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Italy-Pregnant BlackRock Sees Write-Downs Of 75-80% For Greece, Portugal And Ireland

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Mon, 11/14/2011 - 12:23 | 1875793 Azannoth
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And that's not mentioning 50% on Spain and Italy

Mon, 11/14/2011 - 12:25 | 1875805 markmotive
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According to Roubini (video) chaos in Europe could hit the world harder than Lehman Brothers


Mon, 11/14/2011 - 12:36 | 1875839 WonderDawg
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That's news? Uh, yeah, Mr. Roubini, Europe is a continent. Lehman was a broker. Slight difference, and I would say the bang will be bigger.

Mon, 11/14/2011 - 12:59 | 1875916 flacon
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Is the new CEO of ISDA going to declare that it is not a "Credit Event" when it happens - and then promptly resign?

Mon, 11/14/2011 - 12:38 | 1875850 LeBalance
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that's not Capt. Ob, that general Ob.

but he is spoonfeeding to MSM.

Mon, 11/14/2011 - 14:00 | 1875854 Hard1
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"...Blackrock also said ECB should buy more bonds".   Translation:   "Please rescue us...SOS ECB SOS"

Tue, 11/15/2011 - 08:52 | 1878662 ZeroPoint
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Absolutely. But not just any bonds, but buy the bonds Blackrock is holding.

Mon, 11/14/2011 - 12:25 | 1875802 DogSlime
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Still won't be considered a credit event, though, if previous form is anything to go by.

Mon, 11/14/2011 - 12:25 | 1875803 El Viejo
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Hey Banzai !

How about a poster similar to the old cigar smokin dogs at a poker table. Instead have all the heads of investment banks and hedge funds with the world's leaders standing behind slippin em aces.


Mon, 11/14/2011 - 12:46 | 1875878 Librarian
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This is actually a bit more difficult than you would think.

I was working on a photoshop with the same theme -- dogs with people's faces.  It was for something unrelated to your idea.  The eyes are no problem but I had a lot of problems making the mouth and noses look right.  I figured out that for how much time it would take on photoshop that it would be less expensive to hire an artist to do the half human-half dog faces and then to scan those and finish them up with photoshop.  My friend who had the idea didn't want to spend real funds for what was just a private joke between friends.  Of course, he didn't have any problem with asking me to spend my time on his idea.

It's a great idea, Old One.  I hope that someone runs with it.  I will then be delighted to right-click on it, steal it into my collection and then email it to all my friends! ;)

Mon, 11/14/2011 - 12:26 | 1875808 firstdivision
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Spanish spread is as wide as Italy, yet Spain hasn't been at the forefont the past few days. What gives?

Mon, 11/14/2011 - 14:08 | 1876129 Watson
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I agree, this is strange.

To me, Italy may have had an 'Entertainer' as Prime Minister, but that should not distract from the fact that (northern) Italy has a substantial manufacturing industry, exporting all over the world.
It has not had a real estate bust.

Spain does agriculture and tourism, and only a little manufacturing.
It has had the Mother of real estate busts.

Italy _may_ be illiquid rather than insolvent.

Spain is insolvent.

Mon, 11/14/2011 - 12:26 | 1875809 pendragon
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so they're short those 3 vs long btps?

Mon, 11/14/2011 - 12:30 | 1875823 Miss Expectations
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I think I'll have the Cusip Italiano.  Is fresh, no? 

Mon, 11/14/2011 - 12:30 | 1875825 Mactheknife
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Translation.."Trade in that worthless PIG debt for some nice Italian bonds we have and we'll throw in some great beachfront property in AZ." 

Mon, 11/14/2011 - 12:34 | 1875838 BurningFuld
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Are these guys retards?  Show of hands...who would buy a 10 year Italian Bond even at say 9%? You MUST hold to maturity of course.

Mon, 11/14/2011 - 12:36 | 1875840 Dapper Dan
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Officer, the reason I was speeding is my wife is at home and about to get pregnant and I want to be there!

If you thought that was funny read this below.

"BlackRock also said the European Central Bank should buy more bonds

Now that is fucking funny,

There are two kinds of funny:

Funny = nun with a flying habit.

Funny = nun with a $200 dollar a day habit.

Mon, 11/14/2011 - 12:39 | 1875851 RobD
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"write-downs for private creditor" 

So only private creditors get shanked?

Mon, 11/14/2011 - 13:11 | 1875954 mayhem_korner
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'member GM?  Pathology doesn't discriminate...

Won't matter much in the end.

Mon, 11/14/2011 - 12:43 | 1875868 FL_Conservative
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How shocking that Blackrock suggests that the PIG be scalped, but that the ECB should buy (Italian) bonds in the open market.  Hhhmmmmm.....not serving thyself first, are we????

Mon, 11/14/2011 - 12:43 | 1875869 ZeroPoint
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I am glad someone is moving the football down the field to 100% write off. That's where it's going anyway.


Mon, 11/14/2011 - 12:48 | 1875887 Tsar Pointless
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Up until now, it's been "three yards and a cloud of dust" for the offense.

Finally, somebody had the guts to throw the long bomb.

Now if somebody could just get into the end zone and end this stupid game.

Mon, 11/14/2011 - 12:46 | 1875875 defn8Dog
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ZH, it doesn't matter.   Joe LaVorgna just said the US market has de-coupled from Europe, the S&P is going to 1300 in the next month and a half and the Super Committee is a shoo-in to git 'er done.  End of story.

Mon, 11/14/2011 - 12:48 | 1875879 Caviar Emptor
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I said it last week: the world changed the minute Euro agreed to Greek haircuts. And MFG happened the same week, with news of client losses and no rescue. It wasn't TBTF

That signalled that the era of full bailouts and complete backstopping by the Fed (and its cousins) is over. And risk has suddenly re-surfaced as a reality after 3 years of fantasy

Mon, 11/14/2011 - 13:11 | 1875955 Watson
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I agree. QE3/bailouts et al are all finished. Keeping the wheels turning looked like a (politically) good thing back in 2008, but the terms were far too generous, bailing out fools and also allowing the more astute to make money hand over fist in a now restricted market.
The result is Obama knows that any further largesse guarantees he will not be reelected.
So when BAC implodes the checking accounts/250K FDIC will be honoured, but thats it.
The debt in the system needs to be reduced, not increased (or even inflated away).
And that is exactly what is going to happen...

Mon, 11/14/2011 - 12:47 | 1875880 Dapper Dan
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Todays stock tip from a poster at http://www.wunderground.com/blog/JeffMasters/comment.html?entrynum=1987

An interesting economic side effect of the flooding in Bangkok is a developing shortage of disk drives that go into PCs. Bangkok is a hub for disk drive producers such as Western Digital. These plants will be off line for months or years because their factory floors were flooded, damaging their equipment.

The company I work for specializes in buying and selling hard-to-find electronic components. Our business in hard drives has spiked recently. Compounding the problem is that businesses like ours (including my own company) have been buying up any available drives on the after-market, which has eliminated the normal buffer in the supply chain.

This will raise the cost of PCs and laptops that use hard drives, which will create another economic ripple. Tablets and PCs that use solid-state drives will become more competitively priced compared to traditional PCs that use hard drives.

So, because it rained in Thailand, someone in the US will be getting a new tablet instead of a new laptop on Christmas morning.

Mon, 11/14/2011 - 16:49 | 1876882 radish juice
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Hmm! time pull funds from this brokerage house

Mon, 11/14/2011 - 19:32 | 1877378 winterswimmer
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A 99% haircut is fine. Jus' leave a few hairs in the middle, like a pseudo-Mohican...

Mon, 11/14/2011 - 19:34 | 1877385 winterswimmer
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But if we cut off the balls of Trichet, Papademos, G-Pap and Bernanke (amongst others) we MIGHT just keep our hair on, to a certain extent....

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