armed?..........seems self explanatory...............(to have own,possess arms, and if you bear them, means you take them up with intent /posibility of use).

What's the difficulty in a simple statement.? If you own weapons are you not cable of being  armed with them?.

If you have a CCP, and get pulled over, you can bet your ass the officer considers you ARMED.

It's either on your person, or within your immediate reach.That's my definition of armed.

What's yours?.

Make a report,please expound rather than give a useless link.

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 15:11 | 1498856 XitSam
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An https domain? Unlikely. Probably your virus detector didn't like something about the SSL certificate.  Doesn't mean it isn't safe and the link isn't useless.

1 Size - how many trucks/people. Tanks? Bradleys? Humvee?

2 Activity - Convoy southbound.

3 Location - I 81

4 Unit - Army? Air Force? Marines? 101st Airborne? 

5 Time - Couple days ago

6 Equipment - "Clarify, complete, and expand on previous entries. Include information about equipment involved, tactics used, and any other essential elements of information (EEI) not already reported in the previous lines."  

So, what made this convoy "armed" vs. other convoys he has seen?  Did they have .50 cals on ring mounts?  Pointing M4s out the windows? When I was in the Army, we always convoyed armed, and that was a support unit.  I doubt that any Army or Marine unit ever convoys unarmed.

Rock of the Marne!

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 17:49 | 1499527 NumNutt
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Sorry guys just noticed everyones questions, will try to answer all of them. This was a convoy, maybe twenty vehicals, kind of spread out, mostly Humvees, but there were two of the big 8 wheel things and they had 5o Cals on them. Plus there where two trucks hauling big fucking cannons. They were hauling ass, didn't realize the 8 wheel jobs could  go that fast. There were soldiers sitting on top of the 8 wheelers in full gear. In the past I have seen some of these type of vehicals but they never had any type of weapons displayed. Even when I see tanks being transported they dont have the weapons installed. Like they are being shipped someplace to have that done. Just telling you what I saw. I have worked for the army in the past and have seen them do training exercises where they looked like what I saw. But like I said the guys were not heading towards boston, they were not even heading north. This was on I81 heading south towards Winchester VA (just outside of that city).

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 23:50 | 1500302 XitSam
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Thank you for the response.  The big 8 wheelers could be LAV-25 used by the Marines, or maybe HEMTT (4 wheels rear, 4 wheels in front which all steer) or something else.  I used to drive HEMTTs, they can go much faster than the published speed.  In Germany, the HEMTTs would convoy separately from the deuce and a half and five tons because they were so slow.

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 09:23 | 1497370 fuu
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There was that whole hostage rescue training on the top of I think a BAC tower in Florida earlier in the year. There was a link here of ZH about it.

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 09:03 | 1497272 monopoly
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Going to be one big surprise to the markets if we default. Still think they will find a short term solution which solves nothing. But, this market just will not go down. Too early to short.

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 09:04 | 1497273 papaswamp
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Q. What overseas conflict areas are built like Boston?

A. None.


Wed, 07/27/2011 - 09:07 | 1497282 Mike2756
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That was my question, unless they plan on redeploying to europe if they implode first.

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 09:16 | 1497330 moriarty
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There is one here in the UK but the landscape is very different. It has worse crime stats than average but not any reason to send in the army.

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 09:19 | 1497344 Sir Real
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SuperSecretAnswer:  Most US cities. 


Wed, 07/27/2011 - 09:27 | 1497381 sumo
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Athens, Dublin, Madrid, Rome, London, Berlin

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 10:22 | 1497636 New_Meat
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Not yet. - Ned

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 11:20 | 1497948 pupton
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Not conflict areas yet but how about Taipei, Shanghai, Hong Kong...

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 09:04 | 1497274 dick cheneys ghost
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Wed, 07/27/2011 - 09:16 | 1497332 NumNutt
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We are, but that has never stopped us in the past....

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 09:17 | 1497335 Cash_is_Trash
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Shhh, that's dangerous thinking you're doing.

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 09:35 | 1497417 sumo
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We are broke. The Financial Elite is not.

Guess who the military works for, and is commanded by?

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 09:05 | 1497277 the not so migh...
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make sure to have your papers in order

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 09:30 | 1497395 dwdollar
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And your gold in hand.

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 09:07 | 1497279 magpie
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Bank runs won't be that easy with tanks standing in the way.

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 09:06 | 1497280 Yes_Questions
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Within and around Boston??

Prepare forces for upcoming overseas deployments??

Is Tehran a sister city to Boston?


Wed, 07/27/2011 - 09:13 | 1497310 Mike2756
Wed, 07/27/2011 - 09:17 | 1497336 Yes_Questions
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And then there's that.



Wed, 07/27/2011 - 09:14 | 1497316 SheepDog-One
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Training for overseas? Hell I live near Ft Carson which has a city mock-up for training, why not just do it there?

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 09:22 | 1497366 wandstrasse
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I am just wondering if the treasury department and/or the FED had an economic recovery mock-up for training...

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 09:33 | 1497403 Zero Govt
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nope just down lots of happy pills, brand Hopium 

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 09:17 | 1497328 Quintus
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Yes.  The Street plans, architecture and climate are exactly the same.  Many people are surprised to learn just how much the two cities have in common.  

In fact Hollywood producers often use Boston as a substitute backdrop for middle-eastern capital cities.  Ever seen 'The Hurt Locker'?  Much of that was filmed around Beacon Hill.

No, there's nothing suspicious at all about the 'Overseas Deployment' justification for these exercises taking place in Boston.


Wed, 07/27/2011 - 09:24 | 1497373 Yes_Questions
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Beacon Hill, Jordan?


Wed, 07/27/2011 - 09:29 | 1497391 Quintus
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It was a joke buddy. :-)

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 09:33 | 1497402 Yes_Questions
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I know.  Voted Up for it too...

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 10:24 | 1497647 New_Meat
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The locals say "Bacon Hill."  I find that mildly disturbing ;-)

And no mention in the Globe or Herald.  Maybe we can get the local talk guys to cover?

- Ned

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 09:17 | 1497338 Cassandra Syndrome
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Good Irish American town, they don't need anyone to defend them from hostile forces!

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 09:39 | 1497435 snowball777
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They are the hostile forces.

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 10:13 | 1497592 DaveyJones
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now all we need is some beer

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 09:07 | 1497281 youngman
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I hope when the chips fall...they fight for the right side....

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 09:16 | 1497331 thedrickster
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I think many will, the oath keepers came along at just the right time/

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 09:09 | 1497284 JustPrintMoreDuh
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all ur freedoms r belong to us

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 09:08 | 1497287 janchup
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We are only practicing.

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 09:11 | 1497288 knukles
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Because a lot of mutual funds in Boston own treasuries with August coupon payment dates? 
Protect Boston from pissed off Chinese when treasury misses a payment?

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 09:09 | 1497292 PeeTee
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I'm not American, so I don't know how often you have this sort of training in the cities. Does that happen often?

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 09:11 | 1497302 knukles
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Wed, 07/27/2011 - 09:18 | 1497342 PeeTee
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In which case I must conclude that the years of training in Kabul and Baghdad will prove very valuable in keeping the Bostonians at bay..

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 12:05 | 1498130 WaterWings
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They will use our own troops against us to maintain control, no matter what:

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 12:36 | 1498259 DosZap
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Water Wings,

I can see and understand that document for what it is.

What my previous post alluded to was a total population(or huge majority) with a gut full of Politics as usual.Not an internal thug on thug war, with roving gangs/bands maiming/murdering other Americans.

The jist is IF the Govt, END AROUNDS the Constitution, and tries to forcibly change our,as well as the military's form of Govt,fought for for 235 yrs ,then all bets are off.

If the Military goes against the WILL OF THE people as a whole....................then we will have no nation period.

I do not see this happening.(they have friends, families, lives and have come to appreciate our way of life, as most others have likely even more.They have been fighting terrorist cells, not their neighbors, and relatives.

Order,not toal chaos will reign, if the PTB are not OVERTHROWING/CHANGING  our current form of Govt, and the Const of the US of A.The Pols may have ignored it,but rest assured the Military has not.

The Military did not sign on to destroy that which so may have died for.

This is, of course just IMHO.

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 13:31 | 1498460 WaterWings
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Lets hope our officers have a plan to take back the reigns from the banksters.

I agree that most of our troops want to defend "freedom", even though they aren't familiar with what that actually means.

As you know, domestic police crunch innocent bones all the time - turn down that accountability knob a little further and...

Somehow we forget to add human nature to the mix.

I know you get this - I just feel we are putting too much faith in a powerful establishment that hasn't openly demonstrated any willingness to defy the bankster status quo.

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 11:40 | 1498035 DosZap
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Pee Tee.

Once is too often.This is bullshit.

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 09:09 | 1497293 sabra1
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people relax, it's all to make sure that no kids operate illegal lemonade stands!

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 09:09 | 1497294 High Plains Drifter
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oh come on tyler. you know how it is. the united states must remain prepared so that it can defend itself against those evil and angry middle class white guy terrorist.............

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 09:40 | 1497442 Zero Govt
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the US has been attacked once in 100 years ...and spends $80 Billion per annum on defending its territory against this phantom menace ..more great budgeting by the US Govt 

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 10:03 | 1497547 Ferrari
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$80 Billion per annum you say? Actually, that sounds like a very good US Defense Department/Security apparatus budget, and save the rest of $500+ spent "to defend us."

We're channelling Smedley Buttler here: "I believe in adequate defense at the coastline and nothing else. If a nation comes over here to fight, then we'll fight. The trouble with America is that when the dollar only earns 6 percent over here, then it gets restless and goes overseas to get 100 percent. Then the flag follows the dollar and the soldiers follow the flag."

& here: “War is just a racket. A racket is best described, I believe, as something that is not what it seems to the majority of people. Only a small inside group knows what it is about. It is conducted for the benefit of the very few at the expense of the masses."

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 10:19 | 1497625 Chief KnocAHoma
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Maybe the reason we have not been attacked is BECAUSE of the military we have.

Don't get me wrong. I think the troops should come home from Korea and Germany, but right now, I trust our military leaders more than our executive branch.

I am The Chief

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 10:16 | 1497607 DaveyJones
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america was attacked by a white guy terrorist but he wasn't middle class.... 

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 09:10 | 1497297 Long-John-Silver
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Speaking of the military I might as well post this.

Have you had just about enough of the latest BS (you know what it is) and want to get out of the military within 10 days with an Honourable Discharge?

This is a proven method that has worked perfectly for decades and was used by politicians and elites to keep their Sons out of the Military Draft or get them out posthaste when they got orders sending them to a war zone. This little known loophole in the UCMJ provides this option and it will not cost you anything. This is all detailed at the following link.


Wed, 07/27/2011 - 09:20 | 1497347 ibjamming
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Is the diplomatic immunity in that link for real?

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 09:40 | 1497446 Long-John-Silver
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Yes it is and I have it.

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 10:30 | 1497680 toxic8
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So you're saying you can get an honorable discharge from the military by becoming an Ordained Priest of "Dudeism"?

The Universal Life Church Monastery

Spiritual Humanism

Dudeism Church

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Wed, 07/27/2011 - 09:11 | 1497301 firstdivision
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Martial Law!

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 09:12 | 1497304 nonclaim
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Wouldn't Chicago be more appropriate? Maybe not... the live fire experience would be too real for a training.

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 09:13 | 1497305 SheepDog-One
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I dont think the Tea Party fogies will live up to the old tea party which kidnapped and killed politicians, they just want their social security check.

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 09:46 | 1497460 Zero Govt
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the Tea Partiers, same as the original protest itself, want less tax ..that's the opposite end of wanting more social security suggesting TP's are net contributors as apposed net parasites don't you think? . . . you do think before you speak uh?!!

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 10:01 | 1497539 Deepskyy
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In the home town of the "Liberal Lion" (May he burn in hell) I think you are right Sheep.  The "Give  me Liberty or Give me Death!" crowd doesn't reside in New England anymore.  It has moved south and west.  I still have a little faith in the "Hornets' Nest" here in the Queen City area (not the city itself mind you, but the surrounding rural areas).  The hint of Martial Law would not sit well 'round here.


Wed, 07/27/2011 - 10:07 | 1497569 Founders Keeper
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[...the old tea party which kidnapped and killed politicians...]---SheepDog-One

Kidnapped and killed politicians? SheepDog, please provide a source to that misinformation.

The "Tea Party" of Boston 1773 was an event, not a political party. In fact, there were similar acts of rebellion in other colonist harbors, e.g. NY.

The "Tea Party" event in Boston was planned and conducted primarily by members of a radical group of colonial loyalists, Sons of Liberty.  (Note the flag of Sons of Liberty was distinguished by 13 horizontal stripes, 7 red and 6 white.)


Wed, 07/27/2011 - 10:54 | 1497801 New_Meat
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Foundres Keeper: In fact, the Tea Party was peaceful, e.g.:

"The destruction of tea was not a violent protest. The ships’ crews attested that nothing had been damaged or destroyed except the tea - and the protesters swept the decks clean afterwards. The Massachusetts Gazette even reported that when it was realized that a padlock that had been broken was the personal property of one of the ships’ captains, a replacement was procured and sent to him."

- Ned

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 23:58 | 1500308 Founders Keeper
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Great post, New_Meat.

I recently learned those very facts. Quite interesting. Thanks for adding.


Thu, 07/28/2011 - 00:13 | 1500319 Quixote
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So, SheepDog-One, you're saying that the Tea Party, which wants small federal government, just wants an entitlement created by big government progressive FDR?


Hey, no kidding, I used to call this kid in my neighborhood Sheep Dog. He's now a VP at Goldman Sachs. You don't work for Goldman Sachs do you?

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 09:13 | 1497308 StormShadow
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Well there could be a silver lining here. They mentioned using choppers, so maybe Santa Ben will drop a few bundles o' Benjamins down to the refugees in the internment camps.

Seriously though, this is a bit disturbing. I mean are we prepping to take down Hong Kong? Kinda doubt it.

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 09:13 | 1497312 Debtless
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I think the new red coat uniforms look pretty jazzy.

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 09:14 | 1497314 KnightsofNee
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What was it? One by land, two by sea? High ho silver!

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