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Italy Welcomes Its New Brussels Overlords
It was nice knowing you "sovereign" Italy. Next time get a "technocrat" PM/FinMin who is not a certified card carrying agent for a major banking cartel.
- MONTI SAYS EUROPE'S INDICATIONS ARE IN ITALY'S BEST INTERSETS
- MONTI SAYS EU CAN HELP ITALY DEVELOP BETTER POLICIES
- MONTI SAYS EU IS NOT A `CONSTRAINT' FOR ITALY
- MONTI SAYS ITALY'S PROGRAM PRESENTED TO EU IS `STARTING POINT'
Oh, and good luck finding that gold, a topic which finally makes the mainstream FT several weeks after Zero Hedge tentatively suggested that it's gone... It's all gone.
h/t Mike Krieger
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As another Monti (Burns) would say - 'Eeeexcellent'.
As a purveyor of German-style fiscal-sadism, Monti will make even Southern Italy into a colony of serfs indentured to the ECB. Welcome to the new world order: Italy meet your master: Lloyd Blankfein. Excellent indeed. Monti = Super Smithers.
WHERE IS ZEE GOLD, BURLESCOWSKI?!
All your raviolis are belong to us!
Blankfein really doesnt understand Italians. Try to steal more from the Italian people my guess is that he probably wont have any teeth left to chew on his bagels. The world has had enough of the scumbags from Goldman Sachs someday they will have to answer for their greed.
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as much as I was a fan of Berlusconi - this is only propaganda. Typical "they are different - they are bad" tabloid propaganda.
Monti has been appointed by the blasted President of the Republic Napolitano (yes, Napolitano is a former communist, elected by Senate & Parliament).
This is all constitutional. He can be toppled anytime by a "Vote of Confidence", like the 51 VoCs Berlusconi survived until he met his 52nd.
He needs to find majorities in both chambers for everything. It's called a "technical Government" (not technocratic) in Italy. There were lots of them before the first Berlusconi gov. The blasted Lower Chamber could anytime find some other majority and send him home - only then they would have to work together and take some responsibility, which is hard for typical MPs.
So back down you conspiracy theorists and give him the customary hundred days so that he finds enough rope to hang himself.
He is now the PM of one of the most fiercely pro-EU countries that was co-founding member since the Treaty of Rome.
He is preaching to choir.
Greek and Italian partisans are already organizing the resistance.
Merkel will be kicked out of Greece and Italy, just like her daddy was kicked out back in the 40s.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2054406/Furious-Greeks-lampoon-G...
Oh do be quiet, man.
Let's just interject some facts into your apoligia for Monti.
Fact, Chairmen of the European branch of the Tri-Lateral Commission.
Fact, Member of Bilderberg group (not atendee...MEMBER)
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/11/14/italy-monti-idUSL5E7MD0DO20111114
Fact, Goldman Sachs European advisor. (Per ZH using Goldman Sachs materials)
Naw, I'm sure this guy is on the up and up. Why all three of those just SCREAM democracy and open transparent government. STFU, with that conspiracy theory non-sense, that can't be used to end rational fact based discussion anymore. Those groups are secretive by nature and therefore are conspiracy FACT.
I am no friend of appointees of Napolitano
Bilderberg? Well, lots of people attend this club - is there any proof that they are subversive? Freaking Maggie Tatcher? The Queen of Holland? Anyone? Facts? Really?
GS? We will see if Monti will be Italian first and Squid second or not. Austerity? Lots of citizens want austerity there.
My point is that the guy is constitutionally legit and he has to convince for every law hundreds of MPs in a country that loves the EU. This is a fact.
Your point about Italian parliment is fine.
Your use of the term Conspiracy Theory is just slander and undermines viable discussion. It's a way in which to stop critical thinking with a buzz word that just so happens helps to cloak any and all elite collusion under a catch all phrase that summons up paranoia and mental instability in those at which the term is hurled.
Can you prove that Bilderberg is a force for good? Perhaps their ULTRA secretive stance is to hide their good nature eh? Perhaps Mother Theresa would have been more effective in her minstrations to the poor if she had retreats at resorts under high military security, with minimal media coverage and massive secrecy?
Lets see historically speaking how many ultra secret groups involving the top echelons of power have been forces for good? Hmm, can't really think or more than perhaps a handful during the Renaissance and that was due to the Vatican being a Hegemon at that time.
Other than those very few examples, the OVERWHELMING MAJORITY have been forces for evil, places where coups were cooked up and other byzantine plots for power.
Of course it's difficult to pull out factual information on exactly how Bilderberg operates as an organization, that speaks to the TREMENDOUS effort made to have all their discussions be extremely secretive. Likley it's for the common good...right?
If you buy that I have some MF Global bonds to sell you.
Well, we can't prove anything about Bilderberg.
Yes, the evidence is there that they meet, sometimes with some aspiring politicians like Maggie Thatcher, that then often have a shot at a greater audience. A lot of quite known VIPs are there, including a couple of royals, etc. etc.
Forces of evil? That's my problem with "conspiracy theories", they assume groups want to be "forces of evil". They meet - they don't want you to be there and they don't release their minutes.
So what? Any club can do this. They are not that ultra secret anyway. And I can understand people that don't want to be bothered by the press all the time. Would you, if you were one of them, have the press at every meeting? Really?
The real evil of this world is done in front of our eyes, IMHO. In the case of Mr. Monti, we'll have to wait and see what laws and decrees he puts forward...
Um, what about terrorism? What about the Mafia and other organized crime? What about the Triad? What about the Yakuza? What about the KGB? What about various intelligence agencies involved in Coup D'etat's, torture and extrajudicial murder and drug running? All of these things are confirmed fact. All occur at the behest of groups that operate in secret, whether on the behalf of governments or for ideological/political/monetary reasons. What about any number of historically documented incidences where rich and powerful people met in secret to foment Coup D'etat's against governments? What did that all go away magically sometime in the distant past? Humans have moved beyond greed and lust for power as motivators? Come on! Read some history!
As to Bilderbergs, we aren't talking about a few folks at a country club, we are talking about the most powerful men and women in the world. The richest men and women in the world. They are meeting to influence policy and politics this is known by both explicit fact (endorsement of multiple US presidential and Vice Presidential nominees leading to VP selections and US presidency frontrunners...FACT) and also inference. We know that policies have been discussed, and businesse and government actions have been synchornized at these meetings yet these are NOT official capacity meetings, yet they effect official policy decisions. This is in no way democratic or representative of the will of the people these policy makers supposedly represent.
If you don't find Bilderberg meetings to be just a tad questionable, well then I submit that you are extremely trusting and likely to a fault.
This is why GS is long Eur/USD.
What the fuck is that supposed to mean? I though those Keynesian assholes had determined gold isn't money, hence why would there be any requirement at all? Fuck it, sell it all, if it's as worthless as you make it out to be.
Actually, I just recall - during the Greek hyperinflation in the 40'es, the powers that be repeatedly attempted to stabilise the Drachma - through the selling of gold.
Makes sense: sell Gold, reduce currency in circulation, reduce black market prifits and curb inflation.
Quick call Mervin King - oh wait, Gordon Brown sold it already.
Precisely, let the masses play with gold after all they are idiots and the NWO will confiscate it later anyway. Where have I seen this play out before? Hhhmmmmm.
How long do you think it takes before the Italian people offer Monti the Mussolini retirement package?
You're talkin' 'bout a revolution.
Revolution? Monti is an appointed leader, not an elected leader. I'm talking more like a "disappointment."
So was Louis XVI - by God.
I don't think a revolution requires democratically elected leaders.
They're a conquered people.
I have seen zero indication that they have the spine to stand up to the cartel.
Yes, they foolishly have been the most europhiles in Europe up to now, just because they despised so much their elected political class. So they just loved the idea of being governed by Germany.
Now that they taste the real thing I wonder about their reaction. My guess is that when they will realize how much screwed they are, it will be too late anyway (they will be already homeless and destitute).
All those technocrats are so politically correct and nice at the beginning! They even use the words EUROPE'S INDICATIONS instead of more understandable and correct ones - EUROPE'S INSTRUCTIONS !
Correctness would mean: "Germany's ORDERS"
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Hi Saul. STFU
Thanksgiving sees Merkel, Sarko, and Monti meeting together in France to stage manage their next move.
The man is great. I also love his credo: TO TAX OR NOT TO TAX, WE'LL TAX IT ANYWAY!
Tax it to death, SD.
Reagan on government: "If it moves tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. If it stops moving, subsidize it!"
Make it clear, Reagan was describing how the democrats in govt. handled the economy. He was mocking them and this was not his position. Now be true and quit trying to re-write history.
"The Spinners" -- NOT just a singing group! :>D
When you read "European" or "EU", you may freely and rightly replace them with "Germany".
Some 315 million people are getting raped and nobody gets it here...
Aaah, what the heck, let's watch the X-Factor one more time...
Those 315 milliion rape victims must wake up, organize and protest. We get it: we would probably be "all in" on that with our riot cameras replacing X-Factor.
Monti is a jesuit ex alumn; barroso is a jesuit ex alumn; mr.bean-draghi ex alumn; they report to dr. ratzinger in vatican.
Ad majorem Dei gloriam...
It's all one big, happy, leveraged, novus ordo seclorum, isn't it ?
So delusional. So which is it Jesuit or Zionist? You people are so afraid of every bogeyman that appears in your psyche. So full of hate. It blinds your trust and makes reason unaccountable. For this, you have been branded a slave and you see it as freedom. As if your license is freedom.
That shit with Vatican has showed up recently, probably some kind of new Zionist tactics, but I leave it to your judgment, you're so strong on psychological side that it will be nothing for you to find proper answers. Definitly reject hate!
Hey, I've got a PhD from a jesuit university! Why I am unemployed? I reclaim my top eurocrat job!
... and poof. It's gone.
well, we have no proof they're all poofs, butt the gold is definitely gone
well the algos must love that news, what's with the vertical line up this morning? Oil is up over 1% again and the market indexes must have thought the lower GDP print means QE3 is coming nomatter what.
OT but BB just reported JPM is close to a deal to buy the LBME. God help us all. The only plus is we will probably be able to load up on gold when they monkey hammer it. Only the good old boys will get the inside info on when they are going to swing it and which way.
How are these officials taking seats without elections? I mean this must be unlawful in some aspect of EU law, no? And they wonder why Italians riot.....Now the rioters just need to "physically remove" them from office.
It should be becoming more apparent to everyone that the central planners and one world government is in complete control and asserting their power over Europe right now. There are NO sovereign nations left on this planet and in Europe in particular. Good luck all.
That Margaritaville episode of South Park never gets old.
you been watching mainstream tv I suppose...if not what do you suggest!
Italy needs a bat signal, like the OWS has
#Occupy Bat Signal for the 99%http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=n2-T6ox_tgM#!
Please do not worry about Italy and Greece, Mr. Monti and Mr. Papademos are members of the so-called Trilateral Commission (founded by Mr. Rockefeller in 1973) and were appointed by powerful representatives of the banking world. Any questions regarding further developments in these countries. Look at Iceland for reference.
new imsaul0968 Please take your crap elsewhere. Get lost. We have no use for you.
Now, they're playing "Simon Says". Simon says, get down on your knees and say, "May I?" Did Italy say "May I?" How will France respond? The schism between the leadership of nations and their people is widening.
http://georgesblogforum.wordpress.com/2011/11/02/the-daily-climb-2/
.......Monti WAS NOT elected by the people................
Burn him out...!!!
"Aaaaaaaand, it's gone."
LOL.
South Park was so prescient. I love this clip.
http://www.therundown.tv/videos/misc-videos/south-park-and-its-gone-scene/
maybe after they default they can make their new currency out of delicious little mini pizzas.
Just one simple question , if the Euro is so doomed then why aren't we seeing it on the currency markets too ? All I see is 10 yr US at 1.95 and financial institutions in the US going bust. Ie dollar really becoming worthless and handed out for next to nothing. I'd be happy to see a Euro 1.2 vs USD or 1.5 vs GBP.
As for violence in Italy rest assured that the only violence you'll see is the typical socialist crowd bent on ignorant protests no matter what the cause, its simply in their DNA all over the world , hey even in the US . Look at the stupid flags they wave ? All red ! Hardly a riot when a few thousand commies throw stones in Rome. We've had much worse from them in the past.
Your views of Italy are vastly skewed towards idiotic stereotypes that make me wonder if board members of ZH are actually Alabama pig farmers typing drivel behind a shed on their mamas laptop. A country where most don't have a passport .....stick to the pizza and ravioli stereotypes..makes you look very clever indeed ...
Also all this nonsense and quite frankly ignorant fact that Monti was not an elected PM is pretty funny. Infact whilst no election has indeed taken place , elected members of Parliament almost unanimously voted for Monti . 556 to 61 .
When Gordon Brown took over from Blair in the UK , who had elected Brown ? no one. He was appointed internally . Its how it works. Were there riots then ? nope despite Brown being a disaster !!
Monti's appointment is seen as beneficial to the country ( or at least thats the hope) in order to apease the spiralling spreads on treasuries, as the anti Berlusconi propaganda and continous trials did not allow Berlusconi to lead appropriately.I suppose partly self inflicted.
More importantly he had effectively lost a confidence vote. Elections would have taken too long and the country does not need to open a vicious political debate at this moment. Monti's election is seen as an interim solution . This nonsense about revolutions etc is so comical. You guys have too much time to dream up stuff. Germany ruling Italy ? haha I guess your history only goes back a very short while - bless. I suggest you take history lessons and read who has ruled Europe both economically and culturally. Italy , Britain , but hardly Germany.
Only thing I agree with here is long Gold trade . The rest is c**p !!