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Italian Exposure By Bank

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Previously we showed what the sovereign gross level exposure to Italy is. Now, it is time to get granular and show the data at a discrete level. Below are the banks most exposed to Italy. Don't forget that courtesy of our wonderful fractional reserve financial system, with everyone's asset being someone else's liability, the question then becomes who has most exposure to these banks, and then most exposure to banks that have exposure to these banks, and so forth.

  • Intesa €60.2 BN
  • UniCredit €49.1 BN,
  • Banca Monte €32.5 BN
  • BNP Paribas €28.0 BN
  • Dexia €15.8 BN
  • Banco Popolare €11.8 BN
  • Commerzbank €11.7 BN
  • Credit Agricole €10.8 BN
  • UBI €10.5 BN
  • HSBC €9.9 BN
  • Barclays €9.4 BN
  • SocGen €8.8 BN
  • Deutsche Bank €7.7 BN

Remember though: THEY ARE ALL PERFECTLY HEDGED!!! </sarc>

Judging by the stock performance of the Big 3, the market knows this all too well.

Data and chart source: Bloomberg

 


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Wed, 11/09/2011 - 09:44 | Link to Comment bania
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I get the feeling there is a "palpable hue of anticipation" for days like today in the ZH office

Wed, 11/09/2011 - 09:50 | Link to Comment SheepDog-One
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I think its hillarious. At close yesterday all I heard from da bulls and media was how DOW 15,000 by Xmas is now definitely confirmed.

Stop-loss flushing market, all it is.

Wed, 11/09/2011 - 09:51 | Link to Comment jdelano
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surprised it's not bigger news that papademos is getting cockblocked by G-Pap....

Wed, 11/09/2011 - 10:20 | Link to Comment strannick
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The names 'L-Pap'

Wed, 11/09/2011 - 10:32 | Link to Comment FEDbuster
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This is just a giant Pap smear.

Wed, 11/09/2011 - 11:01 | Link to Comment TruthInSunshine
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"Don't forget that courtesy of our wonderful fractional reserve financial system, with everyone's asset being someone else's liability, the question then becomes who has most exposure to these banks, and then most exposure to banks that have exposure to these banks, and so forth."

 

Zero Hedge, because nobody does (or says) it better.

No one is half as good as you.

+1 Federal Reserve Note (conjured from thin air, then loaned 9 times over, with each of the 9 leveraged by ratios as far as the eye can see).

Wed, 11/09/2011 - 09:52 | Link to Comment Big Slick
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Dow futures down 243 at 8:53AM ET

Wed, 11/09/2011 - 11:00 | Link to Comment Hansel
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This is just a correction.  All aboard, full steam ahead.  15,000 by Xmas, 17,000 by new year, 23,000,000 by Juneteenth.  Don't be a hater, BTFD.

Wed, 11/09/2011 - 09:57 | Link to Comment Andrew G
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ECB = Eventually Capitulate to Bondholders

Print, baby, print!

Wed, 11/09/2011 - 10:03 | Link to Comment Note to self
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I don't think a statement regarding printing is going to turn off the margin calls now set to lock in after today's close.

Wed, 11/09/2011 - 10:13 | Link to Comment disabledvet
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that's "the question." will the ECB start monetizing? Super Mario has given every indication of "NO WAY." There is a restructuring option when you have an Argentina or an Iceland. But those were basically blips on the economic radar screen. No one will argue that about the entirety of European Union. It may not be the largest economy in the world but it certainly is the largest TRADING BLOC. My concern is that Super Mario is missing this distinction and will mistake the simple "hugeness" of the liquidity that the American economy has (which is not a trading bloc at all) for something identical in "Europe." The type of "our Banks" is completely different than the European ones "over there." Indeed...there's that name "Dexia" again! And what about the insurers? They have to have MASSIVE exposure to the European CDS do they not?

Wed, 11/09/2011 - 10:59 | Link to Comment Jayda1850
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They have to have MASSIVE exposure to the European CDS do they not?

What does it matter? The bondholder's haircut will always be "voluntary" and no matter how large the haircut the TPTB will never allow it to be acknowledged as a credit event. After the greek fiasco, those CDS contracts are worthless. Thats the main reason for the sell off in BTP's. Why would an investor buy them if he can't get any protection on them?

Wed, 11/09/2011 - 10:03 | Link to Comment Miss Expectations
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I've often wondered what the ZH office looks like.  Perhaps William could offer his own visual take?

Wed, 11/09/2011 - 10:07 | Link to Comment Note to self
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I trhink its hip like the pad where the Monkees used to live.

Wed, 11/09/2011 - 10:32 | Link to Comment Zero Govt
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used to look like the Monkeys pad ...before the ZH office became rammed with flatscreen monitors and now looks like a TV showroom ...plus obligatory (for Yanks) mini basketball hoop, desks covered in coffee cups and the centrepiece of the office, a dartboard with a photo of Tiny Tim shredded with a thousand darts (i've got one of those too)

Wed, 11/09/2011 - 10:53 | Link to Comment Reggie Middleton
Wed, 11/09/2011 - 09:44 | Link to Comment qussl3
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Cant Italy just nationalize them?

Wait........

Wed, 11/09/2011 - 09:45 | Link to Comment JJSF
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I wonder what Morgan Stanley's holdings are in comparison.

Wed, 11/09/2011 - 09:58 | Link to Comment jekyll island
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Good point.  Tyler, how about an article for French and Spanish bank exposure to sovereign debt, they are next on the list?  Might be good candidates to buy some puts if they are overvalued.  

 

Wed, 11/09/2011 - 10:12 | Link to Comment NetDamage
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French banks are well covered by Reggie.

Wed, 11/09/2011 - 09:46 | Link to Comment GeneMarchbanks
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Dexia?

Wed, 11/09/2011 - 09:47 | Link to Comment GMadScientist
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Decks Ya!

Wed, 11/09/2011 - 10:37 | Link to Comment Zero Govt
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hasn't Debtya already been bailed?

..and now they're up again on the 'Winners' podium.

No rest for the wicked! ...some bankrupt banks just can't get a break around here!

Wed, 11/09/2011 - 09:46 | Link to Comment Tom Green Swedish
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How do I rained chocolate?

Wed, 11/09/2011 - 10:53 | Link to Comment Zero Govt
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I'd ask the Belgiums about chocolate but what with losing their Govt (fuking awesome), losing their banks and soon to lose the EC HQ let's just say they're rather bizzy at the moment ! 

Wed, 11/09/2011 - 09:47 | Link to Comment GMadScientist
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Can I see those totals in Lire, please? ;)

Wed, 11/09/2011 - 09:47 | Link to Comment youngman
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There is some red on those balance sheets today...but they will just change their capital numbers or something to cover it...all is good in la la accounting land..

Wed, 11/09/2011 - 09:47 | Link to Comment SheepDog-One
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Aw whats a few hundred billion between scumbag bankers?

Wed, 11/09/2011 - 09:49 | Link to Comment boweatherly
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*ITALY'S CC&G SAYS DEPOSIT CHARGE ON ITALY 10-YR BONDS 11.65%

Cassa di Compensazione e Garanzia (CC&G) the clearence system that contains most of the active Italian repo counterparts have just matched LCH Clearnet S.A.'s increase in margin.

Wed, 11/09/2011 - 09:53 | Link to Comment GeneMarchbanks
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When it rains it pours. Now get down on all fours!

Wed, 11/09/2011 - 09:51 | Link to Comment sabra1
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this won't affect canadian real estate which only goes up, right?

 

Wed, 11/09/2011 - 09:51 | Link to Comment Big Slick
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Couple of big names there - primary dealers of US Treasuries

Primary Dealer list;  http://www.ny.frb.org/markets/pridealers_current.html

 

Wed, 11/09/2011 - 09:52 | Link to Comment youngman
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It looks like the ECB is buying right now...if I was one of these banks....I would be unloading as much as I could.....its going to 60% soon....and I thought this would happen to Bernanke first...the dumping of treasuries....probably because I thought the ECB would follow their rules and regulations, treaties and such.....so just when you think you have the game figured out...they change the game on you....

Wed, 11/09/2011 - 09:53 | Link to Comment pasttense
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You should have separated the list into Italian and non-Italian banks.

Wed, 11/09/2011 - 09:53 | Link to Comment semperfi
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ECB Bailout "Easy" Button about to be pushed. 

Wed, 11/09/2011 - 09:55 | Link to Comment trampstamp
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Look at those assholes trying to goose the market. US futures traders on the floor want some of the action, when it opens in the US,  so they will goose it up for a better price. Well I hope that's what it is and not beeno and the boys.

Wed, 11/09/2011 - 09:54 | Link to Comment Peter K
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... and being held to term. :)

 

Wed, 11/09/2011 - 09:55 | Link to Comment firstdivision
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I shorted a boat load of MS yesterday right before close.  That was one hell of a lucky bet.

Wed, 11/09/2011 - 10:20 | Link to Comment Smiddywesson
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Lucky bet, no, lucky timing, yes.  Green for you.

Wed, 11/09/2011 - 10:36 | Link to Comment Ragnar24
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Exactly! My timing on MS was shit (bought puts 3 weeks ago). "Luck" is just the convergence of preparation and timing -- so nice work on the trade!

Wed, 11/09/2011 - 09:59 | Link to Comment pantheo
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A downgrade now should be the cherry on the cake for the permabulls...

Wed, 11/09/2011 - 10:00 | Link to Comment iinthesky
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Money changers never change

Wed, 11/09/2011 - 10:01 | Link to Comment s2man
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Gordon Long says only two countries have had lower growth than Italy since 200: Haiti and Zimbabwe.  LOL  Based on that contrarian info, I am going long It bonds.

Wed, 11/09/2011 - 10:03 | Link to Comment Rogier
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Deutsche Bank exposure to Italy stems from the takeover of Postbank, but if I'm not mistaken DB recently sold over 6 BN of its BTP portfolio...

Wed, 11/09/2011 - 10:05 | Link to Comment devo
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Here comes hyperinflation.

Wed, 11/09/2011 - 10:07 | Link to Comment midgetrannyporn
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They are mostly just EU TBTF imo.

Wed, 11/09/2011 - 10:11 | Link to Comment Schmuck Raker
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I've been meaning to ask:

Italy finally passed their 2010 budget last week.

Today, I hear they could pass the 2012 budget in the next week(, or two.)

Ssoooooo...what about the 2011 budget. Do they plan to just skip it? Is this some new type of "Budget Cutting" device I'm not familiar with?

Wed, 11/09/2011 - 10:14 | Link to Comment lizzy36
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US has only passed ONE budget since obama has been in Office.

Could be part of the problem, but what do i know.

Wed, 11/09/2011 - 10:16 | Link to Comment lizzy36
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I can harldy wait for the Market to start focusing back to Spain. 

Because although Spain is not as "big" as Italy is is a larger clusterfuck.

Might be time to buy some nickels....(kyle bass)

Wed, 11/09/2011 - 10:21 | Link to Comment ralphcore
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hmmm, do i smell short sale restrictions in these names being extended beyond 11th Nov ???

Wed, 11/09/2011 - 11:49 | Link to Comment ralphcore
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apparently 11th nov is when the SS restriction will lapse, minus the bank hol in france on monday - down to zero by Tuesday COB ??

Wed, 11/09/2011 - 10:28 | Link to Comment Belarus
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BNP Paribas €28.0 BN; What a clusterfuck of a bank! Middleton's calls their accounitng: Leh-Man Bucks. It's a good analogy I think. 


Wed, 11/09/2011 - 10:42 | Link to Comment YesWeKahn
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Are you sure that US banks did hide anything?

Wed, 11/09/2011 - 11:50 | Link to Comment Mussolim
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I remeber when months ago ZH exposed the dump of italian banks shares on Sigma-x....

TD, SEI TROOOPPO avanti!

Wed, 11/09/2011 - 14:53 | Link to Comment Scrilla
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I suggest ZH shoud look into credit-default-swap counterparty exposure towards both financial institutions and sovereign debt of the PIIGS countries. Word on the street is that US banks are involved big way?

Wed, 11/09/2011 - 14:53 | Link to Comment Scrilla
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I suggest ZH shoud look into credit-default-swap counterparty exposure towards both financial institutions and sovereign debt of the PIIGS countries. Word on the street is that US banks are involved big way?

Mon, 11/14/2011 - 05:57 | Link to Comment dida
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I think if they will not do something in this case, the problems will be more and more difficult to be solved and the situation will have an dramatic ending. Cazare Rucar

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