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It's Official: America Is Now As Dumb As A Bag Of Hammers

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Ever wonder why America will elect precisely the president it deserves in just over a year? Here's why.

2011 SAT Reading Scores hit all-time low

h/t John Lohman

 

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Wed, 09/14/2011 - 17:42 | 1670459 tsx500
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looks like my 401 i mean 201k performance chart

Wed, 09/14/2011 - 17:42 | 1670460 alien-IQ
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this is easily explained by the increase in blonds in the population.

Wed, 09/14/2011 - 17:42 | 1670462 trillion_dollar...
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I blame Halo.

Wed, 09/14/2011 - 18:19 | 1670677 falak pema
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Can't blame the Injuns , the commies, the hippies, must be a new breed; the incult.

Inculto delenda est...sounds very juicy...but I'm playing on innuendo as I can't tie my shoe strings.

I don't wear those shoes no more. Thats progress. Every thing comes easy. Maybe it'll soon becum "came".

Wed, 09/14/2011 - 17:42 | 1670463 pragmatic hobo
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support at 500 have been violated. I see next stop at 480. The Fibonacci pivot point at 460 is a set up for rebound but I advise clients to sell the rally while buying the dip.

Wed, 09/14/2011 - 20:11 | 1671142 blunderdog
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Don't worry.  It'll never go below 200.

Wed, 09/14/2011 - 20:50 | 1671296 scratch_and_sniff
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If it drops another 10% does that mean we get QE3?

Wed, 09/14/2011 - 17:43 | 1670465 Segestan
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Looks like a Union endorsed Globalization/multicult chart. " A society is only as good as the minds that goes to make up said.. Society"

Wed, 09/14/2011 - 17:43 | 1670466 The Fonz...befo...
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I blame the Internet

Wed, 09/14/2011 - 17:45 | 1670469 RacerX
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does this include all the "undocumenteds"?

 

and hey, the students may have low reading scores, but yo they got street cred!

Wed, 09/14/2011 - 18:05 | 1670611 mr. mirbach
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"undocumentards"

Wed, 09/14/2011 - 17:46 | 1670470 TomJoad
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So it's gone down 1% in 30 years? (502 in 1981 to 497 in 2011)  It is certainly the end of the world as we know it.

 

 

Jump! You Fuckers!

 From a currently unemployed 1984 National Merit Scholar with an 800 Engish SAT score. Barely broke 700 in Math so I could be wrong. ;) 

Wed, 09/14/2011 - 17:47 | 1670491 SheepDog-One
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Nice technique to pick low-to-low point, nevermind the avg in '73 was 530.

 

Wed, 09/14/2011 - 17:50 | 1670509 TomJoad
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I was trying to add "I wonder what happened between 1973 and 1980? Flouridation?" when you posted your comment.

Wed, 09/14/2011 - 17:55 | 1670550 Caviar Emptor
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A few recreational pharmaceuticals

Wed, 09/14/2011 - 17:56 | 1670559 SheepDog-One
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And just think around the early 70's, all the college bound kids were trippin on LSD!

Wed, 09/14/2011 - 22:13 | 1671555 IQ 145
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If I could remember 1969; at all, I could be more specific about this, but I'm pretty sure LSD is harmless.

Wed, 09/14/2011 - 19:11 | 1670890 TheFourthStooge-ing
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I was trying to add "I wonder what happened between 1973 and 1980? Flouridation?" when you posted your comment.

The US Department of Education was established in 1979.

 

Wed, 09/14/2011 - 19:52 | 1671074 Dingleberry
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I think it's hydroponic pot that is numbing these little shits brains. That shit is a lot stronger now than back in the day.....besides, see what all this fucking TEXTING has done? The fucking idiots CAN"T READ NOW!!!!

Wed, 09/14/2011 - 17:46 | 1670473 UGrev
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If that graph represented the performance of a Bank CEO, he'd be getting one fat, mother-effin, bonus!! BOOYA!

Wed, 09/14/2011 - 17:44 | 1670474 uno
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just start the scoring from 530, problem solved, smartest kids ever

Wed, 09/14/2011 - 17:44 | 1670475 Cassandra Syndrome
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Buy The Failed Dunce bitchez....

Wed, 09/14/2011 - 17:45 | 1670479 The Fonz...befo...
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I cdnuolt blveiee taht I cluod aulaclty uesdnatnrd waht I was rdanieg. The phaonmneal pweor of the hmuan mnid, aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, t he olny iprmoatnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteer be in the rgh it pclae. The rset can be a taotl mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit a porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe. Amzanig huh? yaeh and I awlyas tghuhot slpeling was ipmorantt! if you can raed tihs psas it on !!"

Wed, 09/14/2011 - 17:45 | 1670480 CapEdge
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So, you're saying I've got a chance??

Wed, 09/14/2011 - 17:50 | 1670482 rapier
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Literacy in the Confederacy of full persons, not slaves, was perhaps only 40% and as we know that was the greatest democracy in history.  Literacy in New England, den of abolitionists was double that. Only be reducing literacy, and hell who knows, bringing back slavery, can this nation be saved.

 

Wed, 09/14/2011 - 18:33 | 1670743 caerus
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we are, as john kennedy toole put it, a confederacy of dunces

Wed, 09/14/2011 - 22:17 | 1671567 IQ 145
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Hear, Hear ! Boy, that IPA works fast ! Hops, Bitchaez ! It's not just for breakfast anymore.

Wed, 09/14/2011 - 17:46 | 1670483 Mister Minsk
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There's always room for improvement!

Wed, 09/14/2011 - 22:20 | 1671575 IQ 145
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Pardon me, but if you answer 400 questions correctly on the Math and Reasoning test, for two points each; where is the room for improvement ? Or was this irony, or one of them other things I'm not real good at.

Wed, 09/14/2011 - 17:47 | 1670484 SqueekyFromm
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I don't understand this thread.

Squeeky Fromm, Girl Reporter (Squeekyville High -Class of 02)

Wed, 09/14/2011 - 18:07 | 1670621 MichaelG
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Your not a loan.

Thu, 09/15/2011 - 00:52 | 1671988 SqueekyFromm
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Oh, NOW I get it!!! Hammers come in BOXES, not bags. Duh, I fill like a idiot.

Squeeky Fromm, Girl Reporter

Wed, 09/14/2011 - 17:47 | 1670486 Rodent Freikorps
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I was looking through all the events of 1973.

That was one crazy year.

Wed, 09/14/2011 - 22:24 | 1671584 IQ 145
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I'll take your word for it; I was just starting to remember things again around 1973. 1969 seems to have ended when I attended a youth event in Golden Gate Park that involved tiny blue pills; but I'm assured by friends (?) that I had a good time.

Wed, 09/14/2011 - 17:49 | 1670505 Cheyenne
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Didn't they dumb that test down in about '94?

Originally, I thought, each side of the test--math and verbal--was supposed to have a mean score of 500. And it was set up so each 100-point jump either way was 1 standard deviation.

But the country got so dumb that they had to jigger the exam with easier questions and/or birth-death-style adjustments such that it's basically impossible to compare different-era scores.

Another weird thing was the disappearance--in absolute numbers, not just on a % basis--of the number of test takers hitting the 750 verbal level. I think the Wall Street Journal wrote about it in the early 1990s. As I recall, no one had an answer for why that was.

Wed, 09/14/2011 - 17:51 | 1670526 SheepDog-One
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The SAT's of today are nowhere near what they were in 1950 thats for damn sure. Now theyre all 'Rain forest math' and 'racially accomodative' and all that PC bullcrap.

Wed, 09/14/2011 - 17:56 | 1670553 The Fonz...befo...
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Plus 1 for "rainforest math" that's brilliant

Wed, 09/14/2011 - 22:27 | 1671593 IQ 145
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"Rain Forest Math" Bwa-haa-haa. Too cool. Hey, God must have loved us, he gave us beer!  You do know, don't you that Hops is closely related to Cannabis? You didn't know that? well, there you go, bippy, and its legal, Hic.

Wed, 09/14/2011 - 22:41 | 1671624 Rodent Freikorps
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Beer is what caused mankind to finally settle down and create civilization.

He needed to farm to get a reliable crop to make beer.

Wed, 09/14/2011 - 17:57 | 1670567 Judge Holden
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My theory: A greater percentage of people could be taking the SAT now.  Perhaps it was originally confined to people applying to the top teir schools (and thus, smarter-than-average people).  Once everyone started taking it, it watered down the average.

Wed, 09/14/2011 - 18:09 | 1670631 MichaelG
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*tier

Wed, 09/14/2011 - 22:30 | 1671599 IQ 145
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Dude, it's a judge; what do you want? literacy ? you want literacy, go to the library, already. Ha. Ha. oH, Oh, I'm getting whoopsy.

Wed, 09/14/2011 - 18:18 | 1670669 NotApplicable
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I'm sure there's some truth to that, given the numbers of stupid kids who go to college. But I bet it still declines amongst all segments of the population (except for immigrants or their kids).

Wed, 09/14/2011 - 22:33 | 1671605 IQ 145
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No, no , no. It's not true. The National Merit Scholarship Test  was given to the entire seniour high school class; to "standardize" the test. You'll have to look that up. I'm getting drunk, but not because i'm a superannuated useless old degenerate; it's because I'm suffering from Angst ! So there, put me down as a victim. Anyway, what the fuck was this about; oh yeah, the test, well, look it up; he's wrong.

Wed, 09/14/2011 - 17:50 | 1670511 Gubbmint Cheese
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Was gonna read it - but then thought I'd wait for the movie. I hear Matt Damon is going to be the lead.

"Matt Damon" - Team America

Wed, 09/14/2011 - 22:36 | 1671611 IQ 145
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Matt Damon ! Matt Damon ! What about his co-star Ben Affleck; he's much better looking and besides he's my cousin; or else my mothers sister is a lying bitch; which is pretty likely.

Wed, 09/14/2011 - 17:50 | 1670512 xtop23
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Yet they accuse Ron Paul of being against education because he wants to dismantle the Dept. Of Education.

Well ...... it clearly isnt working so lets throw a shitload more money down that rabbit hole in the name of education.

Ridiculous.

Wed, 09/14/2011 - 22:37 | 1671616 IQ 145
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The first thing to do if you find yourself standing in a hole is; stop digging. However, this completely mystifys the military and the federal  government.

Wed, 09/14/2011 - 17:51 | 1670513 HomerToeclipper
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Well, we now know why the banking oligarchs chose this point in time to put Obama in office and pull their shenanigans.

Wed, 09/14/2011 - 17:50 | 1670515 snowball777
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Are they trying to say poor readers will identify with Bachmann or just Republicans in general?
A campaign technique hitherto be known as 'Corndoggin' (works for Perry too, I guess).

/sarc

 

Ron 'Angry Gramps' Paul can read, even if he's the Libertarian's equivalent of Howard Dean.

Mittney will be drawn out when Perry's overlords command funds to be moved.

 

Wed, 09/14/2011 - 18:05 | 1670610 Rodent Freikorps
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Romney is the choice of establishment, country club republicans.

Karl Rove, and that Ivy League carpet bagger Bush, dig them some Romney.

Wed, 09/14/2011 - 17:58 | 1670519 EvlTheCat
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I just hit the inverse function key F666..  Shits all good!

Wed, 09/14/2011 - 17:51 | 1670522 LongSoupLine
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Ok, now show the asian american SAT (read: inverse) chart.

Wed, 09/14/2011 - 17:51 | 1670527 Caviar Emptor
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Just like with CPI, educational consumers merely 'substitute' expensive learning for cheap learning.

So we need to adjust the score upward to reflect that. 

There. Problem solved.

Wed, 09/14/2011 - 17:54 | 1670528 Shirley Wilfahrt
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No Banker Left Behind

 

 

 

 

Bitchez.

 

Wed, 09/14/2011 - 18:08 | 1670629 Cult of Criminality
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Good one

Wed, 09/14/2011 - 17:53 | 1670530 fyrebird
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The answer is homeschooling.

Saw that chart in my nightmares 20 years ago, back when I was still teaching in public education. They were then just introducing all kinds of deseased crap in testing and ebonics and "educational reform". I now write software and my own kids have never set foot in a brick+mortar school.

At 11 and 15, they just finished acting lead roles in Hamlet. They are brilliant and can read anything; the 11 yo is now reading Hound of the Baskervilles.

Kids are amazing. Just stay out of their way and they'll run far and fast.

-= fyre =-

Wed, 09/14/2011 - 17:56 | 1670555 i love cholas
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i hate to be a dick but home school kids were always a bit "off".

Wed, 09/14/2011 - 18:02 | 1670598 tmosley
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You sure it isn't actually everyone else?

Wed, 09/14/2011 - 22:45 | 1671639 IQ 145
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Why hate yourself for being a dick, when you could hate yourself for being a fool ? And, part of the problem. Every item of propaganda that may fall on fertile ground does damage.

Thu, 09/15/2011 - 01:29 | 1672057 chindit13
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What, you think a child should be forced to learn to interact and socialize outside of his immediate gene pool?

How terribly.......human.

Wed, 09/14/2011 - 18:11 | 1670638 MichaelG
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*diseased

Wed, 09/14/2011 - 18:23 | 1670697 jdelano
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"deseased" lol. Open mouth, insert foot

Wed, 09/14/2011 - 22:44 | 1671635 IQ 145
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depends on the genetics; one meaning of IQ 90 is: never learns to read with adult speed and comprehension. If the genetics  are there, they're unstoppable and conventional education is largely meaningless. But, and this is a big but; it can do un-limited harm. unlimited. I've seen it. it's not pretty. Home schooling is very good.

Wed, 09/14/2011 - 19:15 | 1670531 Sequitur
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Dear Tylers:

You are so spot on with this one. Americans are dumb, period. If you speak with the general population about something more complex than a box score or reality television, a high percentage of the time, the person has no idea what you are talking about. None. Heck, you can sometimes even see the stupidity in someone's face. And say this humbly -- I'm no genius, I get many things wrong, people are smarter than me.

Great post. Great.

Wed, 09/14/2011 - 20:30 | 1671208 blunderdog
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If you speak with the general population about something more complex than a box score or reality television, a high percentage of the time, the person has no idea what you are talking about.

Maybe that's because you're batshit crazy and most folks can't follow your psychotic rants?

(I kid!  Too easy.)

Seriously though, people ignore a lot of stuff because that's what is *encouraged* in this society.  If you ever try to bring up politics or the economy in a professional work environment, for example, HR will tell you not to do it.  Try a social setting where any kind of "decorum" is expected.  Or an academic environment.  VERY consistently the conversation will be redirected by people for fear of "upsetting" anyone.

This infantilism is our downfall. 

Lots of people have learned, rightly or wrongly, that if you're being contradicted or disputed, the most effective response is shouting and (threats of) violence.  We, as a PEOPLE, can't really discuss ANY kind of contentious issue in that social environment.

Wed, 09/14/2011 - 17:52 | 1670532 Rick Blaine
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"Growth?"

Wed, 09/14/2011 - 17:52 | 1670534 bob_dabolina
Wed, 09/14/2011 - 17:53 | 1670540 Lmo Mutton
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Get that chart outa the way, I b fixn a high score this bitch.

Wed, 09/14/2011 - 17:54 | 1670543 zerozulu
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First we need to learn how to make things. Than we read about them. Right now kids are trying to read what is written in Chinese.

Wed, 09/14/2011 - 17:54 | 1670545 AmazingLarry
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Looks exactly like the SPX over the past month. I'm still short greed and now you're telling me I should short dumb now, too!!??

Wed, 09/14/2011 - 18:12 | 1670639 Kassandra
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I thought that WAS the SPX...reading too fast~~

Wed, 09/14/2011 - 17:54 | 1670546 i love cholas
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We can't read good

Wed, 09/14/2011 - 17:55 | 1670549 Revolution_star...
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Insert Carlin here:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FAA8lHW8wE

 

Step one, know it for what it is.

Wed, 09/14/2011 - 17:56 | 1670556 dexter_morgan
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Like the movie Idiocracy. I like money..........

Wed, 09/14/2011 - 17:57 | 1670561 TwelfthVulture
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"I resent that remark." - A. Bag O'Hammers

Thu, 09/15/2011 - 00:03 | 1671867 hidingfromhelis
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"I resemble that remark."  Avery G. Toole

Wed, 09/14/2011 - 17:57 | 1670562 OutLookingIn
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Oh see Dick and Jane.

See Dick throw the ball to Jane.

See Spot run. Run Spot!

Thar. I kin reed good, cause I bean schooled.

(sarc off)

Wed, 09/14/2011 - 17:57 | 1670563 mr. mirbach
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Sadly it is not just about reading, it is also about comprehension. Kids can read the words, but they can't figure out what the words mean. 

Dumbing down Amerikan skool children has been the goal of TPTB since the late '60's when it they realized that the educational system was turning out independant thinkers capable of connecting the dots to the conclusion that the Military Industrail Complex, Wall Street and Government were (and still are) all on cahoots and that their master plan was perpetual war, planned obsolesence, depletion of natural resources and serfdom for the plebs.

TPTB are right on target!

Wed, 09/14/2011 - 18:14 | 1670645 MichaelG
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*Industrial

Wed, 09/14/2011 - 19:56 | 1671099 Blano
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You're really fucking annoying.

Spell check that, dipshit.

Wed, 09/14/2011 - 22:50 | 1671652 IQ 145
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If  you find reality annoying; you may have a problem.

Wed, 09/14/2011 - 22:51 | 1671660 IQ 145
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You realize, of course, that it's hopeless ? Amerikan Skool--

Wed, 09/14/2011 - 17:58 | 1670564 wretch
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I hope we all realize that SAT scores are a trailing and a future indicator of the state of education.  Right?  Unless I'm missing something, I'd guess a gap of at least 10 years in either direction, but it's fuzzy. 

And I wouldn't limit my list of causes to presidential policy, either.  I'd put technology and alienation high on the list, for that group of kids and their parents' generation.

My deep concern is for the future.  The prior nadir on that chart, in the early 1990s (my class), inflicted pretty serious consequences on the country's ability to even present itself as hosting intelligent life.  It's been a hell of a new millenium, bravely embraced by my peer group of idiots.  But the new generation coming up?  It's the difference between a domesticated dog and a feral one trained to fight.  I find both states abhorrent, but...

Wed, 09/14/2011 - 17:58 | 1670569 Spigot
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This metric is intended to hoover around 500 +/- and is adjusted yearly to assure that AVERAGE for all tests taken in any specific year is about 500. There is no absolute reference here. Its used as a means of filtering applicants for colleges, no more or less.

If you want to know what the grade of incoming freshmen is then talk to a seasoned college prof...their comments will chill you to the core.

Wed, 09/14/2011 - 18:16 | 1670659 MichaelG
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*hover. We can fight this, bitchez! One tpyo at a time!!

Wed, 09/14/2011 - 18:39 | 1670772 Spigot
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I love you too, man. You're the bomb.

Thu, 09/15/2011 - 00:15 | 1671897 hidingfromhelis
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Even his tpyos are bitchin'; what's not to love?

Wed, 09/14/2011 - 23:14 | 1671729 IQ 145
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Not if you're Canadian; if you're Canadian it's definetely "hoover", eh, hoser?

Wed, 09/14/2011 - 23:13 | 1671723 IQ 145
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That's right. The professors know what test scores mean, but they're not allowed to talk about it. Obamma was processed thru Harvard Law School; I use the word in a similar vein to manufacturing processed cheese; it's an amazing thing to meditate on.

Wed, 09/14/2011 - 17:58 | 1670576 The Fonz...befo...
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First let's all get this straight..it's is no longer called education....

It is now called indoctrination

Free thinkers are a rare breed in our society

Wed, 09/14/2011 - 18:14 | 1670647 mr. mirbach
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that is exactly what Glenn Beck said!

But on a serious note... schools no longer teach English, they teach Language Arts. WTF is that anyway?

 

Wed, 09/14/2011 - 19:31 | 1670998 TheFourthStooge-ing
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But on a serious note... schools no longer teach English, they teach Language Arts. WTF is that anyway?

It's maeking pictuers with teh ASCII lettars.........FIXED PITCHES BITCHEZ!!!1!!1!

 

Wed, 09/14/2011 - 17:59 | 1670581 jdelano
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No worries. The iPhone 5 comes with an implantable literacy chip.

Wed, 09/14/2011 - 17:59 | 1670582 cabtrom
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I dont get it, so 500 students got a skor of over 2,010? This is mutch hyer skor than 1,973 this is imroovment.

Wed, 09/14/2011 - 18:00 | 1670585 mynhair
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Is this from Oweblahma's time at Columbia?

Wed, 09/14/2011 - 18:01 | 1670588 Hedgetard55
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Yes, that is the dumb downed version they are using today. Racially correct. Has some questions in ebonics, etc.

Bernanke scored an 800 on this test back in the day.

 

Wed, 09/14/2011 - 18:01 | 1670589 blindman
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what they fail to mention or evaluate is that most of what is used
to test reading ability is not worth reading and is poorly written.
i suspect .... so ....
"hey teacher, leave those kids alone
all in all your just another
brick in the wall." j.w. ?

bag of hammers bitches !

...and other complaints concerning miss education, medication
and the so called evaluation / grading process.
the fault clearly need be laid at the steps of the learning
institutions and their financial underpinnings.

Wed, 09/14/2011 - 18:02 | 1670594 falak pema
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Hammer head sharks and shattered pinhead shards.

Bags of blood and barrels of oily mud

I can't spell SAT it always comes out as shat. 

In Deutch its not the reading score its the breeding score

In China its the writing on the empty wall

In Japan its the Fuku Fuji jujitsu

In Italy its the bunga of the gunga crowd.

in Iceland its the holy smoking cloud

In Greece its the lost fleece

In France its the last dance

In US of A its lost honour of greenback

In Mehico its getting hi then into body bag

In Venezuela its maccho and its bold n bad

In Afghan its collateral damage and woman sad

In Brazil its hopium on sugar cum

In Artic its polar bear barb q

Nowhere is it paradisio

Maybe time to move to Cornucopia on Moon

 

 

 

Wed, 09/14/2011 - 23:18 | 1671739 IQ 145
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It's possible I was wrong about LSD being "harmless"; I'm willing to admit to this.

Thu, 09/15/2011 - 09:06 | 1672743 falak pema
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you must be on steroids then the type that shrinks the nuts n the brain.

Wed, 09/14/2011 - 18:02 | 1670597 Gringo Viejo
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Job Applicant:  So what does the job pay?

Prospective Employer: I'll pay you what you're worth.

Job Applicant: I can't work that cheap.

Wed, 09/14/2011 - 18:02 | 1670599 Montgomery Burns
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You don't need SAT scores to tell you that people are getting dumber. Just look at how many people borrow $100,000+ to get a degree that qualifies you for a job that pays $30k/yr.

Wed, 09/14/2011 - 18:04 | 1670607 10044
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+1m... F'ING AWESOME BRO.. JUST PRICELESS!!!

Wed, 09/14/2011 - 18:41 | 1670781 Spigot
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Yep, I notice they do not test for business sensibility either.

Wed, 09/14/2011 - 18:04 | 1670604 DirtMerchant
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I have to wonder if the government funding incentive spikes (ie no child left behind) coincide with SAT spikes?

Educators are not immune from corruption (see Detroit Public Schools)

 

Wed, 09/14/2011 - 18:05 | 1670608 divide_by_zero
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You can see the definite impact in the early 80s of the "Strivers" added points for minorities scores that "exceeded expectations" to increase scores and then the "re-centering" (dumbing down the test) in 94/95 back to a mean of 500 after that practice was stopped and scores tanked.

Wed, 09/14/2011 - 18:05 | 1670609 New_Meat
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What is the meaning of the chart?  Is it the median score?  Lots of commentary on a score that ranges between 200 and 800.  If it is the median, that means that there are High School Juniors and (maybe) Seniors who are (being forced?) to take the test with insufficient preparation.

See, e.g.: http://www.testmasters.net/SatAbout/Scoring-Scale

But, well, there was a recent thread on "Peak College".  Here ya go:

http://www.zerohedge.com/article/nia-release-s-college-conspiracy-video-...

So, it might not be "Stupid Americans", it might be "NEA Outcome Driven Feeder Mechanism toward the 'Higher Education' Bubble."

And there is all of this bitchin' about "Exploiting" college athletes.  How about "Exploiting" marginal students to get them into debt slavery.  College loans can't be discharged in a personal BK, don't cha' know.

- Ned

Wed, 09/14/2011 - 18:06 | 1670615 Mike in GA
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This is why teachers across America demand union representation...too many couldn't make it on their own merit. 

Now, decades later, they still have a job and we have these dumbed down kids.  Billions of tax dollars later and Johnny still can't read.

Wed, 09/14/2011 - 18:07 | 1670620 Cult of Criminality
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@ Tyler Durden

Love a lot of your article headings Tyler,You make me laugh even addressing serious subjects.I laugh because you are usually completely correct.The way you put words,line right up with my brains perception of reality usually.

Just a guess,thats probably why most people come here...well that and the planted stories of course lol

Cheers to ya

Wed, 09/14/2011 - 18:08 | 1670624 buzzsaw99
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Look who's talking. This blog reads like the ending of Flowers for Algernon sometimes.

Wed, 09/14/2011 - 23:24 | 1671751 IQ 145
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Could you give us a sample; I have no idea what a flower of  algernon is. If it's not an engineering t extbook, however, I refuse to be cowed by your erudition; all engineers know that things that are not engineering textbooks are "merely words".

Wed, 09/14/2011 - 18:13 | 1670628 PulauHantu29
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Bag of Hammers...oh, that hurts.

 

Top Test Scores From Shanghai Stun Educators By SAM DILLON Published: December 7, 2010

With China’s debut in international standardized testing, students in Shanghai have surprised experts by outscoring their counterparts in dozens of other countries, in reading as well as in math and science, according to the results of a respected exam.

In science, Shanghai students scored 575. In second place was Finland, where the average score was 554. The United States scored 502 — in 23rd place — with a performance indistinguishable from ...... Poland!

OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/07/education/07education.html

Better be no more Polock jokes....

Wed, 09/14/2011 - 18:49 | 1670759 reader2010
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Their education is a joke too.  Their students may know some trivia but they can't even tell the lies fed to them from the above because they don't have critical thinking abilities.

Wed, 09/14/2011 - 18:09 | 1670630 badameli
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well at least nobody is being left behind. Everyone will be bankrupt and illiterate together.

Wed, 09/14/2011 - 23:26 | 1671760 IQ 145
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Yes, Thank You Jeebus ! Nobody will be left behind !. Good point ! Hic. Boy, I'm getting up to cruising altitude now.

Wed, 09/14/2011 - 18:09 | 1670633 Trimmed Hedge
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So I'm assuming the "verbal" portion of the SAT is now called "reading"? I took mine a loooong time ago.

I did pretty well in the math section -- but horrible in the verbal, which I recall to have been pretty much useless in my everyday life.

It was full of archaic words that nobody really uses or even cares about. And this was supposed to give an idea of how an intelligent a person is??

Bottom line: It's one freakin' test. So kids don't do all that well on a test. And this is supposed to be important?

 

P.S. My SAT was taken at 8:00 on a Saturday morning. I'm assuming they still take it around that time. I'm also assuming kids haven't changed much when I was their age. I assure you, most 17-year-olds aren't exactly awake yet at 8:00 on a freakin' Saturday morning -- let alone being in the absolute best mental condition to take this "all-important" test.

Wed, 09/14/2011 - 18:14 | 1670655 jdelano
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Fatuous.

Wed, 09/14/2011 - 18:25 | 1670705 Arkadaba
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Try doing the GRE on a Saturday morning when you are a little bit older and a bit hungover :)

Wed, 09/14/2011 - 21:06 | 1671354 Trimmed Hedge
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17-year-olds never party on a Friday night??

Wed, 09/14/2011 - 22:57 | 1671684 Arkadaba
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I did great on the verbal and the logic but screwed up on the Math - but at least I knew I was screwing up.

Wed, 09/14/2011 - 18:40 | 1670775 Dr. Engali
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Your commentary is a shining example of Tyler's point.

Thu, 09/15/2011 - 01:05 | 1672012 MsCreant
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I have had students show to exams stinking, staggering, "I can smell it on your breath," drunk. I had a young lady falling on me at the front of the class. I (wrongly) did what I could to help her cover for herself (I worried about her future). I had a young man who was brilliant when he wasn't drunk, and smelling up the front row with booziness most mornings and silent, when he was. Beautiful mind that kid, he wrote great papers and was a solid musician.  I had an older male vet (at least he was older than me) who sat at the back of the class and came to class drunk every day and still made As. I had to let it go. He got cantankerous from time to time, but he made genuinely good contributions to class discussions.

It is not discussed here, but there is a culture of students that "do" college as an experience (kind of like Disney land or something) rather than as preparation for their future. Wealthy parents feel obligated to "buy" this experience for their kids and do not pressure them to get good grades and think that getting drunk and partying is normal and how it is supposed to be. A C average seems to be fine by these parents. Studies show that students in the middle, the one's who have parents that pay for some things, but not all, have a better completion/success rate than those who have it all done for them (i.e. all the money they want) and those who do not have enough support (and may need to drop out or slow down their progress because they need to work [the five+ year BA]). There is a sweet spot to these things.

It is so complicated. There is a narrative running about "how it is" and reality is another beast. Some students have parents that cling to them and get in their way. Saw many bright girls drop out because their lazy assed mother made her take care of her. I could go on. I have been in this trade long enough that I have seen some of these women come back after 10 years to finish. They need it for their self esteem, they know it won't get them a job.

It is so much more fucked up than you know. All our jobs are.

Wed, 09/14/2011 - 18:10 | 1670634 Tracerfan
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If you overlay a chart of government education spending, it will probably be inverse to this chart.

Correlation if not outright causation.

We're spending a lot to create an illiterate electorate.

Wed, 09/14/2011 - 18:12 | 1670640 UBIGDummy
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Good thing I got my edumucation certificate in 96, IM smart huh!

Wed, 09/14/2011 - 18:13 | 1670642 alien-IQ
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if that chart were adjusted for how dumbed down the tests are today...it would be in the single digits.

here's an interesting example. take a look at this Harvard entrance exam from 1899:

http://www.ivygateblog.com/2011/04/you-would-never-have-gotten-into-harv...

I looked through this. I'm not a complete moron but when i looked at that test...the only thing I was able to answer with certainty was my name...and after a few minutes...i became unsure of even that.

Here's a sample question:

[in Logarithms and Trigonometry] 9. Find by logarithms, using arithmetical complements, the value of the following:

[(0.02183)2 x (7)2/5]/[?(0.0046) x 23.309]

(and remember...1899. No calculators)

And apparently...the Columbia University exam was even tougher:
http://spectrum.columbiaspectator.com/opinion/in-the-late-1800s-columbia...

Now a days, I doubt 1 in 50 tenured professors could pass either one of these tests...But in 1899...this is what it took to get in as a student.

How things have changed indeed.

Wed, 09/14/2011 - 23:31 | 1671770 IQ 145
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The question mark inside the bracket bothers me; I'm not familiar with expressions that have question marks inside the brackets. Other than that; the main problem is that they don't specify how many significant digits they want.

Wed, 09/14/2011 - 18:13 | 1670644 drivenZ
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I assume the question "what's a synonym for OMG LOL GR8?" wasnt on the test.

 

I blame texting. Oh and also, who has time to read when you have to help mom and dad make mortgage payments? 

Wed, 09/14/2011 - 18:41 | 1670766 Arkadaba
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Blaming texting is silly. Language evolves with new technology.

Edit: Bitchez!

Wed, 09/14/2011 - 18:39 | 1670770 New_Meat
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"Oh and also, who has time to read..."

Evidently no one has time to read:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACbwND52rrw

Fish Rots From The Head.

- Ned

Wed, 09/14/2011 - 18:14 | 1670648 rgd
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Its the weather fault

It is also Bush's fault.

I think the chart was attacked by Algos.

This is more proof we should pass the jobs bill now!

Wed, 09/14/2011 - 23:36 | 1671794 IQ 145
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Hear! Hear! Pass the Jobs Bill ! Why, ? The sooner we get it over with the better. I've been reading the decline and fall of the British Empire for the last week; it's very interesting; no one ever admits that its game over. they have to be beat over the head with it.

Wed, 09/14/2011 - 18:17 | 1670649 HD
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Whatever. I mean, me no think this be right yo.  Chartz be dum. I'm from the America and I knoz all kinda stuff about junk.

I'd like to see some old fancy college teaching dude, text a twitter, update his facebook while driving and eating a cheeseburger all at once. I'm doing it right now, I got mad skillz ya all.

Americaz in #won bitches!

 

Wed, 09/14/2011 - 18:16 | 1670652 HD
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 DP

 

Wed, 09/14/2011 - 18:15 | 1670653 Arkadaba
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It is sad. Was talking to a college student in Illinois recently and he asked where I was located. I said Toronto and his response - "I don't know where that is". It blew me away but guess I shouldn't have been surprised ... but sometimes I still am.

Wed, 09/14/2011 - 19:26 | 1670977 The Fonz...befo...
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You really wanna see the students head explode tell him it's in Ontario....

Wed, 09/14/2011 - 20:02 | 1671123 Blano
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Don't worry, they'll know it's one of the 57 states.

Wed, 09/14/2011 - 23:38 | 1671799 IQ 145
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Right. "Toronto Indianna ?" forty percent of the little darlings can't point to where the sun goes at night.

Wed, 09/14/2011 - 18:15 | 1670657 snowball777
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This needs its own ETF: STPD

Wed, 09/14/2011 - 18:17 | 1670660 Miles Kendig
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Television, The Drug of a Nation - The Disposable Heroes of Hiphoprisy

http://youtu.be/ebWk9pBXSso

Wed, 09/14/2011 - 20:36 | 1671241 blunderdog
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Flavor Flav is not the guy to bring up during a discussion about literacy. 

(Chuck D was OK.)

Wed, 09/14/2011 - 22:18 | 1671569 tip e. canoe
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too-fuckin-shay

Wed, 09/14/2011 - 23:40 | 1671806 IQ 145
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That's it ! That's it ! That is the problem; Television. If I weren't so drunk I could explain this; but trust me I think I understood it all once. I wonder if you can collect Federal Disability for Angst caused by a long series of irrational Federal Decisions? Hmm. Have to look into that.

Wed, 09/14/2011 - 18:17 | 1670666 Rastamann
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and............you can SEE just where every RIGHTWING/FASCIST/REPUBLICAN whitehouse took office.

 

amazing.

 

 

every FASCIST regime delights and demands a dumbed down electorate in order to keep the people reactionary and susceptible to their propaganda.

 

America HAS PROVEN that stoooopid people, en masse, are dangerous.

Wed, 09/14/2011 - 18:18 | 1670672 vegas
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As long as I have been on here, I've been saying exactly this.
Only a group of retarded morons would elect Barry Soetero dog catcher.
The fact is, as the SAT scores so accurately portray, your average Amerikan is more interested in where Casey Anthony is hiding and when she will "tell all".
These are the same people who acquitted O.J.

Read? Who needs to read? All I need is some of that Obama stash of cash. He gonna pay my rent, make my car payment, and even gonna pay for my gas.

Ain't goberment great?

Wed, 09/14/2011 - 18:20 | 1670676 MalthusWasRight
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I'm not going to dispute the assertion that the intelligence level of the populace is frightening; however, this chart is more of a reflection of the "everyone should go to college" mentality that has resulted in greater numbers of intellectually unprepared students taking the test (and eventually taking out large, non-dischargeable loans to pay for a degree of dubious value) than it neccessarily is an implication that American students are becoming dumber as a whole.

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